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message 1: by Monkey (new)

Monkey (reydemono) I've been brow beaten into joining this group (the best motivation for really anything) and in looking about, I realized that my profile was bare. So I started posting up some books that I'd like people to think I've read and even wrote a 10 word review of one of them.
and then I got this:
Hello, I'm considering reading this book, since one of my favorite authors liked it, but I want to know a few things about it, first.

• How much foul language does it contain, and what sorts?
• Is there any explicit sexual content? How about implicit? How about innuendos and attitudes?
• If there's violence (and I suppose there probably is), how graphic is it?
• Whose perspective does the novel take, and how deeply into that person's (or those people's) thoughts do we get?

Thanks for any help.

not even on the book that I reviewed.
is there a "Fuck you" button or something?


message 2: by Rusty (new)

Rusty (rustyshackleford) | 2198 comments Yes, this is hateable. I suppose those would be reasonable questions if you were friends or something, but you're not. Also, the s.o.b. is giving you homework.

is there a "Fuck you" button or something?

I suspect you're some kind of sock puppet, but the above is the best idea I've heard in a long time.


message 3: by smetchie (last edited Apr 11, 2011 10:47AM) (new)

smetchie | 5729 comments That's not a sock puppet, it's just a new person! I know that Monkey in real life and I invited* him here. Sheesh. So paranoid.


Stupid sock puppet.








*brow beat him into joining, apparently.


message 4: by smetchie (new)

smetchie | 5729 comments I wish there were a fuck you button. But I also wish I got anywhere near that kind of attention from strangers around here. You joined like a day ago and you don't even have a picture. What the hell?

Also, put up a picture immediately.


message 5: by Monkey (new)

Monkey (reydemono) I AM a sock puppet!
Please don't listen to her.
She is me!

And you would get that kind of attention if you read the sort of books that the 3rd sector Mormon home schooling advisory board (Sci-Fi subcommittee for upright young adventurers) is interested in.

I figured that out because his profile says he's from Utah.
so that sort of thing doesn't happen a lot?

I figured he was some kind of book review spam-bot


message 6: by smetchie (new)

smetchie | 5729 comments On which book? I want to friend him.


message 7: by Monkey (new)

Monkey (reydemono) smetchie wrote: "On which book? I want to friend him."

Fuck, I'm retarded. I can't find the message from the guy.
The book was Kraken.


message 8: by smetchie (new)

smetchie | 5729 comments lying sock puppet.


message 9: by Harry (new)

Harry  (harry_harry) • How much foul language does it contain, and what sorts?
A fair amount. Mostly of the fuck, shit, cunt variety.


message 10: by smetchie (new)

smetchie | 5729 comments Yeah that's a strange question. Are there particular sorts of foul language that are more tolerable than other sorts?? What are the categories and how do they stack up, I wonder.


message 11: by [deleted user] (new)

You should really replace your brown silhouette with an image, Monkey.

PLEASE!!!


message 12: by [deleted user] (new)

Tell that person that you don't need homework, Monkey.

Or give a really long list of questions in response.


message 13: by smetchie (new)

smetchie | 5729 comments Or give a really long list of questions in response.

HAHAHAHHAHA! I love that. Why don't you compose some questions for the response, Sarah. We haven't collectively messaged anyone for a while, now.


message 14: by [deleted user] (new)

I got the idea from the zebra who was sick of questions in this Shel Silverstein poem:

"The Zebra Question"

I asked the zebra,
Are you black with white stripes?
Or white with black stripes?
And the zebra asked me,
Are you good with bad habits?
Or are you bad with good habits?
Are you noisy with quiet times?
Or quite with noisy times?
Are you happy with some sad days?
Or are you sad with some happy days?
Are you neat with some sloppy ways?
Or are you sloppy with some neat ways?
And on and on and on and on
And on and on he went.
I'll never ask a zebra
About stripes
Again.


message 15: by Harry (new)

Harry  (harry_harry) Montambeau wrote: "You should really replace your brown silhouette with an image, Monkey.

PLEASE!!!"


Yeah Monkey! I vote for #56 again.


message 16: by Monkey (new)

Monkey (reydemono) Harry wrote: "Montambeau wrote: "You should really replace your brown silhouette with an image, Monkey.

PLEASE!!!"

Yeah Monkey! I vote for #56 again."


56 it is!


message 17: by [deleted user] (new)

Thanks, Monkey! Now we can take you seriously. ;)


message 18: by Monkey (new)

Monkey (reydemono) Monkey wrote: "Harry wrote: "Montambeau wrote: "You should really replace your brown silhouette with an image, Monkey.

PLEASE!!!"

Yeah Monkey! I vote for #56 again."

56 it is!"


Now that I know how, I do want to answer him...but I can't find the message. It's not in my inbox or trash


message 19: by Monkey (new)

Monkey (reydemono) ok, so it was right on my home page there.
I wrote back:

Mark, first thing you need to know about me:

I AM SHE! (no homo)

I think can answer your first two questions at one go.
There's a LOT of fucking. Anal, double penetration, even a fair amount of hot man on man.
Is that what you are looking for... I have some pictures I could send you if you like. Do you have any pictures?

Violence -- not so much, except in the fucking; I mean there's some pretty heavy bondage and a real raw fisting scene that was so vivid, I had to take two Xanax just to get in the mood (isn't it funny how things you learn in real life can cross over into your literary world?(You don't have any poppers you could send me do you? I find those REALLY help)).

Perspective -- uh, yeah really, it's just a bunch of guys hanging out in London with a squid, so I don't think that really matters.

I see you're from Utah, I've never been! Do you ski?
I don't. I have one of those speed suits, but I've never actually used it on the slopes, it's just for going out.
write back!


message 20: by Harry (new)

Harry  (harry_harry) I'm glad Monkey was brow beaten.


message 21: by Stina (new)

Stina (stinalee) | 653 comments Harry wrote: "I'm glad Monkey was brow beaten."

Me too!!


message 22: by Harry (new)

Harry  (harry_harry) • Whose perspective does the novel take, and how deeply into that person's (or those people's) thoughts do we get?

I haven't read the book, but it sounds like it doesn't delve too deep into the person's thoughts. Sure as hell sounds like they go deep into his ass with a fist though!


message 23: by Monkey (new)

Monkey (reydemono) Harry wrote: "• Whose perspective does the novel take, and how deeply into that person's (or those people's) thoughts do we get?

I haven't read the book, but it sounds like it doesn't delve too deep into the p..."


Instead of a "Fuck you" button, I'm changing my vote to a "Heavy Anal" button


message 24: by smetchie (last edited Apr 12, 2011 11:09AM) (new)

smetchie | 5729 comments Why did I want you to put up a photo again?

::furiously hates self::


message 25: by Monkey (new)

Monkey (reydemono) smetchie wrote: "Why did I want you to put up a photo again?

::furiously hates self::"


So that we can now post on the Clean Reads board.
I think they require a picture.


message 26: by Stina (new)

Stina (stinalee) | 653 comments OH MY GOD! I want to tell them I quit reading the bible because of the nudity, violence and sexual situations. I get really uncomfortable if I have to picture someone begatting someone else.

Gross.


message 27: by Megan (new)

Megan Monkey wrote: "smetchie wrote: "Why did I want you to put up a photo again?

::furiously hates self::"

So that we can now post on the Clean Reads board.
I think they require a picture."


LOL thats hilarious. Normally I have at least a few friends in most groups, I have zero in that group. I wonder why.


message 28: by Megan (new)

Megan Kristina wrote: "OH MY GOD! I want to tell them I quit reading the bible because of the nudity, violence and sexual situations. I get really uncomfortable if I have to picture someone begatting someone else.

G..."


And of course there is that whole crucifixion thing....


message 29: by Harry (new)

Harry  (harry_harry) Megan aka *Mheghan* wrote: "And of course there is that whole crucifixion thing.... "

And the fisting...oh wait. Wrong book.


message 30: by Monkey (new)

Monkey (reydemono) Kristina wrote: "OH MY GOD! I want to tell them I quit reading the bible because of the nudity, violence and sexual situations. I get really uncomfortable if I have to picture someone begatting someone else.

G..."

soo, And Tango Makes Three is the "most challenged book in America"

Maybe someone should offer to post a cleaned up version for them


message 31: by Monkey (new)

Monkey (reydemono) Speaking of sex, violence and the bible, who's read
The Book of Genesis Illustrated by R. Crumb?


message 32: by Megan (new)

Megan I was looking over at the Clean Reads Group and someone wanted a similar read to Lord of the Flies, but with less violence, that they could read in school as a substitute. Someone suggested The Hunger Games. It is basically 350 pages of people slaughtering eachother for entertainment, so I hope they choose that option.


message 33: by smetchie (new)

smetchie | 5729 comments I can't look at that group. It hurts my head.


message 34: by Stina (new)

Stina (stinalee) | 653 comments Megan aka *Mheghan* wrote: "I was looking over at the Clean Reads Group and someone wanted a similar read to Lord of the Flies...

What dystopian novel doesn't have violence and/or sex and/or dirty words?

Also, someone in that group was tooting their own horn for writing "clean" romance books. She cautioned that there were casual swears, like "Dang and Heck".

WTF is IN a clean romance book? Is it a book about courting the old timey way? Does someone drop off a calling card? Are trips to the soda shop involved? Do they finally get married and then awkwardly begat some kids?


message 35: by [deleted user] (last edited Apr 12, 2011 04:25PM) (new)

I read the Love Comes Softly (heh) series by Janette Oke when I was in high school. It was Christian and set in prairie times but it was a romance. It focused mostly on the heart of the matter and not the matter of the matter.


message 37: by Megan (new)

Megan My coworker and I listen to audio books at work and try to choose "work place appropriate" books, which basically leaves us with some YA and boring romances to choose from. All day one of us is yelling "Damnnnn!!! Why don't they just do it and get it over with!!!!" or chanting "do it! *clap clap* do it! *clap clap*" over and over. Even my boss prefers us listening to "racier" books. *sigh* my job is so mind numbingly boring.....


message 38: by Megan (new)

Megan Kristina wrote: "Megan aka *Mheghan* wrote: "I was looking over at the Clean Reads Group and someone wanted a similar read to Lord of the Flies...

What dystopian novel doesn't have violence and/or sex and/or dir..."



WTF is in a clean romance? Answer: anything but sex, lots of conversations, walking, hand holding, etc.

I hope I'm not the only person who gets annoyed by fake curse words, examples:
Oh Goodness! I think I just broke my toe!
Pancakes! I just crashed the car!
Phooey! I just ran over the dog!
Geez Louise! I forgot to pick up the kids 7 hours ago!

You obviously don't mean it if you don't have the balls to say it, just saying...

I can understand not cursing in front of children, but if I hear one more person say "Oh nutterbutter!", I'm gonna lose my damn mind.


message 39: by smetchie (last edited Apr 12, 2011 06:09PM) (new)

smetchie | 5729 comments I have to admit that I think "Pancakes!" is a funny fake swear.


message 40: by smetchie (new)

smetchie | 5729 comments Oh my God I hate you people! I looked at that group and now I want to kill myself. There is a whole thread about books they had to put down because the main character was having an affair or said "fuck" or went to a psychic. IT'S FICTION!!! I can't even think straight I'm so mad. I'm dumber now. Thanks.


message 41: by Monkey (new)

Monkey (reydemono) so is it an all female club?
I looked on the "manly clean reads" and it was women discussing what to get their husbands.

smetchie wrote: "I'm dumber now. Thanks."
clean reads mission accomplished!


message 42: by Monkey (new)

Monkey (reydemono) Oddrun wrote: "maybe we should start our own? 'Th xtra clan group. W hat th filthy lttr . You will not find '' in any of our thrads or books.'"

books I had to stop reading when I realized there wasn't going to be any sex or violence
"I just had to put it down after 3 chapters when I realized the relationship was going to be platonic"


message 43: by Monkey (new)

Monkey (reydemono) New friend in Utah update:
no response yet


message 44: by Stina (new)

Stina (stinalee) | 653 comments I accidentally read a clean romance about a year ago and was PISSED. There wasn't ONE nipple standing at attention. All of the "sex scenes" just faded to black. It was one of the worst things I've ever read.


message 45: by Stina (new)

Stina (stinalee) | 653 comments Oddrun wrote: "hm, clean roleplay... Paul, 46, just home from work. 'i think i'll have a nice loong shower.'"

Paul's wife stays in the kitchen and makes meatloaf for dinner while Paul showers.


message 46: by Megan (last edited Apr 12, 2011 07:16PM) (new)

Megan From the Clean Reads Group:

"I put down My Sister's Keeper by Jodi Picoult (which I was thoroughly enjoying) because of the "F word". That word jolts me when I hear it in a movie, but when I hear it in my own voice in my head, it's particularly offensive."HAHAHAHA

"Another one I stopped reading, even though I was really enjoying it, was the Northern Light by Jennifer Donnelly. There was a kiss that involved some groping, and the description made me uncomfortable. I could not recommend this to a young person, and would hesitate to recommend it to other sensitive readers." LOL

"And I have Julie and Julia on my hold list at the library so I'm sad to hear it has F-bombs too. dang it." This is a perfect example of fake cursing.

"Lately, I also put down A Wrinkle in Time by Madeleine l'Engle when we came across the spirit medium (she had a christal ball and everything.) " A crystal ball you say? The Horrors!!!!!!!!!!!

What is wrong with people. They basically say in their comments that they don't like anything with any sex, violence, cursing, homosexuality ,drugs, alcohol etc. They only want to read about the perfect cookie-cutter life, and there is so much more to life than that and it is not realistic. Its scary to think that the people that are extremely sheltered in life grow up to be the girl that drinks her first beer, looses her virginity, gets pregnant and arrested in the same week after moving out of their parents house (this actually happened to a girl I graduated with) Of course not all people are like that, but every sheltered person from my youth was pretty damn close to that, which is sad. These, of course, were the same people who criticized other kids for having a beer Saturday night.

That group pisses me off, thanks for showing it to us Monkey, lol.

All I know is that life is not a perfect place, so only acknowledging your ideal perfect fantasy world is very ignorant of reality. I think I need a cigarette........


message 47: by Stina (new)

Stina (stinalee) | 653 comments It's making sense to me now... they're all stay-at-home LDS moms.

And Monkey, I can't stop looking at this damn group. It's a G.D. (hi Meg(h)an!) trainwreck!


message 48: by Rusty (new)

Rusty (rustyshackleford) | 2198 comments I have decided to leave this group and dedicate my time to reading the good books recommended by the Clean Reads folks. That's where I really belong. Not here with you Haters.

Y'all can fuck yourselves.


message 49: by Monkey (new)

Monkey (reydemono) Kristina wrote: "Oddrun wrote: "hm, clean roleplay... Paul, 46, just home from work. 'i think i'll have a nice loong shower.'"

Paul's wife stays in the kitchen and makes meatloaf for dinner while Paul showers."


Paul is modest and showers in his underwear
Paul's wife is always referred to as Paul's wife


message 50: by Megan (new)

Megan Rusty wrote: "I have decided to leave this group and dedicate my time to reading the good books recommended by the Clean Reads folks. That's where I really belong. Not here with you Haters.

Y'all can fuck y..."


Attaboy Rusty! *Pats Rusty on the shoulder*


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