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message 202: by Call.me.tictac (new)

Call.me.tictac | 337 comments Yea I just saw it they said that, while after the movie was released in August and didn't do to well in the box office, they did hold off making another movie, but to the thanks of the support of the fans the series will be continued with the same main characters from the first movie. They begin shooting hopefully this may :)
Also they have taken a hard look at everything they did wrong with the first movie and how relies end that the people who read the books are much older and instead aim for a much older audience!!!


message 203: by Call.me.tictac (new)

Call.me.tictac | 337 comments Really hope that they do better and change he style of the movie... :)


message 204: by Naomi (new)

Naomi Speakman (missmorgenstern) | 1379 comments Yeah, the City of Bones adaption was too light, if you know what I mean - you probably don't, but the book was dark, and so is City of Ashes, so I hope they get the atmosphere right this time


message 205: by Call.me.tictac (new)

Call.me.tictac | 337 comments Of course, and they changed some things that can really screw up the rest of the series (movie wise) #puttingThatDamnPortalInTheInsutiteAndSayingThatPotalsAreFormedWhenClearlyHenryInvitedTheFirstPortal!!


message 206: by Laura Jayne (new)

Laura Jayne (lauraajayynebooks) The books get darker and darker as they go along, until we are practically in hell. Wouldn't surprise me if that's what Pandemonium is :')

The City of Bones adaption, was too tame and it was more focused on Jace & Clary's relationship and Valentines strange fight at the end.
I hope when they make City of Ashes, they take the book into more consideration and stick to it. Instead of throwing things from the begging of the book- to the middle and end if the film. It's ridiculous.
For example; in the book they end up outside Luke's house through the portal around the 100 page mark. In the film- it's practically at the end. -.-

And as myself and Miss Morgenstern agreed- they have their work cut out for them finding a perfect and appealing Sebastian.

I'm not a fan of his- but there is a large fan base that will be pissed. If they screw him up.


message 207: by Naomi (new)

Naomi Speakman (missmorgenstern) | 1379 comments City of Fallen Angels seemed the darkest in the series for me, then City of Bones, then City of Ashes, then City of Glass, then City of Lost Souls, and I'm sure City of Heavenly Fire is going to be dark … very dark, considering they travel to the demon realm and everything, Pandemonium whose towers are made of bone.

Well, I've already stated who I think would make a prefect Sebastian. But that's just me, little midget over here! I can't speak for the world, but I do know that like, all the little fan girls are signing petitions to get Conor McLain the role.
But I swear, if they don't get it right, I will burn down the world myself!


message 208: by Laura Jayne (new)

Laura Jayne (lauraajayynebooks) I thought City of Ashes and City of Fallen Angels were both very dark. City of Heavenly Fire is going to be like the bottomless pit! :')
I've come across a description in City of Bones- red roiling clouds with black lightening. That cloud be part of pandemonium? :)

You may be small, but you are mighty! :) I can imagine you going all rampage and going on a man hunt for screwing him up :')


message 209: by Call.me.tictac (new)

Call.me.tictac | 337 comments Have you seen the book trailers for 'City of Heavenly Fire' ??


message 210: by Laura Jayne (new)

Laura Jayne (lauraajayynebooks) I haven't :) I never watched any for the others either :)


message 211: by Call.me.tictac (new)

Call.me.tictac | 337 comments You really should :) and the other, cause if I recall correctly it may just hint a bit more about the book... Plus it has Sebastian saying all this wierd stuff about jace n clary...


message 212: by Laura Jayne (new)

Laura Jayne (lauraajayynebooks) Well Jace and Clary kind of grew on Sebastian in City of Lost Souls- so I would suspect they are pretty much the centre of his little world now. Even if they don't feel the same way :)


message 213: by Call.me.tictac (new)

Call.me.tictac | 337 comments Haha yes... It like he see Jace as his brother (even though not related) and clary as his lover (even though they are related)
It like a triangle.. Love/incess/bromance triangle


message 214: by Kaatastrophical (last edited Apr 17, 2014 10:38AM) (new)

Kaatastrophical | 16 comments MortalAcademy wrote: "Izzy :)

Yes, I do in fact think Amatis is going to die. This has been on my mind for a while now, but I've never mentioned it because I don't really want Luke to lose his family :(
As for Sizzy,..."

I've often heard of Izzy becoming an Iron Sister but I dont want to believe it. I dont know why, it just seems wrong, like she's given up life and fighting. That would be like giving up being Izzy Lightwood.
I do agree with your Simon theory though. Probably because I dont want him to die...
As for Malec, I have a feeling that one of them will die. Maybe Alec? I dont know why people always think Magnus dies. I do hope they get back together before one of them dies. I wouldnt mind more Malec. :-)


message 215: by Laura Jayne (new)

Laura Jayne (lauraajayynebooks) They have a very strange relationship, the three of them. Jace and Sebastian are so much a like. The only reason Clary isn't torn from choosing between is because of the demon blood Sebastian possesses and everything he's ever done.


message 216: by Call.me.tictac (new)

Call.me.tictac | 337 comments Cassie creates stranges threesomes #WillTessJem


message 217: by Laura Jayne (new)

Laura Jayne (lauraajayynebooks) I don't want her to become a Iron Sister either, but I do think it would be a great honour for her and her family. :)
As for Simon, I have recently been speaking to Miss Morgenstern and I have come up with a theory;
What if Simons Sacrifice in City of Heavenly Fire is to go with Raphael- he had always wanted Simon because he's a Daylighter- but in return for information on Magnus's father?
So his sacrifice is giving into Raphael and being part of his clan.

Magnus Bane. They kill him off. I will raise hell.


message 218: by Laura Jayne (new)

Laura Jayne (lauraajayynebooks) Will, Jem and Tessa were not strange. They are the best out of them all! :)
I love Jem and Tessa.


message 219: by Call.me.tictac (new)

Call.me.tictac | 337 comments Yes well it different compared to other love triangles such as twilight were the two guy hate each other, and VD


message 220: by Laura Jayne (new)

Laura Jayne (lauraajayynebooks) Twilight is terrible. And VD? Is that Vampire Diaries?
I haven't seen that, unfortunately. :(


message 221: by Call.me.tictac (new)

Call.me.tictac | 337 comments Love triangles... Hmmm wat about vampire academy or bloodlines.. And yes VD is Vampire Diaries... It has everything supernatural vampires, werewolfs, witches, goats ect. It's really funny and the cast is perfect!! :)


message 222: by Kaatastrophical (new)

Kaatastrophical | 16 comments MortalAcademy wrote: "I don't want her to become a Iron Sister either, but I do think it would be a great honour for her and her family. :)
As for Simon, I have recently been speaking to Miss Morgenstern and I have com..."


I'm not sure I agree with your new theory. I remember reading a snippet from CoHF about Magnus and how his breath had rattled before he'd said his fathers name. I think Luke's and Raphael's conversation might have to do with the gut feeling I have about Luke dieing.


message 223: by Laura Jayne (new)

Laura Jayne (lauraajayynebooks) Vampire Academy- I wouldn't really say was a love triangle. Nor would I say bloodlines was.
Sure there was the relationship Rose had with Dinitri, then a short time with Adrian- but I wouldn't say it was that.
And Sydney & Adrian- there is no love triangle. Unless you count Ian :')

VD- I've been told it's good, but I've never watched it.


message 224: by Call.me.tictac (new)

Call.me.tictac | 337 comments Ian...yea I was thinking more alone the lines of Marcus and his merry men... XD


message 225: by Laura Jayne (new)

Laura Jayne (lauraajayynebooks) I think anyone would be apprehensive about meeting their demon father. Plus he says to one of the demons he's summoned that they go into too much information, when it goes to say his fathers name. But he cuts it off.
I do think Luke has a higher probability of dying, but not for the reason we are speaking about. I think Simon and Raphael will have conflict- the always have- it wouldn't be fair if City of Heavenly Fire didn't get any of it :')


message 226: by Laura Jayne (new)

Laura Jayne (lauraajayynebooks) Marcus and his merry men! :D and don't forget London Bridge who will rough Adrian up outside :p


message 227: by Call.me.tictac (new)

Call.me.tictac | 337 comments Do you have any idea who Magnus father may be?? I know he I powerful an whatnot, but maybe Cassie has mentioned him in TID...*been so long since read all z series need to read them again for city of heavenly fire so I know what going and is about to o down*


message 228: by Call.me.tictac (new)

Call.me.tictac | 337 comments Haha London bridge..fergie... I take it you have seen Vampire Academy movie??


message 229: by Kaatastrophical (new)

Kaatastrophical | 16 comments Yeah... I think Im giving into your theory unwillingly:-) I know you've said it before but: who do you think will die? Do you have any theories about Izzy( I adore her!)?


message 230: by Laura Jayne (new)

Laura Jayne (lauraajayynebooks) A lot of circulation is going round that is sammual. Along with Lucifer, but honestly- I don't actually have any idea who it could be.

One name keeps coming back to mind is Marbras- I don't think it would be him- just the name is floating around up there. I'm not even sure it's been mentioned before :/


message 231: by Call.me.tictac (new)

Call.me.tictac | 337 comments Ok yea, cause it must be really bad or something cause Magnus just hates talking bout it...


message 232: by Laura Jayne (new)

Laura Jayne (lauraajayynebooks) Yes! :D

I don't want any of them to die I guess. We have grown with them- they are our fictional friends- and we don't kill friends! Or wish them dead :')
But I do think Alec is going to die, I always have. Now I'm up there thinking Luke is going to go too.
Izzy is a complicated character- I think the Iron Sisters would be an expected leap for.
Remember what was said when Jocelyn and her costed them- "in difficult times, in dark times, some people shine" - maybe she does something completely unexpected on City of Heavenly Fire- that could be; becoming an intonation sister or showing how much she really does shine through her skills and personality.

If I come up with any theories for her- I shall let you know! :)


message 233: by Laura Jayne (new)

Laura Jayne (lauraajayynebooks) I think I would too tic tac. His adoptive father tried drowning him. Then he is actual son to some big ass demon. I'd be pissed. :')


message 234: by Naomi (new)

Naomi Speakman (missmorgenstern) | 1379 comments I've just had to catch up on this conversation!

Seriously, I will go all ninja turtle on whoever is cast as Sebastian if he isn't gorgeous. But if it happens to be Conor McLain, I'll probably die in the cinema or something.

Please, don't say anything about Vampire Academy, because I haven't read them yet.

"Cassie makes the strangest threesomes #Will#Tessa#Jem."
Wait - Jem and Will are gay now?

And I don't ever recall there being goats in The Vampire Diaries …


message 235: by Call.me.tictac (new)

Call.me.tictac | 337 comments Oh god that last paragraph made me laugh so hard... Ghost I meant ghost...


message 236: by Call.me.tictac (new)

Call.me.tictac | 337 comments Jem and will arnt gay I meant as in a three people group, though I wouldn't be surprise if there were fanfics about them...three
I guess it's like with Damon Stephan and Elena ...no wait Katherine ... Yea more so Katherine, how she goes from brother to brother and says 'we can all share'


message 237: by Kaatastrophical (new)

Kaatastrophical | 16 comments Isn't Marbras the demon who cursed Will? Well, cursed... Magnus didn't really seem to have any kind of family relationship with the demon when he summoned him for Will. Right? Or did I miss a few details?

P.S. Sorry if you are getting tired of me. Just say so if I am.


message 238: by Naomi (new)

Naomi Speakman (missmorgenstern) | 1379 comments I love Katherine. "Have them both. I did."

Has the City of Heavenly Fire book trailer been released yet?


message 239: by Call.me.tictac (new)

Call.me.tictac | 337 comments N as for vampire academy, I really recommend reading them... They are one of the funniest series you will ever read and the author is a redhead like Cassie
Plus the movies like gr8


message 240: by Naomi (new)

Naomi Speakman (missmorgenstern) | 1379 comments Izzy wrote: "Isn't Marbras the demon who cursed Will? Well, cursed... Magnus didn't really seem to have any kind of family relationship with the demon when he summoned him for Will. Right? Or did I miss a few d..."

Yeah, Marbas was the demon who cursed-Will-but-didn't-really-curse-him.
When Will pounced across the Lightwoods's gardens and ran after Marbas, one of the demons' teeth had burrowed in his arm, and Magnus used that to summon the bastard.


message 241: by Call.me.tictac (new)

Call.me.tictac | 337 comments Yes !! It's good ... And weird


message 242: by Naomi (new)

Naomi Speakman (missmorgenstern) | 1379 comments Call.me.tictac wrote: "N as for vampire academy, I really recommend reading them... They are one of the funniest series you will ever read and the author is a redhead like Cassie
Plus the movies like gr8"


I am also a redhead like Cassie :)


message 243: by Call.me.tictac (new)

Call.me.tictac | 337 comments They you go :)


message 244: by Laura Jayne (new)

Laura Jayne (lauraajayynebooks) I can remember a demon been summoned that had "apparently" cursed Will. I just can't remember the name- it might very well have been Marbras- and that's why I can remember it.
In the shadowhunter codex it says;

Sammael: he hasn't been on earth for hundreds of years. He was said to have been killed by archangel Michael for softening the veils between the human world and the void. Though he has not been seen in so long- there is no proof he is actually dead.

Then there is Azazel: the lieutenant of hell and forger of weapons- the greatest of greater demons. He was once an angel (which could be why the witch stone lit up for Magnus when he touched it?) Azazel's role was to show humans how to make weapons in times before angels only possessed them. This treacherous had caused him to fall from heaven and become a demon. In a technicality- he taught humanity the knowledge to fight against the very thing he became.

Azazel could very well be Magnus's father. :)


message 245: by Kaatastrophical (new)

Kaatastrophical | 16 comments Yeah, you could be right. I never really thought about the witchlight incident. BTW what do you think the emergency is when Jocelyn texts Clary at the end of the snippet whete she is shooping with Simon.


message 246: by Kaatastrophical (new)

Kaatastrophical | 16 comments Sorry if you discussed it before.


message 247: by Naomi (last edited Apr 17, 2014 11:56AM) (new)

Naomi Speakman (missmorgenstern) | 1379 comments When Magnus summoned Azazal in CoLS, the demon did seem pretty pissed to be disturbed, and was reluctant to leave, but he mentioned Magnus's father as well, calling him Feabus or something.

And that emergency thing. Sebastian has probably striked again.


message 248: by Kaatastrophical (new)

Kaatastrophical | 16 comments Thanks! Your probably right about Sebastian as well.


message 249: by Laura Jayne (new)

Laura Jayne (lauraajayynebooks) I honestly put out more research into these books and City of Heavenly Fire, than I do my work for University :')
But I have just read the snippet again- maybe it could be Luke or even Isabelle.
It's hard to say really- since we don't know what comes before or after the snippet! :(


message 250: by Laura Jayne (new)

Laura Jayne (lauraajayynebooks) I suppose Cassie may or may not have mentioned the demon in the Codex in case she gave anything away? :(
I was just sat saying Feebus to myself over and over. To realise it was the guy from Disney's Hunchback of Notre Dame :')


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