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Novel series like the Dresden Files?
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he interacts with Loki, and Jesus, and Mary, and Morrigan...
he "found" Jesus... it's funny, really it is

Though I would dislike being a druid in real life, because to access his power he needs to be in contact with nature (grass mostly). And since he lives in a city or urban area...large amounts are sometimes limited. I wonder why he never seems to think about the times when he could be in contact with earth almost all the time. :)

First person narration, magic, can be funny (not as funny as Dresden, etc. There are six or seven of them so far and still being written.

They sound interesting, but I had checked out the series before and apparently a few reviewers noted that the main character was almost never told anything (and kept in the dark).
BTW, could you tell me what magical things she can do? :)
I've looked at them but couldn't get enthused. I looked over a few reviews here and came away with a "lukewarm" feel. I'll see if any more reviews show up though.

My worries about October Daye's fighting abilities were kind of legit. First, she basically has no magical fighting skills, which makes me sad. She also has no way of taking down an enemy besides jumping at him. Lame. The one knife she got at the end was borrowed from a friend.
You might think she would learn after the murder of her "worst friend/best enemy", but no, she didn't pick up any weapons. She didn't learn to shoot and maintain a pistol (or one with a silencer). She didn't use the gun she picked up from an attacker (or get more iron bullets). Like typical female UF, she talks about how "pissed off" she is getting and how she isn't going to fool around, then jumps on a friend (not being able to do much besides stick her elbow in his solar plexus and even then hurting herself), then flees off a cliff from the real bad guy.
This is my main gripe with female UF. Often they don't know how to kill the bad guys, while Dresden does. :P
Other than that, the book was fine (better than I expected). I'll probably give 3 stars.

I know. (view spoiler)
That is a main reason I don't read much UF and stick with military fiction and sci-fi: the characters often are not professional about what they have to do. They need to prepare themselves before confronting the bad guy.
However, I'll probably still read the books...I need a break from Clancy for a while. ;)

My worries about October Daye's fighting abilities were kind of legit. First, she basically has no magica..."
It gets better as the series progresses.there are many female UF where they are like their male counterparts like Kate Daniels and Jane Yellowrock etc.military scifi gets really repetitive for me.there is always some deus ex machina,it becomes boring fast.i like space opera better.
Well, Krishna, to each...but there isn't "always" a deus ex machina answer, though I'm sure this happens sometimes. It happens in most genres from time to time. I plan to follow up the first book, not sure when.
LaserWraith, I know. (view spoiler)
I assume you've read Dresden, have you tried Green's Secret History books? They're not bad either.
I'm planning (and have been for some time) to get to
Magic Bites. I have it on my shelf.
LaserWraith, I know. (view spoiler)
I assume you've read Dresden, have you tried Green's Secret History books? They're not bad either.
I'm planning (and have been for some time) to get to
Magic Bites. I have it on my shelf.

I like it when the protagonist is out of their depth and has to get out by the skin of their teeth.Green's books are great, not much of a plot but full of extremely weird characters. I don't know how he dreams them up on such a regular basis.

First, I see some of the reviews are worse for the next few October Daye books. According to multiple detailed reviews the author is horrible at writing mysteries (which doesn't surprise me), but that is what we get for the next book. There is also lots of repetition, including the main character continually getting hurt (as in the first book).
:-/
Second...I'm not sure what military books you read, but I don't come across deus ex machina scenes much. Often what happens is that a plan set in motion before starts yielding results, occasionally blind luck helps either side, or some good detective work. It isn't always implausible.
Mike (the Paladin) wrote: "I assume you've read Dresden, have you tried Green's Secret History books? They're not bad either. "
Oh yes, I've read most of Green's fantasy (didn't like the scifi series, Deathstalker, though). The Secret History series and the Nightside one are favorites. One minor problem is the confusing magic system...basically anything goes. All these strange weapons and powers, things that can "turn off" the Drood's armor... But I still like those books.
Krishna wrote: "I like it when the protagonist is out of their depth and has to get out by the skin of their teeth.Green's books are great, not much of a plot but full of extremely weird characters. I don't know how he dreams them up on such a regular basis. "
I actually prefer books where the main character doesn't get too out of his depth, since when he solves the problem it can feel too fake. If October was a little more smart about fighting and defending herself, she wouldn't have been out of her depth.
And I agree about Green's books...the characters are usually entertaining.
I agree, I have to rate Green's books as "something to read between Dresden". You're also right about the magic systems. Of the two series (Nightside and Secret Histories) I like the Secret Histories best, but they are a little hazy around the edges when it comes to the outlines of how things happen.
I have some Deathstalker books on my shelves, but haven't gotten to them yet. LOL
I have some Deathstalker books on my shelves, but haven't gotten to them yet. LOL

I didn't dislike it. I will probably get to another later. It's more a case of didn't like or dislike all that much...
Mike (the Paladin) wrote: "I agree, I have to rate Green's books as "something to read between Dresden". You're also right about the magic systems. Of the two series (Nightside and Secret Histories) I like the Secret Histori..."
I agree with you i'm through serpents tooth and the series is nowhere near dresden's level but better than most Urban Fantasy novels.
I agree with you i'm through serpents tooth and the series is nowhere near dresden's level but better than most Urban Fantasy novels.

Ah, they are fine for reading in between my favorite series. I'm afraid I'm just a little too particular in choosing my books...I got spoiled too early on the good stuff. :P
Probably has something to do with my fascination of protagonists needing the ability to defend themselves. :)

Edit - found the link! The book is still available for free from the author himself! http://www.sff.net/people/Kevin.A.Mur...

Im also loking for a good book at the moment. Something with a funny, sarcastic, witty and powerful protagonist(like Dresden or Atticus) that does not hesitate to kill his foes.

Im also loking for a goo..."
sandman is great, he is near invincible and extremely sarcastic. you can also try Cal Leandros by Rob Thurman although I felt he was a bit whiny in the first novel.

Im also loking for a good book at the moment. Something with a funny, sarcastic, witty and powerful protagonist(like Dresden or Atticus) that does not hesitate to kill his foes. "
I've read all of those but the Sword of Truth series...I'll probably need to go over that sometime.
But, I might recommend a book for you. I loved The Blacksmith's Son. It is about a boy, adopted by a blacksmith when his parents were killed, who found he had certain powers. He confided in his friend, a nobleman's son, and the noble decided the main character should go to the castle and its library to learn more about magic.
I liked this book because the main character actively researched and learned more about magic himself. So many coming of age books feature a protagonist with new powers...and he doesn't push himself or learn quickly. But not in this book.
However, for the negatives: This is a self-published author. The only editors are himself, his wife, and some friends. Basically, there are quite a few problems, including some scenes where modern English is mixed with a medieval time frame. But I still loved the books anyway, and the next one was a bit better with the editing. And for the unreleased third book, apparently he is getting help from a more professional editor.
Because of this, the price for the Blacksmith's Son is about $1 for the Kindle version, and maybe a bit more for other ebook versions (more, of course, for the paperback).

i LOOOOVEE Secret Histories i'd recommend them too

Yeah he was great and i also like Cal, sure he is a little whiny about his Auphe heritage (view spoiler)

Im also lok..." Well I've just finished reading those books and I have to say that they are insanely good. Im looking forward to the next release. The protagonist is an extremely talented and inventive mage that actually actively researches what he does. I would appreciate if you have anymore gems to share
Eysi if your looking for a supreme badass character try anniliase from http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13... shes like a skinny terminator.

Yeah she is a badass that eats raw meat
I bring somber news. Today I heard Twenty Places series was dropped by the publisher due to Poor sales can anyone add to this?
I don't know, but I do know that I can't get hold of it. If this is the case it's as much that the publisher didn't get behind it and support it as anything else. I'll have to order it I suppose as that's the only way I can get it.

He released Twenty Places a prequel on kindle,i hope there will be more .

I finished reading Hounded the other day and loved it. I'm waiting to get next book which is Hexed in about a week.

Wait what??? How is that possible?? ITS AWESOME THEY CANT DROP IT.
Edit: Yeah lets all hope.

Wait what??? How is that possible?? ITS AWESOME T..."
OMG! i loooove twenty palaces novels how can they drop them i'm on the third book now and i wan't more!
Rimsha wrote: "Eyzi wrote: "Darkcain11 wrote: "I bring somber news. Today I heard Twenty Places series was dropped by the publisher due to Poor sales can anyone add to this?"
Wait what??? How is that possible?? ..."
That is horrible news. I love this series! I hope the author can find another publisher or even self publish.
Wait what??? How is that possible?? ..."
That is horrible news. I love this series! I hope the author can find another publisher or even self publish.
I'd suggest someone write the publisher. I haven't heard. I'd also suggest a hard copy as well as an Email.

Have you read The Alloy of Law? It's placed in the Mistborn world with the magic like talents but placed in a time period when this world roughly correspond to late 19th early 20th century. So you get a sort of urban fantasy. The magic-like talents along with firearms, trains etc.

eah I intend to check it out but I am going to finish Hero of the Ages first.
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