Goodreads Transitions to New Data Sources
We're happy to announce that Goodreads has reached a new milestone: We are no longer dependent on Amazon for book information. Ingram, the largest wholesaler of books in the U.S., is our new primary data partner, and our agreement with them will ensure accurate and reliable information for the foreseeable future. In addition to Ingram, we are working with dozens of other open data sources, such as libraries, to find book records from all over the world (see below for a list). This is an exciting moment, and we're confident that this change will be better for the members of Goodreads and long-term success of the site.
What has changed? Not as much as you might think.
Fewer than 2 percent of our 7 million users have books currently affected. However, you may notice some missing cover images. We are still in the process of importing millions of images from several sources, so please be patient—most of those images will be back very soon.
Today, 99 percent of the transition to new data sources is now complete. For the remaining 1 percent of books without new sources, book records may appear blank: listed as "Unknown Title" and "Unknown Author." Once we've found a new source of data for those books, they will be restored. Please be assured that all of your reviews and ratings will continue to be available during the transition.
What can I do right now?
Here's what you can do to help make the switch as smooth as possible:
If you see a blank book record—one listed as "Unknown Title" and "Unknown Author"—and you know what book it is (for example, if you reviewed the book and can recognize it from your review), please report it in the Goodreads Librarians Group or apply to become a Librarian yourself. If you're a librarian and you see a blank book record that you can identify, please feel free to enter new information using one of the approved sources listed in this post.
If you see a book missing a cover, feel free to find a new one on the author's or publisher's Web site and upload it to Goodreads. While many of the missing cover images will be included very soon in our ongoing imports, we also welcome book information from Goodreads members.
Why did we do this?
Quality book information—such as titles, authors, publication dates, and cover images—is the life blood of a site dedicated to book discovery and literary discussion. Since its inception, Goodreads has relied on Amazon's public API for much of this information, and while Amazon data was free, it came with many restrictions. For instance, we couldn't use their information for our mobile apps or link to competing bookstores. If you have any additional questions about the transition, please feel free to contact us.
We'd like to say a big thank you to the many Goodreads Librarians and Goodreads Authors who have worked tirelessly to help with the transition over the past few weeks. Thank you again for continuing to make Goodreads the amazing and unique place it is. We look forward to providing you with the best, most accurate, and most all-encompassing book database in the world for many years to come.
Our sources of data
Ingram
WorldCat
ISBNdb
All Major American Publishers
Many Smaller American Publishers
The Library of Congress
The German National Library
The British National Library
Goodreads Authors
(And growing!)
Authors and Publishers, would you like to be a source?
We are very proud of the enormous community of authors on the site, and keeping your book information accurate has always been a priority of ours. We are most likely already importing a feed of data for your books (either from Ingram or directly from your publisher), but if you would like to confirm this, or offer us a feed of data to ensure that your books will always be available to the millions of readers on Goodreads, please contact us.
What has changed? Not as much as you might think.
Fewer than 2 percent of our 7 million users have books currently affected. However, you may notice some missing cover images. We are still in the process of importing millions of images from several sources, so please be patient—most of those images will be back very soon.
Today, 99 percent of the transition to new data sources is now complete. For the remaining 1 percent of books without new sources, book records may appear blank: listed as "Unknown Title" and "Unknown Author." Once we've found a new source of data for those books, they will be restored. Please be assured that all of your reviews and ratings will continue to be available during the transition.
What can I do right now?
Here's what you can do to help make the switch as smooth as possible:
If you see a blank book record—one listed as "Unknown Title" and "Unknown Author"—and you know what book it is (for example, if you reviewed the book and can recognize it from your review), please report it in the Goodreads Librarians Group or apply to become a Librarian yourself. If you're a librarian and you see a blank book record that you can identify, please feel free to enter new information using one of the approved sources listed in this post.
If you see a book missing a cover, feel free to find a new one on the author's or publisher's Web site and upload it to Goodreads. While many of the missing cover images will be included very soon in our ongoing imports, we also welcome book information from Goodreads members.
Why did we do this?
Quality book information—such as titles, authors, publication dates, and cover images—is the life blood of a site dedicated to book discovery and literary discussion. Since its inception, Goodreads has relied on Amazon's public API for much of this information, and while Amazon data was free, it came with many restrictions. For instance, we couldn't use their information for our mobile apps or link to competing bookstores. If you have any additional questions about the transition, please feel free to contact us.
We'd like to say a big thank you to the many Goodreads Librarians and Goodreads Authors who have worked tirelessly to help with the transition over the past few weeks. Thank you again for continuing to make Goodreads the amazing and unique place it is. We look forward to providing you with the best, most accurate, and most all-encompassing book database in the world for many years to come.
Our sources of data
Ingram
WorldCat
ISBNdb
All Major American Publishers
Many Smaller American Publishers
The Library of Congress
The German National Library
The British National Library
Goodreads Authors
(And growing!)
Authors and Publishers, would you like to be a source?
We are very proud of the enormous community of authors on the site, and keeping your book information accurate has always been a priority of ours. We are most likely already importing a feed of data for your books (either from Ingram or directly from your publisher), but if you would like to confirm this, or offer us a feed of data to ensure that your books will always be available to the millions of readers on Goodreads, please contact us.
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As noted in the post above, most book covers will be back in a few days. We're importing them now.

I can only imagine this has been an enormous task, my thanks to everybody involved!

Also I (and I'm sure others) intend on going back in there in the next few days to update spare fields which we skipped over during our epic rescue attempts. Nobody likes a missing cover ;)


Um, yes. That's what this post says.
It would be nice to have them back.
Again, this post states they will be restored. Did you not read the whole article????

The authors of Kindle editions can upload their cover images to Goodreads themselves. Or Goodreads Librarians can get the image from the author's website or library websites. Taking the cover from the ebook edition on Goodreads should be okay, but it's a good idea to double-check elsewhere that they're the same.


Yes, in fact, we are working on a new and very comprehensive Canadian data source as I write this.



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book depository doesn't seem to have book summaries available though, at least from what I've seen




Since they publish something like 100 romance novels a month, that'd be a nice chunk of books to play with.

Since they publish something like 10..."
We are getting a feed from Harlequin, but it does not include Kindle editions, so if that's primarily what you're reading, that may be the issue.

It's coming from an aggregator, so we'll probably need to check with them about it. Thanks for reporting that.

And actually, if you have some examples, that would be great too. We were finding successful ONIX feeds for most harlequin books.

For example: This book only lists the paperback, but Harlequin shows an ebook version here.
ETA: And of course every other ISBN I've tried just now has worked. And the example above is for an ebook that releases tomorrow, So maybe it's a smaller issue than I've made it out to me.

For example: This book only lists the paperback..."
It looks like we might be a little bit behind on processing the feeds. Since this is a newer book, it should get picked up in the next pass. We'll eventually get a good, efficient schedule for processing the feeds sorted out, but until then, you may occasionally see books like this that haven't made it onto the site yet.



That's a result of the sort of in-between state. We should have a rescue page that lets you re-source the data fairly soon. Sorry for the inconvenience.

I second this. I wasn't even aware of this blog until I saw a link in a post.

Personally I make over 80% of my royalties and sales on Amazon, so if Amazon books aren't going to be listed on here anymore, it sort of turns me off Goodreads. I buy all my books on Amazon too, so if I'm browsing books on GR, I like to have the ability to buy from them with a link from your site.
Everything I've read about the move on the web makes it sound very anti-Amazon.

Our goal is and has always been to have all books on Goodreads available to review. As Amazon isn't giving us a feed of KDP or CreateSpace titles, we will have to manually add those until we find a better solution. We will continue to link to Amazon - we never said we wouldn't do that. This change is not about us being anti-Amazon. It's about us having more freedom to build our business with our own data.

I'm just a little annoyed. I don't really care, that some book covers are momentarily not visible, as i hope they will come back soon (though i kind of have my doubts about all of my german books...as all of the covers have gone awol), I just don't like the fact that some books have completely changed editions! this is making it very unorganized for me, and I use goodreads for organizing my books...i'd rather have no cover and the actual edition that i have on my shelf, than a completely wrong edition with the wrong page count and just everything.
But I'll have trust and think you'll work on everything! keep going goodreads! :) just ranting

I mean I would know if I had any idea what the title, author, or topic was... but as all I can see is 'Unknown Book 10204912024 by Unknown Author 193102,' I am drawing a complete blank. Hope this gets fixed in... ever.

I mean I would know if I had a..."
I looked at the first one and it's a Kindle edition - can you look on your Kindle to see a date read or anything like that? (I don't have a Kindle, so I have no idea.) Or can you look it up by it's ASIN, or by it's publication date (June 2011)?
This is a tremendous PITA, I know, but it's just a bump in the road. It will get better. = )



Overall, I think with the immense amount of work done by staff and volunteer librarians that a LOT of data was saved in the immediate present. Yes, there is plenty of work to do to clean things up, and yes, it will take some time, but overall it could have been much much worse. Keep in mind, there was no 'beta test' that could have been prepared for - when GR decided to move away from Amazon, they set a totally unrealistic (and cruel) deadline of wiping all their data from the site. As an example of how they should have acted, when GR lost Barnes&Noble as a data source, they just shut the feed off, but didn't ask that everything be scrubbed!
You should be able to find them pretty easily. Go to your "all" shelf and sort by author, then page or scroll to the 'U's for Unknown. You can do the same thing for title, and catch them both ways. HTH
Sucks. Totally destroyed my author's page and nothing has been restored.
If it isn't broke, fix it. Right.
If it isn't broke, fix it. Right.

It's too bad GR doesn't get more international. I feel that beside English/American books, there is not much that is done for other languages... But maybe I'm wrong, I hope I am.

It's too bad GR doesn't get more international. I feel that beside English/American books, there is not much that is do..."
We were able to get as many international books as we'd like. Although Worldcat and other library sources had quite a few. We intend to work on more and better international databases this year. If you know any good sources, do please let us know!

I'll be sure to inform the GR staff if I know of any good sources other than Amazon.

It's too bad GR doesn't get more international. I feel that beside English/American books, there is not..."
Found professional databases for french books : http://www.electre.com/
http://www.bibliopoche.com/

It's too bad GR doesn't get more international. I feel that beside English/American books,..."
Pascale - It's great you're finding sources! You'll want to send an email to the "contact us' link with the information as well (if you haven't already), to make sure TPTB see it asap. = )

Isavarg wrote: "Is this why a load of covers on my book list has disappeared? It would be nice to have them back. Having a blank cover looks awful and if you aren't a goodreads librarian, you can't upload it witho..."
Missing book covers doesn't bother me. Missing titles AND authors so I can't even tell WHICH book has been deleted -- that's ridiculous.
Missing book covers doesn't bother me. Missing titles AND authors so I can't even tell WHICH book has been deleted -- that's ridiculous.
Will there be a correction of books which were just books and no Kindle? I suddenly have Kindle editions in my shelf but I am an old fashioned paper reader :-O