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LOL DG, that is a perfect way for him to learn. I tend to be very empathetic and forgive many things, but some things cross the line and I cannot forgive. They are not eating me up, but I am fine with the fact that I will never ever forgive those people (in this case former work colleagues that betrayed me and caused my family to suffer as a result). I never think about them, but I would never ever let them back into my life again.
That's exactly the way I feel, Regina.
D.G. ~Captain Hussy~ wrote: "That's why I say I'm nasty, Sarah. I can live my life perfectly happy without forgiving a person. :) I have a switch I can turn off until people no longer matter."
Wow, that's pretty heavy. I don't hold grudges; life's too short for such things. But I do forgive them. I always think that people mess up because they are not perfect and you have to accept that fact. But I don't forget. I can forgive you but I don't think I could get back to the same feeling I had with that person before he messed up bad.
A few years later we were on friendly terms and he invited me out for coffee. It turned out that his best friend in the world did the same to him. He was heartbroken in a way a woman could ever have hurt him.
I didn't laugh but I wanted to. It still feels me up with glee.
Really you're still on friendly terms? I couldn't be friends with an ex - too much baggage involved.
Karma's a b***h right? I could just feel your glee while hearing your ex telling you that. And your ex - doesn't he have any kind of pride? Didn't he know that he did the exact thing to you years ago? Or he just has no idea?
But you're not that nasty as you would want us to believe - if you're really that nasty you should have laughed right at his face! Pouring salt in an open wound, I dare say. :)
My definition of forgiveness means that I will give the person another chance. If I can't treat them like before, then I'm not sure that's forgiving (but that's me.)We were on friendly terms a couple of years later - we were from the same set (had tons of friends in common, went to same places) so it was difficult to avoid each other completely. Worse, after he dumped me I got a job down the corner of his business so I had to get off a stop before just so I didn't have to walk pass the business (just looking at the place hurt me terribly.)
But yes, he invited me because he wanted me to commiserate about his friend - we had been really good friends and I don't know if he ever felt as comfortable talking to another woman like he felt with me.
D.G. ~Captain Hussy~ wrote: "My definition of forgiveness means that I will give the person another chance. If I can't treat them like before, then I'm not sure that's forgiving (but that's me.)We were on friendly terms a co..."
What I mean is that okay you're my friend; you must messed up with me - I got hurt and I will forgive you because you're not perfect and you're my friend but I can't kid myself that I could have the easy relationship that I have with her prior to the mess-up - there will be tension on my side. I'll still respect him as a person but I think the friendly feeling is quite affected. It'll probably a long time before I can get there again, if ever.
You were probably really close before the break-up if he is comfortable enough to confess such a thing. You have quite an interesting relationship there huh. Even though it happened years later, good for you for being a friendly ex. It really is unthinkable to me.
Kay wrote: "I finished 
last night and really liked it. I liked this authored before but this book really won me over."YAY!! I'm a huge Brockmann fan now. Cant wait for you to read Into the Night.
I'm personally looking forward to Alyssa and Sams book :)
I think you can forgive a person and still move on from them. To me, forgiveness is gaining your power back. You don't give them permission to hurt you anymore. You let go of what's been done to you and keep going in your own direction.People can make themselves sick if they don't forgive and let things fester.
Finished
and I liked it but didn't seem to love it the way everyone else did. Maybe because I liked First Days so much, that I was hoping for more zombie action in this book and TINAT was more contemplative in nature.
Oh and started
. I got about 10% in and the book is already driving me batty. The writing is so sloppy and there's so much repetitive wording and descriptions going on. I really hope it picks up.
Oh boy! I'm cringing because I don't think you'll like it!I don't know what to say about forgiveness. I would like to say that I always forgive but there are times when i've been so hurt by friends that it's better to just move one and not have contact with them. Not that forgiveness means you have to still stay in contact with that person. I just hate the uneasy feeling you get when that person is around. Ugh, hate that feeling.
I think everyone is using a different definition of forgive, lol.
I might end up liking it Leea. I'm not that far in. So far I'll have to agree with the the review that I saw where it was pointed out how the author starts far too many sentences with the word "I." That's not good. The name brand and clothing thing is also throwing me off, but there's a chance that this might be something that isn't as noticeable once the story kicks in.Because the book is one I'm reading with a group of people, I will probably give it a fair shot. Who knows, it might really hook me later.
Regina wrote: "I think everyone is using a different definition of forgive, lol."Very true. :) I can do all that Stacia said without actually forgiving. Just turn the switch to 'off.' :p
But coming back to the book, whatever your definition of forgiving, I think it would be a really difficult situation to deal with. Even if you think you could forgive the guy, can you ever really trust that he would be there when you need them. I mean this is a BIG MISTAKE that took a lot of deliberation. I can forgive easier when people do things at the spur of the moment, but giving a woman an ultimatum - pick the baby or me, it's a BIG DEAL.
And btw...what did he want her to do with the baby if she chose him? Have an abortion? Give her up for adoption? Because that's the choice you want the man you love to make for you!
D.G. ~Captain Hussy~ wrote: "And btw...what did he want her to do with the baby if she chose him? Have an abortion? Give her up for adoption? Because that's the choice you want the man you love to make for you! "I don't think this gets into spoiler territory since it is part of the prologue, but I'll tag it anyhow.
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I finished the book,
, and must say I am really conflicted about how I feel about it. Probably a 3-3.5 stars. Hard to imagine but at first you really want to kick the cr*p out of the guy. But by the end of the book you feel the same way about the girl. Not many books can make me do a 180. Kay hit the mark when she said they were totally effed up.
Kelly wrote: "Hard to imagine but at first you really want to kick the cr*p out of the guy. But by the end of the book you feel the same way about the girl. Not many books can make me do a 180. Kay hit the mark when she said they were totally effed up. "Hmm...that's interesting. And to think what he did was so effed up. Did he pursue her again?
I am thinking if I'm on her shoes if he repents OK fine, be a dad to the kid but leave ME alone.
I couldn't resist I had to check my Nook to see if
was available for purchase and sure enough it was. I bought it now I can't wait to start reading it. Woo Hoo!!!
That is some cover Marcella!I just bought the audio and switched to audio for
, I was reading it and it was good but I have trouble reading print books anymore -- I need it on my ereader or listening to it.
Regina, I have yet to listen to a book. I'm not sure why I haven't caved on this but just haven't had the desire yet. Heard that there are some really good audios. Any favorite narrator of yours?
Regina wrote: "I have trouble reading print books anymore -- I need it on my ereader or listening to it. "I'm the same, Regina. Specially for reading at night, I really have problems with print books because we like the dark (my husband and I were bats in another life) so I hate turning on lights to read.
I listen to ton of audio but not much romance. Do you read other genres, Kelly?I would recommend you the Robert Petkoff narration of the IAD series but I don't know if you read PNR and I admit the books are not that good (at least I don't think they are.) But I'm in love with the narration and can't stop listening!
Kelly, you're in luck because Regina and D.G. are avid (almost said rabid, lol!) audio book readers or listeners. haha! They have the best advice... D.G. now I just have this picture of you and your husband hanging from the ceiling with books. lol!
Sorry, i'm in a strange mood this morning and my thoughts are not messing.
Okay, I'm about 82% finished with Into the Night and I like it but I just haven't really connected with Mike and Joan. At this point I feel like it's all coming to a head and something is going to change by the end of this book. I'm so in love with Max, how protective he is of Alyssa. Another story I can't wait to read.
LMAO Leea. Leea, reading your post is like reading my mind/thoughts on that book!Kelly, I would start with a book you want to read and try it out -- from the library. I load CDs up to my computer and transfer them to my ipod/iphone and I download audio from my overdrive library. I just try one. If I don't connect with the narrator (it happens) I discard and I try a different book (or different narrator for same book - -classics are often done multiple times/versions). I don't really hunt down narrators, I just choose a book and start. I find that I don't do well with high or epic fantasy in narration, too detailed and I miss stuff.
Leea wrote: "D.G. now I just have this picture of you and your husband hanging from the ceiling with books. lol!"LMAO! **tears streaming down my face**
Loved that image! I'll have to tell my husband. He'll get a kick out of it.
I don't know what to read after Into the night? Might start
. I've been reading a lot of contemporaries lately. I haven't read a UF book in a long time. Regina, you doing any better? I know you cannot comment on what's going on but how are you emotionally doing? :)
I am still waiting on the first work issue. But it has now faded due to dealing with the stress of caring for the hubby and working from home -- and managing the kids schedule. Thank you for asking. :) It has been rough, no reading really but I am hanging in there.
D.G. ~Captain Hussy~ wrote: "Leea wrote: "D.G. now I just have this picture of you and your husband hanging from the ceiling with books. lol!"LMAO! **tears streaming down my face**
Loved that image! I'll have to tell my hu..."
Okay I missed that, but that is damned funny.
Thanks ladies. I'll have to give my library a shot. I haven't been there in ages. I guess they do have virtual libraries you can access as well, but I've never done that.D.G. what is the IAD series? I do read some PNR (mostly still romantic, though) and I also like reading some horror/sci-fi (Lincoln Child/Douglas Preston).
IAD = Immortals After Dark by Kresley Cole. The books are cheesy but the narrator is amazing. :)If you have an ereader, Kelly you may want to check out your library. Now most libraries have downloadable ebooks/audiobooks so you may be able to supplement your reading from there.
And if you start one and find you don't like the narration, just let it go and pick something else. The narrator is crucial to an audio and if he/she's not working for you, it may ruin a good book.
Regina wrote: "I am still waiting on the first work issue. But it has now faded due to dealing with the stress of caring for the hubby and working from home -- and managing the kids schedule. Thank you for aski..."I've been thinking of you the whole weekend, Regina. How's your husband doing?
He is now able to get to the bathroom (uncrutches) which is HUGE, lol. He insisted on going to the 2nd play-off tball game (he is the coach) yesterday -- we won! But he can't do anything else. So right now I am working from home, a teenager just two my 2 middle kids to swimming, and my youngest is playing with puzzles next to my husband. I am cooking, cleaning, caring for the kids and trying to work 12 hours a day -- plus care for the man. I am hoping he is greatly improved by the end of the week. We see a specialist on Friday for a full diagnosis. He really wants to be active again (he is an athlete) so I am hoping it is something easy and a quick recovery. But thank good ness for the narcotics and ice. It has been a lifesaver for him. Thanks for asking.
Regina, he must feel so bad. I'd be pissed, I know you shouldn't but with so much going on and 4 kids, you need him. Can you hire like a teenager to help you, clean, cook meals, take care of the kids? I'll be hoping for a quick recovery. You can do it! Just don't worry if the house is a mess or if stuff does not get done. Remember as long as the kids are safe and fed, that's all that matters :)
Regina wrote: "That is some cover Marcella!I just bought the audio and switched to audio for [bookcover:A Bad Day for Mercy: A Crime Novel], I was reading it and it was good but I have trouble reading print boo..."
I know right Regina! It sure is something. I can't wait to dig into this book. I just love this author.
Kelly, audio books weren't really my thing before and I'm slowly warming up to it.I'm currently listening to
. I started
last night and I'm about 17% in. It's ok so far. I also started
this morning and I'm really liking it so far.
Regina, I think I missed the post that said your husband is laidup. You surely deserve Super Woman status. I can't imagine the amount of stress it is to juggle it all. But it sounds like you are and doing amazing! I'll keep sending good vibes to you and hope that they help.
Like I always say....Regina's SUPERMOM!
D.G. ~Captain Hussy~ wrote: "IAD = Immortals After Dark by Kresley Cole. The books are cheesy but the narrator is amazing. :)"D.G. thanks for the heads up. I've heard about these books from so many people. Even if they are cheesy, it sounds like there is something there to keep everyone coming back for more. I'll have to give them a shot then. Plus, I'll look for Robert Petkoff. I've heard so many times that the narrator can make or break the book, even if it is a horrible or phenomenal.
Hmm! I think I just got shunned by another group.
I love IAD. It's one of my fave PNRs next to BDB. It's fun, snarky and sexy. I just love the world that Cole has created and how all the Immortals are connected in some way. The downside is that she only has one IAD new release a year :(
Marcella wrote: "Hmm! I think I just got shunned by another group."What happened, Marcella?
You guys make me smile. Thank you so much. I really needed it. I really enjoyed Hunger Like No Other. I agree that most PNR is cheesy, but some of it I do enjoy. :D Others I don't. Cole somehow was able to help me enjoy it. I keep meaning to go on to #2.
Kay that is a slow schedule for many authors now a days! I just read an article by an author talking about the new pressure on authors to publish more often than before, b/c people are reading faster than ever before with ereaders, etc.
Kay wrote: "Like I always say....Regina's SUPERMOM!"Awww! Kay I needed this. I think my 8 year would disagree in this very moment though.
Marcella what happened?
Regina wrote: "He is now able to get to the bathroom (uncrutches) which is HUGE, lol. He insisted on going to the 2nd play-off tball game (he is the coach) yesterday -- we won! But he can't do anything else. So..."OMG, Regina! You are a superwoman! And you're cooking too? If I were you, I'd be ordering take out for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
DG, I just had peapod deliver food (which my husband tied to his routine and grocery stores grumbled about), but hey! I have to survive. I would order out and I might for some meals, but, lol -- feeding 6 people is expensive. It is like a restaurant here. 2 kids want scrambled eggs, another one wants a bagel and another reheated chicken from last night. No wonder my husband never has time to clean the house. He is too lenient with that.
Long story short we had a group read, the girls I was reading with didn't seem to like it and they wanted to stretch out the read. I told them I decided to read the series on my own because I wanted a faster pace. One of the girls got upset with me saying the reason we were reading the series because of me. Ever since then when I post things on the threads in the group I get nothing. And before when I wouldn't post for a while I would read posts asking if anyone heard from me. I just checked, some of the girls were asking about other girls in the group but not one mention of me.
Not sure if I am being paranoid but ever since I went on my own with the series, I haven't heard anything from them.
Regina wrote: "Kay that is a slow schedule for many authors now a days! I just read an article by an author talking about the new pressure on authors to publish more often than before, b/c people are reading faster than ever before with ereaders, etc. "You are so right about these ereaders. I've read so many books since I got mine. They should feel the pressure. LOL The demand is so much higher than it use to be. If my fave authors produce 2 books a year, I'd be so satisfied. I forget good info if I have to wait a whole year to read the next book.
Oh marcella, I am sorry. That must hurt. :( Particularly if you were invested in the group.It is hard to communicate via internet sometimes, we can't see people's reactions or intentions. I hope it works out.
Thanks Regina! I was pretty invested in the group. We were all really close, we even sent each other birthday gifts. It just bumms me out.
I'm sorry Marcella. Regina, is right...it's so hard to communicate through the internet. I've had some crazy experiences with group boards in the past. Maybe it's just time to let go of that particular group.
I think Kay's advice is good. Maybe also another thing to do if that is too hard, is to step back for a few days and then return in a few days or a week and see how it goes then? Another idea is to reach out personally via PM and ask if something is wrong. But personally, I would wait a few days to do anything to see how you feel.
I think you may be right Kay. Thanks ladies!!
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That's why I say I'm nasty, Sarah. I can live my life perfectly happy without forgiving a person. :) I have a switch I can turn off until people no longer matter.
By the same token, it means that I just let that person disappear from my thoughts and heart. I'm not obsessing over what they did to me, etc. I figure what goes around comes around.
I had a boyfriend who broke my heart. One day we were together everyday and the next day, he stopped taking my calls (it took me like a month to figure out he had dumped me because we were so close.) I never hated him but I never forgave him either - he should have had the balls to break up with me to my face.
A few years later we were on friendly terms and he invited me out for coffee. It turned out that his best friend in the world did the same to him. I don't know that I could have chosen a more perfect punishment because he was heartbroken in a way a woman could ever have hurt him.
I didn't laugh to his face but I wanted to. I never even wished him harm and seldom thought about him often but that filled me up with glee. Still does.