Jessica’s Comments (group member since Nov 22, 2010)

Jessica’s comments from the The Extra Cool Group! (of people Michael is experimenting on) group.

you have to be first, Jimmy!

MyFleshSingsOut wrote: "I hate snobby elitists. I'm so much better than them."

;-)

for instance, Khaya spells the color grey as 'gray.'
that really rubs me the wrong way.
I don't want to be a colorist here, but grey should always be spelled with an 'e.' No matter what those American editors say.

I very much agree with you, Khaya.

random reads happen for me from the various swap shops around where I live: in the local cafe, at the dump (!), and at my college(workplace)...all have swap racks for books. It's fun. I've picked up some great books I'd not have read otherwise. and some semi-duds...but that's okay too.

So, do you all think certain reviews invite negative comments? (or is it acceptable to put negative comments on said reviews.)

of course it is. One should expect that if one writes reviews for the public eye. The trick in writing negative comments is in the tone, and of course, in not attacking the reviewer. To stick with the ideas in the reviews and to attack them...if one feels one must. for whatever reason--

I don't mind a good argument. discussion. I try to stay away from personal attacks.

I know this is a public group, but I think we felt safe here, able to write comments and views here without being attacked. If I were a moderator, I'd want to maintain that.

just saying... and in light of LL~PB's above comment... I'm not trying to prolong anything here.

I do mean inappropriately expressed. You don't go into civilized conversation with your claws out. She is entitled to whatever opinion she may have. She was dealt with reasonably on that thread by a group of reasonable people. There were others who shared her view, but managed to stay above name-calling.

I agree. And I wish it had stayed there and at that
and had not been brought in here. But since it has, and you've clarified things, that's to the good I think...

okay, but don't you mean inappropriately expressed?

surely she can have a decidedly different opinion?

well I'll look at the thread again, and I don't mean to drive this into the ground, but it does seem to me that a number of people responded to her on the thread in a way that could feel like a group.

and then there's this: Troll gets dealt with, Petra. Sometimes by groups of users.

all right, LL~PB. and I do like boiled eggs.

okay Caris, I just think Elizabeth defended herself well enough on her own review-thread, and Petra made clear in this discussion she felt very passionate, perhaps overly so, and was taking time to cool down...

being called an elitist to me is on the level of being called a liberal or a communist...not so bad, after all.

LethalLovely~Punch the Bitch You Hate Today! wrote: "I like YOU, Petra X. I like YOU "Motherfucking Enforcer". I like YOU, Esteban-love me some suicidal Santa. I like YOU Jessica-especially since I thought your avi was a boiled egg at first glance. M..."

this --to me --is not about liking or hating. it's about having a discussion and clearing up some stuff, some of which is/has been hurtful.

Caris wrote: "Oh, yeah. I wasn't calling her like an under-the-bridge-straight-outta-Willow troll. Just a discourteous user of this website. I apologize for the confusion. Not so long ago, I wouldn't have unders..."

of course I knew that. But I never understood a troll to be a namecaller. I thought it was someone who popped into a thread, left a snarky comment and left.

because I'd never looked it up before, I did now. Urban Dictionary states:

One who purposely and deliberately (that purpose usually being self-amusement) starts an argument in a manner which attacks others on a forum without in any way listening to the arguments proposed by his or her peers. He will spark of such an argument via the use of ad hominem attacks (i.e. 'you're nothing but a fanboy' is a popular phrase) with no substance or relevence to back them up as well as straw man arguments, which he uses to simply avoid addressing the essence of the issue.


I don't see that that was what Petra was doing.
True, she could have toned down her rhetoric.
But, she was in fact on topic, etc etc

I guess I've never understood what a troll -- in the online world -- was.

oh yeah, book sales like that are terrific. My library had one recently--I came away with a box of really interesting looking books for $5.

it seems to me the 'battle' had already taken place on the comment thread of Elizabeth's review, why also bring it in here?

I don't see the point of your comment, Caris.
and why are you calling Petra a troll?
If she reads a review and makes a comment, she's a troll?

yeah... I've learned from intense (and volatile) email exchanges with friends over the years, that the best thing to do is to first step back. calm down and cool down. and then you can approach the comment--whatever it might be--without the feelings of personal injury and attack.

I try to maintain a level head. But, as you can see from this comment thread, some folks would like to see me explode for once:

http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/...