Anyone else NOT reading A Dance with Dragons yet?

[Trike]

Did you not see King Kong? Fully 60% of that movie is bloat. It's so bloated it's practically a dead body drifting in to shore.

[[deleted user]]

Ugh, King Kong. I'd forgotten about that horridness

[Lara Amber]

Trike wrote: "Did you not see King Kong? Fully 60% of that movie is bloat. It's so bloated it's practically a dead body drifting in to shore."

Not only did I see King Kong. I watched it again at Red Rocks. Watching it under the stars in a world famous natural rock amphitheater? Damn good night.

[Chris]

I love Red Rocks. Used to watch concerts there in the day.

[Trike]

Dinosaur stampede. Nuff said.

[colleen the convivial curmudgeon]

I thought King Kong was decent enough while they were on the island, and started sucking hard once they left it.

[Kevin]

Jeremy A. wrote: "For that matter it took five years between Storm of Swords and and A Feast for Crows. On top of it, Martin claimed in a note at the end of AFfC that the next book (which was originally just half of..."

Don't forget that A Dance With Dragons was suppose to be the next book or the second book in the trilogy that A Song of Ice and Fire was suppose to be. It was on both the first edition book jacket of A Game of Thrones and A Clash of Kings.

[Chris]

Wow. Looks like Kevin has shifted his vendetta program to GRRM lately.

[Kevin]

Chris wrote: "Wow. Looks like Kevin has shifted his vendetta program to GRRM lately."

Hey, there are many people out there that has given up on George R.R. Martin. If you read that article I posted in message 354 about the article written over at Black Gate's website, then you know how I feel Chris.

[Chris]

So give up on him. Move on to something else. No need to get your panties in a bunch and troll every group on GR with flaming bullshit about it.

[Yefim]

That article was pretty much nothing but hurt feelings and whining. Still, as someone who struggles with bloat in my own writing, I can understand GRRM. The solution, I've discovered, is to make a really detailed outline of what you want to tell (I'm doing it down to every 500 words), then start cutting mercilessly. That way, you can kill it before you start writing.

I was hoping that GRRM had realized his predicament and was doing something similar. However, ADWD clearly proves me wrong as it's still mostly fluff and bloat. And by the gods, man, stop adding new characters when you've got plenty of existing ones.

Of course, none of that stopped me from waiting in line for 10 hours just to meet the man and get my copy of ADWD signed.

[Kevin]

Chris wrote: "So give up on him. Move on to something else. No need to get your panties in a bunch and troll every group on GR with flaming bullshit about it."

Hey, I love his books, but I'm just pointing out some of my concerns that many have about him along with some of the people. Why do you target me, when others feel, and have stated same of the same concerns on this thread , and in other threads and groups on Goodreads or other places on the internet.

[Chris]

Concerns, sure. Right now we can all pull for the Giants in the Super Bowl for him.

Let's hope they kick Tom Brady and his band of cheatin' primadonnas to the curb!

[Cynthia]

Evilynn wrote: "Toulouse-Lautrec except for the alcoholism..." Lautrec was a lord who frequented brothels and was adored by the prostitutes because he was kind to them. Most of his paintings are of the prostitutes. He had the deformity of very short legs. The Martin character is a lord, frequents brothels, is adored by the prostitutes because he is kind to them and has very short legs.

[Cynthia]

Jeremy A. wrote: "For that matter it took five years between Storm of Swords and and A Feast for Crows. On top of it, Martin claimed in a note at the end of AFfC that the next book (which was originally just half of..."

LOL, well I am surely wrong about the time span. I never bothered to read the notes. I read all the books one right after the other a few months ago, so the books struck me as having the problems of being rushed, a faulty assumption of mine. I suspect that whoever said that once Martin became famous the editors stopped editing him must be correct. It happens with famous actors that those who should be correcting their performances are afraid to do so and say nothing to the performers about their performance flaws. It's not hard to imagine that happening here.

[Reginac1]

I deposed the producer of King Kong once, when I worked as an enforcement attorney for the SEC. The only thing I remember is when he said in a very Italian accent, "Everybody cry when monkey die..."

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Reginac1 wrote: "I deposed the producer of King Kong once, when I worked as an enforcement attorney for the SEC. The only thing I remember is when he said in a very Italian accent, "Everybody cry when monkey die...""

I dunno why, but that made me LOL for a good minute

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I suppose Martin is someone I need to read as a fantasy reader and struggling writer even though I've largely considered him not my thing based on multiple discussions and reviews. But that's likely a task for another time.

[Chris]

I'd actually recommend The Elements of Style.

[Dawn]

Chris wrote: "I'd actually recommend The Elements of Style."

!!!!

♥

[[deleted user]]

House style here is actually The Chicago Manual of Style, 15th Edition, but quick Web-based posts are best kept at a less formal level.

[Chris]

I wouldn't know. I'm not smart enough to be an author.

[Lara Amber]

Chicago??? Please, MLA all the way.

And while we're on it: use the Oxford comma, two spaces after the period ending a sentence, and punctuation only goes inside the quote marks if the section inside the quote marks is a complete sentence.

There, all solved.

[Dawn]

I'll just settle for commas, where appropriate, and line breaks in between paragraphs :P

[[deleted user]]

Lara Amber wrote: "Chicago??? Please, MLA all the way."

I didn't pick the guide, but I'm stuck writing and editing for it. (My previous career was APA though.)

[Stan]

Lara Amber wrote: "Chicago??? Please, MLA all the way.

And while we're on it: use the Oxford comma, two spaces after the period ending a sentence, and punctuation only goes inside the quote marks if the section ins..."

I'm with you on the MLA, but from my experience with the Chicago style, I'm pretty sure it uses the Oxford comma.

[Lara Amber]

Stan wrote: "I'm with you on the MLA, but from my experience with the Chicago style, I'm pretty sure it uses the Oxford comma. "

Well at least they got something right. :) Now if we could just fix the pizza!

[Andre]

Lara Amber wrote: "Well at least they got something right. :) Now if we could just fix the pizza! "

What's wrong with the pizza!?

[Lara Amber]

Andre wrote: "What's wrong with the pizza!?"

It doesn't come with a bottle of honey?

http://www.beaujos.com

[Stan]

Lara Amber wrote: "Stan wrote: "I'm with you on the MLA, but from my experience with the Chicago style, I'm pretty sure it uses the Oxford comma. "

Well at least they got something right. :) Now if we could just fi..."

My wife's from New York, and she has tried her best to take me to all the best New York pizza places. I'm sorry to say that Chicago pizza is better.

However, the best pizza I've ever had was at Moose's Tooth in Anchorage, Alaska.