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[Trixie]

Joanna - Wish I'd put it like that! Perfect :)

[Monty J]

Anamika is behaving like a troll, and we have all been suckered into responding to her troll post. Her profile says she is a "Goodreads Librarian." She's probably paid to drum up activity any way she can so Goodreads can charge more for advertising.

Ignore her.

[Belle ~carry on my wayward son~]

Monty J wrote: "Anamika is behaving like a troll, and we have all been suckered into responding to her troll post. Her profile says she is a "Goodreads Librarian." She's probably paid to drum up activity any way s..."

okay that was a bit harsh.

[Anthony]

But fair

[Belle ~carry on my wayward son~]

Nope

[Anthony]

Well maybe it was unfair to other paid hacks of goodreads but not to our 12 yr old troll

[Belle ~carry on my wayward son~]

Okaayyyy...

[Anthony]

Yep, it's hard to defend a jerk without becoming one

[Belle ~carry on my wayward son~]

When exactly was she a jerk?

[Anthony]

From the beginning through every ensuing post

[Belle ~carry on my wayward son~]

Lets agree to disagree on that one

[Anthony]

Okaayy:)

[Belle ~carry on my wayward son~]

:)
Well im glad we were civilized about that. See, we had different opinions but we didn't start an argument. :P

[Joyce]

Anamika wrote: "One more time I repeat:I just want to know whether anyone else hates the diary.I understand that Anne Frank has suffered many difficulties and I'm not saying it is lame.Al I want to know is whether..."

It sounds like the folks on this thread simply want you say why you hated it - most people do that, give a reason. For example, I hated 50 Shades of Grey because it was written so badly and felt anybody could write garbage like that.

[Mae]

Belle wrote: "Monty J wrote: "Anamika is behaving like a troll, and we have all been suckered into responding to her troll post. Her profile says she is a "Goodreads Librarian." She's probably paid to drum up ac..." quoting you when I said something similar-- really???

[Emma]

Sorry Monty J. But I'm a goodreads librarian too and I never got ask such a thing. As goodreads librarian you can just add books on goodreads and combine editions and well, the kind of thing a librarian does: keeping a library organized. Just wanted to point that out.

[Dee]

nice to see that those of us who are GR librarians are hacks...especially since we spend our own time fixing jacked up book records for others

[Belle ~carry on my wayward son~]

Mae wrote: "Belle wrote: "Monty J wrote: "Anamika is behaving like a troll, and we have all been suckered into responding to her troll post. Her profile says she is a "Goodreads Librarian." She's probably paid..."

Wait what?

[Anthony]

Sorry, I didn't mean to imply all librarians were paid hacks. As I know quite a few, most are dedicated volunteers who do wonderful work for free. I meant to say, that Anamika was gong paid hacks who do promote for money on social media a bad name!!!

My sincerest apologies!!!

[Trixie]

Belle wrote: ":)
Well im glad we were civilized about that. See, we had different opinions but we didn't start an argument. :P"

It's just a shame you didn't show the same civility to certain others ;)

[Belle ~carry on my wayward son~]

Well certain others didn't show me that same civility... XD
But whatever, i know that i was overly defensive and for that i apologize. I know i was rude and i hope i can still be somewhat friends with you guys, but im sorry i still don't agree with that whole brits and americans thing. :)

[Trixie]

Well it's odd you can't agree with something that is fact, Belle - that would be like me saying I don't agree that the events of 9/11 happened - it's there for all to see. Because you can't SEE these subtle differences does not mean that they don't exist. Take it from someone who has lived on both sides of the Atlantic. You know, these differences are what make our different cultures interesting - open your mind to it, it's not a bad thing! Embrace the differences...

As for your apology - that's great, and being friends is also great - so - hands across the ocean and all that :)

[Belle ~carry on my wayward son~]

Well until i SEE it for myself im not going to agree. And sounds good. Lol. Sure. ;)

[Mark]

Joyce wrote: "Anamika wrote: "One more time I repeat:I just want to know whether anyone else hates the diary.I understand that Anne Frank has suffered many difficulties and I'm not saying it is lame.Al I want to..."

Here we disagree while I am no fan of Shades of Grey I am of the opinion that with her books published she had already been very popular apparently and that was the reason she got published. And then the sales exploded and quite a lot of folks followed her example. It might be poorly written but there turned out to be a huge market for that kind of books. While it is not my taste the writer has done well and I am pleased whenever a writer succeeds and a whole lot of people complain that could do better. But the likes of her, Brown and Rowling are laughing all the way to the bank. And they all started a rage and as such deserve everything they got. Have there been better writers, sure, who cares but those who are clearly envious.

[Dee]

she was popular because she was well-known in the fanfiction community and was writing twilight fanfiction, which she then took, changed the names of the characters and republished - which is seriously ethically wrong to me

[Trixie]

Belle wrote: "Well until i SEE it for myself im not going to agree. And sounds good. Lol. Sure. ;)"

Maybe if you broadened your reading you might see these differences - until then you just keep your blinkers on ;)

[Belle ~carry on my wayward son~]

Okay im trying very hard not to write something rude or provocative right now.

[Mark]

Dee wrote: "she was popular because she was well-known in the fanfiction community and was writing twilight fanfiction, which she then took, changed the names of the characters and republished - which is serio..."

she wrote the stories and she can do with them what she wants, like becoming a millionaire. Who wouldn't be flexible then. As for ethically wrong, why?? Twilight is another example of somebody who did quite well even if her writing skills were very much discussed and snickered at.
I like women writers or men writing stuff that enjoy, and I hope they are all successful. And that does not mean I want to read it, but I cannot hate it for the live of me.
Literature and hating, one example: Frank Herbert died too soon and left his Dune series with a huge cliffhanger never to be finished by him. I hate it he never got to finish it.

[Dee]

Mark wrote: "Dee wrote: "she was popular because she was well-known in the fanfiction community and was writing twilight fanfiction, which she then took, changed the names of the characters and republished - wh..."

because it literally was written as bella/edward set in the same place as twilight and she basically did a replace all with the names/places - if you don't have an issue with that ethically that's ok, but for me, she is basically making money off another author by using the idea of their characters/settings - its an unspoken rule in the FF that you don't make money off your work - and most authors who are ok with people writing FF make that as a clear requirement

[Mark]

I do not mind FF and I do not mind people making money of their passion.

I have once read some Twilight as a check on my daughters reading habits and decided that it was not my cup of tea. She is to young for Shades of Grey.

But my point is I do not hate this kind of literary output as so clearly is proven that there is a large market for it. And I am a fan of everybody reading!

[Trixie]

Belle wrote: "Okay im trying very hard not to write something rude or provocative right now."


I was just sitting here thinking about your inability to accept the Brit/American thing, so I'll ask the question that's running through my mind....why are you so unequivocal? Why are you so rigid in your thinking? Are you threatened by this? I'm puzzled by your stance and would really like to know :)

[Dee]

Babafaba(Hypnos)((Awesome Bob))(((Albus Percival Wulfric Brian Dumbledore)))((((Scuttle)))) wrote: "Dee wrote: "Mark wrote: "Dee wrote: "she was popular because she was well-known in the fanfiction community and was writing twilight fanfiction, which she then took, changed the names of the charac..."

why not - authors own the copyright on their work, FF is derivative of that work, so if they dont' want FF written, then they have that right - there are some authors (Diana Gabaldon I know for one) who specifically say that they do not want FF written based on their worlds.

See to me just changing names and locations is wrong, its essentially co-opting someone elses work/ideas and using them as yours - but i'm apparently in the minority - until 50SoG (or 50SoC as I refer to it), FF of popular books wasn't done - yeah, you could find derivative stories of books that were in public domain (things like Jane Austen), but FF for something like Twilight (and it has spawned many others, including Gabriel's Inferno, and Poughkeepsie) isn't done - I honestly wish just one author would stand up and say no, this isn't legit and sue their asses and let a court decide if its legit or not

[Belle ~carry on my wayward son~]

Trixie wrote: "Belle wrote: "Okay im trying very hard not to write something rude or provocative right now."


I was just sitting here thinking about your inability to accept the Brit/American thing, so I'll ask ..."

No. No. And no. Im not. Its just, until i see this for myself i cannot accept it. Im not threatened nor am i rigid in my form of thinking... I just can't agree with something until i know it to be true. And thats that. Lets just drop the matter ok? XD

[Mark]

Babafaba(Hypnos)((Awesome Bob))(((Albus Percival Wulfric Brian Dumbledore)))((((Scuttle)))) wrote: "Yes, but since they are not making money using FF why would it be illegal?
And I agree that Fifty Shades of Grey should have been edited (A LOT) before being published so that it was somewhat origi..."

You can always HATE it like Anamika or just ignore it. Somehow I doubt if the books will be known in ten twenty years time.

Unlike that book/diary by Anne Frank which will still be an important document of our gruesome past.

[Anna]

Joana wrote: "Anamika wrote: "Actually there is a Great Reveal coming out.A few people were annoyed when I didn't tell the reason or used the word 'hate'. Well right now I'm annoyed that a someone is trying to d..."

I applaud you, Joana. Well-said. :)

[Mae]

@Belle -- According to the American Webster dictionary a nuance is a very small difference in tone and meaning. As I said before, and you mocked me, I speak 5 languages and have lived all over the world. I can guarantee you that there are different nuances or differences in tone and meaning between certain expressions as used in the US and the UK. Joodith's point was accurate and "first hand" since she is a Brit that has lived in America, and Trixie another Brit, has been trying to explain that this differences do exist. What I am trying to say, me an American who lived in Ireland, is that you don't need to see it for yourself, for it to be true, and it is not about having faith. This is what a book like AF Diary main purpose is-- we did not see the holocaust, or suffer persecution or had to hide, but by reading this book we learn "first hand"what it was like. ( Read the Guardian on line and watch a couple of hours of BBC America and you will get it)

[Mae]

Eliza wrote: "Joana wrote: "Anamika wrote: "Actually there is a Great Reveal coming out.A few people were annoyed when I didn't tell the reason or used the word 'hate'. Well right now I'm annoyed that a someone ..." Brilliantly said!

[Elizabeth]

I thought we all agreed that Anamika is a bored child who is toying with us like a pile of ants. She is not worth trifling with. Why is everyone still here and arguing about 50 Shades of Grey? IF YOU KEEP YELLING AT EACH OTHER, SHE WINS.

[Trixie]

Belle - you say you can't believe something to be true unless you actually see it. Do you believe what Anne wrote in her diary? Did you actually see what she saw?

You say you're not rigid in your thinking, but don't seem open to the idea of broadening your outlook, which can be done very easily. Mae has made one or two suggestions - and you can even do those things online.

[Kay]

Anthony wrote: "pretty sure anamika is pulling y'alls' chain




I think you've nailed it.

[Monty J]

Elizabeth wrote: "IF YOU KEEP YELLING AT EACH OTHER, SHE WINS."

Yup.

[Juniper]

I stopped commenting on this thread a while ago. I came back to see what the commotion was about. The whole thing has blown out of proportion.

[Monty J]

Juniper wrote: "The whole thing has blown out of proportion."

Yep. A hoax. As my college roommate would say: "A pissant with a hard-on lying supine on a wood chip floating down-river yelling, 'Raise the drawbridge!'"

Zzzzzzzzz.

[Lora]

Dang, I need popcorn.

[Kay]

My nephew, who is currently in graduate school, used to drive us crazy during the holidays: Most of my family would be hugged up to TV sports. However, my nephew would be making surreptitious phone calls to anonymous victims asking them if their refrigerator was running....ah well.

[Ana]

Erin (Paperback Stash) wrote: "What I'm more curious about is why you would hate it before you even read it?" Ahahahah, I totally agree :)

[Mae]

We are still here… because we are having an interesting discussion, about nothing and everything remotely related to Anamika's post. I think it has generated some interesting debates. I think Anamika is trying to figure out a reason to justify her comment. Hopefully in this process quite a few young ones have developed or changed their ideas. It is not about wining, its about debate and information. So what if there is no big reveal? I have enjoyed myself. Someone wants to win? Is there really a purpose to any of these threads, other than discussion? Entertainment ? Killing time? Talking to people all over the world? I say bring it on!

[Anna]

Mae wrote: "Eliza wrote: "Joana wrote: "Anamika wrote: "Actually there is a Great Reveal coming out.A few people were annoyed when I didn't tell the reason or used the word 'hate'. Well right now I'm annoyed t..."

Agreed. :)

[Trixie]

Anamika - what is your role. exactly, as a Goodreads Librarian?

[Dee]

Trixie - a GR librarian basically fixes book records - errors in descriptions, editing series/awards, adding book covers, merging multiple titles of the same book into one file etc