Large Book Data Import

[rivka, Former Moderator]

It looks like the Gottfried book was either a bad import from 2012 (from a source we no longer use) or from a user.

Edits from users have higher priority than imports, so they should not be overwritten by them.

[Andrea]

the 'onix brilliance' feed has been modifying a number of Audio CD's titles to look like the "sort title" field
(The Fault in Our Stars -> Fault in Our Stars, The)
(An Abundance of Katherines -> Abundance of Katherines, An)

[Philip]

I would think that there should be a way in the import script progamming to automatically add the missing periods in Author names, because "onix ingram" specifically but I think I have seen it from others, just keep dumping new Author names with the period(s) missing.

[Andrea]

Sarah wrote: "I've corresponded with the team that should be filtering out the TestASIN books and we'll hopefully get that prioritized for a fix."

found two TestASIN imported a couple of days ago

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2...

also these two seem to be left over from before...

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2...

[Plethora]

Oh Goodreads PTB for import scripts.....


Not sure what to do here. [Well aside from adding the book without the ASIN, but I think the issue needs to be addressed not swept over. There should be an available ASIN for the record to be created.]

This book: Little Witch shows the ISBN-10/13. Which matches the Amazon page for the Kindle edition ASIN: B00E25G3G4

Normally the imports have been showing both ISBN/ASIN and you can go in open and save the record with the ASIN showing to overwrite the duplicate of the ISBN/ASIN. However on this one if you edit, nothing shows up for ASIN.

There is weird changes from ONIX overwriting things, one of the things being the book type was changed from Kindle to Unknown Binding. It appears to have add the ISBN, don't know if it over wrote an ASIN or it was blank. If you search WorldCat it shows an ebook with the ISBN from Skyhorse Publishing. So I'm not overly inclined to change this book to an Amazon Kindle, as I think an ebook with this ISBN does exist outside of Kindle land. So I went to add a new book for the Kindle version with the ASIN. It won't let me save, saying that ASIN is in use already. If you search by ASIN it opens this record. I can't see the ASIN, but clearly something has been mucked up.

[Debbie's Spurts (D.A.)]

Screenshot of my ebook edition copyright page is at https://d.gr-assets.com/photos/140927... ; but, the isbn showing when I bought on Barnes and Noble site is 9781626363588 so I think the copyright page accidentally kept the paperback isbn noted at publisher page for this book http://www.skyponypress.com/book/?GCO... (you may have to click " detailed into" to have isbn show). Which clearly shows paperback is 1616089644 (isbn13 9781616089641) and ebook is 9781626363588.

Usually goodreads can accept the data from publisher page...

[Plethora]

D.A.-bully victims suffer more than a ★ on their commercial product wrote: "I can confirm that is the isbn on my nook edition (ebook format/binding). Give me a minute and I'll screen capture it for you. It also thinks "60th Anniversary edition" should be in edition field."

Thanks DA, I was fairly certain that some ebook not "unknown binding" did exist. Still would like to add the Kindle using the ASIN.

Is Skyhorse the publisher? As the Onix removed that as well.

What a mess.

Can we flag all of Onix's changes ;) Will that get any attention.

[Debbie's Spurts (D.A.)]

I was adding links to publisher page and a screenshot as you were posting--that link (you have to click "detailed info") or screenshot should be showing what the onix import should have brought in.

Sorry for the cross-posting; image coding slowed me down.

[Debbie's Spurts (D.A.)]

Well, for the kindle http://www.amazon.com/Little-Witch-An... is where that exists so I think you are safe to also add the kindle edition; image link http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I...

[Lobstergirl]

Seems kind of lame that onix ingram wouldn't know what binding a book has
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2...

and what binding a book has or who the publisher is
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2...

[Moloch]

Some TestAsins

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2...

[Lobstergirl]

Is everyone else seeing an increase in the number of imports with "Not Avail" as the publisher? Onix ingram seems to be the culprit. How can they not know who the publisher is? Aren't they......in the BOOK BUSINESS?

Here are three examples I found in 30 seconds of searching...

https://www.goodreads.com/book/edits/...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/edits/...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/edits/...

[Kerry]

Additionally, the descriptions on those three books all have the same formatting issue: punctuation (maybe just apostrophes?) has been replaced by "OCO" for some reason.

[Sophie]

You know, it seemed like a good idea, now that Amazon owns Goodreads for Goodreads to automatically import Amazon's data, but it turns out Amazon's data is horrible. The vast majority of the Librarian work I've been doing lately is fixing editions with missing or outright wrong data that was imported. I kind of miss the days when only human beings could add books.

[Michael]

Sophie wrote: "You know, it seemed like a good idea, now that Amazon owns Goodreads for Goodreads to automatically import Amazon's data, but it turns out Amazon's data is horrible..."

Like.

[Lobstergirl]

https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...

amazon_kcw imported these with author "Emblem Editions" rather than the actual author.

[Amerdale]

#416 fixed

[Lobstergirl]

This title from amazon_sable has to be seen to be believed...

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...

[Andréa]

Not sure if this is the right place to post this, but the Amazon import seems to have overwritten the ASIN information on the Kindle edition (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...) of The Twelve Dates of Christmas: Dates 1 and 2, so now the book is labelled as a Kindle edition but bears an ISBN instead of the originally listed ASIN.

I imagine the change can just be reverted, but is there a way to prevent the imports/feeds from overwriting legitimate data in the future?

[Philip]

#419 - Fixed

Working onDone creating the ebook edition that that should have been assigned to.
The Twelve Dates of Christmas: Dates 1 and 2

[Andréa]

Philip wrote: "#419 - Fixed

Working onDone creating the ebook edition that that should have been assigned to.
The Twelve Dates of Christmas: Dates 1 and 2"

Thank you!

[rivka, Former Moderator]

Andréa wrote: "is there a way to prevent the imports/feeds from overwriting legitimate data in the future?"

That sort of import was fixed several months ago, so it doesn't happen any longer. Unfortunately, the fixes are not retroactive.

[Andréa]

rivka wrote: "Andréa wrote: "is there a way to prevent the imports/feeds from overwriting legitimate data in the future?"

That sort of import was fixed several months ago, so it doesn't happen any longer. Unfortunately, the fixes are not retroactive."

I can't see the dates for the import's changes anymore, since Philip fixed the edition, but I'm 99% sure that the import made the changes this month. I only shelved the book on September 2, 2014, at which point in time it had the correct ASIN information. (That's the only way I would have found it, since I search by ASIN and confirm before shelving.) But by today, that information had been overwritten by the import.

[rivka, Former Moderator]

The import changed the ISBN (and thus "hid" the ASIN) on Nov. 19, 2013: https://www.goodreads.com/book/edits/...

Any later edits were due to that problematic one.

[Andréa]

rivka wrote: "The import changed the ISBN (and thus "hid" the ASIN) on Nov. 19, 2013: https://www.goodreads.com/book/edits/...

Any later edits were due to that problematic one."

ah, ok, thank you! Glad to know it won't be happening anymore.

[Lobstergirl]

I think when Amazon has a blank in the number of pages field, that gets imported as ZERO rather than as a blank.

This should be changed so that it gets imported as an empty field rather than zero.

[Andréa]

Lobstergirl wrote: "I think when Amazon has a blank in the number of pages field, that gets imported as ZERO rather than as a blank.

This should be changed so that it gets imported as an empty field rather than zero."

I also frequently see 0 as the number of pages for ebooks. I see it frequently enough that the problem seems likely to be in more import feeds than just the Amazon one. (Or there are a lot of 0-wielding librarians out there.) Some ebooks don't have listed/standard page numbers, but my understanding has always been that the field should then be blank, not 0.

[Lobstergirl]

amazon_kcw should be prevented from importing these shouty titles.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2...

[Banjomike]

amazon_kcw is importing books by God
https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...

[rivka, Former Moderator]

Since Amazon allows books to be listed with that author, I expect that will continue.

[Banjomike]

rivka wrote: "Since Amazon allows books to be listed with that author, I expect that will continue."

But we still want it to be Anonymous?

[rivka, Former Moderator]

Yup.

[Erin *Proud Book Hoarder*]

Well looks like someone had an issue, as it goes to a deleted page now anyway

[Banjomike]

The author was probably combined into Anonymous. That would be the obvious way to handle it.

[Philip]

Another TestASIN. Was not really sure what we are supposed to do with these.

TestAsin_B00LSSNXVQ_Snobs

[rivka, Former Moderator]

Philip, if they are not recent imports (and they should not be), it's fine to just delete them. If they are recent (within the last 30 days or so), then please do report them here.

[Philip]

rivka wrote: "Philip, if they are not recent imports (and they should not be), it's fine to just delete them. If they are recent (within the last 30 days or so), then please do report them here."

Thanks.

[Sophie]

I have to say, whatever is importing Nook books (or whatever starts with a 294- isbn) is doing a terrible job.

[rivka, Former Moderator]

Sophie wrote: "I have to say, whatever is importing Nook books (or whatever starts with a 294- isbn) is doing a terrible job."

Are these recent imports? I don't believe we have a current source for those to be imported.

[Vi ~ Inkvotary]

Dear Librarians,

could you please add this german book incl. it´s cover into goodreads?

Title: Die Flammen flüstern dein Lied
Author: Inge Löhnig
ISBN 978-3-401-06916-6
Pages: 384 Pages
published: September, 10th, 2014
publisher: Arena
genre: Thriller

You`ll find the cover here on amazon Germany:
http://www.amazon.de/Die-Flammen-fl%C...

thanks a lot
best wishes Vi

[Renske]

440 Added https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2...

[Lobstergirl]

I'm seeing a lot of books (RECENT books, like the past few days and weeks) being imported with only ISBN 10, not ISBN 13. Example, note the book is from 2012 so not exactly ancient.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2...

The imports should be doing the work of importing both ISBNs. Librarians shouldn't have to.

And another example, from amazon_kcw:

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2...

[Lobstergirl]

Amazon-kcw not following proper protocol in title capitalization.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2...

Book just imported.

[rivka, Former Moderator]

Imports bring over titles as they exist in the source.

[Elizabeth (Alaska)]

Apparently there is a large import of settings and characters which is auto-populating those fields. If this is correct, it's destroying the database.

[Empress]

Some image uploading and re-iploading from Amazon. If I re-upload the picture myself will that prevent the script from swapping re-uploading the cover?
https://www.goodreads.com/book/edits/...

[rivka, Former Moderator]

Ellie [The Empress] wrote: "If I re-upload the picture myself will that prevent the script from swapping re-uploading the cover?"

It's better to revert the first image change that was post-publication, which I have done.

[Lobstergirl]

amazon_sable updated the book The Human Christ: The Search for the Historical Jesus by Charlotte Allen
title: 'The Human Christ: The Search for the Historical Jesus' to 'The HUMAN CHRIST: THE SEARCH FOR THE HISTORICAL JESUS'

Gee thanks for that. Screaming caps.

[Empress]

I have found a big amount of audiobooks amongst Terry Goodkind's books where after import Onyx has put THE at the end of the title. Example:

onix brilliance updated the book Third Kingdom, The by Terry Goodkind
title: 'The Third Kingdom' to 'Third Kingdom, The'

https://www.goodreads.com/book/edits/...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/edits/...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/edits/...

Can scripts be prevented from doing this "correction" please.

[Philip]

#449 - That would be something to post in the feedback group, it is quite possible that the import script did not do this, but that the import data had an error in it. If the title had been edited by a user since the original import this would never have happened, since imports do not overwrite user data.