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message 101: by Lisa (new) - rated it 4 stars

Lisa If you have not already, read anything by Elie Wiesel. Inform yourself and come back to us with an honest critic, not hate.


message 102: by Jood (last edited Jun 13, 2014 06:04AM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

Jood Anamika wrote: "Joodith wrote: "AnAmika - apologies for the typo - I too was in a hurry after a long, fraught day. It's just a shame that something like your name being misspelled has "an impact" on you....but I ..."

No Anamika - it's not funny, nor was it meant to be. Read the very thoughtful and considered posts that have come after yours and LEARN from them.


Belle ~carry on my wayward son~ Joodith wrote: "Anamika wrote: "Joodith wrote: "AnAmika - apologies for the typo - I too was in a hurry after a long, fraught day. It's just a shame that something like your name being misspelled has "an impact" ..."

dude. she was being sarcastic.


Anthony Watkins And idiotic


Belle ~carry on my wayward son~ i dont understand why you guys keep coming and writing the same thing. like, we get it, you disagree with anamika. yeah, so do i, but i dont shove it down her throat every five minutes. and yes, hate is definitely a strong word and yes, maybe people are getting offended. but Anamika has her opinion and we have ours. and if you keep telling her your opinion over and over again, i dont think her response will be very kind. also, she's not saying that the holucaust was a good thing, shes just saying she doesnt like anne. so just chill.


message 106: by Jood (new) - rated it 3 stars

Jood Belle wrote: "Joodith wrote: "Anamika wrote: "Joodith wrote: "AnAmika - apologies for the typo - I too was in a hurry after a long, fraught day. It's just a shame that something like your name being misspelled ..."


Just as I was being ironic when you accused me of being rude ;)


Belle ~carry on my wayward son~ lol. yeah, ok, ill admit it was funny, but still rude. xD


Anthony Watkins Every 5 min? My last post before this one, was 3 days ago


Belle ~carry on my wayward son~ i didn't literally mean "every 5 minutes". i just meant that you guys comment frequently. and you weren't part of that "you guys"
sorry if i offended you..


Anthony Watkins Ok


message 111: by Jood (new) - rated it 3 stars

Jood Belle - you're from The States, aren't you? I forget that you guys view "rudeness" in a different way from the way we Brits do - it's subtle, but there are differences. I remember when I lived in Canada my humour was often called "rude", but the meaning was different.

Ah the nuances of the English language, eh......which is why I suggested, way back, that Anamika's first language is not English and I felt she has simply chosen the wrong word in her opening post. So I do defend her, in a small way, for that. However, getting upset over a silly typo is something else.....


Belle ~carry on my wayward son~ yeah, actually i am. and we don't view "rudeness" in a different way. fine let me rephrase "mean" and theres no doubt that you are very "humorous" but if anamika gets upset over such silly things as typos- especially if- then maybe you could just have kept that little bit of "irony" to yourself. and im not trying to offend you, im just a generally sarcastic person.


message 113: by Tytti (new) - rated it 4 stars

Tytti Joodith wrote: "Belle - you're from The States, aren't you? I forget that you guys view "rudeness" in a different way from the way we Brits do - it's subtle, but there are differences."

Yeah, I've noticed that Americans think many things are "rude"... Like I might find Anamika's question "rude" but I just find it stupid.

And if you declare that you hate someone's diary (and first herself, too) without any explanations, people probably don't always feel the need to be polite.


Belle ~carry on my wayward son~ @ Tytti, is that your real name?


message 115: by Tytti (new) - rated it 4 stars

Tytti Belle wrote: "yeah, actually i am. and we don't view "rudeness" in a different way."

Yes, you do.


Belle ~carry on my wayward son~ and yeah, i agree, she should definitely explain why so that maybe people can relate a little better. but like i said, people just keep coming back and saying the same thing, which is sorta annoying.


Belle ~carry on my wayward son~ Tytti wrote: "Belle wrote: "yeah, actually i am. and we don't view "rudeness" in a different way."

Yes, you do."


well i don't agree.


message 118: by Tytti (new) - rated it 4 stars

Tytti Belle wrote: "@ Tytti, is that your real name?"

Yes?


message 119: by Tytti (new) - rated it 4 stars

Tytti Belle wrote: "Tytti wrote: "Belle wrote: "yeah, actually i am. and we don't view "rudeness" in a different way."

Yes, you do."

well i don't agree."


I rarely see non-Americans calling people rude.


Anthony Watkins Being an ass is a bit rude. I will let you all figure out which foot that shoe fits


Belle ~carry on my wayward son~ Anthony wrote: "Being an ass is a bit rude. I will let you all figure out which foot that shoe fits"

well then why don't you stop being rude...


Belle ~carry on my wayward son~ @ Anamika, maybe you should just delete this thread since all you seem to be getting is hostility.


message 123: by Tytti (new) - rated it 4 stars

Tytti Anamika wrote: "I don't exactly hate Anne,only the diary.Besides I'm also trying to research on books and a few of you aren't of any help at all.(No offense)"

What is there to research in this matter? She wrote a diary, like so many others do every day, she was killed and her father (and many others) thought her diary was worth publishing. It is an important testament of the era. So you didn't like it, so what? Saying that you hate it just makes you sound petty.


message 124: by Jood (last edited Jun 13, 2014 12:12PM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

Jood Anamika wrote: "It was a typo,I agree.But it does make a difference to me due to a personal reason.

I don't exactly hate Anne,only the diary.Besides I'm also trying to research on books and a few of you aren't of..."


You seem to have a lot of "personal reasons" - you don't want to explain why you started the thread, you offer no explanation why a simple typo is so offensive, and you dismiss my attempt at defending your use of the word "hate". It is obvious to anyone reading your comments that English is not your first language - nothing wrong with that, and nobody has suggested there is.

You say you are "doing research on books" and "a few of you aren't of any help at all", Let me enlighten you, my dear...this is not the way to go about getting help! How do you expect people to help you in your research when firstly you declare hatred for an iconic person and her much-loved diary; surely you MUST have known that before you made such a declaration. Secondly you have maintained a strange secrecy over the reasons for this, and your only input has been evasive.

You have managed, with your silly comment, to stir up a lot of passion here, which is not necessarily a good thing, but I've reached the point where I really couldn't care less about your "research", your opinion, or the words you choose to express that opinion, which I'm sure you now realise is not shared by the majority of people.


message 125: by Iris (new) - rated it 5 stars

Iris LMFAO You're all rude and you're all not rude. Opinions and expressive language is rude by definition, because not everyone agrees with what is being said. So picking who comes across as rude here is just a waste of opinion and distracts from the topic, which is already wearing thin...


message 126: by Iris (new) - rated it 5 stars

Iris As for the chastising of Animika, why do you guys continue? She obviously could not care less about what you guys are saying about her character and her opinions. I'm not saying that she doesn't need a good strong reprimand, but enough of you have told her off both kindly and unkindly that the point is well made and should have already impregnated her mind.


Michielle Joodith wrote: "Anamika wrote: "It was a typo,I agree.But it does make a difference to me due to a personal reason.

I don't exactly hate Anne,only the diary.Besides I'm also trying to research on books and a few ..."


Sheesh, I haven't flip flopped so much on a person's motives in a long time. Maybe I need some Pamprin. I'm back to agreeing with you on this Joodith.

Anamika, if you want to delete this post, There should be an "(edit)" at the end of the title of the thread. Click on "(edit)" look after the "save" button and click "delete this topic." Problem solved. I retract my previous opinion that this may be a watermark for your maturity. Best of luck with your "personal problems."


message 128: by Tytti (last edited Jun 13, 2014 12:48PM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Tytti Iris wrote: "LMFAO You're all rude and you're all not rude. Opinions and expressive language is rude by definition, because not everyone agrees with what is being said."

Eh... no, that's not rude "by definition", that's just called having an opinion.


Elisa Santos I have tunned back from this thread a long time ago.

I think that if Anamika wanted some help with a research of some kind, there are better ways of getting help without insulting a dead person and all of the other posters that took their time to answer her.

The only good thing about this is that the diary is getting more attention.

I am not about to contibute anymore and maybe all of you should think about what your contributions worthed, so far: a lame excuse about personal reasons and an over-exagerated sensitivity about a typo.


message 130: by Maya (new) - rated it 3 stars

Maya Everyone! This constant hate is getting ridiculous. I'm just wondering why ONE PERSON'S opinion is making everyone so mad. You might not agree with her, but Anamika can think whatever she wants! She isn't damaging YOU'RE respect/admiration of Anne. As much as people try (myself included, I admit) you can't change another person's opinion of something. If they are set in thinking some way, it's not going to change unless that person chooses to change it. Also, this is just making new issue, like Americans somehow 'take being rude differently'. I'm not sure what this is implying, that Americans are more sensitive or something? I seriously doubt that. I think all that is rude, but hey, maybe it's just because I'm American, right? And I think that this is kind of insulting, but I'm American, so...(yeah, and that was sarcasm) If I'm assuming wrong about that comment then someone please enlighten me on what you really meant, because I honestly just don't understand.


message 131: by Tytti (new) - rated it 4 stars

Tytti Maya wrote: "I'm not sure what this is implying, that Americans are more sensitive or something?"

I don't know, you are the ones calling people rude. Well no wonder if disagreeing with you is also "rude"...


message 132: by Jood (last edited Jun 14, 2014 12:15AM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

Jood Maya - If you are insulted by my reference to the nuances of the English language I cannot help that; I was simply pointing out the differences, over which I have no control. I have lived in North America for several years and despite what you, as an American think, there are subtle differences in the way the English language is used. We even use different words for the same thing. Unless you have lived in the UK for any length of time you would probably be unaware of this. It's by no means insulting anyone to point this out, and it isn't a negative thing, - it just IS. This was why I wondered of the young girl who started this thread had misused the word "hate" - she now assures me she used it deliberately! It is not a word I have used towards her, neither have I called anyone "rude".

This has now become a very tiresome thread, with people becoming upset over the most trivial things - a typo here, the use of a certain word there, the suggestion of an insult....it's all so silly.

Anne Frank was a thirteen year old Jewish girl who lived in hiding during one of the worst periods in recent history - fact.
She wrote a diary - fact.
She had not intended for her diary to reach the public, it was for her own private thoughts - fact.

Now some silly little girl, who hasn't read these thoughts declares not only hatred for the diary, but its author - fact.

Facts cannot be argued with.


Belle ~carry on my wayward son~ Joodith wrote: "Maya - If you are insulted by my reference to the nuances of the English language I cannot help that; I was simply pointing out the differences, over which I have no control. I have lived in North..."

first, thats not a nuance of the english language. if what you say is true (which it isn't) then it doesn't have anything to do with the language but with the culture or people. and you do have control of what you say and the way you say it, and the way you said it was kind of condescending. and why do you keep putting quotation marks around the word rude? the only silly thing here is that you keep on coming back and writing that you disagree with anamika and that hate is a strong word and that she should re-evaluate. we get it, and yes, you are right, anne frank was very brave and lived during a horrible time in history that we should never forget, but just because you keep writing that it doesnt mean anything is going to change. honestly, i agree with you but restating your opinion every time someone writes something is just irritating.


message 134: by Mae (new) - rated it 5 stars

Mae Has anyone thought that she may be trying to record peoples reactions to her comment? She is young, english is not her first language, apparently well read (sort of and for someone young) does not know really how Goodread works, but she certainly has stirred a bees nest here. Except for the whole rudeness thing its been quite interesting a discussion… Which by the way, as an american living in Europe, what is rude or not changes around the world. English sarcasm and humour is as different as the spelling of the word in each country! We americans have a hard accepting that people out there that speak english are actually different to us. To Anamika… I am waiting for your reasons, whatever they are, inquiring minds...


message 135: by Jood (new) - rated it 3 stars

Jood I am now signing out if this discussion as I just don't care enough about it....or the fact that people cannot accept there are differences in the way we behave, speak and live. That's Life - deal with it....


message 137: by Mae (new) - rated it 5 stars

Mae Joodith wrote: "I am now signing out if this discussion as I just don't care enough about it....or the fact that people cannot accept there are differences in the way we behave, speak and live. That's Life - deal ..." You were grand… you had some very valid points. I agree there is communication issue as far as nuances are concerned. Sad to see you leave.


message 138: by Mae (new) - rated it 5 stars

Mae Belle wrote: "bye." now now, that was not very nice…


Belle ~carry on my wayward son~ Mae wrote: "Belle wrote: "bye." now now, that was not very nice…"

-_- really?


Belle ~carry on my wayward son~ Anamika wrote: "Belle wrote: "Mae wrote: "Belle wrote: "bye." now now, that was not very nice…"

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I don't see why you can't do that."


and then they say americans get offended easily :P


Belle ~carry on my wayward son~ Anamika wrote: "I don't know what exactly to say."

cuz she said that it wasn't very nice...not about what you wrote, about what @mae wrote


message 142: by Lisa (new) - rated it 4 stars

Lisa really? We are still talking about this? Let's move on. Someone either made a mistake or wanted attention. Either way...let it go. A wonderful new topic is in order. Happy reading and please remember that we each have an opinion and that my friends, is really the important point. I would like to say that MS Frank is no longer the topic. That would have been a good discussion.


message 143: by Mae (new) - rated it 5 stars

Mae Belle wrote: "Anamika wrote: "Belle wrote: "Mae wrote: "Belle wrote: "bye." now now, that was not very nice…"

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I don't see why you can't do that."

and then they say americans get offended easily :P"
For the record I am an American that speaks five languages and has lived all over.


Belle ~carry on my wayward son~ Mae wrote: "Belle wrote: "Anamika wrote: "Belle wrote: "Mae wrote: "Belle wrote: "bye." now now, that was not very nice…"

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I don't see why you can't do that."

and then they say americans get offended ea..."


good for you.


Elisa Santos Hahahah Anamika must be rolling herself laughing, rwading this.

So, this thread, about this great book has come to...nitpicking at each other?


message 146: by Trixie (new) - rated it 3 stars

Trixie No I don't hate this diary - but I think you're a bit daft for even posing the question the way you have.


message 147: by March (new) - rated it 5 stars

March Anamika wrote: "One more time I repeat:I just want to know whether anyone else hates the diary.I understand that Anne Frank has suffered many difficulties and I'm not saying it is lame.Al I want to know is whether..."

Suffered many difficulties? Oh dear, perhaps you should read a bit about the period and about Anne and only then make up your mind as to what you've read in the diary or perhaps you should just go back to reading The Percy Jackson books which are not lame or boring at all.


message 148: by [deleted user] (last edited Jun 14, 2014 05:42AM) (new)

Maria wrote: "So, this thread, about this great book has come to...nitpicking at each other?"

I've actually been wondering if Amamika's research topic might be a Psych Ops kind of topic... kind of like, how long does it take people to turn on each other when prodded in the just the wrong way. Or for people to bully someone who they don't agree with (which is even more troubling). I really pray that this diary has not been used in this way and that I'm wrong; however, I also hope that everyone who has been involved in this can make peace.


Elisa Santos Elizabeth wrote: "Maria wrote: "So, this thread, about this great book has come to...nitpicking at each other?"

I've actually been wondering if Amamika's research topic might be a Psych Ops kind of topic... kind of..."


I have been wondering just the same: the explanation is always postponed to another time - it was a few days, not she says it´s in 2 weeks time. The research topic may be about how long will take for people to turn one against each other, when the original poster haven´t explained the reasons for the post.

And i must say that, in some cases, it´s really demonstrative about how long it takes....

But like you said - i hope everyone can make peace with each other - after all, life is too short.


message 150: by Tytti (new) - rated it 4 stars

Tytti Belle wrote: "Anamika wrote: "Belle wrote: "Mae wrote: "Belle wrote: "bye." now now, that was not very nice…"

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I don't see why you can't do that."

and then they say americans get offended easily :P"


The difference of course is that you tried to be deliberately mean and offend others while adding nothing to the conversation. Unlike Joodith who tried to make a point.


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