The Mortal Instruments series By Cassandra Clare - Restarting November 8th 2018 with book 6

[Maddie]

23% (view spoiler)[Man Clary's so frustrating! I'm so pleased with Jace for having a go at her, even though he'll regret it later and say he didn't mean it :/ So predictable. I also like how Simon's holding out on Aldertree. (hide spoiler)]

[Maddie]

28% through (view spoiler)[Sebastian reminds me so much of Jem in TMI! All of the characters in the two series are basically replicas! You'll find out when we read Clockwork Angel next. It's so frustrating, like she doesn't see the point in differentiating her characters. (hide spoiler)]

[Haley]

I'll be starting as soon as I'm done with City of Bones and I'll try and catch up with all of you!

[Maddie]

you will xD we aren't reading them in a row so you'll probably really pass us. we're reading one every few weeks

[Haley]

I just want to read the first three before I read clockwork angel on the 28th because that's how it says to read them, but after I read clockwork angel I'm definitely going to slow down.

[Haley]

I just want to read the first three before I read clockwork angel on the 28th because that's how it says to read them, but after I read clockwork angel I'm definitely going to slow down.

[Maddie]

Ah yeah cool :) We're reading in publication order as well. We could probably start Clockwork Angel around the 28th as well if you wanted XD

[Ambisaurus]

45% through and I'm not sure how I feel about this book so far. I keep stepping away from it and coming back and (view spoiler)[I'm not sure how I feel about Maia also, I keep getting weirded out about the Clary and Jace sibling thing and how he wants them to go away together to some place where they can be in love cause they still are and it's just weird for me but I feel like the story has finally stepped up a bit with the whole Simon vampire thing except does anyone else see irony in the whole him becoming one thing somehow? Cause honestly, if he hadn't thought he was already becoming a vampire and broken in to the hotel to see if they could somehow make him not a vampire then he never would've become one in the first place. (hide spoiler)]

[Ambisaurus]

47% And one of the most confusing flashback scenes I've read in probably ever has just occurred. Good lord. (view spoiler)[But seriously, she won't let herself talk to or touch/be touched by Jace as a punishment for herself? Exactly where does this huge bit of overdramatic crap make sense? Jesus, I swear Clary Fray is such a drama queen. (hide spoiler)]

[Maddie]

You swear right Amber! Man everyone I know who's read this series still hates her.

I'm 54% through City of Glass. Read 140 pages last night so that's really good :) (view spoiler)[Okay so somehow the wards came down in Alicante and the demons got in. I wonder how that happened, especially with that paradox??

That scene in the woods with Jace and Clary... So unnecessary... It may as well not have happened.

Good on Clary for going to Sebastian, but stupid of her to think about Jace while doing it. I knew something was off with him, but I didn't think he was a spy for Valentine! The way that Samuel was Hodge also threw me off! Wonder why she has this sense of recognition when she sees him?

How did Clary not know that it was Luke's pack? She knew that he was missing, and she knew he was a werewolf, and yet she still said 'it's not Luke's pack'. She's so retarded.

And then MAX!! That's where I finished, them holding his body after the demon attack :( If only they'd listen to him when he talked about the demons climbing the towers. (hide spoiler)]

[Maddie]

So I'm definitely not getting City of Glass finished by tomorrow, which is when my next challenge section starts, so this'll be on hold for probably another 11 days :/

[Ambisaurus]

54% through City of Ashes and (view spoiler)[there is relationship drama all over the place. I think the person I feel due most for currently is Magnus though because I can see that he really cares for Alec but the fact that Alec doesn't seem to be letting himself really care for Magnus must hurt. Also, the scenes between Clary and Jace and then Clary and Simon, I have to admit those were fairly painful as well. (hide spoiler)]

I'm blaming this book for the fact that I now want to watch Gilligan's island.

[Ambisaurus]

Maddison wrote: "You swear right Amber! Man everyone I know who's read this series still hates her.

I'm 54% through City of Glass. Read 140 pages last night so that's really good :) Okay so somehow the wards came ..."

I think the problem is that I'm not sure if I hate Clary or not. I do however think she's an idiot and wish she'd use more brain power than instantly react whenever something happens to be afoot.

[Maddie]

She's just so annoying I wish she'd use her brain. You see more of her stupidity in City of Glass.

[Ambisaurus]

I'm 74% through City of Glass and gotta admit, I'm loving Jace more. (view spoiler)[The jumping thing he can do and the scene when he first tried jumping out of the little prison, especially Alec's reaction to it was priceless. (hide spoiler)] I swear between him, Simon and Magnus I'm not sure who my favorite character is. I'm also really loving Luke and oh man, (view spoiler)[That scene where Alec started telling his parents that he was seeing Magnus was amazing and so awkward lol (hide spoiler)]

[Maddie]

At least someone's still reading it XD I am, but I haven't for ages.

[Maddie]

I'm finally forcing myself to finish this one. It's my next complete read. So yay :D

[Maddie]

71% done (view spoiler)[Okay so Clary is just going to be able to create such an op rune as to basically make Nephilim into fae and werewolves? What the actual f***? How is she going to do that........ This is such a stupid book. I hate her as a character. Just hate her. (hide spoiler)]

[cali 𖡼.𖤣𖥧𖡼.𖤣𖥧]

Maddison wrote: "71% done [spoilers removed]"

:( Oh no! That sucks that you aren't enjoying it. It's one of my fave series (ever). Clary is super frustrating, though.

[Maddie]

I just hate her, yeah. I like the rest of it, but the fact that it revolves around her all the time and her decisions is just stupid.

[cali 𖡼.𖤣𖥧𖡼.𖤣𖥧]

Maddison wrote: "I just hate her, yeah. I like the rest of it, but the fact that it revolves around her all the time and her decisions is just stupid."

If you don't like her; you're in luck, the second trilogy spans out more (especially CoFA, but sadly brace yourself as she and Jae are... pretty prominent characters in TMI D: )

[Maddie]

Second trilogy? You mean TID? I've read Clockwork Angel because, and in that Will annoys me too. He's basically the exact copy of Jace. And Tessa of Clary, especially as they both have red hair! At least Jem isn't Alec.

[cali 𖡼.𖤣𖥧𖡼.𖤣𖥧]

Maddison wrote: "Second trilogy? You mean TID? I've read Clockwork Angel because, and in that Will annoys me too. He's basically the exact copy of Jace. And Tessa of Clary, especially as they both have red hair! At..."

Well no, sometimes Cassie refers to her series like this:
(CoB, CoA, CoG) is her first trilogy in TMI. Bc that's how she originally wrote them.

Then (CoFA, CoLS, CoHF) are her second trilogy, within the series of TMI.

THEN there's her prequel trilogy, TID. Instead of writing a second trilogy in TID, she's made it it's own, which is the Lost Hours I believe?? (It hasn't come out yet).

And finally, her most recent in development is her TDA series. Lady Midnight came out, and now we are waiting for Lord of Shadows.

There will be 1 more trilogy after that, apparently, in the Shadowhunter Chronicles universe (see her blog/website), and as you can see-- all but TMI have 1 trilogy within their series. I'm sorry this has gotten so compicated-- if I had visuals, it would help. Basically TMI wasn't supposed to get more but then she did to link up with the prequels, which bridged over to the sequel TDA.

Personally, I prefer to read them in the chronological order of setting, rather than publication, because although Cassie makes up new clues in every corresponding trilogy (they're all linked except for the original TMI trilogy), it impacts more for me when you see the family trees grow. I guess you can see that through the other method, but the back and forth doesn't bring the greatest build up IMO. I would get too confused. Good on you for trying that though. But as you can see, things can get pretty complex.

I'd even suggest doing them in the trilogy set. Like do: TMI (1), TID, TMI (2), TDA.

But I'm assuming you're going to read more, and I can see that may be a struggle if you don't like the characters :( But I TOTALLY get it, bc how you feel for them is how I feel for everybody in ToG.

Sorry for such a long response!

(Ps Tessa doesn't have really red hair, does she? I've always seen her as the usual brunette [oh well, doesn't matter haha]. And there may be a reason for why Jace and Will are so similar-- they do have the same angst, but I think Will is way more selfless and caring for loved ones [inc. parabatai, girls (minus the hookers at the beginning of the story), siblings/relatives, etc]).

[Madeline]

The Infernal Devices is very similar but if I was completely honest I liked this trilogy more than the Moral Instruments. At the beginning the characters and SUPER close to being the same thing but if you keep reading you'll grow to love their differences and (in my case) love them more.

[cali 𖡼.𖤣𖥧𖡼.𖤣𖥧]

Madeline wrote: "The Infernal Devices is very similar but if I was completely honest I liked this trilogy more than the Moral Instruments. At the beginning the characters and SUPER close to being the same thing but..."

So far, Lady Midnight has been my all-time fave. I think next would be TID. Just... the whole trilogy. It's perfect.

The only book I do not like from TMI really and truly is the first one; CoB. It is boring as and I don't like how it was written. But after that; it's uphill woohoo.

[Maddie]

city of ashes was so boring for me.

[cali 𖡼.𖤣𖥧𖡼.𖤣𖥧]

I found so too, especially the beginning, but I adORE the Seelie Court scene! And Simon's angst when he (you know what). The rest of it didn't need to be it's own book

[Maddie]

I can't remember what Simon did XD Put it in spoilers?

[cali 𖡼.𖤣𖥧𖡼.𖤣𖥧]

I'm on my phone but I'm gonna try to remember the code: (view spoiler)[ books are great (hide spoiler)]

[cali 𖡼.𖤣𖥧𖡼.𖤣𖥧]

OH YES I REMEMBERED IT okay so the Simon thing I was talking was simply (view spoiler)[when he sees Clary kiss Jace at the Seelie Court instead of him, and runs off through Central Park, then becomes a vampire. Also the running away from home. And Luke giving him a coming out brochure. Loved that part. (hide spoiler)]

[Maddie]

Oh yeah haha.

[Maddie]

How can someone grin slightly??? Smile slightly, yeah, but grin slightly?

Oh god how I want to DNF this book! 40 pages from the end and I just can't stand it. (view spoiler)[The fucking spoiled brat brought Jace back!!! She could've wished for no more demons? Even all of the ideas she thought of, no more hunger, fighting, peace, and she WISHED FOR JACE BACK!! She is soooo selfish!!! This book is probably down to a 2-star now. Not much I'm liking about it. Really disappointed with it. I can't believe Clare can even write about such a selfish main character. This is just crazy. (hide spoiler)]

[Maddie]

Finished. This book took me around 2 months to read. I was just so intimidated by it. The size, the format, the font, the long chapters. Overall, the only thing making me read it was the fact that I'd already started the series, and the hype around it. Initially it started off as a 4 star, like the others, but gradually over the course of the book it got worse and worse. I hate Clary. That's about all I want to say. *Beware potential rage coming* Her selfishness, her almighty conscious, the fact she is so spoiled and thinks that she can do anything, and the fact that she can only fuels her brattiness. She is so petty, she thinks she deserves whatever she wants, but then when she doesn't get it she throws a tantrum and gets it anyway, while making everyone else feel bad when everything goes well because of her. (view spoiler)[The way she can create her own freaking Portals, all because she has THE POWER TO CREATE FREAKING RUNES!? But wait, only because the Angel shows her how to. As if that makes it alright??? Then she Portals to Alicante, where she's been told multiple times NOT TO GO, and when she does she nearly dies because of Lake Lyn. So pleased Luke told her off about that, but she got petty anyway. And then, yknow, she just subtly unnoticeable changed the rune from Valentine's name to hers when he summoned Raziel, therefore taking the favour from him, and who the FUCK would have guessed what she'd wish for??? Oh wait. Selfish little girl again, she wished for JACE BACK!!! Are you freaking kidding me! (hide spoiler)] I wanted to DNF this book right then, because I just couldn't believe it. I had to put the book down, right a mini rage like this in my buddy read thread, and then take deep breaths because it was just so unbelievable. She even went through in her head all of the things she could have wished for, and she chose that. The one thing that didn't change the world for anyone else, only made her feel better. She is so stupid. And annoying. I know I'm not the only one who feels this way, as it's been many a conversation on aforementioned buddy read thread.

Sorry for that long rage about my most hated MC ever, but I just needed to get it out to everyone how I hate her. I just hate her. Not looking forward to the rest of the series :/

[cali 𖡼.𖤣𖥧𖡼.𖤣𖥧]

:( Maddison that's such a shame! I'm sorry that you didn't enjoy it :( I understand though (worth other books). I see your point about Clary.

But I am a huge Clave shipper so her choices (including the major one at the end) were the most epic of epic things (but the context was, I was much younger, and didn't have the knowledge of any following books to exist and I didn't know if they were after all, related)-- it was the epitome of passion! But like I said, being younger, I didn't have a great amount to compare.

I just feel so sad you didn't enjoy it! And that it took you 2 months. That sucks! A book is different for everyone, and I respect your opinion. (But I secretly wish you adore the series as much as I do, but of course, that's… rarer[?]).

I was intimidated by the chapter sizes too. After reading TID, I really enjoyed how Cassie sets up novels and I love huge chapters. As long as its about the characters I enjoy the company of. Because it's inevitable in any series with as many characters as Cassie has created in the Shadowhunter Realm; you're not going to like them all. You may think you do, to a degree, but when there's a life or death situation unravelling, ie all the time, I want to kill her for long chapters with subplots (cough cough Simon in the first 3 books BYEEE).

I felt invited and encouraged to read more through her format, but that may just be me. Through her books, I found my flow and speed for reading (which is quite fast), and how she writes completes my tempo. Obviously for you, it doesn't. I totally get it-- I would probably resonate that situation with Throne of Glass.

I really, really hope you enjoy the next trilogy. A whole bunch of new characters appear! And they're more diverse and there's a lot of downworlder business. Clary certainly matures in the next 3 books; but her nativity sticks (guess it's a character ploy)-- but you'll see why. A certain deceiving bastard plays mind games, and her cliche romance with Jace is in jeopardy (all day, everyday, sister!)-- so I'm sorry in advanced if you pursue these and hate them :( they're my fave. I really love the characters, they're my best friends. I think I put up with Clary bc Jace is a fave of mine. I do enjoy Clary's special rune ability, though. Although it seems silly at the start, there's some great ways it's incorporated in CoFA especially (to do with Simon). It's pretty well developed, and makes a cameo or two in Lady Midnight, nothing major, but it's awesome how well Cassie has developed it within the world.

Anyways, as you can see, I can talk on and on. I really love the series! There are some super boring bits, at least the first time around, but I found I enjoyed it more the second time reading. I think you realise how far the characters grow and you get into the swing of Cassie's format and writing.

Good luck with the future books!! If you dare...

[Maddie]

I still will read them. you write so much!!

[[deleted user]]

Is anyone reading this series still?

[Maddie]

Yeah but we're not reading the next one (Clockwork Angel) until the 24th :) And we've made another thread for it because we got confused. Only Nicole and I are, I think. No idea where everyone else went.

[Haley]

I'm only on city of ashes right now and haven't started yet.

[Maddie]

Alright :) I'll still discuss with you if you wanted to read it here :)

[Haley]

Yeah I'll be reading it here, but when I can fit it in!

[Maddie]

Yeah that's fine XD Let me tell you we are in no hurry with this series :p

[Sarah Elizabeth]

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[Maddie]

Awesome we have a thread :D I'm probably only joining for CoFA though.

[Nicole's Book Diaries]

Joining almost forgot lol.

[Maddie]

XD I probably won't even get around to it..

[Sarah Elizabeth]

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Date Changed. Restarting June 1st 2018. Happy Reading ☺

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[Maddie]

We're also trying to get through Clockwork Prince so sorry guys XD

[[deleted user]]

I'll be joining the first 3 books for the series i believe!!

[Fuzaila]

I'm joining in here and I've already started the first book :)

Chapter 5 (view spoiler)[ Jace seems like a really nice guy. And I hate that Simon was left alone like that gaping after Clary since he was also.on the brink of a confession (hide spoiler)]

[Fuzaila]

Chapter 11. (view spoiler)[ Simon's acting protective big brother all of a sudden uh. And I hate that Clary hates Isabelle for her beauty. It's not like she can help it you binch. I love Jace. He is protective, kind and badass and his bedtime story was just sad. His father doesn't seem like a good man. I'm even surprised he's turned out good. (hide spoiler)]