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message 751: by Ken, Moderator (new)

Ken | 18714 comments Mod
Cynical and curmudgeoness? Label those words under the category Synonymous Hippopotamus.


message 752: by Debbie, sardonic princess of cheerfulness (new)

Debbie (sardonicprincessofcheerfulness) | 6389 comments Mod
Hahahahahahahaha!!! You slay me!


message 753: by Boreal Elizabeth (last edited Aug 29, 2008 07:37PM) (new)

Boreal Elizabeth | 401 comments noctivagate
is that a real word?
off to look it up

seems to be and is used by one of my favorite authors in one of my all time favorite books

http://books.google.com/books?id=PTol...


message 754: by Peter (new)

Peter Pier | 45 comments Hm... couldn´t find it either in my Webster´s nor Oxford´s. Strange. What shall it imply? Rambling in the dark, "navigating" in the dark? No clue.

Anyway, how about a ->

"Nocturnal Predator" ?? WORD!

As my last name is Pier, I feel a little like a vampier, vampire sorry.
That´s another one, actually. I have absolutely no clue where that name stems from, "Pier". Can of course be the actual pier at the beach, but I don´t think so. From French... I´d have a double-name, Pièrre Pièrre. Or it´s the pièrre in a creek, a little pebble- I guess I like that best. But please feel free to enlighten me ;-)

Best,
TheLurkingFear


message 755: by David (new)

David | 4568 comments To wander abroad at night.

Keep that garlic on your nightstand and the cross under your pillow.


message 756: by Peter (new)

Peter Pier | 45 comments Hehe, David,
per denomination mentioned in my passport, Roman Catholic, any actual vampire would have a hard time crossing my doorstep. Plus, I just love garlic...
Nevertheless- I like "good" vampire-tales. I´m pretty sure you know King´s "Jerusalem´s Lot". That IS a good one.
Sir, you didn´t offer any explanation for my name, Sir ;-)

Pjotr, Pietro, Pedro, Petrr, and so on- Peter

TheLurkingFear


message 757: by Summer (new)

Summer | 87 comments My word of yesterday was desultory. The books I read were written by someone who clearly favored it. I was getting a little weary of reading it by the third time. I wonder why the editor didn't rein him in?


message 758: by Tyler (new)

Tyler  (tyler-d) | 268 comments I love the word "desultory" because it expresses a meaning for which no other word adequately substitutes. People sometimes have had to rein in my use of that word, so your author isn't the only offender.


message 759: by Summer (new)

Summer | 87 comments It is very precise, true, but in the context of the books meandering or disorganized could have replaced two of the instances without losing any meaning and thereby avoiding the resulting déjà vu. Overuse aggravates me only slightly less than misuse. It is my own flaw, without doubt.


message 760: by David (new)

David | 4568 comments New word of the day, from the always-interesting Pat Buchanan: "Where Obama has poodled along with the Daley Machine, Palin routed the Republican establishment."

We already have Tony Blair as "George Bush's poodle" to his detractors, but "poodle along" is a new one on me. It's an unfair slam on poodles, who were in fact bred to assist hunters in water, but a fine coinage natheless.

As for desultory, Simon and Garfunkel used it as a song title in "A Simple Desultory Philipic." OK, for the classically challenged, a "philippic" is a denunciatory speech, from those given by Demosthenes of Athens against Philip of Macedon. Demosthenese gave great speeches; Philip won the war, just as the Spanish Loyalists had the good songs, but Franco won the war.

Enough for one morning.


message 761: by Tyler (new)

Tyler  (tyler-d) | 268 comments Summer --

Overuse aggravates me only slightly less than misuse. It is my own flaw, without doubt.

Yes, and overusing an unusual work makes it even more obvious. I've seen this occasionally in books.



David --

Speak of the devil, I encountered anodyne for the first time last night in something I was reading. That was a timely WFTD.


message 762: by Ken, Moderator (new)

Ken | 18714 comments Mod
And I encountered (both) Simon & Garfunkel yesterday. The coincidences keep on coming...


message 763: by David (new)

David | 4568 comments Pick one:

__aleatory

__overdetermined

__serendipitous

__preordained


message 764: by Tyler (new)

Tyler  (tyler-d) | 268 comments Overdetermined -- by far the best.


message 765: by Boreal Elizabeth (last edited Sep 03, 2008 06:53PM) (new)

Boreal Elizabeth | 401 comments huh? how can one be over determined
you're either determined or complacent
focused or fuzzy
there is no over!!!
you l&gers are freakin me out




message 766: by Debbie, sardonic princess of cheerfulness (new)

Debbie (sardonicprincessofcheerfulness) | 6389 comments Mod
Over determined means a shade TOO determined.....and moe, you are an L&Ger too!!!


message 767: by Tyler (new)

Tyler  (tyler-d) | 268 comments Overdetermination means that multiple factors (as opposed to one or two) comprise a state. Human consciousness might be thought of as overdetermined if one rejects easy explanations of a person's psyche. That is, a man's state of mind is not reducible to his oedipus complex, to his narcissism, to his unconscious drive or whatever. Rather, it's made up of the innumerable events that have affected it.


message 768: by Boreal Elizabeth (last edited Sep 03, 2008 08:53PM) (new)

Boreal Elizabeth | 401 comments nope
there is no over
over determined is obsessed
let's keep our words in neat little categories please
i don't so much mind the grosser defects
the broad snafus
but when you start messing with the subtle shades of meaning
the finer distinctions
i just can't countenance the deviation
the insult and injury
please leave my connotations intact
leave those subtle leanings subtle
lest we lose something
lose it in the free for all for all time

(and yes-i am an l&ger and content in the association)


message 769: by Boreal Elizabeth (new)

Boreal Elizabeth | 401 comments well psychology hijacked ransomed and usurped all sorts of language
if we are going to offer up our innocent and fragile words to the scientific definition
we'll allow all sorts of perversion




message 770: by Debbie, sardonic princess of cheerfulness (new)

Debbie (sardonicprincessofcheerfulness) | 6389 comments Mod
I agree moe! Let psychology find another term (or invent it's own).


message 771: by Boreal Elizabeth (last edited Sep 03, 2008 08:55PM) (new)

Boreal Elizabeth | 401 comments hear hear
we're a concensus of two deb ;)

(or is it here here?)


message 772: by Boreal Elizabeth (new)

Boreal Elizabeth | 401 comments ok
it's a real grown up word
but it still sounds borrowed and stupid

if something is overdetermined it's a moot point to me-still does not require that much thought

maybe overdetermination feels good for saying it's an easy or relatively easy math computation because a bunch of stuff is already figured out or for saying as tyler suggests that there are determinations of psychology that supercede the cliched or simple explanation of personality

my primary impetus for responding was to vouchsafe my disdain and dislike for the clabbered together term to explain something that doesn't really need so much explaining

as if the word itself is reaching for some overdetermination or seeking more respectability than the situation warrants

math/science is awash with these sorts of bastardized terms

altho i am fond of "sensitive dependence upon initial conditions"

(correct me if i'm in error)





message 773: by Boreal Elizabeth (new)

Boreal Elizabeth | 401 comments oh and periodicity
i love periodicity


message 774: by Boreal Elizabeth (new)

Boreal Elizabeth | 401 comments yes another good un
did you know without periodicity it's tough to reach the state of equilibrium?

stasis

it's so calm and complete, sated even stable

i think i'll go now and try for fake stasis as in sleep

bon mots mes amies

und gut nacht


message 775: by David (new)

David | 4568 comments More pendulous words:

amplitude

oscillation

Coriolis


message 776: by Stamatia (new)

Stamatia | 268 comments Aurora Borealis doesn't it sound fantastic?


message 777: by Boreal Elizabeth (new)

Boreal Elizabeth | 401 comments it is
one time
it was orange and yellow
and resembled flames flickering across the sky
another memorable time it glowed lime green on the horizon with a large ray cast up into the sky towards the north star
spectacular


message 778: by Stamatia (new)

Stamatia | 268 comments Now, I'm green with envy. This is probably sight I'll never get to experience


message 779: by Boreal Elizabeth (new)

Boreal Elizabeth | 401 comments why?
just take a trip north of the 45th parallel and you stand a chance of seeing it
actually there are trips that go northern lights hunting
i saw them in Maine
and i'm sure they are seen in the scandinavian countries


message 780: by Debbie, sardonic princess of cheerfulness (new)

Debbie (sardonicprincessofcheerfulness) | 6389 comments Mod
I have never seen them either moe (the southern lights (Aurora australis)....a sight I shall probably never see either....I know how you feel Stamatia.


message 781: by Boreal Elizabeth (new)

Boreal Elizabeth | 401 comments take a plane
take a train
go north
go north

now i heard that southern cross is something as well


message 782: by Stamatia (new)

Stamatia | 268 comments Unfortunately a trip to the extreme North or South is not in my foreseeable future. We do have some pretty amazing skies on clear nights over the Aegean. One of the best memories I have is when my daughter pointed Orion to me and told me about the hunter and his dogs and how he goes after Scorpio every night after she visited the Planetarium


message 783: by Boreal Elizabeth (new)

Boreal Elizabeth | 401 comments starry aegean nights?
hmm
sounds boring NOT


message 784: by David (new)

David | 4568 comments Try "Elijah Rock."


message 785: by David (new)

David | 4568 comments Never mind the last comment. Posted to the wrong site.


message 786: by Boreal Elizabeth (new)

Boreal Elizabeth | 401 comments sounds fascinating tho
what is it?
christian rock and roll?
a prophetic stone?
old testament landmark?



message 787: by Ken, Moderator (new)

Ken | 18714 comments Mod
It's on the other side of Plymouth, where the Pilgrims dumped their upstarts.


message 788: by Boreal Elizabeth (new)

Boreal Elizabeth | 401 comments :) teehee


message 789: by Boreal Elizabeth (new)

Boreal Elizabeth | 401 comments crampon
cause it sounds energetic
and useful
and bracing
and i'm lying on the couch
having just had a wee bowl of ice cream
typing with the laptop on my outstretched lap
thinkin
i really
should get up
and do something energetic
that involves
crampons
or mountaineering
or some sort of gear
but really want nothing more
than to maybe
nap


message 790: by David (new)

David | 4568 comments "Elijah Rock" is a spiritual, arranged for chorus.

Lyrics here.


message 791: by Debbie, sardonic princess of cheerfulness (new)

Debbie (sardonicprincessofcheerfulness) | 6389 comments Mod
Is there something in the fact that the guy who wrote the lyrics is called Jester?!
I think I liked NE's explanation better.


message 792: by Summer (new)

Summer | 87 comments Equidistant - I didn't have to look it up, but how did I escape knowing it before?


message 793: by Boreal Elizabeth (new)

Boreal Elizabeth | 401 comments equidistant is kinda cool


message 794: by Savvy (new)

Savvy  (savvysuzdolcefarniente) | 1458 comments cosmopolite \koz-MOP-uh-lyt\, noun:

1. One who is at home in every place; a citizen of the world; a cosmopolitan person.
2. (Ecology) An organism found in most parts of the world.

I like the global reach of this word.
We need more cosmopolites!


message 795: by David (new)

David | 4568 comments Perhaps, but aren't cosmopolites supposed to be:

"deracinated."


message 796: by Boreal Elizabeth (new)

Boreal Elizabeth | 401 comments pulled up by their roots?

but why?

invasive species?


message 797: by David (last edited Sep 10, 2008 08:19AM) (new)

David | 4568 comments Ye gods and little fishes. Not only is [was--now deleted] the code wrong, but the link is [was} broken. (Why doesn't Goodreads have a preview function? Or let you delete a pots [post]?)

Lost In Translation.


message 798: by David (new)

David | 4568 comments OK, at last it worked.

Word for today: "imbroglio."

Compare "foofaraw," "brouhaha," and "donnybrook."

Hurl brickbats among yourselves. While I'm at it, what's a "brickbat," anyway?


message 799: by Ruth (new)

Ruth | 16546 comments Mod
Dear David, I haven't heard anyone say ye gods and little fishes since my mom died.

And you can delete a "pots" by going to the edit function.


message 800: by David (last edited Sep 10, 2008 08:19AM) (new)

David | 4568 comments Ruth, thanks for that.

"Ye gods and little fishes" would be a good start for a patter song . . . hmm.

Ye gods and little fishes
You kids never do the dishes
And your laundry's in a mountain on the floor.

It seems you're always texting
And I worry that you're sexing
And when you leave you always seem to slam the door . . .


Yes, I live with teenagers (whom I love dearly).


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