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Sophie (kurosymph) | 136 comments DISCLAIMER: I am currently on a HtM induced high and am absolutely not responsible for what I write.

First things first: IT WAS FREAKING FANTASTIC!!!!
Even though I got spoilered about Pritkin and Cassie's lineage, the way it was written... it made me cry like a little girl and muttering to myself in the middle of the night.

The original take on Norse mythology delighted me! All the more since there isn't much of it in the UF area. Now KC managed to turn it in a quasi-prophecy (takes hat off, bows.). Speaking about it I've got a shitload of theories about everything in HtM, most of which will be dumped on your head somewhere in the next post.

Also I loved Cassie reaction when she figured out the mage was actually her dad! Oh dear my father is a lameass! It was so hysterically funny ( and quite easy to figure out), especially if you reread the part with him and Agnes in CtD.
Someone made a comment about Cassie's mom and Ragnar being like Cassie and Pritkin; I beg to disagree: in the next gen Cassie is the shrieking one, lol! (and now we know where it comes from^^)

After this book I'm rooting even more for a Cassie/ Pritkin relationship, althuogh I don't dislike Mircea; I think his control-the-woman issue is probably due to Dory’s mother being killed by Vlad while Mircea was away.

I think she should be with Pritkin for all the reasons you mentionned in this thread, but for me the most important reason is that Cassie can't draw emotional strength from Mircea after the geis is broken, whereas she does it quite often with her mom (the dragon duel) and Pritkin ("you're the strongest person I know").
This shows more than anything else that while she does feel secure with Mircea she doesn't love him like she loves the two others.

But the love triangle is so.... balanced, unlike most of the others series. For example in Vampire Academy it was very inlikely Rose would end up with anyone else than Dimitri, or that Mac (from the Fever series) wouldn't be with Barrons...

Here the stakes are on the same level (despite Cassie dating Mircea) and it's easy to see the 'for' and 'against' from different point of view:

I could say that the attraction between Cassie and Pritkin stems from Pritkin constantly almost dying for her which gives it a sense of sacrifice= love and of not eternal= precious, added to the fact that Pritkin is fascinating because of the novelty he brings in Cassie's life.
I could also say (and it would be just as unfair) that Mircea is someone who would ensure her security , only he wouldn't let her remain free. He's just the available guy, etc.

I've got to say, HtM must be the only non- erotica book whose main character spends half the book naked! ^^


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Sophie (kurosymph) | 136 comments And now on the theories! *rubs hands together*

- How will she get Pritkin out? Earlier on the thread several person mentionned the possibility of Cassie giving Rosier her and Pritkin's child to free him. DO you think PRITKIN will agree to THAT?! I mean, it's essentially trading his child's freedom for his own, anf subjecting him/her to the same torments he had to endure! From his POV it would make of him every bit as much a monster as Rosier, who did after all exactly the same thing to his son! Though it would put Cassie in an interesting dilemna...

See now I've got this little scene floating around in my head. So far Cassie hasn't inherited any abilities from her mom, apart maybe from the ghost-talking. What if she actually had power "over the pathways and the hells"? I can SO imagine her shutting down every path between Earth and the demon realms in order to blackmail Rosier! 'If you don't let Pritkin go you'll all starve to death!' Mwahhaha hahaha... that would be a hell (heh!) of a power boost, and a crazy awesome move. Though I'm sure KC will find a way to do it, where Cassie ends up with at least a dozen bruises! o_o


- Morrigan is lying. That or Fey politics are insane. She said the Green Fey kidnapped her husband, and forced her to off Cassie, thereby (or so they thought) breaking the Ouroboros/Ephesian spell. Which would mean the Alorestri are on the Aesir's (ie Ares, Apollo, every other aggressive god...) side. So why did the Dark Fey King want the Ephesian spell in the Codex Merlini, if he were opposing them? Did he want to keep it for himself adn ensure that it didn't fall into the Greens' hand, or was he their accomplice all along. If so is Morrigan the deceived one or is she on her husband's side?

- Last part of the 'prophecy' is about the Weres. I bet their ancestors are the offspring of Fenrir and a human.

Voila, that's all the more or less sane ones I've come up with. So far.


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Sophie (kurosymph) | 136 comments Oh and yes on the cliffhanger (is it really?)... I assumed Cassie was going to stalk Casanova for information about the demon realms, not that she was headed towards Faerie.

YAY for Cassie on this one, she's becoma a full-fledged badass!

And sorry for the triple post. u_u'


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Nichole (DirrtyH) (dirtyh) | 21 comments Sophie wrote: "How will she get Pritkin out? Earlier on the thread several person mentionned the possibility of Cassie giving Rosier her and Pritkin's child to free him. DO you think PRITKIN will agree to THAT?! I mean, it's essentially trading his child's freedom for his own, anf subjecting him/her to the same torments he had to endure! From his POV it would make of him every bit as much a monster as Rosier, who did after all exactly the same thing to his son! Though it would put Cassie in an interesting dilemna..."

I really don't see KC going the baby route. There will be some kind of loophole built in and Cassie will find it. It will probably be somewhat anticlimactic, as the breaking of the geis was, and then Pritkin will be super angry with her for coming after him and putting herself in danger and everything will go back to normal.

So why did the Dark Fey King want the Ephesian spell in the Codex Merlini, if he were opposing them?

Are we sure that was the spell he wanted? Didn't he just ask for the Codex? Maybe I have forgotten but I don't think he specified what he wanted it for. It's just that that spell was the reason Pritkin didn't want it found.


Valerie ~ Val Hall ~ | 1164 comments Pritkin said that most of the anti-spell had already been discovered while the Codex was missing. So of all the spells in the Codex....it was the most likely to be wanted was the Ephesian letters. As for the fey, I can't keep them straight...who's the dark fey? The Blarestri or the Svarestri? I think I need to dust up midnight's daughter, Marlowe explained it well at the time.


Jessica | 69 comments Sophie wrote: "How will she get Pritkin out? Earlier on the thread several person mentionned the possibility of Cassie giving Rosier her and Pritkin's child to f..."

I agree that Pritkin, or Cassie for that matter would never agree to turn a kid over to Rosier. That just doesn't jive with their characters and their sense of right and wrong. You're totally reading my mind, I thinking that Cassie might have inherited some kind of power from her mom to help her get Pritkin back since she was supposed to have power over the hells and pathways between worlds. I like you're idea about starving them out, that would be hilarious!

Morrigan is lying.

I was thinking this too. All the reasons you said, and it just kind of makes sense that the fey would want the gods back. If Apollo was to be believed, he said that Faerie had been in decline ever since they were cut off from the gods magic. I'm thinking maybe that's why they're having fertility problems.

I was trying to figure out who's going to be standing in for Odin vs. Fenrir, and at first I discounted Morrigan because she was connected to Tyr/Ares and not Odin. So, I went looking for some god or character that might be related to him somehow. I couldn't find much that seemed like it might work with the story so far. Then I thought about how Morrigan is associated with crows, and remembered that Odin had the two ravens Hugin and Munin.

So, I took another look at Morrigan and found a reference that said in Celtic mythology Morrigan was thought to have had an affair with Dagda. I looked up Dagda and found out that he was sometimes known as the All-Father, and All-Father happens to be a name that Odin was also known as. Another thing about Dagda was that for a time he was the King of the Tuatha Dé Danann, who are often associated with or thought of being the fey.

So to put it simply, I think that Morrigan is going to be the big bad standing in for Odin.

One of the most common bits of knowledge about Fenrir was that he was chained and imprisoned by the gods. He breaks out of his bonds at the beginning of Ragnarok and then slays Odin. I also came across some references that said that in some norse poems Garm was thought to be the same being as Fenrir.

Since Cassie's dad is supposed to be Garm and his soul has been imprisoned for all this time, I thought that maybe someone's going to bust him out and he'll kill Morrigan. Or maybe the trap his soul is in will be used to trap or kill her.

LOL, I'm loving this mythological mystery stuff. If I'd been so enthusiastic about research when I was in school my teachers would have thought I'd been body snatched.


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Sophie (kurosymph) | 136 comments @Val: The Fey are first divided into the Light and the Dark.
The Light is composed of 3 (main?)houses:

- the Blasrestri, Blue Fey, currently holding the royal position ( And also the ones who worshipped the Vanir, the old fertility gods). Caedmon, Heidar and Claire belong to it. They hold power over the vegetation (which btw leads me to believe Pritkin has Blarestri blood, as he does nearly the same thing in CtD as Caedmon did with the vines in MD. Coincidence?)

- The Svarestri, Black (? not sure) Fey, competing for the crown with Aesubrand, a BlaSva hybrid. They used to worship the Aesir, gods of battle, and can control the elements.

-the Alorestri, Green Fey, are the one we know the least about. Nothing about their specific power, gods, nor do we know any Green Fey. Just that they share a border with the dark fey and are the ones having the most problems with their decreasing population. I think Francoise was hold captive there, and that it's Rasputine and Tony's current hideout.

The Dark Fey are the one who don't seem human. Dory speculates that they were originally the light Fey's failed experiments: dragons, pixies, trolls.

That helps? ^_o


Valerie ~ Val Hall ~ | 1164 comments Thanks Sophie!

I think I'll need a reread of the Dory books before the next one comes out. My memory is fickle...all I remembered was the Caedmon and Aesubrand where of opposing houses.


Aleksandra (AlexZiel) | 158 comments Jessica wrote: "It just occurred to me that Cassie and Pritkin together could be considered to represent all of the different types of beings in their universe. So, just for the sake of my point, if they had a child that child would be part human, god, demon, and fey.
"

Only that genetics is a surprising little f***er, and the child could end up completely human as well. ;-)


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Sophie (kurosymph) | 136 comments @ Jessica

And then Pritkin stomps in, demands to know what she is doing and orders her to leave him behind as always. There the two of them start bickering in front of the whole Assembly of demon Lords. ^^

Yea the mytho stuff is fascinating! With the Cerberus/ Garm/ Fenrir link it's entirely possible. But Ragnar must be a human, Niall called him so, or at 'least' a demigod.

I gotta do some research on the name too, KC said in an interview that almost all of them (except the cameos) contained important clues about the plot.

Eeeep! * tries to hide geek side*


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Jessica | 69 comments Aleksandra wrote: "Jessica wrote: "It just occurred to me that Cassie and Pritkin together could be considered to represent all of the different types of beings in their universe. So, just for the sake of my point, i..."

I may not have phrased that right. I was just using the example of a kid to unify it, and just confused my own point. Forget I said kid, lol there is no kid.

All I meant was that I thought it was interesting that between the two of them, there's a little bit of all the different beings there. Pritkin being demon, human, and part fey. Cassie being half god and human.

So the two of them as a whole, whether it be as a team or a couple are like a unification of all the different races.


Aleksandra (AlexZiel) | 158 comments Recently I've read some other book, quite fun actually, that provided a different take on clairvoyance ("Deadly Remains" by K. Bayless). In her world it's all about touching (it's actually a seriously depressing sometimes that you can't really control seeing). And that gives me the idea that maybe if Cassie gets to control her Pythia's powers better since she's got the energy boost from Pritkin. Then, maybe, she'd be able to get some sort of a reading from Rosier and blackmail him. ;-P

However, the idea of using her godly connections to blackmail the entire demon realms is also great, and it would provide loads of hilarious stuff.

Yet stil, I think that Cassie making faces to Rosier, scaring the shit out of him, because she'd let some intel go round... Those scenes would make my day! ;-P Just as the line: "Boyfriend needed, hazardous-duty pay" And yeah... I also can see Marsden doing that. ;-P


Aleksandra (AlexZiel) | 158 comments Jessica wrote: "So the two of them as a whole, whether it be as a team or a couple are like a unification of all the different races.
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I can see your point. I agree. It also gives the KC's universe a sense of balance, I think. ;-)


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Sophie (kurosymph) | 136 comments The condensed MAGIC.


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Aleksandra (AlexZiel) | 158 comments Sophie wrote: "The condensed MAGIC."

You've just reminded me that the institution of MAGIC as a sort of UN made me also think about how every creature has some sort of magic in them. Whether it's magic per se, potions, glamourie or just language, doesn't really matter. The fact is that magic is all around us and those two unify all sorts of it. I love that notion. ;-)


Jessica | 69 comments Sophie wrote: "@ Yea the mytho stuff is fascinating! With the Cerberus/ Garm/ Fenrir link it's entirely possible. But Ragnar must be a human, Niall called him so, or at 'least' a demigod. ."

I agree, I was thinking that in this case Garm being Hel's watchdog was probably just figurative. That he was her watchdog in the sense that he was a protector.

And then Pritkin stomps in, demands to know what she is doing and orders her to leave him behind as always. There the two of them start bickering in front of the whole Assembly of demon Lords. ^^

I would pay so much money to see that!


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Enjee | 1194 comments Mod
Jessica wrote: "So the two of them as a whole, whether it be as a team or a couple are like a unification of all the different races..."

Don't forget the Weres.


Aleksandra (AlexZiel) | 158 comments Enjee wrote: "Jessica wrote: "So the two of them as a whole, whether it be as a team or a couple are like a unification of all the different races..."

Don't forget the Weres."


But it was mentioned, Weres and Vamps are humans, cursed, but still. ;-D


Aleksandra (AlexZiel) | 158 comments I was just searching through KC's quotes and when I stumbled upon that one I couldn't help but notice how it's changed its meaning after HtM revelations... ;-)

"And I just couldn't take it anymore. I closed the distance between us, slammed him back against the chair and kissed him, holding his head still with both my hands buried in that stupid, stupid hair. I half expected more resistance, because Pritkin had never met an argument he didn't like. So it was a shock when he ran his hands down my sides, cupped my hips and slid us both to the floor.
"I'm going straight to hell for this," he muttered.
"At least you'll know a lot of people," I said breathlessly. "
— Karen Chance (Curse the Dawn)


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♥ Ashleigh ♥  Contrary to popular belief I'm not actually mad! (cheshire_red) lol i loved that scene. ^^
i bet the first thing cassie notices when she see's pritkin agian (as long as he's not hurt) will be his hair, lol she totally thinks his hair is evil. >.<


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Sophie (kurosymph) | 136 comments @Aleksandra: YEAH, How awesome is that?! And wait for it, the same forshadowing in EtN!!

'"You bastard"I gasped, when we finally broke apart."Iknew you were cheating!"The taste of coffee had been rich and bitter in his mouth.
"Miss Palmer..."
"I'm lying in your bed. You just kissed me senseless. I think you can risk using my first name."
"I'm risking enough as it is", he muttered

So in fact Rosier was double-setting him up! Having him kill Cassie and then using it as an excuse to jerk him back in the demon realms!


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Sophie (kurosymph) | 136 comments Jessica wrote: "So the two of them as a whole, whether it be as a team or a couple are like a unification of all the different races..."


Speaking of it... Why wasn't there any demon representative in the old MAGIC? They had Weres, mages, vamps, and Feys....

Maybe demons aren't even recognized as a magical species, as there is thousands of demon species. Or maybe they didn't bother sending an ambassador... Who'd want to argue with food?


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Jessica | 69 comments Speaking of it... Why wasn't there any demon representative in the old MAGIC? They had Weres, mages, vamps, and Feys....

Maybe demons aren't even recognized as a magical species, as there is thousands of demon species. Or maybe they didn't bother sending an ambassador... Who'd want to argue with food?
..."


I think they're too different for that, for one thing all but a few of them are incorporeal. Then there's the whole food thing you mentioned. I think they're generally thought of as being pretty nasty creatures. There seem to be incubi thick on the ground, but they're thought of as being a fairly benign variety.

As for there being a lot of different species, there are a lot of different types of fey too.

I guess I was thinking of it more as the types of beings from the different realms. Humans are from Earth, Fey from Faerie, Gods/ land unknown, Demons/demon realms.

Does anyone know if the demon realms have a name as a whole, just individual names? Maybe we'll find out more about how that works in the Pritkin shorts.


Aleksandra (AlexZiel) | 158 comments Jessica wrote: "oes anyone know if the demon realms have a name as a whole, just individual names? Maybe we'll find out more about how that works in the Pritkin shorts.
"


I'd love that! I'm craving for some hellish reality. ;-)

And for Pritkin, of course.... I wonder how long will it take to put them on. A year since the first publication should be misery enough... ;-/


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Sophie (kurosymph) | 136 comments Nope, the name was never mentionned.(but The Fey call Faerie Eluen Londe)

On the other side amybe we can guess at the number of realms there is. According to Jonas there are nine hell regions, and then Niall said Earth is an upper hell. This seems to be common Fey lore, as Olga says the same thing to Dory in DM (not to mention a hell of a clever twist!). That would make of Faerie what, the topmost hell/ a heaven?

Assuming a 'realm' stands for a world, bot just a court/ nation that makes seven to eight demon realms. Gulp. No wonder they need to regulate the numbers of demons on Earth. Wouldn't want to empty the stocks so soon, would they?


Aleksandra (AlexZiel) | 158 comments I wouldn't mind some incubi with manners to sort through... ;-P Ok, maybe I would after all. But, since we're already living in Hell, it could be a consolation prize... ;-P


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Esra (lostnspace) | 5 comments Aori wrote: "I am disappointed with this book. I have been looking forward to the Coronation, Mircea's court, and itty bitty clues about Dory, but to no avail! I must say I was surprised about Cassie and who sh..."

I agree with you !.
I'm a huge mircea fan and I don't like the way author write about mircea in this book. cassie literally cheated on mircea with pritkin. and she doesn't felt guilty about it at all. Y'all think mircea put her in a prison like life but he really loves her and protect her, he's a god damned vampire :D give him a break. yes he doesn't have to do this but ...never mind. cassie is not deserve him. so live my mircea alone cassie , go f... with pritkin !


Aleksandra (AlexZiel) | 158 comments Esra wrote: "cassie literally cheated on mircea with pritkin. and she doesn't felt guilty about it at all. "

Just a sec girl, hold your horses. She does feel guilty and thinks about telling him the truth. It's just difficult as she realizes that this time there was sth more going on than just "aiding" a man in need... ;-P


Aleksandra (AlexZiel) | 158 comments Another thought. Since I've read all those posts about Cassie and a kid... I can't wipe the mental image from my head out - Cassie in hormones-induced-frenzy... I bet she would've scared the shit out of the prospective father... ;-D


Sheyla ✎ (mrsleifs) she says she feels guilty this time. She has feelings for Pritkin that she doesn't want to admit


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Cher | 33 comments Jessica wrote: "Cher wrote: "loved the book but I have a question. Why did Pritkin go to hell? They didn't have sex at the end but he did give her energy.Is this the reason or because he gave her energy and he was..."

thank you Jessica.That makes sense


Jessica | 69 comments Esra wrote: "I'm a huge mircea fan and I don't like the way author write about mircea in this book. cassie literally cheated on mircea with pritkin. and she doesn't felt guilty about it at all. Y'all think mircea put her in a prison like life but he really loves her and protect her, he's a god damned vampire :D "

I guess she did technically cheat, but it's like she said, he would have died. She couldn't let him die for the sake of fidelity. She did say she was feeling guilty about it though, when she was in the shower at mage HQ. She just wasn't sure why.

As far as people saying that he basically tries to imprison her, I guess I look at if from my own perspective. If my husband started telling me where I could go, who I could talk to, how to do my job, whether he thought it was in my own best interests or not, he wouldn't be my husband for much longer.


Aleksandra (AlexZiel) | 158 comments Jessica wrote: "As far as people saying that he basically tries to imprison her, I guess I look at if from my own perspective. If my husband started telling me where I could go, who I could talk to, how to do my job, whether he thought it was in my own best interests or not, he wouldn't be my husband for much longer."

That's exactly how I see it. There's no balance in that relationship.


Valerie ~ Val Hall ~ | 1164 comments Jessica wrote: "If my husband started telling me where I could go, who I could talk to, how to do my job, whether he thought it was in my own best interests or not, he wouldn't be my husband for much longer. "

The only problem with that I fear is that divorce must be rare in the vampire community at large. I think it is more 'until death do us part' kind of thing. Can a 'wife' be given away to another master vampire?.


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Aleksandra (AlexZiel) | 158 comments I was thinking about that as well. Mircea cannot exactly unclaim her... And I doubt Pritkin would ever consider a lover's position in Cassie's life... ;-P

On the other hand. If it was not the case of vamp vs mage but a vamp vs vamp, both masters. I suppose, some sort of a "transfer" would have been possible.

Anyway, she can always send one of them to... Jurassic... ;-P


Valerie ~ Val Hall ~ | 1164 comments the Jurassic? Not sure it's a good idea...dead meat must not be very appealing so Mircea would survive it. With all his knowledge of history he could do a mighty mess of the timeline just for spite.


Aleksandra (AlexZiel) | 158 comments Valerie ~ Val Hall ~ wrote: "the Jurassic? Not sure it's a good idea...dead meat must not be very appealing so Mircea would survive it. With all his knowledge of history he could do a mighty mess of the timeline just for spite."

And wouldn't that make an awesome spin-off? ;-)
I love it when people play with fire... ;-D


Jessica | 69 comments Valerie ~ Val Hall ~ wrote: "The only problem with that I fear is that divorce must be rare in the vampire community at large. I think it is more 'until death do us part' kind of thing. Can a 'wife' be given away to another master vampire?"

I'm not really sure how that would work. There should be some kind of out, considering he was half out of his mind, he never asked, and she never consented.

Things like that are one of the reasons I never warmed up to Mircea as a love interest. I was put off the minute he started referring to her as his possession, and I don't think it would have bothered me if he had meant it figuratively, but it seems to be more statement of fact to him than feeling.

As it stands, I just can't see him and Cassie ending up together. If he has a major attitude adjustment towards her, then maybe. It was sort of hinted at in HtM. When he was freaking out on her, telling her that he didn't know how to protect her, and she's like... don't, just help me. That may foreshadow his realizing that she's her own person, she has a job she has to do, and that he can't treat her like she's made of glass. Lol I hope not, because I still want her with Pritkin, but if he can manage it then I'll at least see some potential there.

It's funny though, my sister and I are both hardcore Prikin fans, and my mother is a die-hard Mircea fan. Our book discussions tend to get a bit heated, lol!


Aleksandra (AlexZiel) | 158 comments Jessica wrote: "It's funny though, my sister and I are both hardcore Prikin fans, and my mother is a die-hard Mircea fan. Our book discussions tend to get a bit heated, lol! "

I envy you... I had to teach a friend of mine English so she could read the books and talk with me. At least I made an effort and she's now open to a whole range of reading possibilities, yet still. I so much wish I had a sister, or even a cousin with whom I could open a bottle of wine, sit down on the porch of my mother's house and just giggle about books, our heroes, and other whatnot.

As to Mircea's attitude shift. A- I don't think that's possible, after all after so many years being the way he is, and B - it's not just his attitude that puts me off. I can't quite place it, it's sth to do with the annoying sort-of-perfection of his, but anyhow, I can't imagine a girl like Cassie with him for good. (And yeah, maybe it has sth to do with me being a total Pritkin freak... ;-])


Valerie ~ Val Hall ~ | 1164 comments I'll come sit on your porch any day Alwksandra...only the little swim the spam of an ocean to consider. I do not know what I would do without GR.


Aleksandra (AlexZiel) | 158 comments Valerie ~ Val Hall ~ wrote: "I'll come sit on your porch any day Alwksandra...only the little swim the spam of an ocean to consider. I do not know what I would do without GR."

I have no idea why I haven't joined earlier... I guess, no time at all being a factor.
Anyway, If you ever make that swim, you're more than welcome to join me. ;-) Though, I wonder how long would it take, considering I've managed to read 3 rather longish books on my flight to New York from Warsaw. Makes me wonder how long the Titanic would take... ;-P

Cheers!


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Esra (lostnspace) | 5 comments "I’d enjoyed it. Kind of a lot. Okay, a hell of a lot"
"Was I feeling like I’d cheated on him? I thought about it for a while, but that didn’t feel quite right, either"
yes it's cheating because she's enjoyed a lot :D
every f... time when pritkin needs heal thing cassie is there to make out and save him right :=)))

sorry guys , I just can't except this point of view. she's with someone (and she says loving him) and she still feels something about somebody else. so she trully doesn't love mircea. she just using him for protection :D she just feeling secure with him. it's just that. it's not love. She's in love with pritkin. She have to leave from mircea. mircea'd never leave her though :=)))


Jessica | 69 comments Aleksandra wrote: "I envy you... I had to teach a friend of mine English so she could read the books and talk with me..."

Well, it's great when we all agree, but when we don't there tend to be fireworks lol! Especially when we're on the Pritkin/Mircea topic. My mother actually pulls out "the look". How unfair is that?!??

I've managed to get my husband to start reading these books, that's really great. We're very like-minded and tend to agree on most things. He's reading EtN right now. He's convinced Cassie will end up with Pritkin, he won't even entertain the idea of anything else.

That's really great that you taught your friend English, was it hard? I have to learn Estonian when I get back to Tallinn and I'm expecting to have some trouble with it. I barely picked up any when I was there last year.

As far as Mircea goes, I don't think it's impossible for him to start looking at Cassie in a new light. I don't view him as being very flexible either, but I think he's capable of altering his perception of one person. He may be stubborn, but he's also supposed to be intelligent. I personally hope he doesn't, if he keeps acting the way he does, all the better for Pritkin!

I think another reason that I was put off by him was that they never really had a romance. He was just there with his "I'm an incredibly hot vampire" self, and they just kind of fell into bed with each other. There wasn't any building the relationship; getting to know each other, growing close, sexual tension. It just sort of ...was.


Jessica | 69 comments Aleksandra wrote: "And for Pritkin, of course.... I wonder how long will it take to put them on. A year since the first publication should be misery enough... ;-/ "

There haven't been any specific dates since the first time last year. Aside from that, I read an interview from last month where KC said they would be up soon, she also said that on her FB right after HtM came out.

I really hope they'll be up soon. I know she said that she pulled them from her site last year because they weren't up to snuff, but after reading HtM I wonder if it was also because they hit too close to the content in this last book.


Aleksandra (AlexZiel) | 158 comments Jessica, I agree with you all the way.

As to teaching English, it's kind of what people do after studying English Philology in Poland, other than translation. I've had my deal of teaching and I love it to be honest, not as much as writing, reading, and discussing things, or translation, but, nevertheless teaching is awesome when you read your pupils essays and see the progress, or when they come to you, cheeks on fire and tell you they'd actually understood what that song was about. ;-)
Yet still, teaching an adult from the scratch... It's challenging. ;-)
The biggest problem for me is that languages come to me easily. I speak Polish, German, Spanish, English, and a tiny little bit of Japanese, still I'm able to understand quite well a number of family-related ones. When I stumble upon a person lacking ANY language skills, being afraid of employing what she knows on top of everything I get really, really frustrated. (That's the time when I so much wish there was the flashy-spelly-firework-kind of magic in the world and I could play with it in a bunker.) ;-D


Aleksandra (AlexZiel) | 158 comments Jessica wrote: "I really hope they'll be up soon. I know she said that she pulled them from her site last year because they weren't up to snuff, but after reading HtM I wonder if it was also because they hit too close to the content in this last book. "

Probably, although everything else aside, it's kind of unfair to release sth and then take it back. Especially that these shorts were supposed to ease our pain of having to wait another year for HtM...


Jessica | 69 comments I've been wondering about what Mircea said about Cassie's dad. How he was taking dangerous, unstable magical items off Tony's hands for free. This was apparently an unusual thing to do.

This is just a theory, but I was thinking that maybe her parents were the ones that made the trap that has Roger/Ragnar's soul in it.

First, the reason I think they may have done something like that was because they knew that if something happened to both of them, the ouroboros spell would be broken. So, it makes sense that they would have devised a way to make sure that that couldn't happen.

I know Mircea told Cassie that Tony had some dark mage make it, but maybe that was a set up. Roger and Artemis could have let it slip on purpose that they were planning to run off. Cassie's dad could have glamored himself to look like someone else, or just let the glamor he was using drop and been the dark mage that Tony got it from. I realize that the vamps could have scented him, but the things Mircea said he scented were all things that could be changed; tobacco, cologne, hair pomade.

All the new information about Cassie's parents make it seem unlikely to me that Tony would have gotten the drop on them like that. He killed an ancient time traveling goddess with a car bomb?


Nichole (DirrtyH) (dirtyh) | 21 comments Jessica wrote: "I'm not really sure how that would work. There should be some kind of out, considering he was half out of his mind, he never asked, and she never consented."


Unfortunately I don't think the vampire community cares about any of that. My thought is that if Cassie really, truly fell in love with someone else, that Mircea would let her go. But even then, in the vampire community's eyes, she would still belong to Mircea no matter what.


Jessica | 69 comments Adding to my post from just a minute ago...

How could Tony have managed to get anything over on her parents? If one or both of them could talk to ghosts and they were planning an escape, it seems like they would have had a ghost watching him constantly. Even if Tony and his guys were being really sneaky and not discussing their plans out loud, a ghost could still drift through their minds and find out what they were thinking like Billy Joe does.


Aleksandra (AlexZiel) | 158 comments Jessica wrote: "All the new information about Cassie's parents make it seem unlikely to me that Tony would have gotten the drop on them like that. He killed an ancient time traveling goddess with a car bomb?
"

After HtM that accident doesn't make sense to me at all. It's, first of all, hard to believe that being such a gifted clairvoyant Cassie's mum would not see it coming. Second of all, her father, was after all a mage, and one dealing with dangerous objects, he had to have some additional insurance policy intact.
Considering the clairvoyant angle, your prediction that it all could be a setup organised by Cassie's parents seems very plausible.


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