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message 151: by Mike (the Paladin), White Council (new)

Mike (the Paladin) (thepaladin) | 358 comments Mod
I reading The Well of Ascension and I hate to say this, but it's not holding my attention. I mean I mostly like it when I'm in the midst of it, but when I put down I'm not dying to get back to it.


message 152: by Darkcain11, Merlin (new)

Darkcain11 | 324 comments Mod
Yes Alloy of Law was great but you kinda have to read Mistborn Trilogy first. Brandon Sanderson is amazing by the way.


message 153: by Mike (the Paladin), White Council (new)

Mike (the Paladin) (thepaladin) | 358 comments Mod
I only read the first one and got along fine... and I'm losing interest in the second volume. I guess that the Alloy of Law is a lot faster moving and much lighter. I started the second book and it's okay, but when I've laid it down I'm not dying to get back to it.


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Cjpines | 90 comments Mike (the Paladin) wrote: "I only read the first one and got along fine... and I'm losing interest in the second volume. I guess that the Alloy of Law is a lot faster moving and much lighter. I started the second book and it..."

I agree...you really should read at least the first book to understand the 'magic system' but after that Alloy will be easy to follow.

I also agree about the 2nd book being a bit dry for the first half or even a bit more but it did pick up and IMO be fairly good. The 3rd book was better but had it's short comings also.

But regardless of plot lines I enjoy Sanderson's writing style and new (at least to me) magic systems.


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Darkcain11 | 324 comments Mod
yes the second and third had its weaknesses but they were still a great read. The dry parts had to happen.


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Darkcain11 | 324 comments Mod
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Affably (Affably-Sociopathic) | 69 comments WHY is it so hard to find non-romance vampire/werewolf UF/Fantasy books these days? Any suggestions on what I could read that fits this description?


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Rimsha Salam (rimshasalam) | 14 comments Affably wrote: "WHY is it so hard to find non-romance vampire/werewolf UF/Fantasy books these days? Any suggestions on what I could read that fits this description?"

Child of Fire By Harry Connelly!


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Quick ben (senseiping) | 22 comments Affably wrote: "WHY is it so hard to find non-romance vampire/werewolf UF/Fantasy books these days? Any suggestions on what I could read that fits this description?"

Have you read October Daye,Sandman Slim,Connor Gray or Downside ghosts series? most of them are great reads and have minimal vampire/werewolf action.


message 160: by Jeremy (last edited Feb 07, 2012 09:15AM) (new)

Jeremy (lazerwraith) | 48 comments Krishna wrote: "Have you read October Daye,Sandman Slim,Connor Gray or Downside ghosts series? most of them are great reads and have minimal vampire/werewolf action. "

October Daye is a terrible detective and continually gets beat up. Sandman Slim is miserably depressing. Downside Ghosts has romance.

I think you misunderstand Affably. She wanted "non-romance vampire/werewolf UF". So she did want vampires and werewolfs, but not as much romance. And that is how I feel as well... there is too much romance in UF and it is incredibly annoying.


message 161: by Quick ben (last edited Feb 07, 2012 09:37AM) (new)

Quick ben (senseiping) | 22 comments LaserWraith wrote: "Krishna wrote: "Have you read October Daye,Sandman Slim,Connor Gray or Downside ghosts series? most of them are great reads and have minimal vampire/werewolf action. "

October Daye is a terrible d..."


yeah I was thinking that she had vampire/werewolf fatigue too.Sandman and October Daye improve considerably later in the series Aloha from hell was very good.


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Beth (feistydonute) | 8 comments I've been reading the Cal Leandros series by Rob Thurman lately and it's pretty good. I like Mercy Thompson but there's too much relationship angst.


Alana ~ The Book Pimp (loonyalana) | 52 comments Affably wrote: "WHY is it so hard to find non-romance vampire/werewolf UF/Fantasy books these days? Any suggestions on what I could read that fits this description?"

Well, we've already discussed Iron Druid- but it fits perfectly with this... October Daye doesn't have much romance, at least not until the latest books....


Alana ~ The Book Pimp (loonyalana) | 52 comments Kate Daniels has little romance until the later books, too... it's more about sexual tension that romance... and it has vamps, shifters and such.


message 165: by Darkcain11, Merlin (new)

Darkcain11 | 324 comments Mod
LaserWraith wrote: "Krishna wrote: "Have you read October Daye,Sandman Slim,Connor Gray or Downside ghosts series? most of them are great reads and have minimal vampire/werewolf action. "

October Daye is a terrible d..."


I agree though it isn't limited to UF novels theres too much crappy romances inn movies a such.

Like the movie Thor there was no reason whatsoever to have natile Portman in that movie.


message 166: by Quick ben (last edited Feb 07, 2012 10:56AM) (new)

Quick ben (senseiping) | 22 comments Rimsha wrote: "Affably wrote: "WHY is it so hard to find non-romance vampire/werewolf UF/Fantasy books these days? Any suggestions on what I could read that fits this description?"



if you are looking for non romantic Vamp/were series ,the ones I liked were Laura Caxton series 13 Bullets and Strain Trilogy by Guillermo Del Toro.They might be classified as horror though.


message 167: by Mike (the Paladin), White Council (new)

Mike (the Paladin) (thepaladin) | 358 comments Mod
I was going to suggest the Rob Thurman books, they're not bad. I've read the first Anton Strout book and it's pretty good.

Another choice that is a bit different (as the paranormal aspects come on a bit slowly) are the Repairman Jack books.

There's Simon R. Green, fair reads. I prefer the Secret History books to the Nightside, but some feel the other way.


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Jeremy (lazerwraith) | 48 comments Mike (the Paladin) wrote: "I was going to suggest the Rob Thurman books, they're not bad. I've read the first Anton Strout book and it's pretty good.

Another choice that is a bit different (as the paranormal aspects come on..."


I'll second your Repairman Jack recommendation, though I think the novels would have been better without any supernatural aspect. :P Simon R. Green's Nightside and Secret Histories, as I've said many times before, is awesome. :D

Krishna wrote: "yeah I was thinking that she had vampire/werewolf fatigue too.Sandman and October Daye improve considerably later in the series Aloha from hell was very good. "

You are weird, because the first October Daye book wasn't bad, but each successive novel featured the same theme - October ignorantly running around trying to figure out what is up, while getting hurt. *shrug*


message 169: by Mike (the Paladin), White Council (new)

Mike (the Paladin) (thepaladin) | 358 comments Mod
I wasn't a big fan of October Day(e) in some ways. I did like the idea behind the books and the way they were set up. I gave the first one 4 stars (http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/...). By the second I was burning out and dropped it to 3 stars as, well my review: http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/....

I didn't go on to the third.


message 170: by Quick ben (new)

Quick ben (senseiping) | 22 comments You are weird, because the first October Daye book wasn't bad, but each successive novel featured the same theme - October ignorantly running around trying to figure out what is up, while getting hurt. *shrug*

Wierd?? To each his own. the second was a bit repetitive but she became much better after her mother (view spoiler)


message 171: by Cjpines (new)

Cjpines | 90 comments Most fantasy fans over the age of 25 fall into the weird category. Embrace your weirdness (behind closed doors please).


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Jeremy (lazerwraith) | 48 comments Krishna wrote: "Wierd?? To each his own. the second was a bit repetitive but she became much better after her mother"

Yeah, weird = not like me. Anyway, when did her mother do this? (Which book?)


message 173: by Affably (last edited Feb 08, 2012 01:02PM) (new)

Affably (Affably-Sociopathic) | 69 comments I might have given up too soon on October cuz she kept getting beat up but i might give it another try.

And when I was talking about vampires I kinda meant books that feature them as the main characters like in Staked(Void City). The most annoying thing is that when i check the recommendations for vampire/werewolf books I cant seem to find any decent non-romance ones.


message 174: by Mike (the Paladin), White Council (new)

Mike (the Paladin) (thepaladin) | 358 comments Mod
You could try They Thirst They Thirst by Robert R. McCammon . It's a vampires are nasty, evil plague book. My kind of vamps, not a romantic or sparkly bone in their maggot ridden bodies!


message 175: by Mike (the Paladin), White Council (new)

Mike (the Paladin) (thepaladin) | 358 comments Mod
Oh, there's also the Noble Dead series by Barb and J.C. Hendee. The first one is Dhampir (Noble Dead, Series 1, #1) by Barb Hendee Dhampir.


Alana ~ The Book Pimp (loonyalana) | 52 comments LaserWraith wrote: "Krishna wrote: "Wierd?? To each his own. the second was a bit repetitive but she became much better after her mother"

Yeah, weird = not like me. Anyway, when did her mother do this? (Which book?)"


I think it was either artificial night or book 4... blanking on the name right now


Alana ~ The Book Pimp (loonyalana) | 52 comments Late Eclipses (October Daye #4) by Seanan McGuire

This is it-


message 178: by Shanna (new)

Shanna (rubberparrot) | 16 comments The Amulet of Samarkand (Bartimaeus, #1) by Jonathan Stroud I know it's YA but there is a snarky feel to it.


message 179: by Affably (last edited Feb 09, 2012 07:29AM) (new)

Affably (Affably-Sociopathic) | 69 comments I reread book one of Daye and I have to say that up until the ending it was 4 star material but when (view spoiler)

I'm really hoping she's either gonna get a gun or suddenly become a lot powerful in the next book or two but if that doesn't happen it might go back on hiatus on my personal list.

(view spoiler)


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Affably (Affably-Sociopathic) | 69 comments Shanna wrote: "The Amulet of Samarkand (Bartimaeus, #1) by Jonathan StroudI know it's YA but there is a snarky feel to it."

I've read that trilogy and I have to say you have good taste and I second your recommendation to anyone on this thread.


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Cjpines | 90 comments Affably wrote: "Shanna wrote: "The Amulet of Samarkand (Bartimaeus, #1) by Jonathan StroudI know it's YA but there is a snarky feel to it."

I've read that trilogy and I have to say you have good taste and I second your recommend..."


Never even remember hearing of it but with 2 endorsments I'm gona take a look when I'm done with Aloha from Hell.


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Darkcain11 | 324 comments Mod
Cjpines wrote: "Affably wrote: "Shanna wrote: "The Amulet of Samarkand (Bartimaeus, #1) by Jonathan StroudI know it's YA but there is a snarky feel to it."

I've read that trilogy and I have to say you have good taste and I secon..."


Is aloha from hell any better than the first one?


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Shanna (rubberparrot) | 16 comments Affably wrote: "Shanna wrote: "The Amulet of Samarkand (Bartimaeus, #1) by Jonathan StroudI know it's YA but there is a snarky feel to it."

I've read that trilogy and I have to say you have good taste and I second your recommend..."


thanks for the seconding, I know it YA but I don't remember it being condescending in any way. And the asides had me laughing out loud.


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Cjpines | 90 comments Darkcain11 wrote: "Cjpines wrote: "Affably wrote: "Shanna wrote: "The Amulet of Samarkand (Bartimaeus, #1) by Jonathan StroudI know it's YA but there is a snarky feel to it."

I've read that trilogy and I have to say you have good t..."



I guess that depends on what displease you about the first.

The books aren't 'great' but 'Sand Man Slim' did evolve and manage to carry a much more consistent character and skill set. I fairly enjoyed the second book right up till the end...to try explaining without a spoiler...they use a flimsy reasoning to generally explain how the hero finds a solution to a 'puzzle' with so little information that Colombo, Sherlock and Dresden working together never would have been able to puzzle out. The saddest part of it all is they could have had all the events be the same but had other smarter, older, more informed characters work together to puzzle out the solution and not made the character inconsistent.

I'm only 30 pages into Aloha from Hell so I can't say much on it yet.


message 185: by Mike (the Paladin), White Council (new)

Mike (the Paladin) (thepaladin) | 358 comments Mod
Didn't care for Sandman Slim. Went 2 books and stopped. To each their own.


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Tasula | 20 comments Affably wrote: "I might have given up too soon on October cuz she kept getting beat up but i might give it another try.

And when I was talking about vampires I kinda meant books that feature them as the main char..."


Any of the following fit the bill of non-romance vamp/were books- then it's up to your personal taste which you find enjoyable (author & lst in series if there is a series)

Acevedo, Mario Nymphos of Rocky Flats
Armintrout, Jennifer The Turning: Book1:Blood Ties Series
Baker, Nancy The Night Inside aka Kiss of the Vampire
Bowen, Gary Diary of a Vampire
Collins Nancy A Sunglasses After Dark
Farren, Mick the Time of Feasting
Garton, Ray Live Girls
Gottlieb, Sherry Love Bite
Hendee Barb Blood Memories
Huff Tanya Blood Price
Huston, Charlie Already Dead
Lewis, J F Staked
Martin George RR Fevre Dream,
Newman, Kim Anno-Dracula
Rardin, Jennifer Once Bitten, Twice Shy
Simmons, William Mark One Foot in the Grave
Taylor, Karen E The Vampire Vivienne
Cacek Patricia Canyons


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Affably (Affably-Sociopathic) | 69 comments Acevedo, Lewis and Simmons were good.


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Affably (Affably-Sociopathic) | 69 comments @Darkcain11&the other mods.

Had an idea about a new thread were we post our list of top ten UF/Fantasy books.


message 189: by Tasula (new)

Tasula | 20 comments Fine, although there are probably listopia's that accomplish the same thing- although not with our exalted group's opinion.

Sometimes I think it's better to have a thread of "recommended authors you may NOT have tried".

IMO most of us would agree on Butcher, Briggs, etc. but no one learns anything new from that.


message 190: by Affably (new)

Affably (Affably-Sociopathic) | 69 comments Tasula wrote: "Fine, although there are probably listopia's that accomplish the same thing- although not with our exalted group's opinion.

Sometimes I think it's better to have a thread of "recommended authors y..."


Yeah but i was kind of thinking that we could compare the top tens of each other to learn about new good books and hopefully discover some that are as good as dresden and such.


message 191: by Affably (last edited Feb 14, 2012 12:03AM) (new)

Affably (Affably-Sociopathic) | 69 comments Tasula wrote: "Fine, although there are probably listopia's that accomplish the same thing- although not with our exalted group's opinion.

Sometimes I think it's better to have a thread of "recommended authors y..."


hmmm I fx. haven't heard of Briggs.

Edit: Are you talking about Patricia Briggs and her Mercy Thompson series?


message 192: by Tasula (new)

Tasula | 20 comments Yes, I was talking about P Briggs' Mercy Thompson series. Very well known.

And if we posted our top 10 books (rather than authors), would we be barred from repeating authors? I think most of us would be familiar with most of the top 10 either way. Maybe not newbies.


message 193: by Affably (new)

Affably (Affably-Sociopathic) | 69 comments Yeah well I was aware of the Mercy Thompson before I googled Briggs, I just forgot the name of the author.


message 194: by Affably (last edited Feb 16, 2012 01:22PM) (new)

Affably (Affably-Sociopathic) | 69 comments A question for those that have read the Connor Gray series by Mark Del Franco.

Does Connor get his powers back later in the series?

Edit: I'm asking because I want to know whether I should devote time into reading this book series.


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Jeremy (lazerwraith) | 48 comments Affably wrote: "A question for those that have read the Connor Gray series by Mark Del Franco.

Does Connor get his powers back later in the series?

Edit: I'm asking because I want to know whether I should devote..."



I'd like to know as well...dislike stories featuring a weak character among powerful friends and enemies.


message 196: by Affably (new)

Affably (Affably-Sociopathic) | 69 comments been taking a peek at the first book of Grey and I have to say that dont really see anything special about it.


message 197: by Kelly (Maybedog) (new)

Kelly (Maybedog) (maybedog) Benedict Jacka's Fated. The cover has a quote by Jim Butcher that says, "Harry Dresden would like Alexa Ferus tremendousl--and be a little nervous around him. I just added Benedict Jacka to my must-read list."

I'm only half way in but it's very Harry Dresden. I've seen it compared to the Dresden Files multiple places. There's a second one out next month.


message 198: by Bungluna (new)

Bungluna | 22 comments @Kelly-I just finished this one and loved it. Verus' world is enough different from Harry's to make things interesting. I'm looking forward to the next one.


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JPerceval | 26 comments Hello, first post here! Huge Dresden fan, and I spent a lot of my time trying to find "like Dresden" books. Saw my pal Bungluna's post here in my feed, and thought I'd join in.

I very enthusiastically endore Rob Thurman's Cal Leandros series, especially for those of you who are looking for UF without an emphasis on romance. Thurman also has another series I quite enjoy, the Chimera novels, so far Chimera and Basilisk, also about brothers, but more evocative of a Dark Angel-type, genetically engineered world, with Russian mafia thrown in.

I also read and loved Fated. Very similar to Dresden, but different too.

Just read my first Green and enjoyed it very much. Also a huge fan of Tanya Huff, particularly Summon the Keeper. Karen Chance, Kim Harrison, Ilona Andrews, P.N. Elrod, Patricia Briggs, Kelly Gay...all authors whose series I follow religiously.

In my TBR but not tried yet so I can't personally recommend are: Mark del Franco, Anton Strout, and Thomas Sniegoski.

Nothing comes close to Dresden, though. ;-)


message 200: by Mike (the Paladin), White Council (new)

Mike (the Paladin) (thepaladin) | 358 comments Mod
Haven't run across Jacka before Kelly, thanks. I'll try to run a copy of Fated down.


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