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Olivia wrote: "Medha wrote: "Um, They didn't copy each other. Meyer might have gotten Idea from TVD books but she created her own Universe of sparkling vampires (duh!). 'cause The vampire diaries came in existenc..."Yeah, Shine bright like a diamond! XD
Twilight saga vampires are cold...while TVD vampz are hot!!
I don't think they are intentionally similar, yes the vampire diaries came out first but if LJ Smith and Stephanie Meyer are anything like i am they'll have grown up reading and watching vampire stories and thinking "hmm these are great but i would do this (their story) to make it more interesting" and then add in all the extra twists as the story goes, that way i think books and tv series are getting better as everyone writes their own personal and modern 'take' on the vampire. I thought that twilight was nice and everything, and they did the films so close to the books they were great but unfortunately for me the complexity of TVD is way more addictive to me and therefore in my opinion better.
I did start watching the tv series because it sounded twilightish and im glad i did, i've become so addicted and now read the books in between seasons as a way to feed my TVD addiction! Its much more realistic the way the characters fall in and out of love more often. I love that Bella and Edward are in love forever and getting their happily ever after together as vampires but the choices Elena, Stefan (<3 team Selena!, Damon and co. make plus the conciequences are much more addictive.
TVD has the added bonus of more supernaturals too.
But thats just my opinion.
No,no,no.The Vampire Diaries has some similarities with Twilight,considering that both contain the vampire theme to them.However,I personally find The Vampire Diaries more interesting than Twilight.There so much twist to it.On top of that,the characters are far more amusing.I have watched all the Twilight movies and am a very loyal VD fun,so according to me,VD is far more enjoyable than Twilight.Please I would like to hear your thoughts on the matter.
Erin wrote: "I jjst started watching the vampire diaries and it is so much like Twilight it isnt funny. It is crazy like it is Twilgiht but with a different name and different charcters. If you have watched i..."
Vampire Diaries is based off of a book that came long before Twilight. Be more informed next time you speak an opinion.
Emily wrote: "Vampire Diaries is based off of a book that came long before Twilight. Be more informed next time you speak an opinion."Once again, It doesn't follow the books so that defense doesn't work. They actually take more from Twilight than their own series that they could have used.
.·:*¨ × Shannon♥Loving Tomas Vrbada Like Woe × ¨*: wrote: "Maxy wrote: "Ahem. I don't like either series, frankly, but The Vampire Diaries was published in 1991, while Stephenie Meyer didn't even get the idea for Twilight until 2003."the whole TVD was wr..."
Maybe you shouldn't ignore the very VALID counterpoint.
Carena wrote: "Maybe you shouldn't ignore the very VALID counterpoint."And what is that, exactly?
TVD deals with a lot of supernatural elements unlike Twilight saga which had only two i.e, vamps & Werewolves. I love Twilight (because of Rob as Edward) but I can't see any other reason for me to choose Twilight OVER The vampire diaries. TVD has a very good storyline til 3rd season. And their season finale's are always awesome! Guy, don't fight. Twilight was inspired by TVD (if yu read the first book you'll know what I mean).Peace Please :)))
.·:*¨ × Shannon♥Loving Tomas Vrbada Like Woe × ¨*: wrote: "Emily wrote: "Vampire Diaries is based off of a book that came long before Twilight. Be more informed next time you speak an opinion."Once again, It doesn't follow the books so that defense doesn..."
Somerandom wrote: "I remember all the preteens at my Primary (Elementary) School reading the Vampire Diaries during the 90s.
How can TVD copy Twilight if it was released a decade before?
In any case, I can at least ..."
Yeah! They only have character names based on the book in the show and main theme of 'Elena falling for both brothers' in them. :))
Medha wrote: "Twilight was inspired by TVD (if yu read the first book you'll know what I mean)."No offense but no it's wasn't. The similarities are simply because of cliches, nothing more.
Medha wrote: "Yeah! They only have character names based on the book in the show and main theme of 'Elena falling for both brothers' in them. :))"
Elena falling in love with both brothers isn't the main theme at all, originally. That doesn't happen until The Return books and Season 3 of the TV show. But those are both horribly written and distastefully done.
The CW loves their cliff hangers. Slade is in prison, The Flash is coming, Bonnie and Damon are dead, Dean is a demon, Castiel is dying and Alric is alive. Drama, Drama, Drama...
Maybe we should just bring in Godzilla and let him sort it all out.
I thought the same thing after watching the first episode back when it came out. But the truth is, TVD has far surpassed what Twilight was able to do. The characters are more complex, the plot is more exciting (there are actual sacrifices made and battles fought versus all the build-up and then nothing happening.) I think TVD the show took the things that were great about TVD the books and Twilight the series, along with previous vampire fiction, and made it their own. I happen to love it!
.·:*¨ × Shannon♥Loving Tomas Vrbada Like Woe × ¨*: wrote: "Medha wrote: "Twilight was inspired by TVD (if yu read the first book you'll know what I mean)."No offense but no it's wasn't. The similarities are simply because of cliches, nothing more.
Medha..."
of course that's the main theme that didn't change after all about books and show.
.·:*¨ × Shannon♥Loving Tomas Vrbada Like Woe × ¨*: wrote: "Medha wrote: "Twilight was inspired by TVD (if yu read the first book you'll know what I mean)."No offense but no it's wasn't. The similarities are simply because of cliches, nothing more.
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Medha wrote: "of course that's the main theme that didn't change after all about books and show."No, the original books weren't. Elena was never torn between them like Katherine was. Elena/Stefan were always meant to be since the '90s. Damon accepted this and left twice in the books.
“it’s a story of Elena
falling in love with Damon to the same
extent that she is in love with Stefan” -- L.J. Smith"
That's The Return series. Only in that series does L.J. randomly decide to have Elena pull an 180 and make her no better than Katherine to please Elena/Damon fans.
.·:*¨ × Shannon♥Loving Tomas Vrbada Like Woe × ¨*: wrote: "Medha wrote: "of course that's the main theme that didn't change after all about books and show."No, the original books weren't. Elena was never torn between them like Katherine was. Elena/Stefan..."
Oooh! I see...I thought we were talking of the whole series itself! :) You're right. Friends? ^_^
Medha wrote: "Oooh! I see...I thought we were talking of the whole series itself! :) You're right. Friends? ^_^"I don't consider The Original Books and The Return in the same series. Okay, Friends. =]
.·:*¨ × Shannon♥Loving Tomas Vrbada Like Woe × ¨*: wrote: "Medha wrote: "Oooh! I see...I thought we were talking of the whole series itself! :) You're right. Friends? ^_^"I don't consider The Original Books and The Return in the same series. Okay, Friend..."
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Twilight could have been pretty good if it was made into a tv show. The writers would have had creative freedoms to change the story, look into other characters backgrounds, explore new plots etc. They may have even been able to fix the ridiculous vamp baby thing and come up with a decent explanation of vampire venom and why they sparkle and stuff.
You never know. It could happen in the future.
S.L.J. wrote: "Twilight could have been pretty good if it was made into a tv show. The writers would have had creative freedoms to change the story."No, they wouldn't. Stephenie would never allow it to completely stray away like say, Vampire Diaries. I recalled when Paramount tried to get the rights to Twilight, they wanted to change everything. Bella was gonna be an track star on jet skis on the run from the FBI or something so she turned them down.
.·:*¨ × Shannon♥Loving Tomas Vrbada Like Woe × ¨*: wrote: "The TV show kinda does copy Twilight but making it the opposite with Elena being stronger then Bella, ect. but at the same time it does bash Twilight.Everyone uses the excuse of the fact that sin..."
Well actually The Vampire Diaries was written long before Twilight soooooo nope Twilight would be the copy.
Ryder wrote: "Well actually The Vampire Diaries was written long before Twilight soooooo nope Twilight would be the copy."Nah, Just because something was written first doesn't always mean it was copied.
Yeah, like you can't say 'Obsidian' with Daemon Black is a copy of Twilight just because it has a girl moving into new town and all... -_-
I love how loyal everyone is here to Twilight and Vampire Diaries but at the same time mostly agreeing that the Vampire Diaries is better. :-)
Jennifer wrote: "I love how loyal everyone is here to Twilight and Vampire Diaries but at the same time mostly agreeing that the Vampire Diaries is better. :-)"The series is. The books were terrible imo.
S.L.J. wrote: "Jennifer wrote: "I love how loyal everyone is here to Twilight and Vampire Diaries but at the same time mostly agreeing that the Vampire Diaries is better. :-)"The series is. The books were terri..."
Oh My...I wanted to read the books,so I got the first 4.I believe I managed to get through the half of the first one.It was terrible!However the TV series is fabulous!I couldn't agree more!I can't say that I didn't enjoy the Twilight movies,but let's be real,TVD belongs to a whole new dimension!
A little part of me died when I saw this post.They are not the same.
They follow a generic sub-plot which is used by many authors and film makers.
The narrative isn't the same. It's very different.
I do think some people are just making connection when really there isn't one. It's just the whole plot of 'one girl can't make up her mind between two men.'
Come on people!
Am I the only one who sees absolutely NO similarities between Twilight and Vampire Diaries. About the only thing they have in common is the fact that there are vampires in them, but it ends there. With the books, the characters aren't anything alike, nor are the storylines similar. And if the writers of the television show are guilty of trying to copy anything, it's Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
Nothing like Twilight. In my opinion, of course. Vampire Diaries was written before Twilight anyways, wasn't it??
Olivia wrote: " type of thing while the twi vamp just sparkle like faries.. if buffy saw 1 of those, she would kill them in heart beat, type of thing."How could she, exactly? Staking would pretty much do nothing but break the stake.
.·:*¨ × Shannon♥Loving Tomas Vrbada Like Woe × ¨*: wrote: "How could she, exactly? Staking would pretty much do nothing but break the stake. "In this hypothetical scenario, let's assume that what works for her as a slayer is the same thing that will work if she were in the Twilight verse.
There's more to being a slayer than just staking vampires. That of course woulds still put them at a great disadvantage to vampires. So slayers are bestowed with powers to be able to defeat vampires.
They have the strength to rival a vampire, excellent combat skills, the agility and reflexes to match vampires, heightened senses which helps in fighting, healing abilities (she can survive a lot of physical trauma. It would take a lot to hurt them harder than a bruise). Get this, Buffy (and other slayers) don't need much sleep. Buffy can stay up for days on end.
slayers have to go through very intensive training to make sure they can be the best slayer they can be. And at the end of this training they're put to the test by having their powers stripped of them, making them rely on their intellect and wit to defeat a very powerful vampire.
Buffy, with her powers and skills and without, is a force to be reckoned with. She can easily stand up to Meyer's vampires. She has defeated more powerful vampires than them you know.
and hell, even if Buffy couldn't do it she has Willow. Willow would end them before they could take their next breath.
And did you know that they HAVE to breath, whether or not Meyer said they didn't? Because even Angel needed to breath, even though he said he didn't. You need to breath to form words and talk. You don't breathe you can't talk. So yeah :D .
Even though all three are considered the same category- vampires- I don't really see a point in comparing them. Regardless of which vampire race (?) is theoretically correct or better, with this day and age, I commend new authors for switching things around. The coolest vampire book is, in my opinion, Richelle Mead's Vampire Academy Series. I don't think anyone tops her twist on it.
, The Twilight Saga was published in the 2000's and went to movie in 2008 however The Vampire Diaries were published in 1991-1992 and went to a TV series this year. Who copied who, cause face it, some of the similarities are uncanny
Olivia wrote: "Olivia wrote: ", The Twilight Saga was published in the 2000's and went to movie in 2008 however The Vampire Diaries were published in 1991-1992 and went to a TV series this year. Who copied who, c..."The TVD show came out after Twilight, but is based on (albeit loosely) the book series which came out a good decade before Twilight.
Okay... here's my tuppence worth.I read TVD way back when they first came out. You guys have to understand that in the '90's, child and YA books couldn't be longer than 200 pages because it was thought that we didn't have a long attention span and you're forgetting that there was censorship, particularly with American books. You couldn't include too much sex (implied or otherwise) or violence. Which was why they seem a little tame compared to now.
At the age of 15 or so, I hated book Elena because she was a mean girl. But, having watched the show and re read the books since then, I will admit to preferring the books because of Elena. Elena in the books is shallow, selfish and an all round bitch (who's only nice to her friends and loves her sister) and I like that. She feels like a real person. She's a stronger character in the books and she actually grows and changes as a person during the books.
In addition they made Damon far too much of a murderer in the show. in the books, he isn't responsible for the murders, he just doesn't think he should feed on animals. And blood drinking in the books is far more sexual, it's more like the bite from Anne Rice books, it turns it's victims on. I also prefer book Bonnie and I really miss Meredith.
My friends and I gave up on the show midway through season five as we were getting tired of the 'pick a plot out a hat' type of writing.
I rarely watch Vampire Diaries, but I can tell you this, VD has NO comparison to Twilight.1. Elena is much stronger that Bella, I'm possitive. She doesn't pout and sulks like Bella.
2. VD Vampires aren't "Shiny", which is just stupid in the first place.
3. Stefan and Damon are so much more sexy and the guys aren't shiny, whiny, mopey, they're WAY MORE Mature that Edward and Posse.
4. VD Vampire have Fangs, not "Sharp Teeth" like Twilight Vampires.
5. The VD Vampires don't go after a sweet, innocent girl when 1 drop of blood drops on the carpet.
Shall I continue to put things to the List? I don't think so.
Let's just ALL agree that VD Vampires are WAY COOLER that the "Twilight" Vampires.
I think Tv shows, books, and other entertainment think love triangles are necessary to create a conflict interesting enough to keep their audience. Twilight obviously thought that or else there wouldn't have been the most forced love triangle in history, but it did keep people reading so there's some validity to it. But what they fail to realize is that after a while and especially if it gets unnecessarily elongated, you lose the audience because you eventually stop caring about any of the characters in the triangle and just want them either all dead or worrying about more important things. The only love triangle I can actually stand is the one from Hunger Games and that's because her choice really doesn't matter in the grand scheme and each character doesn't make who ends up together a priority.
Having read Vampire Diaries I can tell you with absolutely certainty that Twilight is a rip off of it. Those "unique" vegetarian vampires — Stefan Salvatore, those special vampires with special abilities — all vampires in this book depending on how much human blood they drink, the tortured old vampire falling in love with an insignificant teenaged girl — Stefan and Elena. Every "innovative" element from Twilight was done before and better by Vampire Diaries because at least that book is consistent with its own lore. There's nothing unique about Twilight so it can't be ripped off by any other series — it's like Helen Kane's lawsuit against the Betty Boop, you can't steal what's already been stolen. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if new information came out saying that Twilight was a fanfiction of Vampire Diaries.
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And TVD show had one or more scenes 'influenced' from Twilight Saga. If we start counting books with similarity to Twilight...you know, it's a tiring job! :)