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Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid
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“Meaning lies as much
in the mind of the reader
as in the Haiku.”
― Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid
in the mind of the reader
as in the Haiku.”
― Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid
“Sometimes it seems as though each new step towards AI, rather than producing something which everyone agrees is real intelligence, merely reveals what real intelligence is not. ”
― Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid
― Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid
“How gullible are you? Is your gullibility located in some "gullibility center" in your brain? Could a neurosurgeon reach in and perform some delicate operation to lower your gullibility, otherwise leaving you alone? If you believe this, you are pretty gullible, and should perhaps consider such an operation.”
― Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid
― Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid
“The paraphrase of Gödel's Theorem says that for any record player, there are records which it cannot play because they will cause its indirect self-destruction.”
― Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid
― Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid
“What is an "I", and why are such things found (at least so far) only in association with, as poet Russell Edson once wonderfully phrased it, "teetering bulbs of dread and dream" -- that is, only in association with certain kinds of gooey lumps encased in hard protective shells mounted atop mobile pedestals that roam the world on pairs of slightly fuzzy, jointed stilts?”
― Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid
― Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid
“This idea that there is generality in the specific is of far-reaching importance.”
― Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid
― Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid
“[...] provability is a weaker notion than truth”
― Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid
― Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid
“For now, what is important is not finding the answer, but looking for it.”
― Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid
― Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid
“I wish my wish would not be granted!”
― Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid
― Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid
“People enjoy inventing slogans which violate basic arithmetic but which illustrate “deeper” truths, such as “1 and 1 make 1” (for lovers), or “1 plus 1 plus 1 equals 1” (the Trinity). You can easily pick holes in those slogans, showing why, for instance, using the plus-sign is inappropriate in both cases. But such cases proliferate. Two raindrops running down a window-pane merge; does one plus one make one? A cloud breaks up into two clouds -more evidence of the same? It is not at all easy to draw a sharp line between cases where what is happening could be called “addition”, and where some other word is wanted. If you think about the question, you will probably come up with some criterion involving separation of the objects in space, and making sure each one is clearly distinguishable from all the others. But then how could one count ideas? Or the number of gases comprising the atmosphere? Somewhere, if you try to look it up, you can probably fin a statement such as, “There are 17 languages in India, and 462 dialects.” There is something strange about the precise statements like that, when the concepts “language” and “dialect” are themselves fuzzy.”
― Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid
― Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid
“I can't help but recall, at this point, a horribly elitist but very droll remark by one of my favorite writers, the American "critic of the seven arts", James Huneker, in his scintillating biography of Frédéric Chopin, on the subject of Chopin's étude Op. 25, No. 11 in A minor, which for me, and for Huneker, is one of the most stirring and most sublime pieces of music ever written: “Small-souled men, no matter how agile their fingers, should avoid it.”
"Small-souled men"?! Whew! Does that phrase ever run against the grain of American democracy! And yet, leaving aside its offensive, archaic sexism (a crime I, too, commit in GEB, to my great regret), I would suggest that it is only because we all tacitly do believe in something like Hueneker's' shocking distinction that most of us are willing to eat animals of one sort or another, to smash flies, swat mosquitos, fight bacteria with antibiotics, and so forth. We generally concur that "men" such as a cow, a turkey, a frog, and a fish all possess some spark of consciousness, some kind of primitive "soul" but by God, it's a good deal smaller than ours is — and that, no more and no less, is why we "men" feel that we have the perfect right to extinguish the dim lights in the heads of these fractionally-souled beasts and to gobble down their once warm and wiggling, now chilled and stilled protoplasm with limitless gusto, and not feel a trace of guilt while doing so.”
― Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid
"Small-souled men"?! Whew! Does that phrase ever run against the grain of American democracy! And yet, leaving aside its offensive, archaic sexism (a crime I, too, commit in GEB, to my great regret), I would suggest that it is only because we all tacitly do believe in something like Hueneker's' shocking distinction that most of us are willing to eat animals of one sort or another, to smash flies, swat mosquitos, fight bacteria with antibiotics, and so forth. We generally concur that "men" such as a cow, a turkey, a frog, and a fish all possess some spark of consciousness, some kind of primitive "soul" but by God, it's a good deal smaller than ours is — and that, no more and no less, is why we "men" feel that we have the perfect right to extinguish the dim lights in the heads of these fractionally-souled beasts and to gobble down their once warm and wiggling, now chilled and stilled protoplasm with limitless gusto, and not feel a trace of guilt while doing so.”
― Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid
“Perhaps the greatest contradiction in our lives, the hardest to handle, is the knowledge 'There was a time when I was not alive, and there will come a time when I am not alive.' On one level, when you 'step out of yourself' and see yourself as 'just another human being', it makes complete sense. But on another level, perhaps a deeper level, personal nonexistence makes no sense at all. All that we know is embedded inside our minds, and for all that to be absent from the universe is not comprehensible. This is a basic undeniable problem of life...”
― Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid
― Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid
“Why is some music so much deeper and more beautiful than other music? It is because form, in music, is expressive–expressive to some strange subconscious regions of our minds. The sounds of music do not refer to serfs or city-states, but they do trigger clouds of emotion in our innermost selves; in that sense musical meaning IS dependent on intangible links from symbols to things in the world–those 'things', in this case, being secret software structures in our minds.”
― Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid
― Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid
“It now becomes clear that consistency is not a property of a formal system per se, but depends on the interpretation which is proposed for it. By the same token, inconsistency is not an intrinsic property of any formal system.”
― Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid
― Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid
“I enjoy acronyms. Recursive Acronyms Crablike "RACRECIR" Especially Create Infinite Regress”
― Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid
― Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid
“Since, as is well know, God helps those who help themselves, presumably the Devil helps all those, and only those, who don't help themselves. Does the Devil help himself?”
― Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid
― Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid
“A computer program can modify itself but it cannot violate its own instructions — it can at best change some parts of itself by *obeying* its own instructions.”
― Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid
― Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid
“But finally I realized that to me, Godel and Escher and Bach were only shadows cast in different directions by some central solid essence. I tried to construct the central object, and came up with this book.”
― Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid
― Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid
“Now what is "music"–a sequence of vibrations in the air, or a succession of emotional responses in the brain?”
― GODEL, ESCHER Y BACH
― GODEL, ESCHER Y BACH
“I personally cannot imagine that consciousness will be fully understood without reference to Godelian loops or level-crossing feedback loops.”
― Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid
― Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid
“Consistent or inconsistent, no one is exempt from the mystery of the self. Probably we are all inconsistent. The world is just too complicated for a person to be able to afford the luxury of reconciling all of his beliefs with each other. Tension and confusion are important in a world where many decisions must be made quickly. Miguel de Unamuno once said, 'If a person never contradicts himself, it must be that he says nothing.' I would say that we all are in the same boast as the Zen master who, after contradicting himself several times in a row, said to the confused Doko, 'I cannot understand myself.'.”
― Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid
― Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid
“What does it matter if two brains are isomorphic, or quasi-isomorphic, or not isomorphic at all? The answer is that we have an intuitive sense that, although other people differ from us in important ways, they are still 'the same' as we are in some deep and important ways. It would be instructive to be able to pinpoint what this invariant core of human intelligence is, and then to be able to describe the kinds of 'embellishments' which can be added to it, making each one of us a unique embodiment of this abstract and mysterious quality called 'intelligence.”
― Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid
― Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid
“To paraphrase Descartes again: "I think; therefore I have no access to the level where I sum.”
― Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid
― Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid
“Consistent or inconsistent, no one is exempt from the mystery of the self. Probably we are all inconsistent. Te world is just too complicated for a person to be able to afford the luxury of reconciling all of his beliefs with each other. Tension and confusion are important in a world where many decisions must be made quickly. Miguel de Unamuno once said, 'If a person never contradicts himself, it must be that he says nothing.' I would say that we all are in the same boast as the Zen master who, after contradicting himself several times in a row, said to the confused Doko, 'I cannot understand myself.”
― Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid
― Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid
“Historically, people have been naive about what qualities, if mechanized, would undeniably constitute intelligence. Is intelligence an ability to integrate functions symbolically? If so, then AI already exists, since symbolic integration routines outdo the best people in most cases.
If intelligence involves learning, creativity, emotional responses, a sense of beauty, a sense of self, then there is a long road ahead, and it may be that these will only be realized when we have totally duplicated a living brain.”
― Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid
If intelligence involves learning, creativity, emotional responses, a sense of beauty, a sense of self, then there is a long road ahead, and it may be that these will only be realized when we have totally duplicated a living brain.”
― Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid
“If words were nuts and bolts, people could make any bolt fit into any nut: they'd just squish the one into the other, as in some surrealistic painting where everything goes soft. Language, in human hands, becomes almost like a fluid, despite the coarse grain of its components.”
― Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid
― Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid
“It is an inherent property of intelligence that it can jump out of the task
which it is performing, and survey what it has done; it is always looking for,
and often finding, patterns. Now I said that an intelligence canjump out of
its task, but that does not mean that it always will. However, a little prompt-
ing will often suffice. For example, a human being who is reading a book
may grow sleepy. Instead of continuing to read until the book is finished,
he is just as likely to put the book aside and turn off the light. He has
stepped "out of the system" and yet it seems the most natural thing in the
world to us. Or, suppose person A is watching television when person B
comes in the room, and shows evident displeasure with the situation.
Person A may think he understands the problem, and try to remedy it by
exiting the present system (that television program), and flipping the chan-
nel knob, looking for a better show. Person B may have a more radical
concept of what it is to "exit the system"-namely to turn the television off!
Of course, there are cases where only a rare individual will have the vision
to perceive a system which governs many peoples' lives, a system which had
never before even been recognized as a system; then such people often
devote their lives to convincing other people that the system really is there,
and that it ought to be exited from!”
― Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid
which it is performing, and survey what it has done; it is always looking for,
and often finding, patterns. Now I said that an intelligence canjump out of
its task, but that does not mean that it always will. However, a little prompt-
ing will often suffice. For example, a human being who is reading a book
may grow sleepy. Instead of continuing to read until the book is finished,
he is just as likely to put the book aside and turn off the light. He has
stepped "out of the system" and yet it seems the most natural thing in the
world to us. Or, suppose person A is watching television when person B
comes in the room, and shows evident displeasure with the situation.
Person A may think he understands the problem, and try to remedy it by
exiting the present system (that television program), and flipping the chan-
nel knob, looking for a better show. Person B may have a more radical
concept of what it is to "exit the system"-namely to turn the television off!
Of course, there are cases where only a rare individual will have the vision
to perceive a system which governs many peoples' lives, a system which had
never before even been recognized as a system; then such people often
devote their lives to convincing other people that the system really is there,
and that it ought to be exited from!”
― Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid
“An amusing way to see the incorrectness of Lucas' argument is to translate it into a battle between men and women ... In his wanderings, Loocus the Thinker one day comes across an unknown object—a woman. Such a thing he has never seen before, and at first he is wondrous thrilled at her likeness to himself; but then, slightly scared of her as well, he cries to all the men about him, "Behold! I can look upon her face, which is something she cannot do—therefore women can never be like me!" And thus he proves man's superiority over women, much to his relief, and that of his male companions. Incidentally, the same argument proves that Loocus is superior to all other males, as well—but he doesn't point that out to them. The woman argues back: "Yes, you can see my face, which is something I can't do—but I can see your face, which is something you can't do! We're even." However, Loocus comes up with an unexpected counter: "I'm sorry, you're deluded if you think you can seemy face. What you women do is not the same as what we men do—it is, as I have already pointed out, of an inferior caliber, and does not deserve to be called by the same name. You may call it 'womanseeing'. Now the fact that you can 'womansee' my face is of no import, because the situation is not symmetric. You see?" "I woman-see," womanreplies the woman, and womanwalks away...”
― Godel, Escher, Bach: Een eeuwige gouden band
― Godel, Escher, Bach: Een eeuwige gouden band
“There exist formal systems whose negative space (set of non-theorems) is not the positive space (set of theorems) of any formal system.”
― Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid
― Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid
“The perception of an isomorphism between two known structures is a significant advance in knowledge-and I claim that it is such perceptions of isomorphism which create meanings in the minds of people.”
― Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid
― Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid
