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Librarian help - Requests to add page numbers, publication year, Prize Worthy, etc.
Gabriel wrote: "I recently finished reading this: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1... with my son. Clearly it is a YA novel and I don't know that I can use it here or not. I was not able to determi..."Since we know it isn't on Bloom's Canon, you need to determine if it is shelved as YA/Assignment/Juvenile at Brooklyn Public Library. Then you would go to Lexile.com to see if the Lexile is below 800. Sometimes you might find that BPL has it shelved as YA etc., but there is no Lexile. Without a Lexile we end up saying it is 000 Lexile and not allowed.
I'll help you out on this one - BPL doesn't have it shelved except as the movie, and since it doesn't, we don't check the Lexile.
One of the things that can be useful is that even with a low lexile, it can count for any of the 10- and 20-point tasks, just not for any possible styles.
And, by the way, all of the links for doing this are in the Quick Links post on the group homepage.
Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "Gabriel wrote: "I recently finished reading this: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1... with my son. Clearly it is a YA novel and I don't know that I can use it here or not. I was not..."Thanks Elizabeth! That was the conclusion I had reached as well, but was hoping it would count somehow...
Could you please update the cover image for Ineffability and Religious Experience? The updated image can be found here https://static1.squarespace.com/stati...
Guy wrote: "Could you please update the cover image for Ineffability and Religious Experience? The updated image can be found here https://static1.squarespace.com/stati......"
This type of request is better made in the librarians group.
Guy wrote: "Could you please update the cover image for Ineffability and Religious Experience? The updated image can be found here https://static1.squarespace.com/stati......"
Thanks for the guidance. I will post a request there.
I need a ruling regarding task 20.4, Balance. Is it only by title...or would author's count? (specicially Salman Rushie, who's other works appear on the list of SE Asians)
Gabriel wrote: "I need a ruling regarding task 20.4, Balance. Is it only by title...or would author's count? (specicially Salman Rushie, who's other works appear on the list of SE Asians)"Only the works on the included lists count for that task.
Not related to a book in the challenge, but I am updating the books I own on GR and noticed that this bookhttps://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2... has a word count that is WAAAAY out. Should only be 268.
I couldn't see where to go to get it corrected, so thought I would put it here as I knew someone could change it our let me know. Thanks!
Amanda wrote: "Not related to a book in the challenge, but I am updating the books I own on GR and noticed that this bookhttps://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2... has a word count that..."
Verified with Worldcat and corrected page count.
Bea wrote: "Amanda wrote: "Not related to a book in the challenge, but I am updating the books I own on GR and noticed that this bookhttps://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2... has a ..."
Thanks Bea.
If I can't seem to find my edition any other way ( year, publisher ) then page count is my next step.
I didn't think my university would assign an abridged version!
I just read The Works of Edna St. Vincent Millay . It is a kindle book and I can't find it in any other format. It says it is a collection of six books
Not sure what you are asking for here, Rebekah. Perhaps page count? Amazon does not provide page count but rather notes kb size. To my knowledge, there is not a librarian tool that converts kb size to page count.Regarding publication year: the Kindle book was published in 2012. I tried to determine the contents from the "look inside" but was unsuccessful. I think you might be looking for the original publication date of each of the included six books. Sorry that I was not able to help you. I had difficulty even figuring out what the six books were.
Rebekah wrote: "I just read The Works of Edna St. Vincent Millay . It is a kindle book and I can't find it in any other format. It says it is a collection of six books"I corrected the original publication date based on the included titles in the description (1921). For Kindle books, the page count from Amazon is used and this is not provided. Personally, I have several collected works editions and none of them have page counts.
For purposes of the challenge, we will be happy to allow this title, knowing that it is over 100 pages and, as it includes only poetry and plays, it will earn the not-a-novel points.
Thanks. You know how adding points confuses me anyway, (smile) even when the numbers are clear! I wondered if I was supposed to check all the six books in collection and add their numbers for a page count and if I needed to find original pub dates of each book and then pick most recent.
Rebekah wrote: "Thanks. You know how adding points confuses me anyway, (smile) even when the numbers are clear!"LOL - yes, numbers are an entirely foreign language to you, I think.
I have two books that I have issues with for 5 Years Through Summer tasks....the first is that there are two entries for Mouthful of Rocks.... one with a publication date of 1989 and the other 1990. I have a copy of the book with a 1989 date and that is the year I hope I can use. see Mouthful of Rocks: Modern Adventures in the French Foreign Legion and Mouthful of Rocks: Through Africa and Corsica in the French Foreign Legion
the second book is The Lemon by Mohammed Mrabet which doesn't show a publication date at all on GR...but somewhere while I was doing the research and compiling my list I had it pegged as 1969.
Hope you can verify both of these for me.
Thanks
Combined Mouthful of Rocks: Through Africa and Corsica in the French Foreign Legion together. The lone book had a missing "s" on the author's last name.Regarding The lemon: the GR profile already shows 1969 as the original publication date. I could not find any support other than Wikipedia, but I also did not remove it because of source. I will leave that for another GR author to decide. For now, it is as you want it.
Thanks Bea.... I missed that the second Mouthful of Rocks added another book. And I surely don't know how I didn't see the date for The Lemon.
I'm not sure about the publication date on In Cold Blood (sorry I can't link from the app). Goodreads has 1965, wikipedia has 1966 but that it was first serialized and copyrighted in 1965. Which would be the right one?
Sam wrote: "I'm not sure about the publication date on In Cold Blood (sorry I can't link from the app). Goodreads has 1965, wikipedia has 1966 but that it was first serialized and copyrighted in 1965. Which wo..."Goodreads is correct. With the 4-part serial beginning Sept 1965, it would have completed publication in 1965.
Phew! That's definitely good news since it was my first FYTS book for 1965! Thanks for confirming :)
Sam wrote: "Phew! That's definitely good news since it was my first FYTS book for 1965! Thanks for confirming :)"About the only time I question the GR date is a public domain book that has, for example, 2015 for orig pub. Or sometimes a Persian date gets entered and picked up, so I'll question those in the 1300s, too.
We know the GR data isn't 100% reliable, but it gets better all the time.
EDIT: I should add to this orig pub dates after the author's death. Some works are published posthumously, but if I haven't encountered the title before, I will investigate. Also, works where an award was won before orig pub date. A few things just trigger curiosity.
I was wondering if someone could put a page count on Protege - Amazon finally put up a page count of 231 pages. Thanks in advance!
Kazen wrote: "I was wondering if someone could put a page count on Protege - Amazon finally put up a page count of 231 pages. Thanks in advance!"Done.
I'm hoping this is the correct thread for this! I will be readingThe Whirlpool by Jane Urquhart
However, when you do the basic (first) link to the title (which it seems you do for scoring purposes) it links to a play that was adapted from the novel. Obviously, that isn't correct - can this be resolved?
Valerie wrote: "I'm hoping this is the correct thread for this! I will be readingThe Whirlpool by Jane Urquhart
However, when you do the basic (first) link to the title (which it ..."
Yes, this is the correct thread. Fixed.
I look forward to your review. In another group, we were talking about Canadian women authors. I haven't read her and I'm hoping to get to her next year.
Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "Valerie wrote: "I'm hoping this is the correct thread for this! I will be readingThe Whirlpool by Jane Urquhart
However, when you do the basic (first) link to the ..."
Thanks!
I have a request for a librarian. Could someone please add that Flight Behavior by Barbara Kingsolver won the Weatherford Award for fiction given by Appalachian Studies in 2013 to the book's GR page?
Rebekah wrote: "I have a request for a librarian. Could someone please add that Flight Behavior by Barbara Kingsolver won the Weatherford Award for fiction given by Appalachian Studie..."Done :).
Karin wrote: "Rebekah wrote: "I have a request for a librarian. Could someone please add that Flight Behavior by Barbara Kingsolver won the Weatherford Award for fiction given by Ap..."It wasn't won in 2013.
Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "Karin wrote: "Rebekah wrote: "I have a request for a librarian. Could someone please add that Flight Behavior by Barbara Kingsolver won the Weatherford Award for ficti..."Right I just checked--it was 2012. I'm off to correct that.
The reason I didn't take this on, is because my process for things like this is to do the entire award. There are 44 years, and, as I said above, my hands are full just now. Kind of like with other RwS stuff, but on Monday the Goodreads Choice Awards close, and that is my project every year to enter those several hundred awards.
Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "The reason I didn't take this on, is because my process for things like this is to do the entire award. There are 44 years, and, as I said above, my hands are full just now. Kind of like with other..."Okay, that makes sense. I have always just worked on an individual books before, sometimes series, usually something I am reading or have read (habits from Shelfari).
Karin wrote: "I have always just worked on an individual books before, "Which for awards, just makes a lot of holes so that going back and working on it is harder.
Karin wrote: "Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "Karin wrote: "Rebekah wrote: "I have a request for a librarian. Could someone please add that Flight Behavior by Barbara Kingsolver won the ..."Sorry about that and thank you
Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "Karin wrote: "I have always just worked on an individual books before, "Which for awards, just makes a lot of holes so that going back and working on it is harder."
I don't know about it from that end of it. Some kinds of awards are rather obscure and not likely to get on anyone's radars since the vast majority of winners aren't necessarily huge sellers in the US where a lot of GR readers are (but of course not all!!!) I haven't met people who just go and do awards before or things like that, so this is new for me.
Normally what I do is add covers and easy missing information, or a few times books that weren't even on here due to their age and scarcity now.
At any rate, I was just trying to help for this challenge and can just stop if that's better.
Karin wrote: "I haven't met people who just go and do awards before or things like that, so this is new for me."There is an entire thread for these in the librarians group, and a link to a google doc in the first post.
https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...
But awards are a mess, frankly, even though we have been relying on them in this group. We're lobbying to get authors not to be able to add them, because they don't have a clue and just make a hot mess.
Good Reads shows Sultan In Oman as being published first in 1984...but the copy I have has it copyrighted 1957...and my library acquired the book on April 3, 1957.
Ed wrote: "Good Reads shows Sultan In Oman as being published first in 1984...but the copy I have has it copyrighted 1957...and my library acquired the book on April 3, 1957."Fixed!
I'm planning to read Tit for Tat and Other Latvian Folk Tales for 10.3.... and my copy indicates the tales are "retold by Mae Durham from the translation of Skaidrite Rubene-Koo" but none of that is indicated on the GR page for the book.Will this work for LiT styles?
Ed wrote: "I'm planning to read Tit for Tat and Other Latvian Folk Tales for 10.3.... and my copy indicates the tales are "retold by Mae Durham from the translation of Skaidrite Rubene-Koo" but..."I added the portion in quotes to the GR description. Still, it is a retelling by Durham and not the translation by Rubene-Koo and will not work for LiT.
Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "Ed wrote: "I'm planning to read Tit for Tat and Other Latvian Folk Tales for 10.3.... and my copy indicates the tales are "retold by Mae Durham from the translation of Skaidrite Rube..."ok...thanks.
I have a book called Poems which is really an annotated guide about poetry. The authors are listed as C.F. Main and Peter I Seng.There is one book called poems by C.F. Main on GR...but it doesn't list Seng...and a search by author reveals there are no books on GR with Seng as the author. (Although that isn't accurate either...see below).
GR has their "Poems" at 393 pages ..apparently for the second edition.
I have a third edition with 496 pages.
I'm not even sure this is the same book.
I looked in the preface and it indicates that this is the third edition of Poems: Wadsworth Handbook and Anthology...but GR has that at 372 pages...and that title does not appear on the cover of my copy (and my copy has no title page.)
I don't see any publication date or ISBN number on my copy.
I was hoping to fit this into a future RwS season...but there doesn't seem to be enough info. Can you help?
It sounds like this one, Ed - the page count is right and it's another edition of the one you found I think.https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2...
Ed: here is an output from WorldCat, that may be what you have. If you can confirm, I can add it. However, note that Seng has middle initial J, rather than I, and that he doesn't appear until the 2nd edition. http://www.worldcat.org/title/poems/o...
I fiddled a bit and this title appears to be the 1965 edition. ISBNs didn't come into use until the mid-60s, so editions prior to that will not have one.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2...
I think it is the one Rosemary found https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2.... I couldn't tell from the Worldcat lists.BTW, is such a book considered non-fiction because it is a guide or fiction because of the poetry?
Thanks everyone!
oh..and you are correct about Seng's initial being J. I had to look closely..The font used on the cover makes it look like an "I".
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