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Feb 05, 2017 05:14AM
I just hope Dani hasn't screwed her way through Dublin. And I honestly hate the thought of Mac an Barrons being king an queen. They both hate the fae.
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Well she said "it does not pick up where Feversong ended, but at a different time". Given the twisted ways of KMM that could mean both in the future or in the past, no? Like maybe right after Iced, when Dani went through the Silvers? I'm with Emily on this one, I don't really see the point of another big time jump right now.
@Saphia we're on the same bloody page with those questions :))
Guys, KMM posted this in Facebook (nothing new, but in her own words):"I announced this at the signing today so posting here. The next book up for me is a Dani novel. It does not pick up where Feversong ended, but at a different time (and that's all I'm saying for now.) The title is HIGH VOLTAGE - A Fever Novel. Last signing is over so it's back to my bliss, aka the writing cave. It's been great getting to meet so many of you at the con/signings and in chats!
I don't have a release date yet but it definitely won't be January 2018. Possible February, March, April...I asked my pub to move me out of January because a con is hard for many readers to tackle right after Christmas. Will post when they let me know. =)"
@Deea, yeah I was thinking about the possibility of a jump into the past too, but now that Dani's been established as a young adult instead of a kid, KMM probably won't go back into the past except in flashbacks. But I'd love it if she did! =D
I seem to be the only one who thought Dani always had deep feelings for Dancer, and she only forced herself to friendzone him because that's what she does, keep people at a distance. The scene with Ryo and the kiss was *hot* but you don't want that kind of rough passion for you first time, come on people!
I feel like the tension between them has been dragging too long and that's why most readers wanted Dani to end up with him anyway, because it's been clear for some time that's where they are heading.
Regardless, I was in tears when Dancer died, they were so happy for that short while and it didn't feel forced to me.
The whole Mac as Faery Queen though, meh. And the ending, Barrons with wings? That doesn't even make sense. Does she mean that the power of the UK will choose Barrons? That can't be right. And to know that Cruce is still alive and yet again deceived Mac, that's something I want a novella about! I've been a hardcore Barrons fan but I really feel like their story arc should have ended after Shadowfever. It just got boring after that.
My guess for High Voltage is that we are going to get Dani's time Silverside! I hope so.
Here is what KMM wrote on her facebook page about the ending :
But to take it slightly further, Feversong was the end of Mac & Barrons story arc, not the end of me writing in the Fever World. I finally got M & B to the place I needed them to be according to my vision for the series. But I didn’t want to slam a door on them because in my mind they’re still living, changing, having adventures and evolving. Maybe Mac will remain the Queen. Maybe she won’t. Maybe the UK magic will go to Barrons. Maybe it won’t. Maybe they’ll both reject the seemingly pre-ordained fate in the mural. The ending traces back to the Unseelie king saying at the end of Shadowfever to Mac, “not the only possible.” The series took root in the themes of possibility and choice. It seemed only fitting to end with possibilities and choice.
June wrote: "Deea wrote: "Whoa whoa, let's not turn this into a tense situation ladies. :)I'm with Mel and Melissa on this one. I don't have a problem with KMM's way of not answering Qs, not knowing more abou..."
I just had to reply to you because I loved your messages on here. I'm going to start by saying that I was blocked right before Burned came out. There was information leaked that it was mostly a Mac book, and I made the unpardonable mistake of telling some people that. Her people blocked me, and then posted that the book was an equal Dani/Mac book. No joke. They were desperate for sales.
I actually believe that Karen did intend for Ryodan to eclipse Barrons. Karen stated a few times that one of her all time favorite books is Atlas Shrugged. Ryodan is a very similar to an important character from that book. Iced truly was her best book, then with Darkfever. She started giving in to her writers at Bloodfever (with the sex scene and making Barrons more romance novel alpha male). The only reason it worked with Bloodfever is because she didn't have to change the entire plot. This is something a few people also noticed so it's not surprising that she went this way.
You are right that Karen will milk this fever series for all she can. Calling someone an ass when they stated the truth shows her lack of empathy. Not even that she treated her fans poorly, but that she doesn't respect her own writing talents. This worries me for the Dani novel. She didn't go back on the last three books, either because she didn't want to or she felt stuck. But I'm very curious if the Dani novel will be like Iced. She really destroyed the characters to the point where they are mere shadows of themselves. But if there is a chance it'll be good, I'll take it. I read her Burned (when it was Dani's novel) teaser and it struck me how that little excerpt was better than all three books combined. I didn't read the last one but got the gist. I can't do that to myself anymore lol. Bottom line, I'm not holding my breath for an Iced novel. I just don't see how she can go back, but I'll wait for the reviews. Rant over.
Honestly lol even if Karen does milk the fever series as much as she can, I'm still going to read every single one. I don't want it to end.
Saphia wrote: "Honestly lol even if Karen does milk the fever series as much as she can, I'm still going to read every single one. I don't want it to end."That's fine and I know there are people who enjoy it. Her Fever series has lost it's reputation for being unique urban fantasy though. It was all about substance and not length. Ward and the like write by formula and have predictable plots. Nothing wrong with that but that's something Karen prided herself never to be. I hope that her next book goes in a positive direction.
Olya wrote: "Ward and the like write by formula and have predictable plots. Nothing wrong with that but that's something Karen prided herself never to be."Exactly my thoughts on her last three books! The fever story and the characters became exciting and unique because they were unpredictable. Now it's too easy to guess what they're going to do and how they're going to react. All of them.
There's so many series that I keep tabs on. When a new book from those series comes out I skim it at the bookstore or library, just because of some curiosity about how the plot is progressing. But the fever series was different, one of those where every word mattered.
I really hope that the next book is actually good. Maybe it being a stand-alone story instead of a series with cliffhangers will help.
The reason why they became more predictable was because we delved deeper into there lives. For example, in Burned when Mac was invisible, that was the first time we really got to see the inner workings of The Nine and what it looks like.I don't really understand why people are complaining about this paticular issue. I mean Karen could have chosen to keep us in the dark about a lot of things and had everyone could've remained a mystery, and people would complain about not getting to know these characters.
The more you learn about them, the more you can guess at what they're going to do next because they're more familiar to you.
Personally, I've loved learning more about these characters and figuring them out. Even if certain decisions they make, become predictable in doing so.
Karen's still good as surprising me. Like the whole Dancer having a terminal illness, Cruce being alive, the mural in BB&B etc. And all the forshadowing throughout these books and how it interconnects, which makes up for it in my eyes.
It seems like Karen had a decision to make. To keep the mystery, she could keep her characters in the dark, and in doing that keep characters like Mac and Dani in the dark as we learnt about them more through there POV's or she could lose some of the mystery aspect of the characters in favour of letting us know there inner workings.
Think back into book one, with Barrons you could never predict what he'd do next. And now you can sort of have an inkling what he'll do. (I say 'sort of' because c'mon he's still Barrons)
It was great to be able to guess what he'll do next, but would you all have wanted this to last the entire series. Not learning anything about him?
I just feel like Karen very well could have kept the mystery, but in doing so we would have lost a lot of character development. Which is what Karen is all about.
I don't know if I've gone off topic, lol but it's late and i'm tired.
Saphia wrote: "The reason why they became more predictable was because we delved deeper into there lives. For example, in Burned when Mac was invisible, that was the first time we really got to see the inner work..."Yeah I agree. I think Karen even said that the second arc was all about getting to see the workings behind the curtain that was still up in the first 5 books. I'm excited to see what the third arc will be about since its a total mystery to us all lol.
I was happy with Feversong. I agree with the folks who say that the 2nd set of books isn't quite as good as the 1st, but it's impossible to resurrect the tension between Mac, Barrons, and V'lane. By the end of Feversong, all my important questions were answered and I very much appreciated her humanizing of V'lane/Cruce. I hope to see him back again. I liked Iced a lot, but I think KMM sort of created a box for herself by getting Dani involved with Ryo when she was still 14. (At the time I was hoping that Ryo was Dani's dad, and I still sort of wished it had gone that way.)
Now she's had to slow down their relationship, which unfortunately has made Ryo seem a little less exciting then he otherwise might have been. Good punt, though, in this last book. Perhaps in future books we'll see Dani and Ryo do the reverse of the Mac/Barrons thing, with Dani the pursuer.
I have to admit I'm not in love with the current Dani character - I really don't like Jada and Dani still seems to need a lot of filling out. But, I'd be interested in a book where Ryo gets in trouble with the Nine's governing council for turning the Highlander and Dani and Ryo's relationship goes up a notch.
I still really like the series and will keep buying them as long as she keeps writing them. I'd love to see another book or two focusing on the battle and negotiations between the Seelie and Unseelie Courts with Mac as Seelie Princess, and Cruce representing his Unseelie. I guess I'm excited to see her jump several years into the future in her follow-on books.
Denisa wrote: "Olya wrote: "Ward and the like write by formula and have predictable plots. Nothing wrong with that but that's something Karen prided herself never to be."Exactly my thoughts on her last three bo..."
At this point if it's not stand alone the book will fail. People were already getting tired of characters coming back and the same old.
Saphia wrote: "The reason why they became more predictable was because we delved deeper into there lives. For example, in Burned when Mac was invisible, that was the first time we really got to see the inner work..."Except she spent the entirety of Burned trying to convince you that Iced never happened. She didn't just explain the characters, she talked them into another personality together. Especially with Ryodan because he was hated on most. That was the entire basis of her last three books: get away from Iced. That's why we still have so many plot holes and unanswered questions. Books 1-6 truly did have foreshadowing and plot twists. I like how people said that Mac and Barrons just came back to what they were in Shadowfever. There was no point for them to come back. She was beating a dead horse and lost a lot of readers because of it. If people want simplicity, they can read authors who write faster. The point here is if Karen gets away from that and makes a new plot for the Dani novel then she might just succeed.
Am I hard on her? Yes, because I know she can write better. Her telling her readers how they are not reading and interpreting her works right is just another thing against her. If she was honest from the beginning about Burned and the direction she wants to take, she wouldn't have got all this.
I agree with Olya. I thought I was the only one who thought this. I love KMM's writing & ICED was my fav book. I loved Dani & Ryo's banter but then she decided not to continue with Dani's trilogy & she spent Burned back-tracking & explaining things through Mac's VP. There was info that wasn't consistent with what she'd shown before, Ryodan was one of them. Where was his gavel, his bad ass? It was as if he'd become a different animal altogether. (Pun intended). Yes, it was her perogative. She has a right to do/write however she wants, but I still disliked Burned and Feverborn . There was a lot of "explaining" in Burned -- too much for me but I kind of understood why she did it. She'd gone through a lot of trauma in her life so I chalked it up to that. Then Dani was out of the picture in order to bring Mac to the forefront while DanI went missing in the silvers & I didn't care for Jada either. But that's beside the point. I haven't read FeverS yet until I'd heard reviews. But I intend to read it soon. In KMM's defense, I'll still always read what she writes. She's a very talented writer & it's because of her that I started reading Urban F.
Karen rekindled my long lost love of reading with her original fever books so I'll always be thankful for that! To not be pessimistic: her moving away from the last three books in timing and plot is a positive sign. She was very confused in Burned and you could tell in her writing. Perhaps this taught her to not listen to her readers. Something to think about: the title of her next book is original, like Iced. Burned was meant to be a Dani novel so this is good. The bad: we don't want Karen to write this novel quickly. One year=major formula. Even if she decides to go back to Iced and resurrect some plots, it will take a while to piece it together. So if she writes this quickly I'll be suspicious of that. Although the ending of Feversong really screwed up some of her plans. I truly don't know what she will do but here is to hoping!
Audrey-anne wrote: "The scene with Ryo and the kiss was *hot* but you don't want that kind of rough passion for you first time, come on people! "I can't completely agree with this one. Because Dani isn't your normal human woman. Didn't they do it like multiple times her first time? And up against an alley wall? lol She was holding out on poor Dancer because of his condition. I'm sure she would have handled Ryodan juuuuust fine. :)
Hey guys! :-)Something curious i noticed while listening to the audio of feversong - the man that abandoned Dani's mom (the one that didnt believe in Fae and etc) was called Seamus O'Leary and had three young sons. Then probably Mick O'Leary, who Mac killed together with the grey woman when the book first took over her, was one of his sons. Killed in a very karma-fashion by a Fae creation.
I have a question with a bit of a spoiler. Did I dream this or did we find out in one of the previous books that Mac didn't remember the first time she actually met Barrons? This is driving me crazy trying to remember the details...
I think it was in Feversong we find out that Barrons took a memory away from Mac, I think it was the second time they met (Darkfever). At her grubby hotel she was staying at, he went to her, they exchanged words, had fun times together then she had instant regrets but for him it was and I quote 'the best night of his existance'. So he pushed her memories to the back of her mind until she was ready to deal with them.
Thank you so much! Yes, that is what I was trying to remember. I thought that would come up and she would find out, but I don't remember that she ever did. Thanks again!
She does end up remembering later on in the book, when they go to see Dani/Jada for the first time at the Abbey.And you're very welcome! :)
Hehe i noticed that Kmm mentioned the mural already in bloodfever.. I'm guessing the ending was indeed the plan all along
Hey guys I don't know if any of you noticed, but Karen posted on her Facebook about 2 weeks ago that the High Voltage Dani book is set 2 years in the future and she says it has " definitely more of a sexy than "I" knew was coming" . So it's a time jump andddd has a sexy feel in Danis book!!!!
I love the books the way they can and actually love books because of not too much sex on it. I believe in Karen(aka goddess) i am sure she is not going to be cheesy on sex *cross fingers*
I wonder how Ryodan and Dani reconcile. He rejected her, thats how she see it, when he stopped there kiss from going any further. I wonder if she's still chilling in Dublin. And if she's been avoiding him for the last two years.
She was embarrassed that he saw her at her weakest so yeah, I think she probably did try to avoid him for a while at least. He may have let her have the room she needed for a bit but I do think he's anxious to train her. That should be interesting.
I hope KMM doesn't skip over Ryo training Dani! I'd love to see all of that. I too wonder if Dani went off on her own with Shazam or if she hung around Dublin with the crew. Do you think she'll be the leader of the sidhe seers for all this time? Do you think ryo and Dani will be like friends, or has she been avoiding him? Should we make a new page for High Voltage speculation? :)
Hi All. New, but not really new here. I wanted to put in my 5 cents having read many of the reviews and thought they were a little harsh. Having recently read the series (in order) I have lately found a new appreciation for the second narrative arc (after Shadowfever), but I digress. A little back story is needed here.
“Things never stop going wrong. Life isn’t about waiting for peace to arrive, it’s about learning to thrive in the midst of war. There’s always another one on the way” GODAMN BARRONS LET ME BE DELUSIONAL LIKE?? 😭
