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Carlita Costello | 1219 comments Hmmm. Good points, Josh. I assume anyone following my reviews knows where I'm coming from because I've been doing it for sometime. The reviews are personal because that's what I bring to the table — me — and that is why I say I'm a reactor and a fairly consistent one. The numerical grading system is what it is, but it may be better to write recommended or highly recommended because it is confusing at times to read a book was the best and to see a four. When I write three, I mean it's good, not great. I don't give that kind of review to books on Amazon or Goodreads because a three has been turned into, "it's not good." I don't leave reviews in either place unless the book is outstanding and I have not left as many as I should have for books I love because of lack of personal time these days. I agree that reviewing does not mean what it once did.
To be honest, I'm considering not writing them anymore, except for me when I adore a book.


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Josh (joshlanyon) | 23709 comments Mod
Susinok wrote: "you are still the Mystery Man. ..."

Please. The Mystery MARTINI GLASS. ;-D


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Josh (joshlanyon) | 23709 comments Mod
Carlita wrote: "Hmmm. Good points, Josh. I assume anyone following my reviews knows where I'm coming from because I've been doing it for sometime. The reviews are personal because that's what I bring to the table ..."

It's all relative. When I used to get a "C" in algebra, I was over the moon. But a "C" in any kind of English class would have had me reaching for a razor blade. :-D


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Susinok | 5205 comments I don't know much about mystery writers, though I did read Agatha Christie's autobiography.

The science fiction community are a bunch of gossiping hens, so even 30 years ago you heard what folks (authors) were up to. I wasn't totally reading in a vacuum.

At first when I was online I avoided following or seeking out authors. Some were jerks and that sort of scared me off for a while. Now I'm sort of used to the contact but I'm still a bit in awe that I can communicate with just about anyone.

When I followed George Takei on FB and William Shatner on Twitter a while back it was a "wow" moment for me. Star Trek was part of my childhood, a time with really no social networking besides face-to-face.

John Cleese's tweets are hilarious, as are the rest of the crew from Monty Python, as you'd expect. Even HRH Prince Charles tweets once in a blue moon. He's very droll.


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Na | 354 comments I've stopped rating and I don't review. Perhaps it is only temporary. Along the weeks I've questioned my integrity in those. My taste evolves. Some ratings became obsolete, others might have been influenced by interacting here. It's unavoidable. Even if I am just a grain of sand, it bothers me not being able to be fair. At the moment I don't want to grade, or review, but I like analysing, learning and talking about books.


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Josh (joshlanyon) | 23709 comments Mod
Na wrote: "but I like analysing, learning and talking about books.
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That's the only useful part anyway.

We are a grade/score oriented culture. But the grade is not the important part of any course. It is what you learned. What you take away from your studies.

I see people rushing through books in order to rate and review. That is just...not what the reading experience should be.


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Anne | 6816 comments Josh wrote: "Anne wrote: "Lou wrote: "As an introvert and a private person I share only so much of myself on social media. I have the constant nagging notion I should be more outgoing, promote myself more--and ..."

It's depressing if you're right. And perhaps you are. I still wish to hold on to the belief that quality shines through in the end. But there will be some who manage to fool so many that they actually do make a living of it to the detriment of the good ones who don't. A sad state of affairs for sure.


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Carlita Costello | 1219 comments Josh wrote: It's all relative...

True. And, about getting a "C" that would be because you know what you're doing and you can write.


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Idamus Josh wrote: "Na wrote: "but I like analysing, learning and talking about books.
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That's the only useful part anyway.

We are a grade/score oriented culture. But the grade is not the important part of any..."


I rush through books to find out how they end, then later I reread at a slower pace (unless it was a bad book) ;-)


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Josh (joshlanyon) | 23709 comments Mod
Carlita wrote: "Josh wrote: It's all relative...

True. And, about getting a "C" that would be because you know what you're doing and you can write."


That's part of it, you bet! I was lucky to get a C in algebra. :-D

Sometimes I read critical reviews and think: okay, fair enough. Other times I think: you don't know what you're talking about.

(Er, not YOU. I do think YOU know what you're talking about. I appreciate your reviews ;-) )


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Johanna | 18130 comments Mod
Josh wrote: "Johanna wrote: "Josh wrote: "That said, I'm actually quite tolerant of reviews from the "just a reader" contributors."

Phew! *Decides to keep writing those not-real-reviews-but-more-like-scattered-thoughts of bo..."

You write excellent reviews. You know why I think so? Because you are cogent and articulate, but also because your reviews are very personal and you share why you are reacting the way you do. Anyone reading your review knows exactly where you are coming from. That's useful."


Thank you, dear. *blushes a little* Hearing that really means a lot to me — especially because my English is far from perfect.


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Josh (joshlanyon) | 23709 comments Mod
Lou wrote: "Josh wrote: "Or would sales plummet if I didn't appear to be accessible? "

I don't know, but there's difference between being accessible and over-sharing. You don't do the latter.

As for reviews..."


The fact that so many people are actively talking about books seems like it is a good thing.

But at the same time it feels like books are increasingly less valued, so who knows?


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Johanna | 18130 comments Mod
Josh wrote: "Susinok wrote: "you are still the Mystery Man. ..."

Please. The Mystery MARTINI GLASS. ;-D"


*splutter* :-)


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Johanna | 18130 comments Mod
Anne wrote: "And last, some of the most beloved Norwegian books were written by people we know were not nice, the books are still wonderful. Somehow it would be a shame if these stories didn't find an audience because people disliked the author. Or a painter, a musician."

Agreed.


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Josh (joshlanyon) | 23709 comments Mod
Idamus wrote: "Josh wrote: "Na wrote: "but I like analysing, learning and talking about books.
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That's the only useful part anyway.

We are a grade/score oriented culture. But the grade is not the importan..."


LOL

I only do that if I really can't take the suspense.

In fact -- this is really bad, I think -- I've started checking out the endings of movies on Wikipedia if I'm afraid of how it's going to turn out. :-D


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Johanna | 18130 comments Mod
Josh wrote: "I think trying to place numerical and grade values on art is part of the trouble. I've received rave three star reviews. And I've received four star reviews that read like a two star review."

I hate grading the works of my art students with school numbers. I don't think we should be doing evaluation like this (numbers, stars, whatever) when art is concerned.


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Josh (joshlanyon) | 23709 comments Mod
Where I really get mad about fake reviews is when I'm trying to buy products like electronics -- something that is not subjective. There you have lying about the quality -- and running down the competition. It's just infuriating. There's nothing subjective about a product that doesn't work.

and now we have officially moved TOTALLY off topic. :-P


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Johanna | 18130 comments Mod
Josh wrote: "and now we have officially moved TOTALLY off topic. :-P"

Which is one of the things that makes this group such a delightful place. :-D


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Anne | 6816 comments Johanna wrote: "Josh wrote: "and now we have officially moved TOTALLY off topic. :-P"

Which is one of the things that makes this group such a delightful place. :-D"


Yes! ;)


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Josh (joshlanyon) | 23709 comments Mod
I got so cocky about being in the homestretch, I've used up all my morning! Oops. :-D

TTY'all Later.


message 1321: by Anne (last edited Sep 08, 2014 12:11PM) (new)

Anne | 6816 comments Josh wrote: "I got so cocky about being in the homestretch, I've used up all my morning! Oops. :-D

TTY'all Later."


Yes, back to work with you! ;)

ETA: a very good and fun discussion, thank you.


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Karen | 4449 comments Mod
Wow! What an interesting discussion when I was at work. Otherwise I probably would have used up all my morning too. : )

When I write reader comments, and that's not often, I think of it as just that, my comments. Sometimes I write because I feel that a book deserves reader attention (and maybe hasn't received much), and sometimes my comments are my public thanks to a writer. But I'm very uncomfortable with considering what I've written as a review, because it really isn't one. I seldom synopsize. I don't critique. I don't "review" books I didn't like. I do look at some reviews (the ones without those giant flashing gifs), mostly those by members of this group or by writers I read. And that's useful, but it's almost always the excerpt that seals the deal.


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HJ | 3603 comments Idamus wrote: "I rush through books to find out how they end, then later I reread at a slower pace (unless it was a bad book) ;-) ..."

I do this too. It's one of the reasons I like audiobooks; I can't rush them. I rarely listen to a book before I've read it, unless I know I have a long period in which to listen -- because I'm in too much of a hurry to find out what happens!!


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Jordan Lombard (jslombard) | 15348 comments Mod
In the past, I only gave stars to books here so I could know something about my reading experience later on. It's also a way to quickly tell if I read something already. lol.

But other authors started requesting reviews from readers of freshly pubbed books, and someone else came out with the list of questions for her reviews and I started to think about doing more "review" type things.

I do find that some reviews are helpful, especially when then blurb isn't. They often help clarify things. Also, I'll read almost anything. I don't really have any hard limits, don't really need a safeword or any of that. lol. But I know so many people do, so I think it's good to be able to put some of those specific things into a review, so that those who can't read about certain things will be forewarned. And I then add a section of "personal thoughts" where I can gush about it, or explain why I rated it low, or high, or whatever.

When I do book reviews for work, I do them very differently because it's on a blog. There is no blurb at the top of the page. So I summarize the book in paragraph one, and then paragraph two is why I liked or didn't like it. Audio books will get three paragraphs, so I can talk about the narrator too.

But the whole reviewing outside of work has only been a recent thing. I'm also finding it to be a good thing for me personally, because my memory is crap. And I've gone back to review previously read books and forgotten important parts to be able to review it properly. So, having those comments to jog my memory months or years later, is a good thing.


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Jordan Lombard (jslombard) | 15348 comments Mod
As far as getting to know authors closely, I don't know that much about most of the authors I read. Sure I follow some of them on Twitter, or interact here in this group, but I still don't know a lot.

Yes, Josh, you are the Mysterious Martini Glass!

I've never really wanted to know a lot about specific authors. Growing up, I didn't know anything. That's just the way it was. And therefore, it was a treat to get to see them in person, doing a talk and signing books. :-) I think that has just followed me into the next century.


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Varecia | 956 comments Jordan wrote: "As far as getting to know authors closely, I don't know that much about most of the authors I read. Sure I follow some of them on Twitter, or interact here in this group, but I still don't know a l..."

Yes, I too am very last century in this way. As a child I wrote a letter to the author of my favourite books and was thunderstruck when he not only wrote back but included a drawing (he illustrated his own books). That letter was my most treasured possession for a very long time :-)


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Susinok | 5205 comments My mother sent a card to Isaac Asimov and received a post card as a reply. I still have it.


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Susinok | 5205 comments Lou wrote: "When I was a kid I sent a letter and a drawing of a dodo to Gerald Durrell. (There was an address at the end of one of his books.) He wrote me back, or probably his staff, but it did..."

I loved Durrell's books. They were so much fun. I didn't discover them until adulthood though. Pity.

I also loved the James Herriott veterinary series. I still have my battered paperback copy of All Creatures Great and Small


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HJ | 3603 comments The audiobooks of Gerald Durrell's books are very good, especially the ones he also narrates.


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Susinok | 5205 comments Hj wrote: "The audiobooks of Gerald Durrell's books are very good, especially the ones he also narrates."

Oh cool! I will look for them.


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HJ | 3603 comments Karen wrote: "A new JL blogpost: http://joshlanyon.blogspot.com/2014/0..."

Thanks, Karen!


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Johanna | 18130 comments Mod
A new blog post and time for another FIVE THINGS I LOVE:

http://joshlanyon.blogspot.fi/2014/09...


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Josh (joshlanyon) | 23709 comments Mod
:-D


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Johanna | 18130 comments Mod
If you haven't yet subscribed for Josh's Newsletter, you might want to do it now here.

There is a hilarious interview with Kit and J.X. in the brand new Newsletter! Made me laugh out loud (several times!). :-D

ETA: The first part of that interview was in Josh's December 2013 Newsletter.


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Antonella | 11565 comments Sabine wrote: "A new blog post:

http://joshlanyon.blogspot.de/"


Thank you!


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Antonella | 11565 comments Thank you once more ;-)


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Sabine | 3041 comments And there is another blog by Josh :-)
http://notyourusualsuspects.blogspot....


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Johanna | 18130 comments Mod
Thank you for the links, Sabine!


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Carlita Costello | 1219 comments This latest Josh blog is wonderful. Josh, you seem to be in a very good place. :-)


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Jordan Lombard (jslombard) | 15348 comments Mod
Josh wrote: "Lou wrote: "Marshall wrote: "Finally, on Goodreads readers are quick to say "I'm striking you off my list". Well, that's short sighted."

I haven't been able to watch any Tom Cruise movies since he..."


When I started reading your books, Josh, I was still used to the idea of the writer being somewhere else. Somewhere I couldn't talk to them or see them unless they did a book signing near me.

If you dropped off the face of the internet, but kept writing, it wouldn't bother me, in that I would still keep reading your work. However, knowing you now as I do here on GR, I would probably worry that things were suddenly not okay, unless you explained with good reasoning why you were withdrawing from the world to continue to write, or not, as the case might be.

I see other authors who aren't on social media as much, they tend to come in for awhile then duck out again. And that's normal for them, so I don't think twice when we don't hear from Aleks or Ginn or whomever. I do miss hearing what they have to say, of course. But you do tend to show up here on a fairly regular basis, almost daily, so it would be weird if you suddenly didn't. Perhaps for others who aren't here on GR or any other place you frequent like this, they wouldn't notice as much if you withdrew from the internet.


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Jordan Lombard (jslombard) | 15348 comments Mod
Sabine wrote: "A new blog post:

http://joshlanyon.blogspot.de/"


Am wicked excited about this new Christmas anthology! And all four authors are authors I want to read. So yay! I'm always bummed when an anthology contains only one or two works I'm interested in. So glad that isn't the case here. :-D


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Loretta (loris65) | 1545 comments Ohh, I hadn't read that blurb before now. Just a few more weeks...


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Jordan Lombard (jslombard) | 15348 comments Mod
Sabine wrote: "And there is another blog by Josh :-)
http://notyourusualsuspects.blogspot...."


The blurb for Fair Play sounds soooooo good!


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HJ | 3603 comments I hope this link works. It's Josh writing about the poets of WWI and Out of the Blue for Charlie Cochrane on her LJ account (she sets many of her books in that period).

http://charliecochrane.livejournal.co...


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Alison | 4756 comments Jordan wrote: "Sabine wrote: "A new blog post:

http://joshlanyon.blogspot.de/"

Am wicked excited about this new Christmas anthology! And all four authors are authors I want to read. So yay! I'm always bummed wh..."


Oh yes, this anthology looks great. Very keen. :)


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Johanna | 18130 comments Mod
Hj wrote: "I hope this link works. It's Josh writing about the poets of WWI and Out of the Blue for Charlie Cochrane on her LJ account (she sets many of her books in that peri..."

Thank you for the link, Hj!


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Antonella | 11565 comments HJ wrote: "I hope this link works. It's Josh writing about the poets of WWI and Out of the Blue for Charlie Cochrane on her LJ account (she sets many of her books in that peri..."

Thank you, I wouldn't have noticed this post!


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