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TEAM SETH!

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message 201: by Stormy (last edited Apr 21, 2012 04:19PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Stormy The only point in arguing that is if Alex had a problem with it and she didn't so it's pointless.

That's true but he's not going to do that with the breed order still in effect. Meanwhile, there's Seth. If Seth can't make her happy in Deity, than she deserves Aiden and the wait and heartache up until the time where they can be together.


message 202: by Rasmus (new) - rated it 3 stars

Rasmus Or they could run away together :) But yes your right if things does not change in Deity, she does deserve Aiden though the way you put it seems like its the lesser option.


message 203: by Stormy (new) - rated it 5 stars

Stormy Aiden is too reputable and noble to run away.


message 204: by Rasmus (new) - rated it 3 stars

Rasmus One does crasy things for love.


message 205: by Stormy (new) - rated it 5 stars

Stormy not yet he doesn't...


message 206: by Rasmus (new) - rated it 3 stars

Rasmus The tedious love traingle has to drag out, still 3 more books to go.


message 207: by Brie (new) - rated it 5 stars

Brie The fact that it's taking him so long to make the decision to be with Alex is kind of a turn off... I think anyway.


message 208: by Stormy (new) - rated it 5 stars

Stormy Yeah, that's it for me, too.


message 209: by Rasmus (new) - rated it 3 stars

Rasmus Agreed, Crossing my fingers she stays with seth or aiden next book with no back and forth.


message 210: by Stormy (new) - rated it 5 stars

Stormy *crosses fingers* Seth, you can do it, baby!


message 211: by Stormy (new) - rated it 5 stars

Stormy It's crazy I'm defending Seth in like 3 threads. What is it that makes people dislike him so much? LOL


message 212: by Rasmus (new) - rated it 3 stars

Rasmus Well he is easy to dislike i could name reasons(but that would be pointless) but if you side with Alex as i do, i will also side with Aiden since she has the stronger feelings for him. If that changes (in a manner that is good and makes sense) and she end up with Seth i will be happy since i dont give two sh**s and a dog fart who she ends up with aslong as she in the end is happy.


message 213: by Stormy (last edited Apr 21, 2012 07:04PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Stormy Hmmmm...okay...I still don't see why everyone believes he's a bad character or a bad match for Alex other than Alex's love for Aiden. Seth isn't getting in the way of that. Not really, because one, she and Aiden can't be together and two, Aiden isn't going to be with her secretly because it's too much of a risk for both of them. So what? In the end it's more likely for her to be with Aiden. That's no harm to anyone but Seth and yeah, it's love between Aiden and Alex but still, Seth is not at all a bad choice for her. I fail to see a reason Aiden is so great for her other than their love for one another. As far as her happiness and qualities go, Aiden is lacking, IMO.


message 214: by Stormy (new) - rated it 5 stars

Stormy And of course, I side with Alex and will like her no matter who she chooses but if she goes about it the wrong way, I can't say that I will like her as much as I did at the start. She would just be another Rose from VA, to me.


message 215: by Rasmus (last edited Apr 21, 2012 08:08PM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

Rasmus I found Seth to be a good match for the blond. I have a feeling she will become friends with Alex in the next book (The one who gets in fights with Alex forgot her name) Maybe thats just me though.

"I fail to see a reason Aiden is so great for her other than their love for one another."
Do you need another reason why he is so great for her since you just provided the sole reason you should infact be with someone. I dont find Aiden lacking in any sense, other then he should just have sealed the deal in book 1 and saved me the trouble of reading a series with a triangle in it.


Seth just isnt the right one for her and it should be obvious.
"“She’s not for you,” she murmured over the rim of her glass. The slight, knowing smile of hers didn’t fade. I didn’t even want to know how she knew."


message 216: by Ilana (new) - rated it 5 stars

Ilana I get y you guys are team Seth but I'm die hard team aiden.


message 217: by Stormy (last edited Apr 21, 2012 08:15PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Stormy "I found Seth to be a good match for the blond (The one who gets in fights with Alex forgot her name) Maybe thats just me though."

Stereotypically that would be a great match. Lea and Seth would make a great hook up, sure. But it seems like your calling Seth shallow and he showed a lot of depth in Pure and I'm sure that Lea will, too in Deity.

You should not be with someone just because you love them. What if they are no good for you? That is not really a valid answer to me. That's what abused girls say about their abusive boyfriends. "Why do you stay with him?" "Because I love him." Uh, no. I don't REMEMBER Alex giving reasons for her infatuation with Aiden other than his attractiveness and how she admires him that he become a Sentinel even though he was a Pure. The Sentinel thing and the loss of their parents is the only things connecting them. I just feel like she has a lot more in common with Seth.

"“She’s not for you,” she murmured over the rim of her glass. The slight, knowing smile of hers didn’t fade. I didn’t even want to know how she knew."

Yes, I remember Laadan saying that though I don't know what for. I thought she and Seth were fated to be together and it's not like she's for Aiden when they are forbidden to be together. It makes no sense.


message 218: by Stormy (last edited Apr 21, 2012 08:21PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Stormy Ilana wrote: "I get y you guys are team Seth but I'm die hard team aiden."

I'm die hard Team Seth, but it's nice for someone on Team Aiden to GET IT. :)


message 219: by Rasmus (last edited Apr 21, 2012 08:52PM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

Rasmus Im not saying Seth is shallow just because i think there a good match, I think as you said Lea will be in Deity and we will find out who she really is and turn out to be a good match for Seth.

No you shouldnt be with someone who beats you just because you love them. But Aiden is good for Alex even if you dont see that, he helped her, trained her, made sure she kept out of trouble and was all around a great guy in book 1(and he wasnt bad in book 2 either) he took care of her so much in book 1 but that seems to be forgotten. Making the comparison you have hold no ground what so ever since its so far fetched to believe Adrian is not good for.

Maybe Alex and Seth have more in common, but Adrian grounds her and his opposites to her is what makes him such a good match. Where Alex would punch someone, Adrian would tell her to let it go. Where i see Seth being exactly like Alex in that regard. Maybe in personalities Seth and Alex are more alike and there both the apollyon thats it, that does not make Seth a better match in any sense of the matter. Infact Aiden has all the qualities that would help Alex since he is cool to where she is hot so to say.

She said it simply because she is not for him, maybe she can see the love between Aiden and Alex(maybe it reminded her of Alex's mother and father) Seth's thought after "I didnt even want to know how she knew" wonder me alot more though. Since it seems Seth actually knows Alex is not for him.

Seth and Alex werent fated to be in love, they were fated because Seth needs the power Alex can give him when she awakens nothing more. And she is for Aiden, forbidden or not it didnt stop her mother from being with the man she loved why should it stop her daughter. It does makes sense when you look past personal preference you can love Seth all you want it does not change the fact Adrian is great for Alex, as im sure Seth would also be if it came to that.


message 220: by Stormy (last edited Apr 21, 2012 09:08PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Stormy Okay, so the beating thing wasn't right to say but my point was just because you love someone doesn't mean that you should be with them or that they are right for you. I liked Aiden in the first book, it was in the second book that I dislike him because he takes her out to the zoo, and I see that as him doing something nice for her to show her that he cares and they have a wonderful time, but then when she confesses her feeling he's pretty harsh in turning her down. I understand that it was for their own good and all that but then after a while of being away he tries to get close to her again, the night of the ball, and then with the brew and then ends up turning her down all over again. It's so up and down, it's annoying and he's only hurting her more. He's making her think that she dreamed up the whole thing.

Yeah, but Aiden comes across as lecturing her where as Seth lets her be herself and understands her actions better. I don't think that she and Seth are alike JUST because they are both Apollyon's.

Maybe your right, though it still confuses me.

I don't understand why all the power goes to Seth? Why can't there be two of them equally? What does Seth need the power for? Alex was drawing power from him in Pure, I figure she will be the one who will need it in the end. And her Mom was really with Lucian, not Alex's father, whoever and wherever he is...

You put Adrian instead of Aiden in most of that...LOL

And as hopeless as this arguement might be because I am positive Aiden will be chosen, I still like Seth better. He's not boring. LOL


message 221: by Stormy (new) - rated it 5 stars

Stormy Anyway, it's Alex's love life and not mine, I know that she will chose who is best for her in the end. I just know that I would chose someone like Seth. I love their interactions with each other and I like a guy that makes me laugh, not cry. And I'm sure that my maternal side came out at the nice, caring, change in Seth for Alex, whereas Aiden didn't need to change because he's practically perfect. I like that Seth is vulnerable, I find it more appealing. So, I just simply like Seth more and I don't see how she wouldn't fall for him even a little bit. I wouldn't mind all of this talking if it wasn't for the fact that people seem to think that Seth isn't good enough for her.


message 222: by Rasmus (last edited Apr 21, 2012 09:47PM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

Rasmus I get what it is you wanted to point out but it still holds no ground, since love is very good reason to be with someone and since Aiden isnt bad for her it holds no ground, he is only bad in the sense its forbidden thats the sole reason. Besides that he is right for her so love is a very good reason for Alex to be with him. I agree that what he is doing is hurting her, but its what is needed. Trying to get close the her i get, though its annoying that its up and down but i get why he wants to be close to her because even though you deny feelings there still there.

As to Aiden lecturing, that is exactly what she needed in book 1 she needed someone to keep an eye on her he was her teacher leacturing is what they do. I think Aiden understand her just fine and lets her be herself, since Alex dosnt change when with Aiden or after he has lectured her we can safely presume he lets her be herself. I also said Seth and Alex were very similar in personalities not just because there Apollyons. As much alike as they are, "opposites attract" so i still think Aiden is the best choice.

It says that the first Apollyon draws or siphons the power of the second, as her mom says "he will suck you dry" that was the reason she ran away in the first place. In pure Seth was either sending her power or she was infact drawing power from him, but she is not fully awakend yet so at best its speculation.
Her Mom was with Alex's father, yes she was married to Lucian but she did not love him.

It is be pointless in the sense it will not change the outcome but i rather like discussion. Yes Seth is fun to read about but i do think calling Aiden boring is abit spiteful:b

I even had to correct this text once for Adrian, no idea why that name popped in my head all of a sudden god dammit.


message 223: by Rasmus (last edited Apr 21, 2012 10:32PM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

Rasmus Stormy wrote: "Anyway, it's Alex's love life and not mine, I know that she will chose who is best for her in the end. I just know that I would chose someone like Seth. I love their interactions with each other an..."

Seth is good for her, he is simply just not good enough in comparison, i dont doubt if it somehow ends up being seth that it is the right choice. What i also see here is that you like this guy way to much and it would be a moot point to convince you Aiden is better for Alex :b


message 224: by Stormy (new) - rated it 5 stars

Stormy All may be true but either boys would be good for her. I just feel her connection with Seth much more than her love with Aiden. I like the way they interact better. Alex is all the more aware of Aiden and it trips her up and it was like that from the beginning. She's herself around Seth and I love her like that. I don't want to hear about how hot Aiden is every time they are in the same room. I would rather hear about how annoying and aggravating Seth is to her. I love how Alex and Seth argue. It's not even real fights like she has with Aiden. It's those cute little fights that mean nothing but it's so aggravating and stimulating that you just want to kiss the crap out of them to shut them up! They are just alike, they understand each other in a way I don't think that Aiden ever could, they just fit. He doesn't try to change her.

He's so hilarious and egotistical an he can be a jerk but he's got a soft side that he doesn't show for anyone but Alex. He's growing. From the beginning of Pure to the end Seth grew up immensely. I could hardly believe it. There was no more fooling around with girls or slinking away to do gods knows what. There was only Alex. I loved that vulnerable side of him that cuddled and caressed her face and came to her aid ready to fight and kill anyone who messed with her. God! What a lucky girl! <3 Anyway, I'm swooning.

Point being, there is no reason why Seth shouldn't be a reasonable and serious competitor for Alex's heart. Aiden doesn't have her heart in the bag yet, and until then, I will have hope despite whatever odds are against him.

Ha ha. I've called him Adrian before, too.


message 225: by Stormy (new) - rated it 5 stars

Stormy And if she doesn't pick him...I hope JLA gets to that spin-off series ASAP.


message 226: by Stormy (new) - rated it 5 stars

Stormy LOL I think you are right. There is no convincing me, I'm a little obsessed.


message 227: by Rasmus (last edited Apr 21, 2012 10:33PM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

Rasmus I get it, dont get me wrong i do. But i also see alot of "I like" "I love" and Alot of personal opinion here and since when you discuss you look impassive and rational. "there was no fooling around with other girls" is not quite true though since Seth did have sex in pure soo yeeee, lets ask Aiden if he has had any from book one till now :p.

I got one question here to test if you can choose right without letting emotions get in the way of rational thinking :b.
Only assume from book 1 and 2 not ahead (You have two houses in one Aiden the Other Seth) Where do you put Alex?


message 228: by Stormy (new) - rated it 5 stars

Stormy I thought this whole thread was about personal opinion. You like Aiden and Alex's relationship better and I like Seth and Alex's relationship better. Who is best for her is up to her and only their actions from here on out in Deity, Apollyon, and Sentinel can determinate that. And Um, that's what I said that he went from having sex with random girls to not having sex. I was pointing out the change in him.

I don't see the point in your question because I'm assuming that you would think I would put her in Seth's house and I would if I wanted some fantasy but I also wouldn't put her in Aiden's because...I don't like him much...so that leaves me leaving her in the middle for her to choose and hoping that she chooses Seth.


message 229: by Rasmus (last edited Apr 21, 2012 10:52PM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

Rasmus Well maybe the thread is indeed personal opinion, but i tried to convey some straight thinking, I also dont like either relationship i like who Alex likes its has nothing to with either of Seth or Aiden personalities. Ah ok sorry thought you meant he didnt get any in pure at all.

Point of question was for you to pick where you think Alex would like to be placed without your own opinions about Aiden or Seth. Wanted to see if it was possible to get you to choose Aiden just once :b


message 230: by Stormy (last edited Apr 21, 2012 10:57PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Stormy Oh, I get what you meant about the sex thing now. It doesn't matter. Most guys have flings and sex like that because it leaves they feel loved and intimate with another person for a moment and the closer and more he was feeling for Alex he would have no reason to do that any longer. There is nothing said about Aiden's sexual background so, you can't really compare but your right, I doubt that he's had sex since them almost doing it.


message 231: by Rasmus (last edited Apr 21, 2012 11:03PM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

Rasmus Loved and intimate, he got caught doing it dosnt seem intimate to me seems more like he just needed some stress release afaik :b.


message 232: by Stormy (last edited Apr 21, 2012 11:03PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Stormy LOL I'm not choosing Aiden for anything but an ass kicking as of right now because I am pissed about how he's going about this whole mess but maybe in the future I might pick him for something...like...for the Ya-sisterhood tournament but until he does something to make me like him better, he's stuck with the ass kicking. :) He's got about an inch of liking after what he did for Alex at the end of Pure....better than nothing.
LOL


message 233: by Stormy (new) - rated it 5 stars

Stormy LOL okay...maybe.


message 234: by Rasmus (new) - rated it 3 stars

Rasmus I really should have known that would happen emotions always triumph, you are the victor i concede. Cant blame a bloke for trying though :b.

And if you dont mind me asking What the f**k is Ya-sisterhood tournament ?


message 235: by Stormy (new) - rated it 5 stars

Stormy Check it out:
http://ya-sisterhood.blogspot.com/201...
It's on a blog, they put up polls with characters and people vote who they like best.


message 236: by Rasmus (new) - rated it 3 stars

Rasmus Seems like a moot point voting, havnt even read all those books + Tucker from Hallowed win by default anyway:b alright im off was fun in a painless pain sorta way:p


message 237: by Stormy (new) - rated it 5 stars

Stormy *whew* I'm just glad it's over. Too bad it's the same on two other threads....


message 238: by M. (last edited Apr 25, 2012 09:03AM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

M. I think everyone in this thread who is team Seth is a glutton for punishment (myself included, lol) because it's obvious that Alex and Aiden will end up together. Jennifer has the oracle spilling all the beans in book one. Didn't she tell Alex to not confuse need with love? And then on Pure, every time Alex and Seth were together, the word need kept popping up. Plus, she gave us Seth's POV showing that he knows that what he feels for Alex has to do partly with their bond - a fact that he denied to Alex.
I wouldn't mind Aiden that much if he didn't keep putting Alex at risk by touching her all the time, or giving her hopes. If they got caught nothing would happen to him but she would become a mindless slave. Also the message I get from their relationship is how wrong it really is. Come on, it's the 21st century and we still have to suffer through a girl willing to throw her life away because of a guy? Give me a break! If there is a relationship that is more based in need is the one Alex and Aiden have. It's like they are addicted to each other. I don't see the love.


message 239: by Ilana (new) - rated it 5 stars

Ilana Michelle wrote: "I think everyone in this thread who is team Seth is a glutton for punishment (myself included, lol) because it's obvious that Alex and Aiden will end up together. Jennifer has the oracle spilling a..."

i agree that a lot of the thing with Seth is about the 'need' and with aiden, it's the romance that shouldn't be had but you know inevitably will. he's the one that has the past with her and will continue to be there. i just keep thinking back to the ZOO. you can't say that there's no lasting connection after that right?


Bridget Ilana wrote: "Michelle wrote: "I think everyone in this thread who is team Seth is a glutton for punishment (myself included, lol) because it's obvious that Alex and Aiden will end up together. Jennifer has the ..."

:-( i know but who do u think the oracle ment he plays both sides? and i think seth truthfully likes alex


message 241: by M. (new) - rated it 3 stars

M. Bridget wrote: "Ilana wrote: "Michelle wrote: "I think everyone in this thread who is team Seth is a glutton for punishment (myself included, lol) because it's obvious that Alex and Aiden will end up together. Jen..."

It could be anyone but I just hope it's not Seth. That would be a pisser!


message 242: by M. (last edited Apr 25, 2012 01:36PM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

M. Ilana wrote: "Michelle wrote: "I think everyone in this thread who is team Seth is a glutton for punishment (myself included, lol) because it's obvious that Alex and Aiden will end up together. Jennifer has the ..."

I hated Aiden for the whole zoo thing and not because I like Seth better. It was an idiotic thing to do to just give Alex a dream date when he knew they could never be together. I know that he had good intentions, but hey, the road to hell is paved with good intentions and he only made things much worst for Alex. I kept thinking why are you playing with her emotion you douche? lol
I would have respected Aiden more if he had removed himself from the picture all together. Then I would have believed in his love for Alex and I could actually start to root for them. It would mean he had a deeper love. Right now his actions just reflect passion, she got under his skin, like he said. The only thing he did right was at the end of Pure when he took care of the witnesses. Although, I think that Seth's solution would have been better even if it was harsher.


Kathlyn OMG this thread has gone so long I can't follow it anymore. haha! sorry! I'm consumed by the world of Vampire Academy right now, and honestly, reading about Dmitri makes me hate Aiden more. Yeah Covenant and VA is so alike and I just can't help but notice how Dmitri acts so matured and admirable in handling his circumstance with Rose compared with Aiden to Alex.

Anyway, reading the blurb again, I think Seth is the one would do anything to protect her. Idk why but I have a feeling that if Seth won't end with Alex, Seth wud sacrifice his life for her. I just hope I'm wrong. I wish Aiden wud die instead :P


message 244: by Stormy (new) - rated it 5 stars

Stormy Seth would do anything to protect her. Remember when Alex stopped the Pure from hitting the servant and Seth stepped in? He was about ready to kill the Pure. That would have caused an outright war but Alex managed to calm him down, thank goodness. But everyone is looking at Aiden did at the end of Pure to be so heroic. Both boys would put their lives on the line for her.


message 245: by Megan (new) - rated it 5 stars

Megan being certified Seth lovers, I really REALLY hope we don't get crushed in the end...
I mean it's like an inevitable curse laid upon every awesome second lead guy


message 246: by M. (new) - rated it 3 stars

M. Megan wrote: "being certified Seth lovers, I really REALLY hope we don't get crushed in the end...
I mean it's like an inevitable curse laid upon every awesome second lead guy"


I know! I hate when the heroines have a one track mind like Alex - if I can't have the guy a luv I don't want anybody else. It makes me wonder if the reason Alex is so hung up on Aiden is because he is forbidden fruit.
And I have to agree with Kathlyn here about the differences between Dimitri and Aiden. I think Dimitri is the guy Aiden wants to be but unfortunately his immaturity gets in the way.
I was just reading Smokeless Fire by Samantha Young and the heroine was so in love with one boy that she was a complete doormat. Fortunately, she wakes up.
Not happening in Covenant, Alex will always maintain Aiden on a pedestal.


message 247: by Rasmus (new) - rated it 3 stars

Rasmus This whole thread is Ludicrous!!


message 248: by Amina (new) - rated it 5 stars

Amina Exactly!! Just because Seth jokes dont mean he is a Joke...peolpe need to take him seriously. Its not just the brooding types that can act as the knight in shining armour...that type is far too overrated...Seth is new and fresh.
And think about it guys Aiden is the main person who has hurt Alex most throughout the two books...Seth has only been there to comnfort and support and make Alex's life more fun...

Why would youroot for the guy who has hurt the main character the most!?!?


Charmaine Definitely


message 250: by Janae (new) - rated it 5 stars

Janae I am now on the Seth train, he is the best for her and once she realizes it they will be a team to be reckoned with.
But if she doesn't choose him I am going to cry for him because he's been there for so long, and will be so hurt for her to just cast him off as not even there.
Amina, Kathlyn, Stormy, and Michelle are right in saying that he has been there, will be there and isn't playing around, I mean he laid himself bare for her. Aiden can go sit in a corner and do other..stuff.


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