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What Else Are You Reading? July 2014



Also, I'm reading Summer Knight. So far I'm not enamored with Butcher as everyone else seems to be. The first 3 books all seemed very formulaic:
1. Blunder around on a murder investigation.
2. Keep Murphy out of it (for her safety because Harry is such a gentleman (read: chauvinist))
3. Struggle to find out who is behind it while Murphy gets in Harry's way due to bad communication
4. Have an epiphany right as it's "too late"
5. Unleash epic magic that Harry scrounges from somewhere convenient
I'm hoping things change soon since it seems like such a popular series.


I see you've read some Peter F. Hamilton so I suggest Pandora's Star

Thanks for the suggestion; a couple questions:
Shouldn't I read "Misspent Youth" first?
Also, Great North Road felt like a really long read to me (longer than some other thousand-page books I've read). So, did Pandora's Star feel complete to you or do you also need to read Judas Unchained?

Thanks for the heads up. I have lots on my too read list, but I don't want to give it up just yet.
I've been meaning to read the Codex Alera series. I'll have to bump it up on the list.

Shouldn't I read "Misspent Youth" first?
Also, Great North Road felt like a really long read to me (longer than some other thousand-page books I've read). So, did Pandora's Star feel complete to you or do you also need to read Judas Unchained?"
I didn't read Misspent Youth so I don't think it's necessary. You definitely have to read Judas Unchained as well. It's definitely a long read. I see you've read Leviathan Wakes. Have you read the second Expanse book yet? Caliban's War is much better IMO.
Pat wrote: "Started Half a King last night - half way through it already... Half a King? More like Half a Book."
Yea. Despite what Joe was saying, it's not on par with his adult stuff.
Yea. Despite what Joe was saying, it's not on par with his adult stuff.

I've been meaning to read the Codex Alera series. I'll have to bump it up on the list."
I like both the Dresden Files and the Codex Alera. So, I say this as a fan of Butcher ...
I did not notice the huge increase in quality in the Dresden books that others see (though the interaction with Murphy does eventually get unstuck - and then restuck at a different point). That said, it does move off of the "monster of the week" format after a while.
As for the Codex Alera, if you don't like the first book, I think you should feel free to stop. (My favorite of the series might be the third book but, if I didn't like the hero from the first few chapters of the first book on, I wasn't gonna like that book either.) Similarly, if Harry Dresden never comes alive to you on the page, then I just don't think the books are your thing.
I do feel, however, that worry about whether Harry Dresden might be a bit chauvinist should be balanced by recognition that Butcher has written into the books more kick-ass (literally) female characters than you'll find in most series and that Harry is often called on his bullshit by other characters.


Yea. Despite what Joe was saying, it's not on par with his adult st..."
I finished it yesterday... it was a good read but definitely not up there with his adult stuff. I know he was aiming it at a younger audience but it seemed a bit thin. Just because its YA doesn't mean there can't be some depth to the story.

I have about 100 pages left of Cibola and I was just thinking last night how much more liked it than Abbadon's Gate.

But parts of it read like fantasy or New Weird. Here's one bit:
[W]e had ridden far out over the rolling plains of North Syria to a ruin of the Roman period which the Arabs believed was made by a prince of the border as a desert-palace for his queen. The clay of its building was said to have been kneaded for greater richness, not with water, but with the precious essential oils of flowers. My guides, sniffing the air like dogs, led me from crumbling room to room, saying, ‘This is jessamine, this violet, this rose’.



I'm about to pick Dreams of Gods & Monsters up from the library this weekend. Hopefully I'm not too disappointed.

I'm about to pick Dreams of Gods & Monsters up from the library this weekend. Hopefully I'm not..."
I hope you like it more than I did!

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I saw the movie...fantastic! - "Use the Schwartz, Lone Starr! Use the Schwartz!"
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I saw the movie...fantastic! - "Use the Schwartz, Lone Starr! Use the Schwartz!" "
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I saw the movie...fantastic! - "Use the Schwartz, Lone Starr! Use the Schwartz!" "
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Bah! Whatever it was called - both have balls and waving big sticks around.

A Storm of Swords: Blood and Gold [Finished]
The Martian [Finished]
Daily Rituals: How Artists Work [Slowly]
Altered Carbon
The Infinity Gauntlet
The Art of Learning: A Journey in the Pursuit of Excellence
Dawn


Dave wrote: "Reading the anthology Rogues . Can't say I'm blown away by anything in there yet..."
The Scott Lynch and Patrick Rothfuss stories are both quite good. There were a few others I enjoyed, though not as much.
The Scott Lynch and Patrick Rothfuss stories are both quite good. There were a few others I enjoyed, though not as much.


Weekend review catch-up time.
I really enjoyed Spell or High Water. Plus, you really can't go wrong with Luke Daniels as a narrator. (My Review)
I also finished reading Dawn, which I sort of have mixed feelings on. (My Review)
I also read Jim Butcher's Dresden Files: Ghoul Goblin and found that to be decent. (My Review)
I really enjoyed Spell or High Water. Plus, you really can't go wrong with Luke Daniels as a narrator. (My Review)
I also finished reading Dawn, which I sort of have mixed feelings on. (My Review)
I also read Jim Butcher's Dresden Files: Ghoul Goblin and found that to be decent. (My Review)

I'm rereading Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency and realizing 1)how little of this novel I remembered and 2)how quickly computers in near future novels look quaint.
Finished Royal Assassin earlier, dived headlong into Assassin's Quest immediately. I will forever kick myself for not reading these incredibly brutal books before now.
Here's my review
Here's my review

I'm currently reading Koko Takes a Holiday by Kieran Shea which feels like the Fifth Element as if it was written by Kameron Hurley. I'm only half way through, but I would highly recommend so far.
Next will be Tomorrow and Tomorrow by Thomas Sweterlitsch.


The Girl With All the Gifts is on my To Read list. I think I am going to read it next.
If you liked "The Girl WIth All The Gifts" and are looking for another great example of the genre, I would recommend checking out God Decays. It is the story of a group of survivors who are travelling to Washington DC to try to figure out why an NSA cryptanalyst knowingly unleased the zombie apocalypse. It is a self published novel and I think it is only available through Amazon.


Mike Carey is one of my favorite comic writers. I especially like series Lucifer and the work he did on XMen Legacy.



Schulz is pretty astonishing.

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