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What Else Are You Reading - September 2013


Just started Odd and the Frost Giants. Finished Instructions. On a Neil Gaiman YA, and childrens roll.

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I haven't read that one yet why did you hate it?
Did you like the first two?"
I don't want to spoil it for you if you are planning on reading it. It was meandering and extremely frustrating for me plotwise.
I loved the first one and was back and forth on the second but came to like it.

Now I'm moving on to: Daughter of Smoke & Bone und Red Seas Under Red Skies

Kristen wrote: "I just finished The Demolished Man, and am currently reading Red Seas Under Red Skies"
Me too. I know a few others are as well. It started slow for my liking, but really picking up finally.
Me too. I know a few others are as well. It started slow for my liking, but really picking up finally.

My review http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/...
Continuing on with Dresden also on Audible with Small Favor



I'm enjoying it thus far. (view spoiler)
Haven't read The Twelve yet, will be interested in hearing your thoughts.


Here's my review.
I'm not exactly sure where to turn next. I need something fun, light, and fast. I'm reading too many "heavies" at present.
AndrewP wrote: "Working on Red Seas Under Red Skies as my main read, Post Captain as my commute audio book and Cat's Cradle on my kindle app. My part time, 10 minute read, is When Will Jesus Bring the Pork Chops?."
Lol. Another one. Everyone is getting ready for The Republic of Thieves
Lol. Another one. Everyone is getting ready for The Republic of Thieves
Casey wrote: "Just finished In Enemy Hands.
Here's my review.
I'm not exactly sure where to turn next. I need something fun, light, and fast. I'm reading too many "heavies" at present."
Depending on how much you mind tropes, I found
Theft of Swords fits that pretty well.
Here's my review.
I'm not exactly sure where to turn next. I need something fun, light, and fast. I'm reading too many "heavies" at present."
Depending on how much you mind tropes, I found
Theft of Swords fits that pretty well.

Here's my review.
I'm not exactly sure where to turn next. I need something fun, light, and fast. I'm reading too many "heavies" at present."
Dependi..."
Agreed. Not exactly breaking new ground but entertaining (to me at least).


Here's my review.
I'm not exactly sure where to turn next. I need something fun, light, and fast. I'm reading too many "heavies" at present."
I applaud your tenacity in getting through an audio version of a David Weber novel. I really like his stories, but would only approach them in text because I need to be able to skim or skip the infodumps and get on with the story.
Incidentally, IMHO, the next book after In Enemy Hands, Echoes of Honor, is one of the best in the Honor Harrington series. The following is a spoiler only for those who haven't read In Enemy Hands. (view spoiler)

Casey wrote: "I'm looking forward to hitting the next Honor book in the series. I'm reviewing it for www.sffaudio.com and so it will also be an audio version. "
Oh good. Someone decided to take the plunge on those! I was a bit overwhelmed to volunteer for them.
Oh good. Someone decided to take the plunge on those! I was a bit overwhelmed to volunteer for them.

Just a coincidence in my case. It's taken me until now to find a copy of Red Seas in a bargain store. It will probably be another year or two before Republic of Thieves shows up. Unless it's really bad, then it will be in the bargain bin by Christmas.
I like Weber too but if all the details were skipped I don't think they would be so interesting or enjoyable. Remove the infodumps and you would be left with something like 'Down Below Station'.

@AndrewP: Maybe so, maybe no. I tend to believe that if Weber cut away the info-dumps, we'd have something more similar to the Lost Fleet series in way of story presentation. But then again there's an adage about pulling threads.

Now a quick read: The Alloy of Law before Steelheart next week."
I completely understand what you mean about Assassin's Quest. I couldn't stand to read it anymore (I couldn't will myself to turn the pages), so I listened to the audiobook while doing brainless tasks at work. I feel that a huge chunk of that book could have been edited out without losing any of the plot.
I think a lot of my frustration with this book was that it was so much longer than the first book in the series. A pet peeve of mine is when the length of books in a series increase over time. A 50 page increase or so is okay; however, more than doubling the page count is not cool. I know it probably seems weird but if the first book or two is 300 pages, I expect the rest of the series to follow that same format.
Completely unrelated, because this month's book pick was short, I have been on a reading binge!. Granted, several of them were books that I won through GoodReads giveaways or were galley copies that I agreed to review. I read Fool Moon, Helen and Troy's Epic Road Quest, Club Dead, My Planet: Finding Humor in the Oddest Places, One Enchanted Evening: A Fairy Tale for Real People, and The Republic of Thieves. It has been a busy month! My Republic of Thieves review will be posted on the 24th. In the mean time, I must recommend Helen and Troy's Epic Road Quest, it was so much fun.


Now a quick read: The Alloy of Law before Steelheart next week."
I completely understand wha..."
Exactly! That's what frustrated me so much. Half of that book could have been edited out. I only kept going to complete the trilogy.

To chime in on the Honor Harrington thread discussion, I think the infodumps are necessary because the plot development from book-to-book often relies on technological improvements so without the info, it would look like a deus ex machina. Unrelated, I like Weber for being a Mil-SF author with strong female characters - plural (not just a few tokens but throughout the series) and for writing enemies that sometimes are noble people with good motives. That said, after reading all of them through At All Costs, I just burned out on the series. Is it worth picking up again?

You might want to try Weber's Safehold series, especially if you are into 'Age of Sail' type books.

You might want to try Weber's Safehold series, especially..."
Thanks, I've read a couple of those as well. Does it bother you that (view spoiler) ?


I didn't get through it for that reason, although I don't think I read Gaiman's or GRRM's stories. The one huge exception was Kage Baker's "The Green Bird." Still not enough to raise the SNR of the collection of a whole past threshold, but I was sort of amazed at how she could write in a voice that was clearly Vance-inflected yet also clearly her own. (Versus most of the other authors, who were obviously trying but couldn't seem to write naturally or well in Vancian diction.)
Me, I'm reading Dust of Dreams, Team of Rivals: The Political Genius of Abraham Lincoln, and Talking About Detective Fiction. Which makes my reading list look more diverse than it actually is. On deck are Alif the Unseen, Railsea, and maybe Brave Story. (That's a more typical lineup.)

Now I have a few books to try that were on the Booker longlist but didn't make it to the shortlist, but I feel bad for them so I'm going to try anyway.
And then I'm going to start The Anubis Gates because I've never read anything by Tim Powers (if you have, did I pick the right book to try?)

I haven't read Anubis Gates but On Stranger Tides is wonderful and is the favorite book of someone I know who's a big Tim Powers fan.

I got Kinslayer- The Lotus War Book 2 By Jay Kristoff Just Started But enjoying that
Finally Got Started On Jim Butcher's Codex Alera Series
Managed to start Paul Cornell's London Falling. I love Cornell but I'm struggling a bit with it...sort of feel Like I'm hearing one side of a conversation but I'm only 1/4 way in.
Re-reading Dick's Do Androids Dream Of Elecric Sheep because it's been awhile.
Struggling a bit with the short - Book of Ptath by A E Van Vogt
Reading A A Milne's Pooh Books...because I want too...and the Hundred acre wood is my happy place.

My review http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/...
Continuing on with Peter F Hamilton's Void Trilogy with The Temporal Void

Also read the Daemon books (DaemonFreedom (TM)) by Daniel Suarez. A nice action packed read.
Today I finished Kafka on the Shore a typical Haruki Murakami story.


I finished Red Seas Under Red Skies. Slow start, but in the end I enjoyed it (My Review).
Next I'm starting Reaper's Gale with Malazan Fallen
and Steelheart with The Not A Book Club Club
Next I'm starting Reaper's Gale with Malazan Fallen
and Steelheart with The Not A Book Club Club

Hi Jenny, I'm reading Anubis Gates right now (about 1/3 complete) and so far I quite enjoy it. My only complaint regarding the novel is that some of transitions (especially the transitions that involve a change in POV character) can be a little confusing....I can read a paragraph or two before I realize that POV character has changed.
The Anubis Gates is the second Tim Powers novel I've read. The other novel I read was Declare (think Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy with djinn) which I also very much enjoyed. I will for sure be reading more his stuff.


You don't stay in the modern time period for very long. I would say of the 150 pages I've read, most of the action takes palce in/around 1810.

As mentioned in my above comments to Jenny, I'm also reading The Anubis Gates. I would love if S&L picked a Tim Powers novel for a future read.
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