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Rosemary (grooving with the Picts) (nosemanny) | 8590 comments Lost my credit card this evening. What a pain. Been on the phone to Barclaycard for hours to cancel it - if it had been my debit card I could have just pressed a button on the app to stop it (with the option to reactivate it tomorrow morning when I more than likely find the bloomin thing)


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Stuart Ayris (stuayris) | 2614 comments Oh dear! Hope you sorted it!

Could be worse though. Have you ever tried to cancel Sky Sports?

The website says it can only be done by phone and when you ring them up they say that due to Covid they do not have sufficent staff to attend to the query. George Orwell I (once again) salute you sir!


Desley (Cat fosterer) (booktigger) | 12595 comments Woke up at 6 thinking about work, fortunately after an hour of watching TV and having had a cup of tea and a cereal bar, I got another couple of hours sleep. Currently windy, but supposed to rain, hopefully I will get round to the shop before that happens, then its just housework and I'm determined to finish my book, only half an hour left in it.

Sorry you had such a hassle with your card R. Glad to see you around more Stuart


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Lynne (Tigger's Mum) | 4643 comments We’ve had a performance trying to get a new tyre. Car failed it’s Mot as the tyre had a fault, it wasn’t worn and wasn’t visible until they lifted the car up then the fault showed as a dangerous bulge.
They tried everywhere to get a replacement but none available. There’s virtually no imports from the USA car parts wise either. He’s been waiting for some Jeep bits since last lockdown. There’s a shortage of freight space as there aren’t so many flights. The knock on effect of covid is widespread and not always apparent.
He’s managed to get tyres. He’s had to have two matching as there’s no singles to match the rest and they appears to be the only two of the size available nationwide. None on Goodyear site at all.


Rosemary (grooving with the Picts) (nosemanny) | 8590 comments I've been out for my constitutional and my ears are alight. What a cold wind. Neighbours keep leaving the downstairs door open for their workmen and it really chills the whole house down having a howling gale blowing up the stairs. So I keep closing it. I'll get them trained up properly yet.


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Alicia Ehrhardt (aliciabutcherehrhardt) | 4836 comments Lynne (Tigger's Mum) wrote: "We’ve had a performance trying to get a new tyre. Car failed it’s Mot as the tyre had a fault, it wasn’t worn and wasn’t visible until they lifted the car up then the fault showed as a dangerous bu..."

Stories for the grandchildren. WWII had rationing - we'll have... tyres.

Write them down, save for the future, hope that future is soon.


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Jim | 21809 comments I do wonder if the stories of the current medical unpleasantness are going to be a bit like coronation mugs.
Everybody has one and actually they're worth nothing, but in two generations there are only a few left and people collect them :-)


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Desley (Cat fosterer) (booktigger) | 12595 comments Well, felt a bit more like myself this morning, till I got in the office to find we have started decorating the office, I’m refusing to put my decorations up though! I ended up having a chat with our MD when I went to wash my cups before leaving, he was asking how I was coping (I don't know if he knows about my mum), so I was just giving him short answers, but don't think he liked that as I got asked a couple of times, nice of him to care, but again, made me want to cry!


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Alicia Ehrhardt (aliciabutcherehrhardt) | 4836 comments Hugs, Desley. This is not a time for casual inquiries about your state of being by random people making small talk.

Have you told personnel, if that's appropriate? Otherwise you may face more of this.

And it's too early for decorations!


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Lynne (Tigger's Mum) | 4643 comments Today’s big adventure is a Tesco delivery. Last week the man delivering asked me how long we’d lived in our house, He said he used to live next door. He’d have been 12 when they left so no wonder I didn’t recognise him. (He didn’t have a beard then 😀)
Before the virus he and his wife had a wedding photography business. It’s a real domino effect of business closures spreading rapidly and I can’t see an end to it either.


Desley (Cat fosterer) (booktigger) | 12595 comments Started my day with an 8am health and safety meeting, not sure why everyone likes 8am meetings this month, it’s the third one I’ve had! Can’t believe it will be Dec next week, really not sure how that has happened!

Well, in one way it was nice that the ‘big boss’ cared enough to not only ask the question, but to ask again when he didn’t think he got the right answer Alicia – I did discover this morning that our directors did a mental health first aid course last week, and one of the things they learnt was about asking the question and listening to the answer! I have another colleague who I told about my mum, didn’t tell him about the funeral, but since last Thu has been answering my teams call by pulling a face to make me smile!


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Jim | 21809 comments Lynne (Tigger's Mum) wrote: "Before the virus he and his wife had a wedding photography business. It’s a real domino effect of business closures spreading rapidly and I can’t see an end to it either.

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There's a lot of knock on.
After it's all over will he go back to trying to start up his business?
But also will people go back to shopping which means a lot of these delivery staff are going to find themselves out of a job
But if we don't go back to shopping in the real world a lot of other people will be out of a job :-(


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Jim | 21809 comments Desley (Cat fosterer) wrote: "Well, in one way it was nice that the ‘big boss’ cared enough to not only ask the question, but to ask again when he didn’t think he got the right answer Alicia – I did discover this morning that our directors did a mental health first aid course last week, and one of the things they learnt was about asking the question and listening to the answer! I have another colleague who I told about my mum, didn’t tell him about the funeral, but since last Thu has been answering my teams call by pulling a face to make me smile!..."

It is difficult because not only might he want to know how you are because he's basically a decent person who wants to do the right thing, but I suspect the company may feel they have a 'duty of care' to look after you and make sure you're not working when really you could just do with some time alone.
But obviously he won't want to make it worse and he may not naturally be a people person


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Alicia Ehrhardt (aliciabutcherehrhardt) | 4836 comments Desley (Cat fosterer) wrote: "our directors did a mental health first aid course last week, and one of the things they learnt was about asking the question and listening to the answer!..."

Anything that makes people realize they share a world with other people with lives that matter should ultimately be good.

I hope they were told they shouldn't do it if they can't really mean it - real sympathy may be awkward, but it is at least well meaning. Doing the right thing is often awkward. Good for them for trying.


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Lynne (Tigger's Mum) | 4643 comments I think people will go back to shopping. I’ve noticed prices creeping up and up and ‘shrinkflation’ with using one shop. I do miss Lidl’s prices, half of some Tesco products. You have to really pay close attention to sizes. I ordered a. Worcestershire sauce and it was the small one that came. As it was the only size on the app and I didn’t check I thought it was the big one. Same with washing up liquid. I’ve also noticed no very big shampoo, washing liquid., multi packs and offers etc. People won’t stay loyal if they think they are being taken advantage of indefinitely. But if you save a £1 but catch the virus is it worth it?
For the photography business theres got to be a return to wedding spending as before. Who knows? They’d got to be very expensive and lavish perhaps people will go back to simpler celebrations as there’s bound to be less money about.


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Jim | 21809 comments I've taken on the shopping because I can fit it into my day, there's a gap between feeding heifers and then filling the cake bins when I can nip, get the paper, and go to Tesco if needed. All before 8am

But lady wife asks about this or that coming on offer, and there just aren't the offers about that there were.
Also there are more discounts for using your clubcard


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Anna Faversham (annafaversham) | 1752 comments '...filling the cake bins...' Oh I do like the sound of extra large cake tins ;o)

So far, I haven't put on any weight during these lockdowns, but there's still time.

Yesterday my Mr proudly presented me with the fruits of his ultra rare shopping top up: lamb shanks, garlic and onions and bottles of wine, a Christmas present for a relative. "Milk?" I asked, "Bread?"

Milk is the only thing we run out of because we have a huge freezer and a very large fridge. I've heard it's a man thing. Jim, you are surely an exception :oI

Decidedly fewer bargains at our local Tesco but good bargains if you have a clubcard. If only I could be as good at marketing as some of these big companies.


Desley (Cat fosterer) (booktigger) | 12595 comments No, he isn’t a people person Jim, so it’s kind of better that he did make the effort. I suppose at least he bought something Anna!


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Anna Faversham (annafaversham) | 1752 comments I have to come crawling back. He had to go to the Post Office today and on his way back he bought milk and a French loaf! Hurrah!


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Lynne (Tigger's Mum) | 4643 comments Oooh bummer - I’ve just had to phone Tesco. I had a G&T at lunchtime and OH said make the most of it as the bottle is nearly empty. I crowed and said I had one in the order yesterday. But I didn’t. I thought he’d put it away and because there’s yellow line through it he thought it was struck off for some reason. It wasnt and I’ve been charged for it. I know he likes to help put stuff away but I’d rather do it myself as I do check things off. I’m totally honest and it’s the first time I’ve had to query anything. I didn’t enjoy that.


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Jim | 21809 comments Just check your slots. A friend of mine has things set up so her mum has a regular delivery from ASDA. She has a slot, same time every month (or whenever)
ASDA has just emailed to say that nobody has prebooked slots, you have to take your chance with everybody else. The lady in question is over eighty, daughter is not happy


Desley (Cat fosterer) (booktigger) | 12595 comments Oh dear Lynne, hope its only a bottle of gin you are missing! Neighbour had a similar issue, she thought she was amending this weeks order and only ended up with 6 items!


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Lynne (Tigger's Mum) | 4643 comments They’ve given me credit. You do have to be careful though Desley. It’s easy to make a mistake and miss one of the ‘confirm order ‘ pages and it doesn’t add the changes or additions on. I’ve put my gin on the order for next week!

Jim for the Tesco prebooked deliveries you have to actually put some items in the basket and register your payment but they don’t take the payment till they deliver, then you have until the evening before to add and remove items. I’ve got one booked every week until 20th December. I do pay a monthly subscription though of £7.99 but don’t pay anything for the delivery. I’m happy with that.


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Jim | 21809 comments Looks like Tesco at least are honouring their system


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Anna Faversham (annafaversham) | 1752 comments I wouldn't say that Tesco's food competes with Waitrose or M & S for quality most of the time but I am finding their delivery systems excellent. Click and collect works well for me.


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Lynne (Tigger's Mum) | 4643 comments I don’t think there’s a Waitrose in the county here. Sainsbury’s is 30+ miles away, the M&S, Morrison’s and Aldi are in the next town, and the parking for M&S is difficult. So it’s Tesco or Lidl’s for me but the delivery comes from a larger Tesco than our local so the choice is better. I buy meat direct from the farm except for chicken, fish is straight from the docks so we are quite well served for fresh food though. Food shopping has changed so much over the last 50:years.
Haircut for me today and long long awaited (1 year) ENT appointment for daughter. They aren’t happy with her insisting on her Dad accompanying her. She’s not seeing well, deaf in one ear and is still having severe balance problems and isn’t going to be fobbed off this time. She was told to ring when they get into the car park t o see if there’s ‘room’ for him to accompany her. All I can say is there had better be ‘room’ for him.


Desley (Cat fosterer) (booktigger) | 12595 comments My mum’s ashes were delivered yesterday afternoon, we now have to figure out what to do with them, as she didn’t specify in her will. Urgh, it appears we are staying in Tier 3 after lockdown next week, hopefully when they review it on 16th, we might finally get in a lower band. I’m pleased in a way as we have come down so much in the past month it would be nice to get them down further, and give us a better chance, but getting fed up of it now. Hopefully I can still go to the hairdresser.

Hope you enjoy your haircut Lynne. Fingers crossed for daughter’s app. A friend’s husband has severe cognitive issues after a stroke, and she wasn’t allowed in A & E with him, despite leaving her number, they discharged him without telling her, told her he had left the hospital, she had to get the police involved who found him in the waiting room!


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Kath Middleton | 23860 comments Afternoon, each. I seem to have been away for ages. I got heavily involved in producing an anthology for a Facebook group for which I'm an admin. Two of use did the editing. Twenty-two crime stories. That's a lot of reading! Especially when you read the woke thing through several times.

Not much to report otherwise. Everything seems to be on hold. Hope you're all keeping well.


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Jim | 21809 comments Desley (Cat fosterer) wrote: "My mum’s ashes were delivered yesterday afternoon, we now have to figure out what to do with them, as she didn’t specify in her will. Urgh, it appears we are staying in Tier 3 after lockdown next w..."

As a churchwarden I can 'help' with the ashes. If you've got family buried in a church graveyard, even if the grave is 'full' you can still normally inter ashes in it.


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Lynne (Tigger's Mum) | 4643 comments Thanks Desley, I made a fool of myself at the hairdressers. I arrived on time put my mask on and went in. I thought I got an odd look from the two hairdressers but when the boss went to the door an opened it and said loudly to the two ladies sitting outside they could come in now I realised they weren't just sitting chatting in the sun. ooops . I walked in like royalty. They had a laugh anyway as I genuinely didn’t see or read the sign. I did feel a twerp as I’m gobby but not pushy.
Desley. I hope you get a solution for your mums ashes sorted. Nothing is easily done on lockdown though is it. My parents ashes are both placed together at a memorial garden at the same crematorium in Nottingham but my dad was cremated near us in Wales. Not scattered just placed in the casket they came from the crem. and we had another little service when we took them up there conducted by one of husbands relatives who was a minister.
Daughter had very good appointment although Dad wasn’t allowed in the room for some of it due to numbers which was understandable but the consultant saw them afterwards together as husband said she wouldn’t remember what she was told.
She’s got something positive help from the meeting and further appointments at last.
Suns shining here at last after yesterday’s thick fog. It’s showing up my failed double glazing. It looks awful but the firm is shut down, the local man who was such a good carpenter has finally thrown in the towel as he’s 80 and has called it a day and his supplier has shut his workshop.
Dog is adding to the mess with his ‘nose art’. When he barks he spits. Lovely creatures aren’t they 😀


Desley (Cat fosterer) (booktigger) | 12595 comments Still feeling fed up with the restrictions, I’m even missing things like the cinema and pub which I rarely do, just because we’ve not been able to since March (well, we had a brief period of being able to go to the pub, but only in our bubble). 2 meetings today, and been asked to help our Admin Dept, but barely keeping on top of my own job at the moment, as it has massively increased since I came back, never mind now trying to finish the task I started in March!

Thanks Jim, there is nowhere to bury her, we scattered our nan and granddad’s ashes at the local cemetery, me and my brother would be happy to scatter them there, but my sister didn’t like that idea. Nice to see you again Kath. Glad you got a haircut Lynne, am slightly jealous! Glad daughter’s app went well and your hubby was allowed to be there for the ‘results’.


Desley (Cat fosterer) (booktigger) | 12595 comments Oh dear, went to B & M and Aldi last night, spent quite a bit of money, but not much proper food! Had planned to go for a walk today as it was supposed to be dry all day, but it is currently raining and supposed to still 7pm, so not sure if my friend will still want to go. Kind of hoping we do, as the cleaner came yesterday so I have very little housework to do


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Kath Middleton | 23860 comments Morning!
Trying to get back into writing again. It's hard to concentrate in the current circumstances. However, determined to look forward, I've just bought a diary for 2021. Let's hope there's something worth writing in it!


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Jim | 21809 comments Kath wrote: "Morning!
Trying to get back into writing again. It's hard to concentrate in the current circumstances. However, determined to look forward, I've just bought a diary for 2021. Let's hope there's som..."


Yes I collected my 2021 calendar from the machinery dealer

I immediately noticed that it's a smaller calendar with less space per page, so you cannot write as much in.
Does somebody know something :-(


Desley (Cat fosterer) (booktigger) | 12595 comments We ended up going for a walk despite the rain, picked the wrong place though, between the bitter wind and rain, my friend looked rather red in the face, my hood wouldn't stay up so my hair was a mess! I felt better for getting out and having a conversation though. Just Sunday chores today.

I got bought a planner for my birthday, so far it's had one address put in it! Am looking forward to putting my book challenge in in. Hope you can get back into writing Kath, not surprised you are finding it hard to concentrate.


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Lynne (Tigger's Mum) | 4643 comments Hopefully we shall meet the family at Halfords this morning. If we can try bike sizes for a small boy without him guessing too much it will be a miracle but we can always hope. He quite astute (when he wants to be). I just hope they don’t keep us hanging about as its cold today and patience isn’t one of OH’s assets.


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Kath Middleton | 23860 comments Mornin- oh, Afternoon!
Grey and dismal here, but it's nearly December so what do I expect?
Surveying the grounds to decide on what greenery we'll cut to decorate the church. As usual, I'll be doing an arch. Usually at Christmas it's the inside arch, but this year, we felt people would feel cheered if I did the big one outside. In case of bad weather, I think I'll need to bind the foliage on, instead of just sticking it in the oasis. I have the black florists' wire, but one of the gang has some gold, so if it shows, it's part of the decoration.


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M.T. McGuire (mtmcguire) | 8049 comments It's not really bothered to get light today. Knee is smarting horribly. Got it moving really well yesterday, paying the price today. Start again tomorrow.


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Jim | 21809 comments Kath wrote: "Mornin- oh, Afternoon!
Grey and dismal here, but it's nearly December so what do I expect?
Surveying the grounds to decide on what greenery we'll cut to decorate the church. As usual, I'll be doin..."


Yes we're looking at doing outside stuff as well


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Alicia Ehrhardt (aliciabutcherehrhardt) | 4836 comments Desley (Cat fosterer) wrote: "Still feeling fed up with the restrictions, I’m even missing things like the cinema and pub which I rarely do, just because we’ve not been able to since March (well, we had a brief period of being ..."

There isn't any rush. You can decide when the right solution for you and your family comes to you.

My parents are together in what they call a columbarium, a room with small niches in the basement of a beautiful church in Mexico City. We have made not plans ourselves. My grandparents are in a niche under the old and beautiful Basilica de Guadalupe in Mexico City, in the crypt. There is no 'perfect' way for ashes.

My sympathies.


Desley (Cat fosterer) (booktigger) | 12595 comments Well, it doesn’t feel like we have proper daylight today, didn’t get it yesterday either, which certainly isn’t helping with my mood! Neighbour’s lodger is moving out today, dread to think what mood she’ll be in tonight. I need to get the Christmas cards bought and sent to Jersey this week, seeing as the last card took 10 days to get there.


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Lynne (Tigger's Mum) | 4643 comments I’ve just seen a beautiful enormous French cathedral complaining they may only have 30 worshippers at a service. It was huge - but rules is rules. No comment
No boy sized bikes either in our Halfords and not a lot of hope that they would have them on line either but we’ve got one coming on Wednesday from Decathlon. Panthers are going to deliver it. That I want to see.
All ok here in the rain. New welsh rules are a touch draconian. No alcohol in restaurants and they have to close at 18.00 and no alcohol in bars either. I think that might be rather a devious way of making establishments shut their doors themselves and therefore not qualify for the government assistance which would have been available if the Senedd had shut them down. You can stay open but not sell alcohol in a pub ? Hmmmm
It won’t affect me in that I’m not going to restaurants or bars but I see the knock on effects will affect everyone eventually. Suppliers of food and drinks will have lost a huge market and if they haven’t other customers they will be in trouble too.


Desley (Cat fosterer) (booktigger) | 12595 comments Well, we have sunshine today, but very cold, glad I didn’t have to go to work this morning, as I’d have been scraping the car! Still waiting for an update on my telephone friend from Age UK. Rang the garage to book the car in, they normally get me in fairly quickly, this year the only slot is the 9th, which is the day it runs out! Luckily I’ll be dropping it off the night before, and can work from home, as I normally book it for a Sat.

I was quite shocked with the Wales restrictions Lynne, 6pm is a lot harsher than our curfew!


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Lynne (Tigger's Mum) | 4643 comments Loads of places will close voluntarily. They really can’t run hospitality businesses on those terms. There will be huge loss all way round. I’ve just been looking at Sage recommendations for Christmas. They are detached from ordinary people’s ideas and reality of living too. The comments on Twitter are really cutting.


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Jim | 21809 comments Lynne (Tigger's Mum) wrote: "Loads of places will close voluntarily. They really can’t run hospitality businesses on those terms. There will be huge loss all way round. I’ve just been looking at Sage recommendations for Christ..."

In this area very few people have jobs which allow them to work from home. The estimate has been that something like 85% of the workforce have to go to work.
So this 'lockdown' has been nothing like the first one. Indeed I get the feeling a lot of people have looked at the data and, know people who have had it (a lot round here) and have decided that if you're under 70 and in reasonable health it's no big deal

But with that I know a lot of people who're making sure their elderly relatives are looked after and kept safe, even though the younger generations aren't worried about their own health


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Alicia Ehrhardt (aliciabutcherehrhardt) | 4836 comments The younger generations are dying, too, and a substantial fraction (est. 10%) of those who survive the disease have long-haul aftereffects that no one knows how long they will last. And people are carrying the virus home to those who don't get out.

A friend on GR who is older just told me he has it - got it from going to his grandchild's birthday party, where the children are going to school. He doesn't know yet if his wife also has it - they are quarantining at home separate from each other for two weeks.

Hospital beds in California are getting full - and the post-Thanksgiving-travel surge hasn't even started.


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Lynne (Tigger's Mum) | 4643 comments Grandsons school has it. I’m sure a lot of students partying now will take it back home in the Christmas holidays. We may well be all having separate Christmas’s.
My local news is filling up with establishments going into ‘hibernation’ as one rural pub put it. In France I was really shocked to see the Carlton in Cannes - a really top hotel - announce after its closure it won’t be reopening until 2023! The Isle of Man TT cancelled for next June. People are really looking long term.


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Jim | 21809 comments Alicia wrote: "The younger generations are dying, too, and a substantial fraction (est. 10%) of those who survive the disease have long-haul aftereffects that no one knows how long they will last. And people are ..."

It does look as if different populations are suffering differently, the last time I saw the figures for the UK there were three people under the age of 60 who died who didn't have severe underlying conditions.
And long covid is still statistically very rare, a lot of people seem to have post viral fatigue which might last a month.

It might be that different countries have different proportion of underlying conditions. It's notable that the UK and US are getting more deaths but have high obesity rates


Desley (Cat fosterer) (booktigger) | 12595 comments Woke up at 4.30 and didn’t properly get back to sleep, so at least working from home meant I didn’t have to wash my hair, I’ll do it after work instead. It’s now forecasting sleet for the rest of the week. Have at least managed to get a hair app for 19th December – I was willing to use some annual leave to get in this month – I do have 11 days to take before the end of March!!

I just hope that some of the ones who will close voluntarily will be able to open once things are more normal. Wow, not re-opening till 2023 seems extreme, unless they are doing some refurbishment in that time. I’m actually impressed that the numbers have come down as well as they have, as this lockdown hasn’t felt anything like the last, so many places open this time that weren’t the first time.


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Lynne (Tigger's Mum) | 4643 comments Well the panthers have been and delivered the boy’s bike I’m really disappointed it was described as white glove service and they were neither panthers nor wearing white gloves 😁
Neighbour in France sent me a photo this morning. The hill behind the village is lightly covered in snow and our new roof looks lovely.
My hair is so short it will last till gone Christmas but I’ve got toothache which could be a problem. Hope not. It’s getting clove oil and paracetamol and hoping for the best.


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