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Where do you think the unknown location will be in CoHF?

Also they have taken a hard look at everything they did wrong with the first movie and how relies end that the people who read the books are much older and instead aim for a much older audience!!!



The City of Bones adaption, was too tame and it was more focused on Jace & Clary's relationship and Valentines strange fight at the end.
I hope when they make City of Ashes, they take the book into more consideration and stick to it. Instead of throwing things from the begging of the book- to the middle and end if the film. It's ridiculous.
For example; in the book they end up outside Luke's house through the portal around the 100 page mark. In the film- it's practically at the end. -.-
And as myself and Miss Morgenstern agreed- they have their work cut out for them finding a perfect and appealing Sebastian.
I'm not a fan of his- but there is a large fan base that will be pissed. If they screw him up.

Well, I've already stated who I think would make a prefect Sebastian. But that's just me, little midget over here! I can't speak for the world, but I do know that like, all the little fan girls are signing petitions to get Conor McLain the role.
But I swear, if they don't get it right, I will burn down the world myself!

I've come across a description in City of Bones- red roiling clouds with black lightening. That cloud be part of pandemonium? :)
You may be small, but you are mighty! :) I can imagine you going all rampage and going on a man hunt for screwing him up :')



It like a triangle.. Love/incess/bromance triangle

Yes, I do in fact think Amatis is going to die. This has been on my mind for a while now, but I've never mentioned it because I don't really want Luke to lose his family :(
As for Sizzy,..."
I've often heard of Izzy becoming an Iron Sister but I dont want to believe it. I dont know why, it just seems wrong, like she's given up life and fighting. That would be like giving up being Izzy Lightwood.
I do agree with your Simon theory though. Probably because I dont want him to die...
As for Malec, I have a feeling that one of them will die. Maybe Alec? I dont know why people always think Magnus dies. I do hope they get back together before one of them dies. I wouldnt mind more Malec. :-)


As for Simon, I have recently been speaking to Miss Morgenstern and I have come up with a theory;
What if Simons Sacrifice in City of Heavenly Fire is to go with Raphael- he had always wanted Simon because he's a Daylighter- but in return for information on Magnus's father?
So his sacrifice is giving into Raphael and being part of his clan.
Magnus Bane. They kill him off. I will raise hell.



As for Simon, I have recently been speaking to Miss Morgenstern and I have com..."
I'm not sure I agree with your new theory. I remember reading a snippet from CoHF about Magnus and how his breath had rattled before he'd said his fathers name. I think Luke's and Raphael's conversation might have to do with the gut feeling I have about Luke dieing.

Sure there was the relationship Rose had with Dinitri, then a short time with Adrian- but I wouldn't say it was that.
And Sydney & Adrian- there is no love triangle. Unless you count Ian :')
VD- I've been told it's good, but I've never watched it.

I do think Luke has a higher probability of dying, but not for the reason we are speaking about. I think Simon and Raphael will have conflict- the always have- it wouldn't be fair if City of Heavenly Fire didn't get any of it :')



One name keeps coming back to mind is Marbras- I don't think it would be him- just the name is floating around up there. I'm not even sure it's been mentioned before :/

I don't want any of them to die I guess. We have grown with them- they are our fictional friends- and we don't kill friends! Or wish them dead :')
But I do think Alec is going to die, I always have. Now I'm up there thinking Luke is going to go too.
Izzy is a complicated character- I think the Iron Sisters would be an expected leap for.
Remember what was said when Jocelyn and her costed them- "in difficult times, in dark times, some people shine" - maybe she does something completely unexpected on City of Heavenly Fire- that could be; becoming an intonation sister or showing how much she really does shine through her skills and personality.
If I come up with any theories for her- I shall let you know! :)


Seriously, I will go all ninja turtle on whoever is cast as Sebastian if he isn't gorgeous. But if it happens to be Conor McLain, I'll probably die in the cinema or something.
Please, don't say anything about Vampire Academy, because I haven't read them yet.
"Cassie makes the strangest threesomes #Will#Tessa#Jem."
Wait - Jem and Will are gay now?
And I don't ever recall there being goats in The Vampire Diaries …

I guess it's like with Damon Stephan and Elena ...no wait Katherine ... Yea more so Katherine, how she goes from brother to brother and says 'we can all share'

P.S. Sorry if you are getting tired of me. Just say so if I am.

Has the City of Heavenly Fire book trailer been released yet?

Plus the movies like gr8

Yeah, Marbas was the demon who cursed-Will-but-didn't-really-curse-him.
When Will pounced across the Lightwoods's gardens and ran after Marbas, one of the demons' teeth had burrowed in his arm, and Magnus used that to summon the bastard.

Plus the movies like gr8"
I am also a redhead like Cassie :)

In the shadowhunter codex it says;
Sammael: he hasn't been on earth for hundreds of years. He was said to have been killed by archangel Michael for softening the veils between the human world and the void. Though he has not been seen in so long- there is no proof he is actually dead.
Then there is Azazel: the lieutenant of hell and forger of weapons- the greatest of greater demons. He was once an angel (which could be why the witch stone lit up for Magnus when he touched it?) Azazel's role was to show humans how to make weapons in times before angels only possessed them. This treacherous had caused him to fall from heaven and become a demon. In a technicality- he taught humanity the knowledge to fight against the very thing he became.
Azazel could very well be Magnus's father. :)


And that emergency thing. Sebastian has probably striked again.

But I have just read the snippet again- maybe it could be Luke or even Isabelle.
It's hard to say really- since we don't know what comes before or after the snippet! :(
http://www.hypable.com/2013/10/23/mor...