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Feb 04, 2022 01:30AM
yessss....I want at least 10 movies
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I assume the excellent company makes it even better!
Nice to see 7 of the 8 authors listed are NOT white men!
The problem with movie adaptations of books is that they usually end up bearing only a passing resemblance to the source material - if that. A recent example is Ready Player One. Now, I love that book, being (1) a teenager in the 80s and (2) a computer programming geek, but the film has very little in common with the book other than the general structure of finding 3 keys and 3 gates.I think that the problems, generally, are ones of pacing and length. A book can be relatively slow, action-wise, as you are privy to what's going on inside the character's head, something a film can't do without a voice-over, which rarely works well. The amount that happens would also tend to be far too long for a movie - consider 90-120 pages of script for a film versus 300-400 pages for a book. The recent TV series of Good Omens demonstrates that: 1 book making 6 hours of TV in a pretty direct conversion from page to screen.
The film adaptation of Jurassic Park came reasonably close to the book, but Michael Crichton's books were always cinematic; hardly surprising when he was involved in TV and film for almost long as he was a writer.
So as much as I'd love to see Lois's work on the screen, I'd want it to resemble the books, and I can't see that happening. Although the Penric & Desdemona novellas, being a shorter form, might have a reasonable chance at it.
Top billing, too! Congratulations! It's completely deserved.
Kosigan wrote: "The problem with movie adaptations of books is that they usually end up bearing only a passing resemblance to the source material - if that. A recent example is Ready Player One. Now, I love that b..."Yep. That's why my best hope, if I ever get a media adaptation, would be for a book-respectful mini-series, not a much shorter feature film that, if only due to length constraints, would have to leave 3/4ths of the material on the cutting room floor. (Now, there's a technologically obsolete turn of phrase!) Novellas are indeed about the right length, but I don't think many of mine would make much sense without their parent series.
Ta, L.
Everyone with twitter should tweet blast netflix and other production companties to #MakeMiles!! Maybe we individually like the final product, maybe not because it leaves stuff out. But either way LOTS more people would get exposed, and thereby find the originals to read, and that is bound to make the world a better place.
Sandy wrote: "Everyone with twitter should tweet blast netflix and other production companties to #MakeMiles!! Maybe we individually like the final product, maybe not because it leaves stuff out. But either way ..."I have no real idea how Twitter works, but at best this sounds... unprofessional. I'd rather leave the work to my perfectly competent media rights agents, thanks.
L.
It isn't meant to be unprofessional, or to do the work of a media rights agent. Creating a "hashtag" on twitter and having a lot of people use it is just a way to show there is a current fan base/demand for/interest in something. Somewhat akin to having 10,000 people show up to a book signing rather than 10.Even people who weren't intially aware of or interested in it stop and take note. I admit I am not a twitter expert myself. But my friends who are authors often highly recommend using it, partly for connecting with like minded professionals, partly for reaching and expanding a fan base, and partly to stay connected with current cultural preferences and topics. Of course, my comment is perhaps vague and a bit confused since it then goes on to comment on a different topic. I admit I have been careing for a family member very ill with Covid and have averaged less than 2 hours of sleep a night for the last week. So perhaps I shouldn't try to comment clearly on things, clarity being out of my depth at the moment perhaps. I was thinking about fan campaigns in the past, such as fans of the tv show Firefly campagining to have a movie made. They showed there was such an interest that the project was able to get funded and created. Not many want to make shows they think no one is interested in seeing. The thought was fans could make a trending topic to go with the article and that would demonstrate interest enough to perhaps motivate the professionals to want to move the idea to the top of their list. The other half of the comment was in response to some folks concerns that they may not actually like a tv show or movie of their favorite book. My point was that is OK, since you still have the book, and even a less than perfect but popular movie still drives more readers to take interest in the original books. And I feel more people reading, especially reading high quality work such as your books, is a win for everyone. Even if I don't ultimatly like a movie as much as the book (who ever does?). These two line comment boxes aren't handy for reviewing so I hope that makes sense. You are the author and if you would rather not have folks talk about your work in a unified, public way (using the same hashtag in tweets in this case) then I will certainly respect that preference.
Oh, and the article was written by Leigh Butler! I used to read her articles on Tor - she's a regular there. I know she mentioned being a fan of the Vorkosigan series at one point. I'm glad to see she's writing for TIME now!
Pers wrote: "Nice to see 7 of the 8 authors listed are NOT white men!"We should judge the quality, not the personality!
A TV miniseries sounds perfect. I was quite delighted by the miniseries of Terry Pratchett's Going Postal.
I want this, and I want it to be done Right. And then I want to see That Scene from The Vor Game.
And i wonder if it might be better in animation than in live action. Casting voices is presumably easier than casting bodies.
I'm torn between wanting miniseries and being absolutely horrified by the idea. For some reason the show runners think they need to completely reinvent the material. They've managed to butcher even such an episode-friendly book as The Witcher, what would they do with a more complex story of Miles growing up?
That review/synopsis makes me want to re-read _Warrior's Apprentice_ now! (It has been a few years.)There have been multiple companies that began work on screen adaptations of Anne McCaffrey's works; they all stalled out at some point. It would perhaps be instructive to look into the reasons, because I'm pretty sure many of them would apply equally to any book-to-screen endeavor.
As much as I would love the idea of a Vorkosigan Saga TV or movie adaptation, I have roughly zero faith it would do justice to the books. Most likely, Miles would be played by a 6-foot-tall, muscular, square-jawed actor ... argh! (Well, luckily there's no chance Ms. Bujold would ever be ok with such a thing, so at least we don't need to worry about that.)IMO, of all of Ms. Bujold's works, the Chalion novels are the ones most likely to be adaptable for the screen. The Curse of Chalion, especially, has just the right kind of mixture of medievalesque politics and supernatural that the producers who are looking for the "next Game of Thrones" nowadays might take a liking to.
The Penric and Desdemona novellas fulfil these criteria to some extent as well, but the problem with adapting them to screen is how would Des be depicted in a visual medium? As just a disembodied voice? As an apparition of sorts floating alongside Pen? And without showing her onscreen in some way, all the scenes of Pen talking to her would devolve into scenes of a guy babbling to himself in different voices.
### Can be taughtRereading Knife Children
In several scenes, Yina finds out how much of a fool was younger Barr
This is contrasted by Yina seeing older Barr's handling of everything thrown at Barr in Knife Children, including Lily being a strong mage
Yina has ample proof that Barr can be taught ( or Barr growing wiser as Barr gets older )
Gryphonkit, my wife, says one of my most attractive traits, especially after her previous male friends, and male relationships, was I could be taught
And a Good listener ( necessary for learning )
Barr also shows several instances of not saying all Barr is thinking, especially around woman
In my experience, a hard learned trait for most males who want to mansplain all over the ladies ( try to raise you kids with some 50% male 50% female interests, after the pandemic I recommend Renaissance Festivals and the better grade of Anime Convention )
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Daiv wrote: "I want this, and I want it to be done Right. And then I want to see That Scene from The Vor Game.
And i wonder if it might be better in animation than in live action. Casting voices is presumably..."
Ah, but which That Scene? Where Miles joins the freezing troops? His sexual panic attack with "Livia Nu?" His dialog with Gregor in the ImpSec holding cell? The conference where Captain Ungari is not in a listening mood? Or, the plasma canon fake-out where Gregor saves himself?
Did anyone see Arcane? Seems like a perfect fit for that twisted Vorkosigan genius. Maybe Netflix will get the word somehow.
