Rules and Sign-Ups

[Marla]

but Fiona the feline would count, right? cuz she ate goldie in chapter 3 and she is actually around for the entire book

[Kelly]

Marla wrote: "but Fiona the feline would count, right? cuz she ate goldie in chapter 3 and she is actually around for the entire book"

Only if she says Meow a few times while happily digesting Goldie.

[❀Tea❀]

What?! Poor Goldie!
*closing the book since Marla spoiled it ☺*


Mods where can we check about book length approval? You know, those with only e-editions? :P

[VNerdbooks]

I can't believe you didn't put that into a spoiler Marla, you've ruined the ending for me now lol.

[Marla]

Sorry, at least I didn't tell you what Fido did...

[Ezi]

Question: Do Narrators count when trying to spell out?
For instance does Robert Petkoff count for by Kresley Cole

[Corey]

Does the bonus for the genre read have to be a separate book, or can it be counted in the spell it out? For example, reading Rebecca as R for Romance (receiving 10 points) and getting an additional 20 points since it is in the genre? Therefore we would receive 30 points from the one book.

[[deleted user]]

How do we verify the length of a children's book using the amount of words?

[VNerdbooks]

Marla wrote: "Sorry, at least I didn't tell you what Fido did..."

Haha i just snorted tea out of my nose !!!

[Jaclyn]

Corey wrote: "Does the bonus for the genre read have to be a separate book, or can it be counted in the spell it out? For example, reading Rebecca as R for Romance (receiving 10 points) and getti..."

I beat you to this question! They said the bonus book doesn't have to be seperate. So Rebecca would count for the bonus genre and the letter R. :)

[Corey]

Thanks Jaclyn!

[Karen ⊰✿, Fiction Aficionado]

lol Marla and Kelly!

Ezi - we haven't included narrators for the spell-it-out. Maybe if we do this challenge again we'll consider it

Thanks Jaclyn!

Pigletto - there is a thread your captain can use in the captains group to check on genres/page numbers. You can also use these sites:

Acceptable Resources:
Ingram
WorldCat.org
More on GRs List

If you find an eBook publisher who gives you word count, we will use that; and for the purposes of this challenge we will divide the wordcount by 250 per page.

We are using this from techtips.salon.com "This gives a rough rule of thumb of one page in print equating to 2KB."

Also, this:

Maybe this blogsite will help you a bit: The Daring Novelist.

Remember, our cut off is greater than or equal to 160 pages.

Science Fiction Writers of America
Short fiction: under 7,500 words
Novelette: 7,500-17,500 words
Novella: 17,500-40,000 words
Novel: 40,000 words and up

Short Mystery Fiction Society
Flash story: up to 1000 words
Short short story: 1001 - 4000 words
Long short story: 4001-8000 words
Novelette: 8001-17,500 words

[Moderators of NBRC, Challenger-in-Chief]

*Rules Update*
When I created the goal for this challenge (1000 points) it was based on a bit of a guess from number of players to make a 6-8 week challenge. We've had A LOT more people sign up for this than our last challenges which has made each team have an annual book rate of c.1000. That means each team should, on average, be able to read 19 books a week (225 points) and most will probably do more as it is a read-a-thon!
So to that end I'm going to change the goal to 2000 points which should see us have a 7/8 week challenge.

[Greta]

Is it just the first letter from the first word of the title? Or can we use the first letter from all the words if the title? For example, for The Red Queen, could that count for Q if I needed it to?

[Renee]

No Greta. You could use the T from the our the R from Red but not the q. You can use the first letter of the title or if the first word is the, a, an you can use the second word. Awesome job at full in Captain while your Captain is mia!

[Jaclyn]

I thought we couldn't use "the"?

[Kelly]

Jaclyn wrote: "I thought we couldn't use "the"?"

I think we're allowed to ignore it but don't have to.

[Michelle]

With 2 authors, we can use either, right? Ex: The Mountain: My Time on Everest is Ed Viesturs with David Roberts. Can I use the D for David?

[Sheila]

Kelly wrote: "Jaclyn wrote: "I thought we couldn't use "the"?"

I think we're allowed to ignore it but don't have to."

Karen, I would like clarification on this as well. If I read The Retribution could I use T if I want? Or would it be the R?

[Foxy Grandma]

Just saw this, sounds like a fun challenge. Hopefully you will do it again next year so I can join.

[Corey]

Beth, you can sign up here as an alternative if you like. There is a possibility that another may need to step down from the competition.

[Kelly]

Sheila wrote: "Kelly wrote: "Jaclyn wrote: "I thought we couldn't use "the"?"

I think we're allowed to ignore it but don't have to."

Karen, I would like clarification on this as well. If I read [book:The Retri..."

From the rules in the first post:

As always, if the first letter of a title starts with an indefinite or definite article ('A', 'An', 'The', etc.), you may use the first letter of the second word in the title to spell out your chosen word.

I'm assuming that may means optional.

[Karen ⊰✿, Fiction Aficionado]

Thanks Kelly - yes you are correct. You can use the "The" if you like, but you can also ignore it

[Karen ⊰✿, Fiction Aficionado]

Michelle wrote: "With 2 authors, we can use either, right? Ex: The Mountain: My Time on Everest is Ed Viesturs with David Roberts. Can I use the D for David?"

Yes

[Mary X]

Sorry if this was asked already but I don't see it if it was:

How many times can we reread a word and get points? Just once or can we do it a 3rd time? (we got a shorter word this week)

[Corey]

As many times as you like, but you have to complete the word again before you can add the points to the third reread, and again finish the third before you can add the points for the fourth reread.

[Kelly]

I have a question about collections of stories.

Someone had mentioned that we're allowed to use either of the authors on a story. Does it follow then that we can use any of the titles (first character or second following a the/a/etc) or any of the authors on books of short stories?

I assume it would still only count as one letter since it is one book.

[Karen ⊰✿, Fiction Aficionado]

Correct - thanks Corey!

Kelly - with short stories you can use the author who is claimed as the "editor", (where there is an actual novel with two authors like Confessions of a Murder Suspect then either author can count.). This is because short stories generally wouldn't be more than 160 pages each even though the collection is greater, and so the book as a whole meets the page count, there may be 6 or more authors!. Therefore within a short story collection I think you would need to check if there is a story within the collection that meets the page count before using a character name for a spell it out.

[ilovebakedgoods (Teresa)]

Not sure if this is already answered but when do we get new words? Is it going to be after we submit our first genre or is it going to be a set day or time each week?

Thanks, just curious!

[Karen ⊰✿, Fiction Aficionado]

:)
After the submissions are in on Sunday (my time)/ Sat night in the US

[NBRC Book Ninja]

You have until:

Sunday 11am Australia EST which is:

Saturday 9pm (New York ) USA East Coast
Saturday 6pm (San Francisco) USA West Coast
Sunday 2am London (UK/Europe)

Countdown until the end of week one is here

Books completed between July 12 and the deadline can count towards week one

After the deadline the new wheels for week 2 will be posted! :D

[Jaclyn]

Question: if that is the deadline to read week 1 books, what is the deadline to post the results? An hour later?

[Jaclyn]

Or I suppose everything needs to be read AND posted by then, right? So perhaps we should give our teams a reading time deadline to make sure we have last minute books verified and accounted for correctly?

[~Leslie~]

I'm not sure if this has been asked. my husband and I are discussing it while we drive to NO. if someone has read a book during the week but its not counted in the first round of reading our word, and we finish our word - can we then count that book towards our re-read points as long as it is one of our letters.

[Turtlecollector Dennis]

Yes you can Leslie.

[VNerdbooks]

Thanks TC that helps i think.
I didn't know that, so say for example I read an A but our word this week is HORROR and next week is YOUNG ADULT I can still use that A for that? Is that right, I'm still confused!

[Michelle]

I don't think so. I think the book can only count in the week it is finished. If it is finished this week, you have to use it on this week's word or you lose it.

You can reread the word more than once, though, so it could apply as a title, author, or character some place in the read week.

[VNerdbooks]

Ah ok, that makes more sense, thanks Michelle.

[Karen ⊰✿, Fiction Aficionado]

Thanks Michelle, that's right

[~Leslie~]

Thanks, TC! I was typing that on my phone and wasn't sure I asked it in a way that made sense.

[Greta]

Maybe this was asked, but it seems from what you wrote you are accepting books finished on the 12th. Is that right?

[Jaclyn]

When do week 2 books count? If the genre is posted later today and someone finishes a book this evening (after it's posted), does it count? Or do we need to wait until July 20th?

[Lindy]

this is all i will have by midnight

13 184 Castle, Jayne Dark Light 435
14 185 Stewart, Mariah Last Look 443
16 186 Leykam, Garrison Classic Diners of Ct 176
18 187 Sachar, Louis Holes bk 1 J 293
19 188 Patterson, James Invisible 491

[Karen ⊰✿, Fiction Aficionado]

That's right Greta. We started the challenge a little early so for the first week books read from the 12th until the deadline (in just under 3 hours) are ok

[Karen ⊰✿, Fiction Aficionado]

Jaclyn - week 2 books count from once the deadline has passed in about 3 hours. So if someone in your team is in a timezone that has the deadline as the 19th and they mark it as read on the 19th (but after the deadline so you didn't include it in your week 1 submission), then you can use it for week 2.
I hope that makes sense :).

[Marla]

Do we get credit for books read toward an incomplete genre name. For instance, 40 pts for YNAL in YOUNG ADULT after we've spelt it once or twice or thrice?

Cuz then it wouldn't matter how long your genre name is after the first instance and the completion bonus.

[SandyC]

Will a book shelved under Religion count for Spiritual? (apologies if this has been asked before)

[❤Stephanie ღ♥ღMrs Daryl Dixonღ♥ღ]

are we going to be able to see how many points we got and what the other teams get also?

[Karen ⊰✿, Fiction Aficionado]

Marla wrote: "Do we get credit for books read toward an incomplete genre name. For instance, 40 pts for YNAL in YOUNG ADULT after we've spelt it once or twice or thrice?

Cuz then it wouldn't matter how long you..."

That's right.
You must finish a spelling of a word before points for a re-read can be gained.

For example:

If my word is SUSPENSE and as a team we have read
SUSPENSE = 80 points
_USPENSE = 70 points
__UPEN_E = 0 points (as the second re-read was not completed)
(Note I haven't included any bonus points in the above example)

[Karen ⊰✿, Fiction Aficionado]

Sandy wrote: "Will a book shelved under Religion count for Spiritual? (apologies if this has been asked before)"

Yes, I'll follow what we did for the last challenge and allow any religious books