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TOG #6: Tower of Dawn > TOG #6 ~ Plot Theories

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message 101: by Blythe (new)

Blythe (blythe_alexandra) | 69 comments Um its not a prequel its the story BEFORE throne of glass the first one


message 102: by Diane (new)

Diane (mystifiedswift) Well since it's not absolutely necessary to read it to understand things, I'd say it's a prequel. I mean, Thronw of Glass came out before The Assassin's Blade.


message 103: by Gillian (new)

Gillian (Heartoffire) | 152 comments I know about those, but what about this chaol thing everyone's talking about?? and queen of glass?? what's that?


message 104: by Diane (new)

Diane (mystifiedswift) The Chaol thing is a novella to be released on June 27, 2017. It's about the events that happened with him and Nesryn during EoS. Queen of Glass is the original version or "draft" of Throne of Glass.


message 105: by Jillian (new)

Jillian (jillianm_reads) | 16 comments The Chaol Westfall novella is coming out at the end of June


message 106: by Jillian (new)

Jillian (jillianm_reads) | 16 comments Oops sorry didn't see your comment :)


message 107: by Gillian (new)

Gillian (Heartoffire) | 152 comments so is that all then? chaol novella, assassins blade ect, and the queen of glass?


message 108: by Gillian (new)

Gillian (Heartoffire) | 152 comments thanks guys! ❤


message 109: by Diane (new)

Diane (mystifiedswift) Well there's The World of Throne of Glass which hasn't come out yet. And there's a novella called The Assassin and the Princess which wasn't officially released, but you can find it online.


message 110: by Gillian (new)

Gillian (Heartoffire) | 152 comments okie dokie. thank you.. gotta have some material to hold me over for the next nine months yaknow? XD


message 111: by Gillian (new)

Gillian (Heartoffire) | 152 comments I just saw something "friendly reminder that Evangeline will be heartbroken to think that lysandra is gone BC she is now Aelin..." FML THE FEELS, ROWAN BETTER FIND AELIN FAST!


message 112: by Diane (new)

Diane (mystifiedswift) OMG I DIDN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT THAT.
*sobs*
But, I'm pretty sure that they'd explain to Evangeline what happened. Evangeline would know that Aelin is Lysandra.


message 113: by Gillian (new)

Gillian (Heartoffire) | 152 comments very true.. I just saw that and I was like ohhh nooo.... anyway.. DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW I CAN FIND THE BONUS CONTENT OF EOS??? I KNOW THERE IS SOMETHING WITH CHAOL AND SOMETHING ABIUT CHOCOLATE CAKE THAT AELIN MADE BUY I CANT FIND IT.. IF ANYONE CAN HELP!?


message 115: by Diane (new)

Diane (mystifiedswift) You can get all of the bonus stories here: http://kaylaejamison.blogspot.com/201...


message 116: by Gillian (new)

Gillian (Heartoffire) | 152 comments thank you soooo much! :) <3


message 117: by Tristen (new)

Tristen (bo0kenthusiast) I'm gonna hold off reading the bonus content with Chaol until the novella comes out because . . . actually I really don't know


message 118: by Gillian (new)

Gillian (Heartoffire) | 152 comments what? lol


message 119: by notchloemarie (new)

notchloemarie (chloesworld) I'm pretty sure Aelin made Rowan chocolate cake in empire of storms not in the bonus content cause I've read both of the Aelin one's and none of them have Aelin making a cake cause it happens in EOS


message 120: by Katy (new)

Katy Plsi (katplsi) So, I'm pretty sure Gavriel will die protecting Aedion.
I think, even though I don't want it, that Aelin will die, that she will not try to fight Maeve once she is with her in Doranelle , or wherever, and that she won't fight back. Because she knows she won't make it, and that there's nothing she can do to help.
I think Aedion will eventually forgive Lyssandra.
I think Manon will fight against her grandmother, but it won't be Manon that kills her grandmother but Asterin. And Asterin will die afterwards.
I think Elide will obviously go full witch-mode and help in the battle and will replace Asterin in The 13.
Chaol will obviously come back in his full glory and be very mad and disappointed with himself because he was not there with Aelin. So Dorian will go talk to him and they will have a cute BROTP moment.
I think that Nox, (remember him from book 1?), will come back and will help them fight against Maeve. You know, because Aelin saved him
Rowan will probably go kill Maeve all angry because she killed Aelin, and will know that he won't make it, but he will still go and fight. So Rowan dies to, and is reunited with Aelin
And Aedion and Lysandra will rule Terrasen.
Oh! And Aelin's friends from the kitchen in Wendlyn will convince all the others to rebel against Maeve and they will ally with Terrasen.
And Dorian will end up ruling Adarlan of course.
Oh, and Dorian will keep Fleetfoot.


I dont think any of this will happen, because it is all very cray, but all we know for sure we should be ready for suffering.
I am already beginning to mentally prepare myself for this final book.


message 121: by Jillian (new)

Jillian (jillianm_reads) | 16 comments My predictions (all are subject to change):

Aelin will live, and get a happy ending with Rowan in some way shape or form. After all Aelin has gone through, I don't believe Sarah would just kill her. Aelin's story will not be a story of darkness.
However, Aelin will have to sacrifice something, most likely her magic. But Rowan will still call her fireheart because duh. Maybe she loses her fire magic, but the small amount of water magic from her mother's side saves her.
I agree that Gavriel will die protecting Aedion, and knowing Sarah, it will be right after they develop a close relationship.
I don't have the most developed opinion on Dorian yet, but I think it's likely that he will be the one to sacrifice himself. Hollin will likely come into play, since Sarah never creates minor characters for nothing. If Dorian dies, than Hollin will get the chance to redeem himself and he will become king. Although I like the idea, I don't think Hollin will be sacrificed because he is a child, and Dorian wouldn't allow that.
As for Dorian and Manon, I don't think they will be a couple since they have two different kingdoms to run, but they will be really good friends.
As a few others have said, Manon will eventually fight her grandmother, but she will give Asterin the killing blow.
I don't think she'll die, but Asterin is the only witch who has a chance of death. I am so certain that Asterin's daughter is still alive, and if Asterin dies, her daughter will become Manon's second.
I also think that Elide and Lorcan are mates and will end up together because they are both guided by the certain gods ( forgot their names).
If Aedion survives, Lysaedion will happen and they will forgive each other. I ship them soooo hard. Aedion my smol son better not die.
If Dorian dies, Chaol will be heartbroken (poor baby) but he will eventually come to terms with Dorian's decision and respect it. He and Nesryn will both survive, and rely on each other. Also, I'm expecting Chaol to save the day with troops from the southern continent, and he and Aelin to be really good friends.
On a side note, I want Rowan to save Aelin rather than Aelin saving herself. She needs to realize that people love her enough to get her back from Maeve, and she has saved herself enough already.
I'm pretty sure Ansel and Manon will be friends and be badass together, while ruling neighboring kingdoms.
I think Nox, Emrys, and Luca will come back, and the last two will help free Aelin.
All in all, i hope most characters get a happy ending, especially Rowan and Aelin.


message 122: by Gillian (new)

Gillian (Heartoffire) | 152 comments Chloe, it doesn't happen in EOS.. its in the exclusive content of heir of fire, there's a link a little ways down.


message 123: by Gillian (new)

Gillian (Heartoffire) | 152 comments Elena said that for the time she gave aelin that the gods are going to banish her to darkness and nothingness where she won't get to see her friends and family in the afterworld ever again... which means the afterworld is like a second life where you can still interact.. I'm pretty sure Aelin will somehow survive, but if she doesn't, I think Rowan will follow her to the afterworld to be with her forever. (I mean, I would!) and aedion can be king. and lysandra queen.. ooooo ;)


message 124: by Gillian (new)

Gillian (Heartoffire) | 152 comments Lol Kat, I just read yours and realize we have some of the same ideas


message 125: by notchloemarie (new)

notchloemarie (chloesworld) Oh okay @Gillian I was like really certain it was in it sorry ❤️

as for what price Aelin will have to make I saw a post on Instagram and it said "nameless is my price" the nameless king of adarlan died at the end of QOS what if he's the nameless price that had to pay?
I mean anything could happen it IS a sarah j Maas book ahah


message 126: by Taylor (new)

Taylor (taylorkoziak) | 4 comments The thing is, SJMaas has never completed a series before, so we don't know if she's going to pull a huge character death. All i know is that if Aelin dies, i will riot


message 127: by Diane (new)

Diane (mystifiedswift) You know how Sarah said she gets her foreshadowing skills from JK Rowling? You know how 17 characters died in The Deathly Hallows? You know how The Deathly Hallows was the last book? O_O I'm so scared...


message 128: by Jillian (new)

Jillian (jillianm_reads) | 16 comments Also, since Sarah has never completed a series before, do you think she's the type of author who would include an epilogue?


message 129: by Diane (new)

Diane (mystifiedswift) Maybe. I think she would.


message 130: by Jillian (new)

Jillian (jillianm_reads) | 16 comments I don't think she will for ACOWAR because she plans to write more books expanding the series, but I agree that she will for ToG


message 131: by Gillian (new)

Gillian (Heartoffire) | 152 comments Chloe its fins don't apologize I just wanted to help you find it lol


message 132: by Gillian (new)

Gillian (Heartoffire) | 152 comments Good thought.. but when the king died he didn't die trying to forge the lock :/


message 133: by Tristen (new)

Tristen (bo0kenthusiast) An epilogue sounds good


message 134: by Gillian (new)

Gillian (Heartoffire) | 152 comments By epilogue do you guys mean something afterwards that says what they do for the time after the book ends or a summary?


message 135: by Tristen (new)

Tristen (bo0kenthusiast) Gillian wrote: "By epilogue do you guys mean something afterwards that says what they do for the time after the book ends or a summary?"

It's the thing after the book ends. And I like the sense of closure we get when it's a glimpse of the future.


message 136: by Taylor (new)

Taylor (taylorkoziak) | 4 comments I think she would do an epilogue for ACOWAR because the next books afterwards aren't going to center on Feyre and Rhysand like they did. I honestly think they're going to center on Miryam and Drakon


message 137: by Gillian (new)

Gillian (Heartoffire) | 152 comments ah I see


message 138: by Gillian (new)

Gillian (Heartoffire) | 152 comments who is miryam and drakon?? the heck? *is confused*


message 140: by Tristen (last edited Jan 02, 2017 04:59PM) (new)

Tristen (bo0kenthusiast) Taylor wrote: "I think she would do an epilogue for ACOWAR because the next books afterwards aren't going to center on Feyre and Rhysand like they did. I honestly think they're going to center on Miryam and Drakon"

I really wanna read about the second generation though

Also, this thread is for ToG, not ACOTAR


message 141: by Tristen (new)

Tristen (bo0kenthusiast) Gillian wrote: "who is miryam and drakon?? the heck? *is confused*"

They're characters from SJM's other series.


message 142: by notchloemarie (new)

notchloemarie (chloesworld) Actually maybe she might for ACOWAR like maybe it might lead into the next spinoff series? And as for TOG I expect an epilouge


message 143: by Tristen (new)

Tristen (bo0kenthusiast) chloe marie wrote: "Actually maybe she might for ACOWAR like maybe it might lead into the next spinoff series? And as for TOG I expect an epilouge"

She said it could be a spin-off or prequel, but can't tell us which because it would most likely give away the ending of ACOWAR


message 144: by notchloemarie (new)

notchloemarie (chloesworld) In an interview with (I think it was) Jessethereader she said it might feature some of the characters that survive acowar


message 145: by Gillian (new)

Gillian (Heartoffire) | 152 comments tristen what is it called


message 146: by Gillian (new)

Gillian (Heartoffire) | 152 comments OH. Its from acomaf lol I didn't recognize the names at first.


message 147: by Gillian (new)

Gillian (Heartoffire) | 152 comments can SJM just keep milking these series?


message 148: by Tristen (last edited Jan 02, 2017 11:03PM) (new)

Tristen (bo0kenthusiast) Gillian wrote: "can SJM just keep milking these series? "

I don't think she can milk ToG any further :(

But she really is expanding ACOTAR with that whole new trilogy plus the two novellas


message 149: by Taylor (new)

Taylor (taylorkoziak) | 4 comments I was directing my comment to an earlier one, but i'm on mobile so I can't reply directly.


message 150: by Gillian (new)

Gillian (Heartoffire) | 152 comments YESHHH MUAHAHAHA


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