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Aug 22, 2015 01:35AM
In all honesty Spillane seems tame to me. In their day, I'm sure they caused quite a stir, but he keeps the sex and violence rather respectable and not sleazy or graphic. I'd say Sin City is a much darker and sleazier style of story. I recently read The Fade Out, Vol. 1, which is an amazing 50's style noir in graphic novel format. It's my first time reading Ed Brubaker, but I definitely think he's going to become one of my faves as far as comics/graphic novels go.
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Shawn, you might want to try some of Spillane's standalones. IMO, The Erection Set is one of his best. The Tough Guys are either novellas or short stories. Can't recall, but I remember really liking it. I liked both better than the Mike Hammer series. I never could stomach his Tiger Mann series.
Shawn wrote: "In all honesty Spillane seems tame to me. In their day, I'm sure they caused quite a stir, but he keeps the sex and violence rather respectable and not sleazy or graphic. I'd say Sin City is a much..."Hi Shawn. Brubaker and Philips have produced some terrific crime/noir graphics stories. Criminal, Vol. 1: Coward is recommended. It's as grimy and sleazy as the excellent 50s Gold Medal and Monarch paperbacks from writers like Goodis, Thompson, Brewer, etc.
Thanks for the recommendations, guys. I've heard many a good things about Ed Brubaker's criminal series. As for the stand-alone Mickey Spillane novels, the one that I'm currently reading is a stand-alone called The Deep, and it's about this gangster that comes back to his hometown to take over the gang left from his dead friend. Tough Guys is also on my radar. I'm doing this by phone, so I can't scroll up, but to the person that recommended me The Erection Set, how is that? Is it dirtier than Mike Hammer? The name would imply yes, but I found Spillane to be fairly more reserved than I had first expected him to be.
Shawn, I guess the Erection Set is a bit dirtier, but not awful. Remember when it was published & how it was main stream, so it couldn't be too rough. The title refers to the movie crowd - actors, producers, & such making a movie. It's based on his short story "The Bastard Bannerman", but has an odd SF twist at the end, too. It has some very memorable lines & moments in it.
Anyone no for sure if munseys website will be up and running again soon?
Hi Pulp Fiction!I'm a mystery writer, who writes within the genre of science fiction. Is that a little two way out there for this group?
Having said that, I love all detective/crime novels of any genre.
I also have FREE copies of my latest sci-fi mystery novel, Vatic, available for early review. It's released 6th December. I will be publishing excerpts from ALL five-star reviews in both the electronic and printed versions of the novel. So if anyone is interested, please say hi.
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Hi Melki,Thanks for getting back to me. I get hooked by all types of mysteries, that's why even when I try and write something else, the mystery takes over. I wish it wasn't always the case as it's a difficult genre.
Vatic is a quick read btw. I can get through it in about a day. And I'm a slow reader!
Melki wrote: "Welcome, Kev. There are plenty of science fiction fans in this group. We had a group read of Leviathan Wakes earlier this year, so you might find some takers for your freebie."
Melki wrote: "Welcome to the group, Bradford. That's great news about your book."Thanks for the kind words and for the nice welcome!
Hello,I am Pamela James and I review mysteries. I also interview authors for our blog. http://mayhemandmagic2.blogspot.com
I love historical mysteries, pulp mysteries which of course include noir, cozy and traditional mysteries.
Pamela
Hello,I joined this group a few weeks back but neglected to introduce myself. I read a pretty wide range of fiction, but always come back to the pulps. They're just so fascinating, and while most of them aren't necessarily great, you can find some real gems. Like most people here I'm a big fan of Chandler and Hammett. Jim Thompson is another favorite of mine, and I've been getting into Charles Willeford lately.
I'm also a writer and recently published my first novel: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2...
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I hope you will enjoy your stay here, and together we will discover new books or revisit the classics.
Hi,I just hit the "join" button, so let me introduce myself right away, cause I know I will forget otherwise, haha:
I'm Frank, age 30 and I'm from the Netherlands. I read alot of childrens books, but from age 13 forward I just stopped reading alltogether; Could'nt concentrate, didn't like it, don't know why.
I picked it up again around 2 years ago and I do seem to love it again, we'll see how it goes. My liking for pulp crime is to 'blame' on my love for those kind of movies I guess, wich at first was strictly tied to sleazy neo-noir: first 3 Jophn Dahl movies, Lost Highway, After Dark, My Sweet ,Near Dark. One day a friend lent me his Jim Thompson omnibus (picador, 1995) and it was a revelation for me: this was awesome (except for The Getaway, did like it a bit less)!
Now, since I found the taste for it, I also like David Goodis, Micky Spillane (though his books tend to get very one-note) and Raymond Chandler. Lots to discover yet, though I'm pickky I guess. I like mine trashy,/sleazy, hard as nails, seductive, black-humoured and bleak, More crazy atmosphere, less complex plotting.
I hope this group helps me in my quest of searching new books/writers in the genre. So, thats that...ofcourse I was looking for just a fun messageboard with cool people too, haha.
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Hi Frank! Good to see another Jim Thompson fan.
Hi everybody,My name is Walt Cody, I've just joined the Goodreads Author Group as my first thriller book will be released tomorrow. Glad to be part of this nice community!
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My name is Walt Cody, I've just joined the Goodreads Author Group as my first thriller book will be released tomorrow. Glad to be part of this nice community!"
Welcome to the group, Walt. Best of luck with your book.
Jon Ander wrote: "Hi everybody! I'm Jon, from western Massachusetts. I just got into reading hard-boiled novels by the hand of Raymond Chandler, Dashiel Hammett and James M. Cain. Besides these classic and obvious c..."Ah, you've got a lot of pleasure ahead of you. Start with Ross Thomas's "Briarpatch" move on to Elmore Leonard's "City Primeval" you might even try Andrew Bergman's '40's series like "Hollywood and LeVine" and almost anything by John D. MacDonald.
Hi Everyone,I'm Teri in Northern California - joined recently. I'm looking forward to reading more "old time" noir, to go along with my love of "old time noir" movies -- The Postman Always Rings Twice, Cape Fear, Double Indemnity, Murder, My Sweet, Niagra, etc.
Ken Bruen is a big favorite - I've read everything of his I can get my hands on.
I'm starting with James M. Cain, John MacDonald and Jim Thompson. Con men/women (and hitman/-woman) are favorite themes, so there's a copy of Fatale, the March read, en route.
Nice group, so much great info.
Hello I'm Tim, and joined here recently to keep up on what others are reading in the world of pulp/crime-fiction, seems to be my #1 interest as of late. I look forward to participating in the monthly book read, and am waiting for this month's selection to arrive so that I can dig in. Glad to be here!
Hi Everyone! I'm Jason from Baltimore, Maryland, USA, and I was inspired to delve into the world of pulp and crime fiction after reading a few comics / trade paperbacks by Ed Brubaker and Sean Philips. I'm looking forward to reading more from the classic authors as well as learning about some of the more recent writers in the genre. I also love books on ancient history and languages, enjoy old movies, and I listen to way too much music.
It's currently mid-March, so I will mostly likely jump on board with April's selection. Otherwise, this looks like a very fun group and I am very much looking forward to participating in discussions!
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Jason wrote: "Hi Everyone! I'm Jason from Baltimore, Maryland, USA, and I was inspired to delve into the world of pulp and crime fiction after reading a few comics / trade paperbacks by Ed Brubaker and Sean Phil..."You can't do much better on the graphic stuff than Brubaker and Phillips, but you might want to try Azzarello and Risso's 100 Bullets. My friend Dale Berry (Tales of the Moonlight Cutter) just started doing a graphic short story feature for Alfred Hitchcock Mystery Magazine and his stuff is nice and noirish. As for straightforward pulp, I recommend Greg Barth's "Selena" trilogy (Selena, Diesel Therapy, Suicide Lounge) from All Due Respect books, a small indy that specializes in dark fiction. The Selena books feature one of the toughest women in the history of crime fiction. Of course, you could always take a look at my own collection of shorts, "Hangman's Dozen," or my double novella, "Dead Heat With The Reaper." Both of those are also published by All Due Respect. . .
William wrote: "You can't do much better on the graphic stuff than Brubaker and Phillips, but you might want to try Azzarello and Risso's 100 Bullets..." Thanks for the tips, William! I've seen 100 Bullets on the shelves, and I have enjoyed other things I've read by Azzarello, so I will definitely check out the series. I will also track down your other suggestions; All Due Respect sounds like a fun company!
Hi :) I'm new at Goodreads and I love reading noir fiction.
I'm from Spain, so sorry for my level of English :( I hope this won't be a problem.
I will read the next book because this month I'm so busy ^^
Nice to meet you all. Add me as a friend ^^
I'm from Spain, so sorry for my level of English :( I hope this won't be a problem.
I will read the next book because this month I'm so busy ^^
Nice to meet you all. Add me as a friend ^^
Begoña wrote: "Hi :) I'm new at Goodreads and I love reading noir fiction. I'm from Spain, so sorry for my level of English :( I hope this won't be a problem.
I will read the next book because this month I'm so..."
Hi Begona,
Welcome! I'm new here too but have lurked for awhile. These readers really know their noir! Lots of great info here.
Hey Folks, Love Noir ect... Looking for new authors to read. Recently read No Country For Old Men. Loved the book but wished he'd used standard english, punctuation, and who said what. Made it difficult at times. Still, good book.
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Thanks, I never understood just what Goodreads was really. I was looking over your bookshelf. Nice. Good place to start. Glad I joined.
Hi, All,I am Patti Boeckman, wife of now deceased pulp writer Charles Boeckman. Charles sold his first story in 1944. He was a very versatile writer and produced pulp stories, women's confession magazine stories, various books and articles. Writing and music were his two hobbies and his two jobs. He decided as a kid that he didn't want to work for someone else. He wanted to be his own boss. And after paying his dues in a few starter jobs, he began selling enough to break out on his own and leave 9 to 5 jobs lying in the dust. We were married for 50 wonderful years. Bold Venture Press is now in the process of reprinting many of his writings. The first ones should be coming out soon.
I'm a (relatively) recent addict in the realm of hard-b/noir. I'm always interested in novel fixes- learning of new authors in this realm (despite the obligatory stack of unread paperbacks).
So far my favorite is Jim Thompson. I've also greatly enjoyed Hammett and Cain. Need to read more Chandler. I've dipped my eye into the words of Charles Williams, Charles Willeford, and a few others.
So far my favorite is Jim Thompson. I've also greatly enjoyed Hammett and Cain. Need to read more Chandler. I've dipped my eye into the words of Charles Williams, Charles Willeford, and a few others.
Damnotion wrote: "I'm a (relatively) recent addict in the realm of hard-b/noir. I'm always interested in novel fixes- learning of new authors in this realm (despite the obligatory stack of unread paperbacks). So f..."
Hi, and welcome to the group! I think most of us are addicts so you're definitely in the right place.
Hi> I'm new to this group. I've joined specifically to hear conversations about what others think about detective noir or thriller noir as a growing genre. I've always enjoyed classic noir like Chandler and Hammet. Sometimes the grittiers stuff, like Elroy's work displays a seamier side of life that is hard to take and impossible to put down.
Hi Nancy. So who are the hot new writers in Detective Noir? I always am reading from the old masters so I miss anything new.Also do you know of any well regarded currect pulp fiction magazines ? Either Print or online.... I assume the old ones have gone away.
thanks.
D.E. wrote: "Hi Nancy. So who are the hot new writers in Detective Noir? I always am reading from the old masters so I miss anything new.Also do you know of any well regarded currect pulp fiction magazines ? ..."
Modern Detective noir. Hmm. I'm much more a fan of older noir so I'm not sure I can help out there. Same is true with magazines so maybe someone else can help you out on both.
Hi everyone. I'm new to the site and thought I would say hi :)
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First of all, fantastic board. I found myself just reading post after post so thanks to those that set it up and have kept it running.Have been a fan of the hard-boiled/noire genre for years within film, but just starting to explore some authors along with Hammett and Chandler. Right now three authors that have caught my attention are Craig Rice (Georgiana Ann Randolph Craig), W. R. Burnett, and Donald Westlake (have not tried his Parker books yet under the Stark name). In short, there is a ton of stuff folks here have probably read over and over that I have not even started yet.
On a side note, I still prefer reading paperbacks and try to find this format when possible. I also look for certain artwork for my covers when available. Robert McGinnis and Mitchell Hooks are two of my favorite artists, but I will also hit my Kindle when the electronic version is cost effective.
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I'm curious about Craig Rice, I haven't tried anything yet by her.
I hope you enjoy your stay here.
Hi, Bill. I have one novel by Craig Rice (she falls into my obsession with obscure women crime writers), but it's still unread. maybe we can work her into an all-female writer lineup for a group read some day.
Algernon wrote: "Welcome Bill!I'm curious about Craig Rice, I haven't tried anything yet by her.
I hope you enjoy your stay here."
Thank for the welcome. You folks have put together an incredible resource for someone like me.
To help me get started down this genre's road a bit I found Elllery Queen paperback that had collected short stories by a number of authors. Rice's character of John J. Malone was featured in one and when I read the lines, "Her hair was the color of dyed sunlight. Her mascaraed eyes were the color of a bottomless lake in a cheap postcard, her mouth was like a recently washed strawberry. She wore enough mink to line a bathtub." I was hooked right away. I am currently reading a full Malone novel now and it has started quite well.
Nancy wrote: "Hi, Bill. I have one novel by Craig Rice (she falls into my obsession with obscure women crime writers), but it's still unread. maybe we can work her into an all-female writer lineup for a group re..."Complete coolness. Let me know if she is put into a group read. I can see her becoming one of my favorite authors of this genre very quickly. So far, characters you care and want to know more about, witty, easy to follow, cleverly inserts reminders about characters throughout for those of us that need reminded, and over the top lines that make you chuckle.
Hi all! I'm Gregory. Big pulp fan in general, especially detective and crime fiction. Love all of the classics that I've read, mostly Chandler and Hammett with a number of other authors in-between that I know a lot less about. Still have a lot more to plow through over time, my bedside table is getting pretty crowded with mystery paperbacks.Also very interested in any detective stories that incorporate elements of science-fiction, or sci-fi that feels like classic crime fiction.
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You're going to need a bigger table.
Next month in our group read we have picked a science-fiction crime mystery with a robot doing the detective work
. I hope you can join us.
Hello everyone! I'm Anderson Ryle, and I have loved pulp (especially noir) since I watched The Maltese Falcon when I was about 10. I dabble a little bit in writing noir short stories, and I'm trying to read more pulp over the next few years.-Anderson Ryle
For those is West Los Angeles, I stopped in a small used bookstore, around the corner for the Nuart Movie theater, called Side-Show Books. If you are looking for out of print Pulp Fiction/Crime/Detective novels, you will not be disappointed. They have a little alcove with a small screen that shows the movie the Big Sleep on a loop. That should tell you where there heart is at.
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I would spend days inside a shop like this, but unfortunately I live thousands of miles away.
Welcome to the group, Adrien and Anderson!
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