Did You Notice Something a Little Different?

the best thing we can all do.. is write a snail mail complaint to amazon corporate HQ..

F.P. wrote: "Maybe someone should send Goodreads a single email petition, containing a whole bunch of usernames, but I'm afraid that a big part of the problem is: this site is free to use. In my experience at l..."

We could try at change.org? If anyone does set up a petition there, please post here so that we can go sign it. I don't know anything about that site personally but I hear it's had some good results.

F.P. wrote: "Suvi wrote: One of the problems is, that most users are passively getting used to the layout, and some just leave or some don't care enough. "

--You're right. Even I have adapted somewhat, and I a..."

No, I completely get it. I've been wondering what the effect on GR stats have been these past few weeks, and how much it matters to them. Like you said, some users purchase books through GR, so I'm having a hard time understanding why Amazon would shoot themselves in the leg. Are they really such a big company that a few lost users and lost user activity doesn't matter?

Time will tell.

And I don't really blame those who want to adjust quietly. I've been here since 2007, so I'd have a hard time letting go, too.

F.P. wrote: "I've put up the two posts, but if no one uses them or likes the idea, I will delete them--no biggie.

When problems happen anywhere, I always feel like I should at least try something, and now I ha..."

I do have experience with petitions - and successful ones, I am happy to report. Today is bad to take care of writing one up - my two year old is sick, and needing her mama. But tomorrow is a new day, if enough people are interested!

remember.. Goodreads.com does not care about you or your petition...

you need to send your complaints to Amazon.com. They paid over 200 million dollars for thiis mess...

We can all change our user names to the same one. Someone's bound to notice. Smth like "Bring back old GR" instead of "M'rella", "F.P.", "Eddie" and whoever else.

Amazon doesn't give crap about GR. The whole merger thing shouldn't have happened. It's a conflict of interest: Amazon sells books and then buys out and now controls a book review site. Sounds like a bad joke. Only it's not.

So, yes, I agree with Eddie. Petition won't help. But neither would Stylish, at least not for long. If we don't push back, Amazon will drive GR into a ditch and leave it there to rot.

A petition might not help, but neither will twiddling your thumbs. If you want a petition signed, post the link to where you want us to put the information.

I've also found that being nice and civilized will only get you so far. Whoever said that you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar was living on another planet or not dealing with the current set of unfeeling, useless, uncaring, incompetent, illogical, inefficient and bungling fruitcakes that have pervaded every kind of commercial and industrial industry.

Good call, F.P.

Doing something is always preferable to rolling over and taking whatever you are handed. Here's hoping we can get enough on board!

PS - for a successful campaign, you need to detail the issues, and list what we want done with it, otherwise all we got is a list of names. There also needs to be a name of who the petition and signatures (*ahem* usernames) will be going to.

One of my favorite quotes: "Well behaved women rarely make history!"

Despite Eddie's dissent, I think if we can get our voices together as one, we will create change. To change!!

*puts on hard hat* Lets go to war people. Look alive!

make sock puppet accounts!

Uhhh

I'M SORRY, BUT I AM A REALISTIC PERSON, AND IF A COMPANY CANNOT SEE THE TONS AND TONS OF COMPLAINTS/POSTS AND DO NOTHING, THEN WHAT MAKES YOU THINK BY SIGNING WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE? I KNOW FOLKS HAVE TO DO SOMETHING, BUT EVERY DAMN DAY, I COME ON HERE, AND SEE JUST HOW MANY POSTS AND SEE NOTHING IS DONE, AND YET THEY SEEM TO NOT, "NOT" WANT TO DO A THING, SAD. I REALLY ENJOYED THIS PLACE, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, I HAVE TO TYPE BIG, SORRY IF THIS CRAMPS SOMEONE'S STYLE OF READING, BUT A GIRL HAS TO DO WHAT A GIRL HAS TO DO.. IN MY 59 YEARS OF LIVING, I HAVE NEVER SEEN A COMPANY "NOT" WANT TO LISTEN TO COMPLAINTS/POSTS, OR COMING ON AND EXPLAINING WHY THEY WON'T CHANGE BACK, OR MOVE IT FORWARD. ONE THING YOU NEVER WANT TO DO IN LIFE IS IGNORE FOLKS, WHEN YOU DO THAT, THEN THAT TELLS ME HOW YOU "REALLY FEEL" ABOUT PEOPLE....WE ARE GETTING CLOSE TO THE MILLION POST MARK, SO MAYBE WHEN WE HIT THAT MAGICAL NUMBER, THEN SOMEONE IN THE OVAL OFFICE WILL SPEAK....

Nice. Thank you very much for your efforts. :)

Here's my "signature" Barbara https://www.goodreads.com/user/show/8...

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Please take your spam elsewhere, or better yet, don't take it anywhere at all.

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AMEN SISTER,,TAKE THAT SPAM SOMEPLACE ELSE...

You have no idea how angry these idiot spammers make me. Like they come onto my group and just make a thread. Sometimes not even in a folder so it creates that stupid 'welcome' thread.

The other day I had an AUTHOR come onto my group and put up one of his financial books on the bookshelf.

It is so disrespectful.

Oh yeah, I have had those too, and they get booted....

I was the moderator on all the groups it happened in, I did it myself XP

☯ DαякєηRнαℓ ❛ ᴰᵃʳᵏ ᴴᵘᶰᵗᵉʳ ❜ wrote: "The other day I had an AUTHOR come onto my group and put up one of his financial books on the bookshelf."

Wow, the bloody nerve! I hope you reported them.

☯ DαякєηRнαℓ ❛ ᴰᵃʳᵏ ᴴᵘᶰᵗᵉʳ ❜ wrote: "I was the moderator on all the groups it happened in, I did it myself XP"

That must have been satisfying :)

EXACTLY! Like make your own group. Better yet ask first!

Admittedly though I did not report them. I just deleted their nonsense and blocked them :)

And yes. Yes it was.

The spam comment has been deleted. Result! :)

Are we ever going to be told why gender has vanished from user profiles and author profiles?

What is the big secret?

to make way for the genderless aliens who also like to read?

I think a 'both' option would be nice. The world is changing and some folks out there identify themselves as both male and female.

A new bug, my main page is now showing me recommendations. I hid this options when it was first introduced, and this is the first time in months (years?) it has shown up again. I hid it again, but I don't want to have to hide it every day. Make this go away.

Lobstergirl wrote: "A new bug, my main page is now showing me recommendations. I hid this options when it was first introduced, and this is the first time in months (years?) it has shown up again. I hid it again, but ..."

Back in October, I was getting Sponsored Personal Selection emails, despite having unchecked any and all appropriate boxes for getting unwanted emails and recommendations. I contacted GR directly about it and got it fixed. As I told them, I don't want unsolicited recommendations for what people think I should read. You might want to contact them directly, too. Especially if you have to deactivate it EVERY day.

(I will note, I think I stopped getting the basic newsletters I didn't mind getting about then as well, despite telling them I didn't want to unsubscribe from everything. Hmmmm....)

Wow this site really does suck.

Still...?

Crickets.

Staff is asleep.

Lobstergirl wrote: "Crickets.

Staff is asleep."

On the contrary. Staff are emptying bottles of champagne. Opposition has finally shut up (a foreseeable outcome).

GEEZE,LOUISE...3111 POSTS AND STILL...NOTHING.....FOLKS, I THINK THIS IS A DEAD CASE...

they do say they are working on it.. but seriously their support model can be a lot better.

I can cite one example of a transparent support model such as "feedly" company.

I'd appreciate some clarity on what is it that they plan on fixing and "when", especially that we are talking about a website design where they can just roll back.

I mean....not to mention the fact that there are no alpha or beta testers, nothing.

What makes the whole story sad is that this is a website for books, reading, reviews, more reading..and it is difficult to read.

AYMAN, THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS SINCE THIS THREAD HAS BEEN UP. SOUNDS A BIT LIKE THE WHITE HOUSE.

Meghan wrote: "Hi all, we've been making more regular updates in our Feedback Group, but just a general note here: A couple of lingering pages, like the book compatibility page, are still being looked into for br..."

Why can't you just change it back to the way it used to be and avoid this whole nonsense?

What a load of bullshit. GR sucks.

3100 messages and Goodreads staff still have YET to fix a super easy problem!! not to toot my own horn or anything, but I told you so... send a snail mail complaint to amazon HQ.. turn on ad block.. and run stylish..

Wow FINALLY a response from a staff member. Pity it isn't a more helpful one but it's not like I was expecting any better. I spend much less time on goodreads these days since I can't look at the screen without suffering from migraines but it's giving me loads more reading time so I guess I should thank you guys.

It's all very well for you to say that you've been responding in the feedback group but not all of us are members of that group (or even want to be!). You specifically created this thread for us to tell you about problems & it's the only place that most light goodreads users will know to look for answers so the least you can do is monitor it and have the decency to reply occasionally. That would be how a company with GOOD customer services would operate but considering I now think of this site as BADreads I wouldn't expect anything less than rubbish service.

Meghan wrote: "We're also looking at some of the pages that have egregious whitespace to figure out if there are fun things we can put there to help mitigate that issue. ."

Please don't create visual garbage just to fill up white space.

Sarah wrote: "It's all very well for you to say that you've been responding in the feedback group but not all of us are members of that group (or even want to be!). You specifically created this thread for us to tell you about problems & it's the only place that most light goodreads users will know to look for answers so the least you can do is monitor it and have the decency to reply occasionally. "

Thank you........

There are also people like me who have been banned from Feedback Group (Meghan, I'm sure you are aware) and thus unable to post there. This thread is the only place I can raise issues and bugs related to the redesign.

Meghan, please have someone go through my posts in this thread and ADDRESS THEM. There are NUMEROUS BUGS I have posted about in this thread which have still not been addressed.

I am not going to repost every single f***ing one.

You work here. Not me. You do the work.

I also need someone to explain to me why the italic suddenly got shrimp-sized. It looks ridiculous. Is that supposed to be good design?

Look, everyone, I understand that this new development on Goodreads did not sit well with everyone. But some people were fine with it. Some people did not even care. Just keep in mind that the staff working on the Goodreads site are busy every day and can not just push everything else aside to instantaneously fix a problem like this. It is not just like clicking the undo button in Word. They get complaints every day, have bugs to deal with. They know about the problem and Meghan herself has said they are working on it. Now just please give them all a break from your complaining.

Savannah wrote: "Now just please give them all a break from your complaining."

Right, because that is going to work well.

The people working on the Goodreads site are paid to do a job and if they make mistakes, need to be accountable, if only to their employer. Goodreads as a site cannot survive without the goodwill and input of users. It is our unique contribution that makes it special. Without that it would become just another book review site so it makes commercial sense to have a site that is user-friendly for the majority , not just some, of those users. That they have made changes that appear to have caused problems for a significant number of consumers is their problem. If they don't fix it and make it more pleasant to use then people will spend less time on here, contribute less and drift away to rival sites which means an economic loss for GR in terms of advertising and a knock-on effect for their owners Amazon if we choose to buy our books elsewhere. THAT is why Goodreads should be trying to fix things quickly.

Shauna wrote: "The people working on the Goodreads site are paid to do a job and if they make mistakes, need to be accountable if only to their employer. Goodreads as a site cannot survive without the goodwill an..."

Fully agree, Shauna.

Savannah wrote: "Look, everyone, I understand that this new development on Goodreads did not sit well with everyone. But some people were fine with it. Some people did not even care. Just keep in mind that the staf..."
They created the bulk of these problems with the new design layout!! So now they have a bunch of problems to fix and can't manage it. Sounds like the government! Maybe they can create a whole new agency to fix the problems they created lol!

POST 3121...THE KEY WORD THAT YOU SAID IS " SOME"..IF YOU LOOK AT THIS WHOLE THREAD, MAJORITY HAS PUT IN THEIR INPUT, AND THE MAJORITY IN THE UNITED STATES RULES, RIGHT?...I BETTER SLOW MY ROLE BEFORE I GET BANNED. BUT COME ON GR, ARE YOU SERIOUS? IF SO MANY ARE UPSET, WOULDN'T YOU THINK THAT THERE IS A HUGE PROBLEM?..COMMON SENSE PEOPLE...OKAY, SO BEFORE YOU GUYS CHEW ME OUT, I AM TYPING BIG BECAUSE IT SEEMS THAT EVERY TIME I GET ON HERE, IT LOOKS SMALLER..AND I CAN'T SEE....WHY MAKE ME SUFFER???

Lobstergirl - Word man.

Shauna - Totally agree.

Savannah - I take high offense to that. We're not just all a bunch of bratty kids whining. Numerous people have stated that their EYES GET SORE and they SUFFER FROM MIGRAINES now when using this site. I read at least ten times people saying they used GR LESS BECAUSE OF ITS NEW DESIGN.

Frankly this is also the SECOND time they have redone their image since I have been a member and both times it was a disaster! They can't keep changing it like a fucking roulette wheel hoping to land on something people like!

People shouldn't have to get new programs to view GR better or change settings on their devices for just viewing one site better.

I have my own issues too, mainly that sending a group mail bypasses friends only mail settings. And GR overall lack of dealing with bullies. Which has been an issue for me since the time I joined. This site needs improving so that EVERYONE can have an enjoyable experience and right now it is not enjoyable!

GR advertised itself as a vintage elegant muted lovely book website where people can come and interact with each other and talk books. Or even role play. Or even make gorgeous template designs, expanding their creativity. But with the new design the majority of elderly folk or people with medical issues can't enjoy this site, the text took ages to get to a decent look and template makers are in an uproar because their previous works now look like shit.

The majority of all demographics are unhappy. I don't think it is any website's aim to make its users unhappy. That is the problem, that is the issue. That and GR staff complete and utter lack in HEARING US. ITS USERS WHO ACTUALLY USE THE DAMN SITE! The people who SHOULD matter. Hell they don't even humour us! And then when they do they spew a bunch of shit like their new look.

And really, I am sure that I speak for all of us in saying we have nothing against the GR staff personally. I'm sure they are lovely people. The problem I have is their work ethic. Shauna is right. It is their jobs! Running the website and making people happy are what they are bloody paid to do! By us! The tax payers! I am sure they get a lovely fat salary for 'handling' the situation. A situation they are supposed to fix, because it is their jobs, but don't. Again I have had issues for the last three years! Surely it doesn't take that long! And by the sounds of it, Lobstergirl has had issues for even longer then me.

Maybe they should fix the complaints to not get them huh?

And really, you say it yourself. SOME people didn't have an issue, While EVERYONE has an issue with it. So you defeat your own logic.

And frankly changing the carrot stars back to red stars is not enough progress. And please, I agree with Lobstergirl, no junk to 'fill up' the damn space. I'm sure GR will just fuck that up too.

I mean seriously.