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Re: Goodkind - hate him but I hate the other Terry much, much more. Gosh I hate Terry Brooks and his Sword of Shannara series. If ever there was a waste if my reading time...there it is. I read the first 3 and then quickly gave that book away.
Re: Twilight - I can believe it's a good series for some but I despise the message it gives to young girls. And sadly I'm noticing more and more books out that are glorifying the dysfunctional relationship. Beautiful Disaster was one story that caused a ruckus on Dear Author and Goodreads due to the horrific relationship pictured and the reaction of the author when a reviewer mentioned how horrific the relationship is. But that's my personal thing. Plus sparkling vampires. *face palm*
Re: Pern - I really need to start Pern. I read one of them years ago but never picked up the rest. I'll just have to remember to stop before I read the ones by Todd.

I don't like Anne McCraffy. I think she handled the whole slave-master romance a little too lightly.

That is really tasteless in my opinion. The think about the Anita Blake series is that it is really really good before it goes bad. I loved books 1-10 (I think that is the right number). 1-3 are decent, but 4-10 are amazing - great horror, great suspense and the audio performance of 4-10 are absolutely amazing. I started and stopped Cerulean Sins. I couldn't believe how bad it was, but the good thing about how the series was left off at #10 is that there is no cliff hanger, there is no over all story arc and so it is very easy to walk away. Which I did. But the first 10 in the series will always be one of my favorite UF series.
But it is funny to me PC Cast made that comment because I think those books are horrible. I DNFed #1. House of Night is a series I will never read.

I can also admit to not being too impressed with Assassin's Apprentice. And I really hated the ending.


I can understand that...but I also remember peer pressure. There is no need to shelter teens but I feel there is also no need to focus things towards them that are harmful. My mom let me read every book she owned - but she made it clear which were focused on kids and which were focused on adults. Today we get a lot of adult focused stuff shoved right at kids. It kills their possibility of a childhood but rushing adulthood...and it saddens me.


Re: Goodkind - hate him but I hate the other Terry much, much more...."
MrsJoseph, I completely agree with you about the message a lot of teen romance books are projecting onto young girls. It is one of the largest problems that I have with that genre. Though I agree with the opinion that young girls should be able to come to their own conclusion about what is right/acceptable in a relationship, I think people tend to forget that at that age, you are really susceptible to influence. It is also harder for them to realize that "oh, he shouldn't be treating her this way etc etc" and might take it as "romantic". (prime example: how young girls are defending Chris Brown for his actions and rationalizing it. WTF) I personally really hate it when they romanticize stalker and/or violent behavior. A guy following a girl around creepily is NOT romantic--sorry.
I guess it is up to the parent to let them read them or not. And if they do, to explain about the themes or aspects of the relationships in the books in context to real-life relationships.
On that note, I think I may have merged both Terrys into one person (Goodkind and Brooks) I still haven't read either and this thread is making me more adverse to it. LOL

Twilight is hardly alone in being a bad model for teenagers. Romeo and Juliet? Teenage suicide? I don't think that should be taught in high school. Wuthering Heights? Heathcliff and Cathy are two horrible people who deserve each other. Pride and Prejudice? Probably the ultimate I love to hate you romance. Gone With the Wind! If I remember correctly there's a maybe Rhett rapes Scarlett.

I think we have to give kids some credit and not blame everything that's wrong with society on what a kid is allowed to read. If anything, I feel that television and the media is more dangerous to kids, because it presents someone else's ideas and doesn't allow a child to process situations the way a book does through their own cognitive processes. Also who the kids interact with as far as friends and peers play a role. A parent needs to ask themselves who is raising their child, the parent or their friends and the media. Until they do, I think they are going to have some problems in the end. But that's just my opinion. Having said that, I'm not anti-tv or movies. I just think that this is an area that a parent probably needs to be more strict/tighter on. And then there are video games.
I guess being a parent is harder than ever. You have to put a lot of time into raising your children, and some parents seem to have given the responsibility over to society and the media.
I read Twilight as an adult, and I've read the first three books. I don't think it sends bad messages. It's just a book. There are things that are good and bad about it, and it's a matter of personal tastes. It's not for everyone, and that's okay. Honestly, I think that the books have been made more important they need to be. As far as literature, there are definitely worse subject matters. Bella isn't meant to be a role model, and neither is Edward. They are just characters. If I had a child and they read the books, I would sit down with them and make sure they understood that they were just stories. I don't think any child should be using a fiction book as a behavior primer anyway. If I had kids, I'd probably feel more comfortable about them reading Twilight than some of the stuff I read when I was a kid, and some of the other YA series out there like House of Night.

Hear, hear!

I think we go too far in assuming that because we know one or two (or a handful of) extremely adult teens that we can safely say that we should push such adult materials. Everyday we say that sports stars are not role models...and then we castrate them for not acting like role models. Tiger Woods career was left in shambles and all of his endorsements were snatched...because he did something that millions of men do daily. He was not a role model. I asked one of my co-workers why he was so angry at Woods. His response: I have to now sit down and explain X, Y, and Z to my children that I didn't plan on doing as yet.
So...when's the best moment to explain to a young girl about love triangles, stalkers, obsessive abusive love and pedophilia?
It think it is naive of us - as a society - to assume that a teen will not get caught up in something like this. Because we package it up and giftwrap it especially for young girls. This wasn't something created for adults that just happened to be liked by younger girls. This is a book set in a high school in which a HS girl ends up dating a 200 y/o vampire. *gross*
I read my way through the entire YA (fantasy) section of my city's library as a kid - so either I'm much older than a lot of yall or my library had some great librarians - and never once encountered the level of sex, violence and dysfunction that kids are bombarded with today.
Of course, I'm only one person without a printing house - I can't make publishers re-categorize things like this as adult - but what I can say is that this stuff doesn't belong pushed at children.
And not to be misunderstood - I'm not saying that we need to hide this stuff from teens...but I am saying that we shouldn't market this stuff to teens. The same way we shouldn't market cigarettes and alcohol.
As far as TV - that's a different subject. I won't even get into my issues with TV and its programming.


That might be judgmental of me, so be it...there are too many things I really W..."
I will not read anything by Brandon Sanderson for the same reason.

Have you tried looking more in the middle grade/juvenile lit section, which is geared more for 9-12 year olds?

It's definitely on my Never Ever-list, too. Every time I read the excerpts on Amazon, I cringe.
Pauline wrote: "It is also harder for them to realize that "oh, he shouldn't be treating her this way etc etc" and might take it as "romantic". (prime example: how young girls are defending Chris Brown for his actions and rationalizing it. WTF)"
I share your WTF. It's really sad. :/

It's definitely on my Never Ever-list, too. Every time I read the excerpts on Amazon, I cringe.
Pauline wrote: "It is also harder for them to realize that "oh, he shouldn't be treating her this way etc etc" and might take it as "romantic". (prime example: how young girls are defending Chris Brown for his actions and rationalizing it. WTF)"
I share your WTF. It's really sad. :/ ."
Yeah. And I share it, too.

Even though I'm an adult, adult books usually make me sick,I do not read anything dark, gritty or violent, examples are, the song of ice and fire series, and the sword of truth series..both were read by my sister and deemed unsuitable for me.
I also don't enjoy sexual content, and would stay away from it if I can help it, which means I will never read Kushiel's Dart or books of that kind.
I don't like vampires, so I'm not going to read twilight any time soon..but I do sometimes read things that have vampires somewhere in them but not as the main topic.
I don't like to read an unfinished series..I usually try to put them off until at least one book is left and it is coming out soon..it's not the same as never touching it..but some books are part of a very long series that I'll probably never remember reading them after twenty years or so.

Other than that, and maybe that someday, I'm up for just ab..."
It is easy enough to distinguish between the ones he writes himself and the ones written by other authors. Personally i now ONLY read the Cross books but have also read and a couple of his earlier standalone novels, written by him only. Even the Cross books are a little variable these days. Cross Country was truly awful!
Most of the authors who are writing for him are published in their own right these days so it's working for someone.

But it is funny to me PC Cast made that comment because I think those books are horrible. I DNFed #1. House of Night is a series I will never read. "
I started the first book, but gave up after 15 pages, the writing just made me cringe.
I'll probably never read the Wheel of Time series, as most people say the last books are quite bad.

That reminded me of a book I read recently, where I came to despice the main character; Stray.
I liked the concept, but just couldn't stand the character and I hope that it will be kept away from all young imprecionalble girls out there (not that it's likely to happen).
It also brought up another series I had nearly managed to forget, where i loathed the MC; Stephen R. Donaldson's Thomas Covenant series.
I'll never go near either of those series again.

The first group I personally don't really consider 'series' (even though everyone else obviously does) since they technically are just one story that just happens to be far to long to fit into one book, both for a writer to actually commit to paper in one go and to physically fit into one book.
I tend to not start reading series like that anymore until they're all finished, since, well, Robert Jordan kinda burned me on that.(Still sad over his death.) The main exception currently being Rothfuss' fabulous trilogy because for some reason I was under the impression that The Name of the Wind was a stand alone when I got it ... When a favourite author starts a new series I'll most likely buy it, but won't read it until it's finished. I have the Game of Thrones books, but haven't read any yet. (did read some of the shorts and saw the TV series.)
The second type of series I'm even more leery towards. They tend to loose steam and get pretty unimaginative and formulaic as they go on. (Feist is a great bad example for this) The advantage is of course that since they don't form one story you can stop reading at any point in the series and not feel to bad about it. I always have a great respect for authors who cap off a series like this on a high and go on to other projects instead of milking the series dry. On the other hand writing IS a job and I don't begrudge authors wanting to keep a steady income from a proven to work series with a guaranteed fan base. I just don't want to read it past a certain point.

Really? The books of the series never go below a 3.7 rating and more books are above a 4 rating than below. That would suggest that 'most' people actually think they are really rather good.

I don't generally care for the long/epic neverending series ... GRRM is a good example of this for me. Nope, not going there.
I don't like the really (IMHO) tasteless vampire and/or werewolf series where blood/pain is a major part of the sex scenes. It can be done well, which I can deal with and it can be graphic/tasteless, which I choose not to deal with.
I also read for entertainment and dark/gritty/grim is not entertainment for me. As Mrs. Joseph says "Someone give me an elf with a rainbow and a magic sword on a flying talking horse! " Yep ... works for me.


I've noticed the same for a number of series, which seems strange until you look at the number of ratings for the books. They continue to drop the later in a series you get, which makes total sense. The ones that don't like a series won't come back for more, while the fans stick around.
I don't say that the books are bad, I just got tired of the repetitiveness after a while, where story elements was only slightly modified and then rehashed in the next book.

Some of you said you would never read the Twilight series because you don’t like Vampires. I would say the Twilight series is for people who don’t usually like Vampires.
Although I sometimes enjoy watching horror movies, I avoid doing so because the images linger in my mind for days.
I remember seeing Interview with a Vampire with Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise many years ago and finding it very disturbing. Because of that, I never had any desire to read the Anne Rice books. I like the Twilight series because there are no overly graphic descriptions of how they drink blood. That being said, when you think about it the Vampires in Twilight ARE scary. Think of James or the Volturi. They cannot even be killed the way vampires in other books can!
I enjoy Fairy Tales and for me the Twilight saga is like a Fairy Tale. I admit it is certainly not the greatest writing in the world, but it sure is entertaining.
Regarding Orson Scot Card, I also have no desire to read his works because of his ultra conservative political views.

I enjoyed the Sookie Stackhouse series in the beginning but the series just went on and on. I got tired of how Sookie got badly beaten up several times in every book. What makes the series for me is the offbeat humor. I find the whole premise, Vampires "coming out of the Coffin" hilarious!


O.M.G.! Another one hits the dust. *SMH* You will not be the first person to deep6 that series. Just about everyone I know who read the first book doesn't read the rest. I had the entire series (aren't the covers wonderful??) but I got rid of them cause they were Boredom Personified.

I bought the first two books of that series, and actually enjoyed the beginning of the first one. I particularly liked the festival scene in the village, but after that it just seemed like he read the Belgariad one too many times and decided to strip all the fun out of it. Needless to say, I pawned them off on some unsuspecting used book salesman.

Don't fall for it! It's a shame though, because apparently the author spent like eleven or twelve years writing this. I mean, I know what it's like to work really hard on something only to have it be crap. It's called constipation.

Which is why I only ever decide to start a series based upon ratings of the first book. It seems to be more honest about reviews since only people who enjoyed the first one are going to pick up the second.
Jalilah wrote: "± Colleen of the Crawling Chaos ± wrote: "Speaking of vampires, werewolves and sex... another series I will not continue is the Sookie Stackhouse series. I read the first one and just found Sookie..."
I haven't read the Sookie Stackhouse series yet but I heard that it really differs from the TV series (which I love). A lot of people seem to have a love/hate relationship with it.

LOL!!!!! I love that comment.

Don't fall for it! It's a shame th..."
Oh, my! I just read some of the reviews for this and it appears that you are definitely not alone in your dislike of it. I don't think I'll be putting it on my wish-list any time soon, either.

As for any book’s influence on teenagers, I don’t think you people should be worried. Literature doesn’t usually influence teenagers. I have 2 children, a son and a daughter, who have already gone through the teenage stage (THANKS ALL THE GODS FOR THAT!!!). What influences them much more is TV. Think about The Bachelor. Many girls really want that, and it’s repulsive! Any book is better, really. Because it can lead to another book. And another. What can The Bachelor lead them to?


Sandra aka Sleo wrote: "OMG!!!!!!!!! I will never, ever again read anything by Sherrilyn Kenyon. Her writing is so bad I'm surprised it sticks to the page."
Wow. Seriously? Must remove from TBR.

You are not alone.

She got me started on PNR.
I hate her YA books though, and pretty much anything not Dark Hunter.



Lol.

Thanks, now I have Michael Jackson stuck in my head! ;-)

I will never read the House of Night books because of the things I've heard about them. (view spoiler) I have neither the time nor the inclination to read something so filled with hate and prejudice.
I read a lot of the Anita Blake series, but stopped when the plot became buried under all the sex scenes. I don't mind sex in my books, in fact I rather like it...but when the book is more than 3/4 sex and the rest is a jumble of flying bullets, I get a little bored.

A+

Really? The books of the series never go below a 3.7 rating and more books are a..."
Mainly friends of mine who read the first 4-5 books :-)

Are you SERIOUS?? *shudder* I don't get down with noncon. It totally bothers me and rubs me very much wrong way.
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I read Eragon, but never continued with that series.
Didn't continue with the Bartimaeus series after the first.
I do want to finish the third in the Assassin's Apprentice series, but I didn't like Liveship and I have no real intention of reading any more Hobb after it.
Hmmm...
I have no real interest in Mistborn, but that's one I'll probably be talked into at some point.