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How did the White Witch give Edmund Turkish Delight if there is no Turkey in Narnia?

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Teressa Montana wrote: "I think Turkish Delight is a kind of dessert from the country of Turkey.
Then how did the Witch know about Turkish Delight at all being from Narnia? I think you brought up a good point that she ..."


The witch is not originally from Narnia but from the world Charn.

And as is stated in several of the books, there has been intercourse between our world and Narnia since the beginning of Narnia. The doors are closing, however.


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Banjomike Going slightly off topic here, since there were turkeys (the birds) in Narnia that would suggest that there was (had been) at least one door from America to Narnia. Where would that door have been and did Narnia have cranberries?


Teressa Banjomike wrote: "Going slightly off topic here, since there were turkeys (the birds) in Narnia that would suggest that there was (had been) at least one door from America to Narnia. Where would that door have been..."

Hmmm. . . interesting.


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kass um, HELLO. Turkish Delight ISN'T MADE OF TURKEY. It's a type of candy that probably originated in the COUNTRY Turkey.


Mimi ❤ Isn't Turkish Delight a sugary softish candy? I don't think that has anything to do with Turkey


Hazel Kassia wrote: "um, HELLO. Turkish Delight ISN'T MADE OF TURKEY. It's a type of candy that probably originated in the COUNTRY Turkey."

objectively, the question still works. The country turkey also does not exist within Narnia.


Lindsay On a related note, Turkish Delights are delicious. I can see why Edmund was willing to betray his family for them.


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kass Hazel wrote: "Kassia wrote: "um, HELLO. Turkish Delight ISN'T MADE OF TURKEY. It's a type of candy that probably originated in the COUNTRY Turkey."

objectively, the question still works. The country turkey also..."


Yes, I guess I see your point. I just wanted to get the point across that Turkish Delights does not ACTUALLY consist of the ingredient turkey.


Banjomike I could point out that the ingredient gelatine CAN actually be made from turkey (the bird). But I won't.


Teressa Banjomike wrote: "I could point out that the ingredient gelatine CAN actually be made from turkey (the bird). But I won't."

Oh, aren't you the clever one. ha ha


Shanna It's better rose flavoured in the recipe above replace the lemon rinds with a table spoon of rosewater (available at any good middle eastern grocery) you can also add nuts almonds(toasted) are my faves. I've also have Pomegranite Turkish Delight where my friend (you know the sort always cooking and baking) replaced the cooking water with Pom juice, it was delicious and apple where she did the same thing with apple juice it was good too.


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Banjomike Shanna wrote: "rosewater"

Avoid the artificial flavour versions of rosewater like the plague. Only buy something that mentions petals in the ingredients and DOESN'T mention "flavour" or "flavoring".


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C. J. Scurria Wow. Reading all this stuff is making me hungry for a treat! But I have no Turkish Delight. . . sadly.

Sounds good though.


Shanna Banjomike wrote: "Shanna wrote: "rosewater"

Avoid the artificial flavour versions of rosewater like the plague. Only buy something that mentions petals in the ingredients and DOESN'T mention "flavour" or "flavoring"."


Oh yes, take heed, all who plan to make Turkish Delight.


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Alex Farheen wrote: "Will wrote: "Well, the first king and queen were actually drawn into Narnia from Britain, so Christmas could have been introduced by them."

yaaaaaay i'm glad someone said it!



Philip Banjomike wrote: "Going slightly off topic here, since there were turkeys (the birds) in Narnia that would suggest that there was (had been) at least one door from America to Narnia."

The animals in Narnia were created independently by Aslan. They resemble Earth animals, but don't share ancestors with them. So no, there's no need to assume that.


Samuel Medina None of the above. I say the witch knew a very bad turkey who stole the recipe from a man in Crete... :P


Kill the Spare It's just the way there's probably no religion in Narnia, but there was Christmas..


Russell She had it specially imported by the Narnian Trans-reality Shipping Co.


Kill the Spare Russell wrote: "She had it specially imported by the Narnian Trans-reality Shipping Co."

Haha!


Ditas If you truly wanna know how Narnia had all the Earth holidays, and even the English language, then read Magician's Nephew. That's also where you'll find out how that lampstand that Lucy saw got there, where the wardrobe came from...even why Professor Kirke easily believed that Lucy found a forest in it. ^_^


Peter I just returned from hospital, you see, after reading this blog I was so confused that I stuffed my face full of delightful Turkey and ran into the back of my wardrobe.

No witch ! but I now have her nose.

I just wanted to make you all smile. :-)


Farheen you people are thinking too much.....just read and enjoy,if thats what it is meant for....and yes....Ditas is completely right.....


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J.J. Lair Alana wrote: "Lewis included a lot of things in Narnia that wouldn't be possible if they truly were separate places. Christmas, for example, is not possible without Jesus having had his birth there, but the unde..."

I agree. There were a few things that I just had to go with it and enjoy the story.


Rosa M. Edmond knew what Turkish Delight was, because there is a Turkey in Edmond's world. The witch just conjured it from his own desires. She uses his own desires and ambitions to ensnare him.


Matthew Ryan I think this thread is the product of analytic overkill. I was going to say more, but I'll just leave it at that.


Aisling Sarah wrote: "ϮAʛʛⅇℛʊℵʛ {Lerman Lover} wrote: "Well, I think her magic works on desire. Because Edmund knew specifically what he wanted, I think it allowed her magic to be able to produce it. Plus, he couldn't s..."

Exactly because they never said they didn't have turkey in Narnia


Janie a turkish delight is a gummy like subtance with tree nuts and powdered sugar on top. look it up and you dont need turkey to make turkish delights, its orgins are from the country turkey.


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Cat Turkish Delight isn't made of Turkey. It's like a jelly doughnut


Ladysw (Sara) I usually keep going back to the fridge, and lo, Turkish Delight appears eventually.


Magen deleted user wrote: "There's no turkey in Turkish Delight

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_..."


I think he is referring to the country Turkey, not the tasty Thanksgiving main course.


Rosa M. Temptation works because it uses our desires against us. Edmond loved the sweet treat (from the country of Turkey). The witch tempted him with a sweet reward and gained his trust. Then she could take him farther and farther down temptation's track. Evil gets around, folks. It finds us by knowing our desires better than we know ourselves. It's an allegory!


Shanna Juliana~The Story Of Amelia Pond wrote: "Turkish Delight is not made out of turkeys..."

There might be in the gelatine... :P


Shanna Juliana~The Story Of Amelia Pond wrote: "Shanna wrote: "Juliana~The Story Of Amelia Pond wrote: "Turkish Delight is not made out of turkeys..."

There might be in the gelatine... :P"

Not likely, and there isn't."


Why not? it's a by product of the meat industry animal bones, hides and intestines, why not turkey?


Peter OK People, here you go.

Turkish delight or Lokum is a family of confections based on a gel of starch and sugar. Premium varieties consist largely of chopped dates, pistachios and hazelnuts or walnuts bound by the gel; the cheapest are mostly gel, generally flavored with rosewater, mastic, or lemon. The confection is often packaged and eaten in small cubes dusted with icing sugar, copra, or powdered cream of Tartar, to prevent clinging. Other common types include such flavors as cinnamon and mint. In the production process, soapwort may be used as an emulsifying additive.

The sweet as it is known today was invented by Bekir Effendi, who moved from his hometown Kastamonu to Istanbul and opened his confectionery shop in 1776.
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Originally, honey and molasses were its sweeteners, and water and flour were the binding agents, with rosewater, lemon peel and bitter orange as the most common flavors (red, yellow and green). Lokum was introduced to Western Europe in the 19th century. An unknown Briton reputedly became very fond of the delicacy during his travels to Istanbul and purchased cases of it, to be shipped back to Britain under the name Turkish delight. It became a major delicacy in Britain and throughout Continental Europe for high class society. During this time, it became a practice among upper class socialites to exchange pieces of Turkish delight wrapped in silk handkerchiefs as presents.

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Farheen thats it.......the end if the discussion ..forget it


Shanna Farheen wrote: "thats it.......the end if the discussion ..forget it"
I doubt it :P It's been explained over and over not as indepth as Peter's, heck there has even been a recipe offered ....


Farheen I would have asked Lewis if he was alive:P......
But he's not...:-(


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C. J. Scurria Peter wrote: "I just returned from hospital, you see, after reading this blog I was so confused that I stuffed my face full of delightful Turkey and ran into the back of my wardrobe.

No witch ! but I now have h..."


Haha. That is funny. :D


Donald Ross The popularity of Turkish delight is the reason for the lack of turkeys. Chicken and the egg thing.


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Connie Are you that dense...


Donald Ross Fantasy anything goes.


Sofia Turkish Delight isn't made with turkey, it's made with gelatine and rosewater and other disgusting stuff.


Library Nymph Gabriel wrote: "Did I just start a paradox?"

Quite simple . . . magic! :)


Aashwini she is a which n her magil just brought edmunds imagination to reality ...


Samantha Turkish delight is actually gummies, like the gummy bears we have today, only they may have been in squares and may have been homemade.


Donald Ross Never actually had Turkish Delight, Don't think I've even seen any.


James The book itself explains this very clearly. The witch drew the image out of Edmund's head, and actually commented on how interesting the food from his world was.


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May Abbey They also speak English in Narnia. The children have no trouble understanding them or being understood even though they're from different worlds. I think it's simply a child's book that is meant to relate an idea of good and evil and temptation, not be as realitic as possible. Good qestion, though.


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Ginni Because she is magical and evil so she had to tempt him with something so he chose Turkish Delight.


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