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Novel series like the Dresden Files?

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message 301: by Damien (new)

Damien Lim | 2 comments I am glad that I stumbled onto this thread - there are quite a number of recommendations that I would like to check out.

Many have recommended Kevin Hearn's Iron Druid series is similar to the Dresden series. I have tried the first book but lost interest in the halfway through the second - There is a certain smugness in Atticus which I disliked. I think an online reviewer commented that he "thinks and acts like an oversexed frat boy" which is pretty much spot on for me.

For a similar feel of the Dresden files, I would say Ben Aaronovitch's Rivers over London series and Justin Gustanis' Haunted Scranton series.


message 302: by Mike (the Paladin), White Council (new)

Mike (the Paladin) (thepaladin) | 358 comments Mod
Hi Damien, never got into Hearn either, like Aaronovitch though. Haven't seen Gustanis, thanks. Have you found Benedict Jacka's Alex Verus books? My favorite "like Dresden" books so far.


message 303: by Damien (new)

Damien Lim | 2 comments Have you found Benedict Jacka's Alex Verus books? My favorite "like Dresden" books so far."

It's on my to-read list but work does get in the way of reading at times. BTW, for Gustanis, do note that his other (earlier) series, Quincey Morris Supernatural Investigations, is definitely not like Dresden.


message 304: by Mike (the Paladin), White Council (new)

Mike (the Paladin) (thepaladin) | 358 comments Mod
Right. I sent for the first through the library, thanks.


message 305: by Alison (new)

Alison Thanks for even more recommendations!

@ Damian - I love The Druid Chronicles because Luke Daniels as the narrator of the audiobooks does an amazing job. Same with James Marsters narrating The Dresden Files. For health reasons, these days rather than read it, I listen to most of my fiction choices and a big factor in whether or not I stick with a book is the voice of the narrator. I'm not sure I would have even picked up many of the books to which I've listened. Atticus does get serious btw ;-), but Oberon never does LOL!

Benedict Jacka's Alex Verus books are not available on audiobook and at the moment there are no plans to offer that format. This is a great shame and I hope this changes some time soon (Benedict confirmed this to me on here, but he was in favour, so fingers crossed!).


message 306: by Mike (the Paladin), White Council (new)

Mike (the Paladin) (thepaladin) | 358 comments Mod
I agree about the audio. I love audio books as I can do "other things" and still read. Had these books (the Jacks books) been available in audio I'd have snapped them up (probably from Audible) and already have finished the 3rd which I haven't gotten to yet.


message 307: by Kelly (Maybedog) (new)

Kelly (Maybedog) (maybedog) Mike, what is your definition of Urban Fantasy? Cal Leandros has all the fantastical elements hidden within normal society like most other Urban Fantasy books. Just curious.

I love Cal Leandros and I mean LOVE, but the series is VERY angsty. If you don't like angst, you'll hate them.


message 308: by Mike (the Paladin), White Council (last edited Feb 17, 2013 07:14PM) (new)

Mike (the Paladin) (thepaladin) | 358 comments Mod
Yeah I like the Leandros series pretty well. I'm not too strict in my definition. I do like to differentiation between UF and PNR but that's only because I don't care for PNR. A lot of my friends here tend to consider books UF that I think of as PNR. Still mostly I think of UF as fantasy set in the current world or at least a world "like the current world". There are some that are close, like Lisa Shearin's books (Magic Lost, Trouble Found series). These take place in an Urban setting but in a more traditional fantasy world.

I consider Butcher's Dresden, Jacka, Simon Green's Secret History and the Nightside Series, The Repairman Jack series (and possibly Wilson's Adversary series which is a tie in/ cross over with Repairman Jack. These are also somewhat horror). You mentioned the Cal Leandros series, there's also Ben Aaronovitch Rivers of London series.

That pretty much answer what you wanted to know?


message 309: by Kelly (Maybedog) (new)

Kelly (Maybedog) (maybedog) Sort of. I agree with your definition. My question is why you feel the Cal Leandros series doesn't fit that.

I don't like stuff classified as PNR, either. I do like love in my stories, but I want it to be a subplot, and I want it to be real and ongoing. I want it to build over several books, not something that happens suddenly and then there's a new romance in the next book with new characters. Eww.

I liked some stuff about the Rivers of London series but not enough to keep going with it. I'm not quite sure why, though.


message 310: by Mike (the Paladin), White Council (new)

Mike (the Paladin) (thepaladin) | 358 comments Mod
...I didn't say that???? Or if I did somewhere it came across wrong. I agree that the Leandros series is UF, it's just not one of my all time favorites. I like it okay, it's just not at the top of my list. Not sure what I said that made you think otherwise. I listed it with the Urban Fantasies I mentioned above. (?????)


message 311: by Chai and Pakoras (new)

Chai and Pakoras (chaiandpakoras) | 2 comments Have any of you read Larry Correia's Monster Hunter series? It has some elements that are similar to the Dresden Files, especially the abundance of ass-kicking.


message 312: by JPerceval (new)

JPerceval | 26 comments Off to check out Aaronovitch and Gustanis. That's the great thing about reading groups -- you get so many good recs (hard on the wallet, though!).


message 313: by Mike (the Paladin), White Council (new)

Mike (the Paladin) (thepaladin) | 358 comments Mod
Yes Aminah I'm a fan of the Monster Hunter International books. I think they're great. Correia also has another series The Grimnoir Chronicles. I'm reading the second. I don't like it as well but I still like it.


message 314: by JPerceval (new)

JPerceval | 26 comments BTW, I just started Discount Armageddon (InCryptid, #1) by Seanan McGuire and I'm enjoying the heck out of it. Two words: sentient mice.


message 315: by Bungluna (new)

Bungluna | 22 comments I read that one, JP, and am eagerly awaiting the next installment.


message 316: by Randall (new)

Randall Beem I'd say that I'm the opposite Mike, I really like the Grimnoir Chronicles better than the MH books. Something about the main character just rubs me the wrong way.


message 317: by Mike (the Paladin), White Council (new)

Mike (the Paladin) (thepaladin) | 358 comments Mod
As I've said a lot here...to each their own. It all boils down to a matter of taste I guess.


message 318: by Magicmike (new)

Magicmike | 37 comments I fully plan on reading all comments in this thread as this would've been my first post had this thread not already existed.

Not having read it yet though, I don't know if this one has been suggested yet. Check out the "Iron Druid Chronicles" very Dresdenesque


message 319: by Magicmike (new)

Magicmike | 37 comments It looks like it has! Which is good! I really want some more like them and Dresden.

I've wanted to try the Felix Castor series also....glad to see many enjoyed it.

@Allison, I really enjoy audiobooks as well and you're spot on about Marsters and the ID narrator. If you like a good story with GREAT narration Jim Dale does a FANTASTIC job.


message 320: by Alison (new)

Alison I tried twice, but couldn't get into the MHI books because they were too comic book kapow bam boom for me. Will check out The Grimnoir Chronicles though and Discount Armageddon (InCryptid #1) by Seanan McGuire - thanks!

Despite what I've said about PNR, I'm enjoying the Charley Davidson books by Darynda Jones. The first book isn't great, but the books that follow are better and made me want more (there are four in the series so far). This is definitely helped by the fact they are narrated by Lorelei King who is one of my favourite voice actors.


message 321: by Alison (new)

Alison @ Magicmike I agree about Jim Dale! Lorelei King and Kate Reading are also superb.


message 322: by Magicmike (new)

Magicmike | 37 comments I've listened to Kate Redding in the WoT series. Actually n the last one now!


message 323: by Alison (new)

Alison Funny, I was thinking about tackling the WoT series next for a bit of a change!


message 324: by Randall (new)

Randall Beem I thought about it too, Alison but I've heard not so good stuff about the middle of the series from some friends that have read it.


message 325: by Alison (new)

Alison Rj I've heard mixed things about the whole series and that's why I decided that in the end I needed just to give it a try myself.


message 326: by Affably (new)

Affably (Affably-Sociopathic) | 69 comments Alex wrote: "You might try the Jeremiah Hunt series the first book is Eyes to See. It gets dark, great read"

Please tell me he has some powers besides just seeing ghosts.


message 327: by JPerceval (new)

JPerceval | 26 comments Alison, I remember LMAO at the first Darynda Jones book, but damned if I can remember much about it now. I have the next 2 TBR all the same.

BTW, digging further into Discount Armageddon now (2 hour train trips will do that for a person) and have no complaints. I still adore the mice.


message 328: by Alison (new)

Alison @JPerceval I have laughed out loud a couple of times now (I'm on book 4) - she's good at catching you unawares! I hope Discount Armageddon comes out in audiobook format soon because I do like the sound of it. ;-D


message 329: by Magicmike (new)

Magicmike | 37 comments Here's the deal with the WoT...it's 15 books long and they're all 800-1100 pages a piece. It's an EPIC series, in all sense of the word. For those of us who've been reading it a long time...it was started 23 years ago. I myself started it 12 years ago. We had to wait for books. For a long time :).

Additionally, this series has A LOT of "main" characters and when you get the the middle of a series like this there are a lot of things going on with people In diff places, so you run into that following some characters in be book with only touches on others and then in the next it's the same but with the opposite characters. This way it gets everyone in the same time point eventually. This happens in ASOIAF too, except grrm took 7 effing years before the latest was published. I digress.

In the end it's a LOOONG series, it will take you a LOT of time to read. iMHO is it worth it? Most definitely. It has great characters that develop wonderfully. It's a very rich and full world. There are some series that you enjoy the story's world, people and environment, but it's still like you are watching the world. In the WoT, you feel immersed in it, you know all and understand where and why etc... It's really great, don't pass it up.


message 330: by Mike (the Paladin), White Council (new)

Mike (the Paladin) (thepaladin) | 358 comments Mod
You'll see a lot of different takes. I'd say read it yourself. I'm one of the ones who find the books from around vol.6 on to be very disappointing because of the repetitive storytelling and so on. Many love every word, it's a matter of to each their own. I think the early books are some of the best fantasy out there. As I said, try it yourself.


message 331: by Damian (new)

Damian (denis517) | 109 comments Magicmike wrote: "It looks like it has! Which is good! I really want some more like them and Dresden.

I've wanted to try the Felix Castor series also....glad to see many enjoyed it.

@Allison, I really enjoy audi..."

I wouldn't reommend the Felix Castor series. There's something about it I liked, but it is rather low on my "To read" list.


message 332: by Richard (new)

Richard (asmodeon5348) | 103 comments I rather liked Castor myself, its a lot darker than anything you'd find in most of the Dresden Files novels so keep that in mind if its not your thing, but they were very enjoyable.

again, while ive said it before, best work i've seen out there compared to Butcher would be Benedict Jacka's Alex Verus series, closely followed by the Iron Druid Chronicles.


message 333: by Alison (new)

Alison ASOIAF is one of my favourite series and the one that really brought home how a good voice actor could make a huge difference, so I suspect that the WoT series read by Kate Reading and Michael Kramer will be right up my street. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that Benedict Jacka's Alex Verus series comes out in audiobook format soon. ;-)


message 334: by Matthew (last edited Feb 20, 2013 01:49AM) (new)

Matthew Legaspi | 1 comments Darkcain11 wrote: "I love first person view novels anyone have any ideas on series with the same feel as the Dresden Files?"

Give Joe Ducie's the Reminiscent Exile series a try. It's first person and sort of blends Dresden, Stephen King's Dark Tower, and Doctor Who into a great series. It's only two books in so far.


message 335: by Donald (new)

Donald Allan (donalddallan) I just have to say that I adore this thread. All you people are so NICE! Plus my reading list has expanded dramatically and now I am exhausted because I still suffer from the "finish the book regardless of the hour" syndrome that I had as a child under the covers with a flshlight reading furiously...


message 336: by Mike (the Paladin), White Council (new)

Mike (the Paladin) (thepaladin) | 358 comments Mod
And that can really be costly in batteries. At least now you can use a lamp. :)


message 337: by Jeremy (new)

Jeremy (lazerwraith) | 48 comments My rechargeable batteries got a lot of wear, but now I mainly listen to audiobooks at night. Easier on the eyes, which helps me fall asleep faster.


message 338: by Mike (the Paladin), White Council (new)

Mike (the Paladin) (thepaladin) | 358 comments Mod
I do that to...though I'm not sure I fall asleep faster, LOL.


message 339: by Magicmike (new)

Magicmike | 37 comments Audiobooks are fantastic for doing anything that doesn't require calculative thought. I listen when working out, doing laundry, lunches for kids, cleaning, yard work and it awesome for my hour+ ride to the office. Nothing makes the time for such tasks better. I stopped trying to listen to them at bed time though as I hated trying to find where i left off when I fell asleep.


message 340: by Mike (the Paladin), White Council (new)

Mike (the Paladin) (thepaladin) | 358 comments Mod
LOL. I know, drop back till you don't recognize what's going on.


message 341: by Alison (new)

Alison LOL! I had exactly the same problem, so now I split my books into files 5 minute long. ;-D


message 342: by Affably (last edited Feb 22, 2013 01:58PM) (new)

Affably (Affably-Sociopathic) | 69 comments I've been meaning to make myself read Castor but its hard for me to gain traction on those. Is he the self sufficient type with at least a modest amount of power or does he rely on his friends? because I have to say I did not get a good first impression in that regard.

A small overview of his abilities at his peak would be great.


message 343: by Mike (the Paladin), White Council (new)

Mike (the Paladin) (thepaladin) | 358 comments Mod
I don't say a lot here on that series as I didn't like it and I know many do. I don't care for the character much but he's not as limited in raw power as say Alex Verus (who is probably my favorite hon-Dresden UF character). I'd say you'll just have to see what you think.

I won't go on as (like I said) I really didn't care for the series, my reviews are there on the first 2. many like these a lot, I'm just not one of them.


message 344: by Richard (new)

Richard (asmodeon5348) | 103 comments Another choice for people to consider would be Simon R Green's two series, The Secret Histories and the Nightside series, both pretty good UF's. Maybe a tad more crazy than stuff like Dresden, Castor, or Cal Leandros that does sorta minor engagements in an urban city, where Simon R Green prefers the idea of all out war, with some pretty giant goverment coverup's afterwards. But they have plenty of action, all the weird fantasy stuff you could ask for and some decent comedy thrown into the mix at times.


message 345: by Jeremy (new)

Jeremy (lazerwraith) | 48 comments Magicmike wrote: "I stopped trying to listen to them at bed time though as I hated trying to find where i left off when I fell asleep. "

My Sansa MP3 player automatically goes back to my place when it turns on, which is awesome.

Mike (the Paladin) wrote: "I do that to...though I'm not sure I fall asleep faster, LOL."

I think that melatonin production is limited by light, so being in the dark helps me fall asleep faster. Or seems to at least - either way, I prefer audiobooks when in bed. :)



I second Simon Green's books, as well.


message 346: by Magicmike (new)

Magicmike | 37 comments Green is on my list now.

BTW, my audiobook player thankfully does the same (MortPlayer Audiobooks) but if I fell asleep I won't know when :p. it has a sleep timer which can help mitigate that, but still.


message 347: by Mike (the Paladin), White Council (new)

Mike (the Paladin) (thepaladin) | 358 comments Mod
My MP3 played till it died last night and I had to recharge it today... Then I'll search for where I fell asleep.


message 348: by Richard (new)

Richard (asmodeon5348) | 103 comments yup, do that all the time, im starting to learn that when I start considering going to lie in bed and listen to the book, that its a good time to note te time its ran for, as ill probably need to rewind to there later after ive slept through everything thats happened since my head hit the pillow.


message 349: by Alison (new)

Alison That's what I do. I split the book into 5 minute slices and then make a note of the track number before setting a sleep option. Also, I never let my MP3 player's battery run down completely. I keep it on charge when I'm not using it, but before I put it on charge I don't switch it off, I just pause the track.

My MP3 player has a bookmark function, but it only works with books from certain sources e.g. Audible.


message 350: by Mike (the Paladin), White Council (new)

Mike (the Paladin) (thepaladin) | 358 comments Mod
Mine marks the place and I can just resume play.


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