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What Obscure but Beloved Book from Your Childhood Have You Spent a Good Part of Your Adult Life Trying to Find Again?




The Lonely Doll by Dare Wright is apparently a whole series. I'd love to see these someday.
The Spider Plant by Yetta Speevack for the link to Chris's book (but I don't think I can take credit, I identify very few books for ppl).
Andrew Henry's Meadow by Doris Burn is one I've never heard of before... but I love the title, and will have to investigate!
The Spider Plant by Yetta Speevack for the link to Chris's book (but I don't think I can take credit, I identify very few books for ppl).
Andrew Henry's Meadow by Doris Burn is one I've never heard of before... but I love the title, and will have to investigate!



Chris wrote: "I received Put Me in the Zoo along with Dr. Seuss books for beginning readers back in the early 60s. I haven't seen any copies anywhere since."
Hm. There are 14 editions listed here, including Kindle and a board book, and 8 copies in my library system, and it's still in print, and used copies are going for 1 cent plus postage... :shrug:
Hm. There are 14 editions listed here, including Kindle and a board book, and 8 copies in my library system, and it's still in print, and used copies are going for 1 cent plus postage... :shrug:

The first is not just about a book but about a certain read-aloud of it. I actually heard it read on public radio, it was read in the morning, probably five minutes every day, and I was about 3 1/2 or 4 years old. The story was Mio, My Son by Astrid Lindgren. Captivated by the reading, in my head I always imagined the man who read the book to be the King, Mio's real father in the story. Since I never had the book itself in hand and could therefore not go by that I was probably 10-11 by the time I identified the story and located the book to read it again.
But, the reader of this "audio version" really stayed with me, in fact his voice still resonates in my head to this day. So much, that when I was in my 20s, one time at a party I heard a voice that sent shivers to my spine. Curious about the voice I went to find the guy it belonged to and ended up talking with him for a long time that night, only to find out in due time that his father (the same voice, you see) had translated Mio, My Son into my language and read it on public radio (before its publication). One day I was invited to his father's house, and when his father (who'd read me Mio twenty years earlier) came to greet me, his voice made my knees so limp I almost collapsed.



Mrs. Piggle-Wiggle has a whole series. I often find them in thrift stores. They're cute.
I love the Cranberryport stories (and recipes) by the Devlins; I'll have to wishlist Old Black Witch! (Wende Devlin). Def. obscure.
I love Astrid Lindgren picture books and short readers, such as Lotta's Bike and The Children of Noisy Village. In the US, these are definitely obscure... despite the popularity of Pippi Longstocking. I will have to put Mio, My Son on my wishlist.
I love the Cranberryport stories (and recipes) by the Devlins; I'll have to wishlist Old Black Witch! (Wende Devlin). Def. obscure.
I love Astrid Lindgren picture books and short readers, such as Lotta's Bike and The Children of Noisy Village. In the US, these are definitely obscure... despite the popularity of Pippi Longstocking. I will have to put Mio, My Son on my wishlist.
Cheryl, one book I have always loved by Astrid Lindgren is Seacrow Island (about an artist and his family and their adventures and misadventures on a Swedish island). However, I have only ever read it in German translation, Ferien auf Saltkrokan, so I have no idea what the English translation is like (and translations can be a problem with Astrid Lindgren, in Mischievous Meg, which is the American translation of Madicken, there are not only some rather major changes, an entire chapter has basically been left out because I guess the publisher and translator did not think it appropriate for little girls to curse and get into physical confrontations). And even the Noisy Village series has some rather problematic deletions in the American translations (a lot of the cultural information has not been translated and the scene where one of the boys is sitting naked on a rock pretending to be a water sprite has also been deemed inappropriate, nudity is not automatically pornography, sigh).

Since the last time I read her I was about 11-12, I can't vouch for how to stand up to adult reading. But I really fantasized about living in an upside-down house like hers, and I thought about how I would lay it out, where I would place the furniture or what the kitchen would look like. I was also really impressed with all the magical remedies she came up with, although there is a moralizing side to it as she would have fixes for kids' bad habits. So, not too much like Pippi who indulged in the bad habits for sure!

Mio, My Son is a fantasy in the same spirit as The Brothers Lionheart, but I think it was intended for the youngest readers, i.e. the kids that are reading for instance The Children of Noisy Village. So, it is simpler, and more naive. I noticed this even when I reread it in my tweens and I initially concluded that it probably didn't hold up as well as the Lionheart Brothers, but now I think it just differs because it was meant for really young children. And thankfully thus it has none of the absolute heartbreak of The Brothers Lionheart that I don't think my son would be ready for yet, as much as I love that book.

I never read the Seacrow Island books (we didn't have them), but we had the series on TV, and I can only describe those as amazingly healthy, happy, feel-good, and that Malin was just too cute. They so conveyed the magic and insouciance of a summer in the Stockholm archipelago (where I'm assuming they take place). Makes me want to go there and be a kid forever.
Fjóla wrote: "Gundula wrote: "Cheryl, one book I have always loved by Astrid Lindgren is Seacrow Island (about an artist and his family and their adventures and misadventures on a Swedish island)...."
I have not seen the series, but I love Malin in the book!! She really does have to put up with a lot from both her father and her brothers (and she is basically at age 19 the head of the household and much more responsible than Melchior, her father, can ever be).
I have not seen the series, but I love Malin in the book!! She really does have to put up with a lot from both her father and her brothers (and she is basically at age 19 the head of the household and much more responsible than Melchior, her father, can ever be).

Did someone says Mrs. Piggle-Wiggle? Oh, I loved those books! I remember one in which Mrs. Piggle-Wiggle made a kid grow some kind of vegetables under his or her fingernails to teach them to keep their nails clean. Was it radishes?


I think so, but I don't recall that being the title.
The comments indicate that people think it's a weird book. I don't remember much about it. I think I just liked the sound of the words.

I think so, but I don't recall that being the title.
The comments indicate that people think it's a weird book. I don'..."
Mister Dog was a Little Golden Book by Margaret Wise Brown -- so no wonder you remember the language! Illustrations by Garth Williams. It's included in one of their collections you can still buy, Animal Tales:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0375...
Both of my children love it. I think because Mister Dog is so self-sufficient, and then the boy joins him and fits right into his routine. And, like you said, the language.

I think so, but I don't recall that being the title.
The comments indicate that people think it's a weir..."
Thanks, Robin! Now I must really check the book out again. :)
Beth Sniffs Books wrote: "Gundula wrote: "Cheryl, one book I have always loved by Astrid Lindgren is Seacrow Island (about an artist and his family and their adventures and misadventures on a Swedish island)...."
So that might mean that the original translation was lacking. I wish I could read Swedish so that I could read Astrid Lindgren and many other superb Swedish children's authors in the original.
So that might mean that the original translation was lacking. I wish I could read Swedish so that I could read Astrid Lindgren and many other superb Swedish children's authors in the original.
Beth Sniffs Books wrote: "Yes, I just edited my post to include that the note on the title page says that Ramsden is translating from Swedish.
I often wonder what subtleties or nuances I miss out on in a translated work."
so do I, always ...
I often wonder what subtleties or nuances I miss out on in a translated work."
so do I, always ...

I vaguely remember reading, and liking, the first book by Gene Stratton-Porter, Freckles. They are free on Project Gutenberg - I'll have to read both of them soonish.

Did someone says Mrs. Piggle-Wiggle? Oh,..."
Hi! Coming late to this but yes, it was radishes! I think it was on a boy's arm, tho' bec he wouldn't bathe.
The books are available from Amazon.
One book that I wish I could find is by Elisabeth Kyle.
I've found a few of her books but this particular one, about a boy in Edinburgh, is out of my reach. One illustration, of the boy in his Scottish cap eating a TOMATO as though it was an apple, made me think, "Eiuw!" but over 50 years later, I still remember it. Wish I could find it again.

Elisabeth Kyle does have a lot of books. I love eating tomatoes in hand, had no idea it's not a common thing.

She gives a luscious description of how juicy the tomato was and how it dripped down his hand. I have a number of her books, but without the title, I've been lost. Every time I see one of hers, I frantically page through to see if that illustration is there. Maybe I should join the "Find This Book" group on Goodreads :-)
Do so. Who knows, maybe you'll be able to help another seeker. And if you're sure of the author, you're quite likely to get your mystery solved.

Any help would be appreciated.

..." like wall-e but just before they leave earth. There are these dogs or moose and they live in this field then people come along and build on it and throw their rubbish anywhere and then when there is nothing green left they all get on spaceships and fly off and the moose or dog is left behind but on the last page you see this flower or something growing and you know its going to be ok. It was written in the sixties or seventies I've been trying to tell my kids about it but they reckoned i dreamed it because no-one was fussed about pollution then"
I didn't have the heart to tell him that library's rarely stock children's books from the 80's or earlier unless the author was uber famous like dr. sues.
I really didn't expect to find it but i thought id google anti pollution books in 60/70's and there it was Wump World.
I've been trying to get a hold of the german & french equivalents of "see jane run" my daughter is a polyglot and wants to learnt to read in her many languages but her fathers french books are adult philosiphy (Dante and that guy who does existential stuf) while i do have kids books in german she is no where near ready for "kleine eis bar". Does anyone know where and what sort of titles i should be googleing?
We most certainly were worried about pollution etc back then!! Silent Spring was published in 1962! :)
So, you're looking for primers (btw, for the longest time I didn't know this is pronounced 'primmers') in German and French? I don't know offhand, but when Gundula (an active member, currently at an overseas conference) gets back she can probably let us know about some. Interesting query....
So, you're looking for primers (btw, for the longest time I didn't know this is pronounced 'primmers') in German and French? I don't know offhand, but when Gundula (an active member, currently at an overseas conference) gets back she can probably let us know about some. Interesting query....
Looks like there's current interest by scholars in that field:
https://networks.h-net.org/node/7842/...
CFP: "After the War, A New Beginning? A Comparative Examination of Reading Primers Published and Used in 1945 in Europe" (Germany) WORKSHOP, Nov. 2015
https://networks.h-net.org/node/7842/...
CFP: "After the War, A New Beginning? A Comparative Examination of Reading Primers Published and Used in 1945 in Europe" (Germany) WORKSHOP, Nov. 2015

Elspeth wrote: "I was recently asked by a friend of a friend (who heard i volunteered at the library) if i knew the title of a book and proceeded to describe it thus
..." like wall-e but just before they leave ear..."
When we were little, we had a Richard Scarry Book that was a multi language picture dictionary (English, French, German, I think). I do not remember the title, but I do remember that it really helped us with learning both English and French when we immigrated from Germany to Canada in the 70s. You should perhaps check Richard Scarry books both on Amazon and on second hand book sites such as ABE Books; I wish I remembered the title, but I do remember that it was by Richard Scarry.
..." like wall-e but just before they leave ear..."
When we were little, we had a Richard Scarry Book that was a multi language picture dictionary (English, French, German, I think). I do not remember the title, but I do remember that it really helped us with learning both English and French when we immigrated from Germany to Canada in the 70s. You should perhaps check Richard Scarry books both on Amazon and on second hand book sites such as ABE Books; I wish I remembered the title, but I do remember that it was by Richard Scarry.

Dana--this was the first book I read alone. It's by Helen Palmer & P.D. Eastman You can find it on Amazon. I still repeat, "or something may happen, you never know what."


I came across it in primary school. At 9 I had read all the books in our tiny school library so started on a thesaurus. When our reading aptitude test came round I had a reading age score of a 20 year old! My mum was very proud and the school sent out an appeal for "difficult" books for me and another boy in a similar position. We were inundated with books many of which were rejected as Shaun and I read them for containing inappropriate content (largely smut that went straight over our heads at the time). This book sadly also went out the window because it glorified hunting.
It starts with two spoilt brats whose father nips out to India for a hunting trip, they insist they shan't love him unless he brings back a baby elephant. When daddy comes home he brings with him various bits of dead animal including an elephants foot. Needless to say the brats aren't grateful and wont listen to reason. The foot gets used as a umbrella stand I think. Until one rainy day the brats complain once to often about the ugly foot and they hear the trumpeting of an elephant. Sure enough the 3 legged ghost of the baby elephant came charging at them rolls them down the stairs and the children and the foot vanish. (or possibly the foot vanishes and the children are left paralysed... not sure there.)
Oh that's a terrific story! In the hands of one of our more avant-garde moderen picturebook creators, it could be a hit right now. Possibly somebody like Lane Smith or Laura Vaccaro Seeger.
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I spent twenty-five years looking for my sweetheart's favorite childhood book. He loved a book called Cowboy Andy. I finally found it for him two years ago, and gave it to him for Christmas. His eyes filled with tears at the memories, and he couldn't believe that I had looked (on and off) throughout our marriage. This may have been my favorite gift I've ever given!