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Large Book Data Import
rivka wrote: "No, they are not on the same edition. https://www.goodreads.com/book/edits/...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/edits/..."
Oh, thanks.
The latest amazon_kcw imports have been bringing in bogus authors that are actually subject tags. Not sure if this is something that can be programmed against, but just thought I'd point it out. Here's a pretty craptastical example:https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2...
Most of the time these subject-tag authors are given a role, too, like 'editor' or 'illustrator'. Weird.
Z-squared wrote: "The latest amazon_kcw imports have been bringing in bogus authors that are actually subject tags. Not sure if this is something that can be programmed against, but just thought I'd point it out. ..."I was intrigued that Baby Animals wrote the preface, but not so sure about Bedtime Stories taking the photographs...
This may have been an attempt to gain more prominent search results by including key words in more places, though I'm not sure. Right now we don't have any blacklisted terms for author fields, but it may be worth investigating.
I'm not sure if we'll be able to get someone to work on that right at the moment, though.
Sarah wrote: "This may have been an attempt to gain more prominent search results by including key words in more places, though I'm not sure. Right now we don't have any blacklisted terms for author fields, but it may be worth investigating."That would be very useful. I think when/if you decide to do it you should consider the terms in this comment to be amongst the first banned.
onix smashwords program is changing publishers in the publisher field to "Smashwords Edition"I thought policy was not to identify different editions like this.
Standardization would be to have the publisher field say "Smashwords"
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2...
Is the Amazon import assigning ISBNs to Kindle editions? I noticed something strange here for examplehttps://www.goodreads.com/book/edits/...
The book was added in August by a user, with the ASIN, and then in December amazon_kcw replaced it with the ISBN for the ebook? (if I'm reading it right)
The edit is a bit old so maybe this behavior has been fixed in the meantime
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It was assigning both ISBNs and ASINs, but that was fixed a month or two back.
Just came across this "author" and its "books"...I don't even know what they are supposed to be:https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
A bunch of books have been change from ISBN to ASINs and reverting that is impossible. I am currently suspecting that this might be because of the scripts you are running, but the log shows that the change has been done by a user, which is not true. Here is an example: https://www.goodreads.com/book/edits/...
70021481 shows a change not done by the user. He had changed the language and the ISBN change is added to his log.
Followed by my try to revert. Revert failed, so fixed manually.
Reverted my own change, since I came to the conclusion it might be wrong.
The log for all editions doesn't show a script making changes at that time.
Another failed try to revert to ISBN leads the book to show ISBN and edit page ASIN. Haven't reverted my try to revert yet, so that you can see. I realize my revert my be wrong but there is no way I would know the change hasn't been made by the user
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rivka wrote: "Ellie, please don't revert those. They are from when Kindle editions were accidentally being imported with both ASINs and ISBNs; any edits removed the ISBN and kept the ASIN. Which is what we want ..."Well I couldn't and then I figured I shouldn't! I just left the one edition as an example. Will fix it.
I thought they had run a script to fix those that came in with both ASIN and ISBN to just show the ASIN, however I do keep running across ones that have an ISBN showing on book page for the Kindle edition, but as soon as you open the edit page the ASIN shows up.I have been opening the edit page and saving it again with a note saying was saved to show the ASIN instead of imported ISBN.
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I know we stopped importing ISBNs for Kindle editions. Not sure if a script has been run to fix the ones that had already imported.
Bookworm R wrote: "however I do keep running across ones that have an ISBN showing on book page for the Kindle edition, but as soon as you open the edit page the ASIN shows up."That is what happened when I tried to revert, is it possible someone else tried to revert those editions?
Ellie [The Empress] wrote: "That is what happened when I tried to revert, is it possible someone else tried to revert those editions? ..."I don't know. I have checked ones that I did the save with and they still show the ASIN.
Although I know sometimes things will show as my edit that I don't recall making, so it is hard to say.
I'm not sure if we are still reporting those but amazon is importing publisher as author: https://www.goodreads.com/book/edits/...https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
Hello Everybody, I just came across this thread on the Amazon Book import. I was wondering if this import has just been done on Amazon.com or also other international Amazon databases? I am for example from Germany and still having to add books (and Mangas) into the DB as they are not here. Would love to get some feedback if international import is done or only "local" american import? Thank you :)
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Are author degrees being filtered out? PhD M.D. etc.Because I noticed a book that had just been imported today - without ISBN - where the author's name was all mangled, like Harriet Goldher Ph.D. Lerner or something. I deleted it.
rivka wrote: "This thread is for questions and discussions about the ongoing data imports. To request a book be added to the Goodreads database, please start a new thread."Well and my question is just about that, the data import. So to pose it simpler, are you just importing American books from the American Amazon or also internationally?
Maurice wrote: "Well and my question is just about that, the data import."rivka wrote: "To request a book be added to the Goodreads database, please start a new thread."
The person she is replying to had deleted their post which was just after yours and was a request to add a book to the database.
I can't really reply to your question, but I don't think they are importing from amazon fr, gr, jp, and etc. There are non-English books added to the database but usually the record fit the data at either com or uk. Of course I don't edit as much foreign editions as English ones.
And IMO I'm not sure the librarians could handle such a big import, considering all the problems that come up with it.
This "author" needs to be fixed, it is a publisher.I checked two of the books that appeared and they both came in auto import in April, one from amazon_kcw and the other from ingram-onix. (Not all of these are recent imports, but still needs cleaned up and someway to stop in future).
The titles need help on some as well.
I'm mobile so did not make any changes, just noticed when looking at The Eighth Guardian edition.
Amazon import from 2 days ago: novel by Mary Renault without ISBN.Author = "pseud Mary Renault."
I deleted it.
Maybe filter out "pseud" from author field?
IDK if this quirk has already been noted so just in case...Among other issues, certain amazon_kcw imports have -publisher- or -publisher format- in author field. See, e.g.:
28-Mar-2014 import @ www.goodreads.com/book/show/21796828-...
11-Apr-2014 import @ www.goodreads.com/book/show/21897526-...
#326Have checked them all, one by one.
No matter how weird those titles sounded, 99% of them were correct - apparently they work with those strange abbreviations in these Skyscape editions.
I have filtered out the ones I could find authors of, but what is left, is Skyspace. Whether that's a publisher or not, it seems they got the rights and having checked their website, worldcat, Amazon etc - I couldn't find anything else (when it comes to authors).
While I was at it, I've also added publication dates and covers - if there were any to be found on Amazon, Worldcat or Skyspace.com
Clarisa wrote: "working on 328"My not fixing it was deliberate. Pls don't fix until a GR tech person has a chance to see exactly what the problem is.
#328 both books were duplicated. I requested a super librarian to delete them.
Clarisa wrote: "#328 both books were duplicated. I requested a super librarian to delete them."Yes, I figured that already. But how does that solve the issue of preventing messed up imports in future?
Karma♥Bites ^.~ wrote: "Clarisa wrote: "working on 328"My not fixing it was deliberate. Pls don't fix until a GR tech person has a chance to see exactly what the problem is."
I'm fairly certain that Rivka said earlier in this thread that things can be fixed. Just mentioning it here is enough for them to track.
Bookworm R wrote: "...I'm fairly certain that Rivka said earlier in this thread that things can be fixed. Just mentioning it here is enough for them to track."Yes, but wasn't there also mention re: evaluating some uniform import errors so to create scripts to auto-clean?
#327 Mary Renault was her pen name.. so I guess that's how the 'pseud' sneaked in...
#328That was weird! Never seen any as bad as the first link. Must have been stuck in a blender ;) All fixed now & combined.
For the second link. Although somebody worked on it, the author's name was still incorrect. Changed & combined with the existing editions
Karma♥Bites ^.~ wrote: "Yes, but wasn't there also mention re: evaluating some uniform import errors so to create scripts to auto-clean? ..."Truthfully, hard to say. It seems like this thread has been left to Rivka and the development team has dropped of reporting back in.
I thought the auto-scripts was to correct past errors, but still find the ISBN/ASIN import issue so those may have been fixed for future, but doesn't seem like it went back and fixed old?
I apologize if someone has already posted about this. Amazon kcw has been importing books with the author N/A:https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
The George R.R. Martin book was imported as recently as May 13th. As you can see, there are a LOT of books here. I suspect some (most, even) pre-date the latest large data imports, but some of them are recent.
Amazon is also adding again A LOT of books without ISBN/ASIN information. This edition, had another 4 exact duplicates. As you can see not much info there . Seems imported about ten days ago.
Ran across one of these random "100 Unexpected statements about ..." pubs. Still don't know what they are, besides annoying, but anyway, the weird thing is it was imported by Onix Ingram in March. It was also combined with the book it was about, The Unlikely Pilgrimage of Harold Fry, DESPITE having different primary authors. The edit log doesn't show anyone combining them and/or changing the primary author, so how on earth did it come to be combined with that book? I've left it unseparated for now so y'all can see what i mean:https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...
Ellie [The Empress] wrote: "Amazon is also adding again A LOT of books without ISBN/ASIN information. This edition, had another 4 exact duplicates. As you can see not much info there . Seems imported about ten days ago."
Isn't/shouldn't there be a rule about Not importing an edition, from Any Source, if there is no ISBN or ASIN? In other words, no automatic import Unless there is either an ISBN or ASIN.
I have seen imports with no numbers from sources other than Amazon.
Lobstergirl wrote: "Is there any way that Amazon imports for the description field can be turned off? They're just so awful. Every one of them makes me cry."I know, especially the ones listing the condition of the used book for sale as the synopsis...
Paw3pals wrote: "Isn't/shouldn't there be a rule about Not importing an edition, from Any Source, if there is no ISBN or ASIN? "I think there was such rule created for Amazon. That is why I am pointing it out. But I think the staff is no longer looking in this topic
4 exact editions again, each uploaded some days away from the other! https://www.goodreads.com/book/edits/...Another 3: https://www.goodreads.com/book/edits/...
Please make amazon stop :(
Apart from the fact that this thread seems to have been finally abandoned by GR staff, it seems that onix ingram is now also entitled to "clarify" valid entries (22 April 2014):https://www.goodreads.com/book/edits/...
I like the reset to "Unknown Binding" best.
I undid everything. This is an ideal pastime for masochists...
Ellie [The Empress] wrote: "Amazon is also adding again A LOT of books without ISBN/ASIN information. This edition, had another 4 exact duplicates. As you can see not much info there . Seems imported about ten days ago."
After I deleted all BUT ONE of those duplicates I noticed amazon created ANOTHER copy two days ago!
I send an e-mail as no one is paying attention to this topic.
Michael wrote: "I like the reset to "Unknown Binding" best."
Frustrating right?
Amazon imported 3 eds. of "Uglies" with author: "Scot Westrrfld." (Correct spelling of course is Scott Westerfeld.) 2 of those lacked ISBN. All within the past 2 weeks.
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