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message 1: by Jeremy (new)

Jeremy Needle (jeremyneedle) I hate junior admins who change firewall w/o notifying ANYONE

I hate Exchange

I hate NIS

I hate IPv6: no Bob, it DOESN'T map flawlessly to IPv4

I hate Cisco Unity

I hate Blackberry users

In fact, I hate ALL users. P2P software on their laptops and they wonder WHY their laptop runs like a 90 year old hooker. And yes, I know, you really need all 20GB of your email from 1996. Yes, the world will absolutely END if you god for fucking bid clean out your inbox.

I hate Dell technical support. Yes Dan, I ran the diagnostics, updated the firmware, and YES I KNOW HOW TO FUCKING TELL WHEN A HD IS BROKEN.

I hate McAfee antivirus. Really, go ahead and try to uninstall the ePO agent when you switch vendors.

I hate Verizon.

I hate using...TRYING to use the internet in China.

I hate the airport.

I hate IBM's bullshit licensing.

I hate crimping fiber.

I hate KVM over IP. Unusably slow.

I hate RAID's running in degraded mode.

I hate software salesman.

I hate SOX auditors.






The Crimson Fucker (tcf123) | -6 comments MacAfee is not an antivirus… if you find it on a computer it must be treated as a malware and in some cases will force you to format =P

Black berry users should go to user’s hell and burn in the same level as the Mac users and be torture till they repent of thinking they have “absolute control” over their computers without being there…

After a few calls to any support center they should figure out that you know what the hell you doing and give you a number that explain that you do FUCKING know what the hell is going on and send you what you ask for or to the department that you ask for… telling 3 different Hindi dudes yes, the 3rd light is blinking is not fun at all…

I fucking love Verizon… they always treated me like a king back in the good old days. I don’t know how is like now.

Any kind of software/hardware seller is a leach when you know the industry… they will try to convince you that they know what you want/need every single time… even when you know that they bullshiting about their software/hardware… and even when you tell them that you know that they bullshiting you… they will still try to prove you wrong…

I like you Jenny I think you funny =)



message 3: by Amanda (new)

Amanda (randymandy) Alfonso, 2 things:

1. I just bought a blackberry last week, you asshole.
2. You think Jeremy's a girl, don't you? hahahahaha


The Crimson Fucker (tcf123) | -6 comments Jeremy is a dudes name right?>??? like that Pear Jam song right????


The Crimson Fucker (tcf123) | -6 comments
P.S. so did my cousin and I hate it… I hate it!!! When I plug it into my laptop my laptop gave me the finger!



message 6: by Amanda (new)

Amanda (randymandy) Yep. But Jenny is a girl's name.
Never mind. I was just being a smartass! (as usual)


message 7: by Amanda (new)

Amanda (randymandy) Why hate? Why?
They got the best reviews of any "smartphone" type of device out there.


message 8: by Lori (new)

Lori Alfonso, you asshole, I have and have never had anything else BUT a Mac. If you had a Mac you would not NEED to call tech support. So fuck you!!!!


The Crimson Fucker (tcf123) | -6 comments Lori, i know a Mac user who had a problem with his Mac and you know what they told him when he called tech support and explained what was wrong with it??? That that never happens!!!!! Wtf!

Amanda is not the Berry that we hate is the users that think is the bomb



The Crimson Fucker (tcf123) | -6 comments P.S. when it comes to Macs is the users and the software that I hate!!!


message 11: by Lori (new)

Lori FINE! WHATEVER! I am striking you off my Friend's list!!! Forevuh! Take that you fool!









harhar. Yes us Mac users tend to be smug about our SUPERIOR product. Actually my s-i-l used to gripe about hers, and I figured since she's such a pill that it was her fault. She's the only one I know personally who has had a problem. I'm sure others have. Now that they used the Pentium, Mac is FINALLY compatible with most programs too.

*looks around worriedly, hastens to knock wood in furious manner*








The Crimson Fucker (tcf123) | -6 comments Lori, tell me 1 thing that Mac does that pc haven’t being doing for years(at a more reasonable price)??? What? Can’t think of any??? Ok tell me one thing that Mac does better than pc? Again? Can’t think of any??? That’s sad… funny what were you saying about “superior” product??


message 13: by Lori (new)

Lori Haha I love getting into this.

One word. Graphics. The pros use Macs.

I have to admit I don't use a computer for very technical things, but I can honestly say that I've owned a Mac since '91 and have never had to call technical support. Whereas my hubby uses a PC (he has to - he does a ton of work with Microsoft and it 's easier to do his invoicing thru their system on a PC) - he is constantly screaming and moaning about the problems he has.

Just sayin. It's no big deal to me, I just love the arguments the die-hards have, so I enjoy teasing a diehard when I see one. *naughty laughter ensues*


message 14: by The Crimson Fucker (last edited Jul 23, 2008 01:55AM) (new)

The Crimson Fucker (tcf123) | -6 comments LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL THE PROS USE MAC…. Guahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hhahhhhahahahahahahahahhahahaahhhahahahahaahahahhahaahhahahahahahahhahahahahahaha
That’s all I have to say to that do some research darling =P

I like you Lori, but I hate Mac users! They the most horrible kind of power users



message 15: by Lori (new)

Lori HAHA I am laughing from your laughter!

But it's true. All the graphic artists I know use Mac. Even the artists at Microsoft use Mac!

Anyways, my good friend, why do you hate Mac users - what makes us so horrible?


message 16: by The Crimson Fucker (last edited Jul 23, 2008 08:19AM) (new)

The Crimson Fucker (tcf123) | -6 comments Ok first take a look at this one…: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAWDYa...
And then check out this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLhoop...


I told you there is only one cool Mac user… (the dude that I once ask why don’t you ask like a Mac user and he told me: I just don’t like telling people what to do) you on the other hand are Mac user I told you I think you cool and you might adopt me one day and take me to the theater and buy expensive video games (standard little brother treatment) but look how you talk about the OS… is just an OS is not solution to all of the earth problems… and it sux! It sux I say!



Reads with Scotch Mac’s are the cat’s meow Alfonso. It goes far beyond just graphics. I use both interchangeably because of work. This is coming to an end because Mac’s now run vista better then Microsoft OS’s can. For the record, I bought a desktop MAC for my wife in 99 and it has never frozen crashed or closed a program. No blue screen of death, no virus protection needed, no Mcafee, The pre loaded software is more then capable in protecting the system. The updates are free. So yes, you pay more right out of the gate, but you get what you pay for. Have fun talking to Dell tech support :p


The Crimson Fucker (tcf123) | -6 comments Dude, Dell is the devil… talked to them twice one trying to fix a friends computer… (they couldn't help me I had to figure it out myself) and the second time well same problem =P I use HP, dude I’m not saying that Windows is the shit… it sux it has a lot of problems… but I can play whatever I want and do whatever I want… is like saying is more safe to stay home than go out and have fun and doing dangerous shit…. windows users that switch to Mac are usually morons who don’t know how to fix their own shit… I told you even if Mac was great… and perfect and did everything from hardcore gaming to right click I still won’t used cuz just the idea of acting like one of them makes me want to vomit.


Reads with Scotch But the new Mac OS runs Microsoft games? Better then PC to boot. Your running out of arguments Alfonso. Join the darkside, feel the power flow through you.


The Crimson Fucker (tcf123) | -6 comments After years of being behind of the game… join the rest of the word… we been having fun since the beginning


The Crimson Fucker (tcf123) | -6 comments Dude I emulated mac recently… I was irritated beyond words….


The Crimson Fucker (tcf123) | -6 comments And for the last time my problem is not with the OS (even tho it sux) is the users… Mac users are to the Computer World what Vegans are to the Culinary world….


Reads with Scotch Well you know, you wouldn't have to worry about "fixing" anything if you had a Mac, it would work the first time, every time. No stupid Vista security warnings, no stupid vista program crashes, no stupid vista Are you sure you want to open this program... Eh, I double clicked on it didn't I... The purpose of tools is to accomplish commands for the user, not debate the commands, PC's suck scab laden donkey dick. Deal with it. Just saying, just throwing it out there.


The Crimson Fucker (tcf123) | -6 comments You see you doing your Mac thing…. I just told you that the debate is not the OS… is the user… and you keep telling me to get a Mac

how many shoes did you buy this year?


message 25: by Tracy (last edited Jul 23, 2008 09:13AM) (new)

Tracy hey alfonso, i'm with lori here. and YES, THE PROS USE MACS. i'm a professional graphic designer; i haven't used a PC since i moved out of my dad's house and i've never looked back. not to sound like a fangirl or anything (they're having their share of problems now that they're coming into their own. for example, see the current 3G iphone fiasco). but i love it. it does everything i need. the only reason anyone ever has to call tech support on a mac is:

a) they're running obsolete hardware or software. unlike microsoft, apple will force you to upgrade and keep up with everything, or your shit will stop working. it's kind of sucky, but when you look at all the problems vista has caused (and also, the adobe suite, which hasn't ever been fully rewritten even though it should have been 3 years ago when CS came out), then you understand why.

b) the user is an idiot and does something stupid. hard to do, but certainly happens.

c) it's a lemon. it happens. but that's what apple care is for. or, if it's a 1st gen device of some sort, it'll probably be corrected shortly (again, see the iphone disaster). and even if it does take awhile (like the finder problems that carried over into osX), there's usually workarounds that work decently well.


although i am with you on some of the mac users out there; they can get pretty obnoxious. but they're no worse than all the microsoft/linux fanboy, so i guess it just goes with the territory. but please, do not compare me to a vegan. that's just not cool.


message 26: by The Crimson Fucker (last edited Jul 23, 2008 09:17AM) (new)

The Crimson Fucker (tcf123) | -6 comments I could say how much I used to love playing around with my PC guts (I use latop now) I could debate a lot of shit on what they use to build Mac Os… there is a lot of shit that can be said on both sides… and I don’t care… honestly…. IS THE FUCKING MAC USERS THEM STUPID SNOB MOTHER FUCKERS THAT DRIVE INSANE!!! That’s all I’m saying here but you see how they get mad aggressive and try to force you into mac??? Dude let it be… some people think is hot to have hot wax thrown at your testicles… I let them be… if you want to use mac go ahead… if it fix all your problems great for you… but don’t fucking tell me what to do!


message 27: by Tracy (new)

Tracy hey, no mac evangelizing here. i'm just clearing up misconceptions. if you hate them, you hate them.

:)


The Crimson Fucker (tcf123) | -6 comments tracy, I just wrote some shit and deleted it… I refused to keep arguing something like this… there is always more than one truth to any preposition…. Therefore this discussion is pointless… I hate Mac users and I don’t like Mac Os (if you pronounce that together it sounds like macos which means frogs in some parts of my country and I hate frogs (is just a freaking joke Macos… dot go crazy thinking that I’m using that as a point gosh!)) but what I want to know… is there a possible way to make a Mac user shut up?? I mean besides putting his Big Moca Latte Crema voala Cha lala puj ($10 at star bucks) and his organic muffing (like 50 bucks on that weird organic store in Soho… but it makes your feces more biodegradable) on his throat?

and thank you tracy for making your point without trying to force your OS preference =)


message 29: by Tracy (new)

Tracy you could always tell him to switch to linux. or bring up the new iphone.


The Crimson Fucker (tcf123) | -6 comments Guahahahahah, or show em a frozen Ipod… dude I was laughing so much that day!


message 31: by Jeremy (new)

Jeremy Needle (jeremyneedle) *blink*

Mac? Yes lets limit ourselves to a proprietary manufacturer that costs twice as much for 85% of the performance.

And children, I would HARDLY classify graphic designers as "computer pros."

Are you kidding me? Why do Mac users think they're so different. They're not. They're just like EVERY other Mac user.

Lets compare $$$ per performance shall we? For $1200 you can get an AMD quad-core w/ an Nvidia 8800, 4GB of DDR800 RAM, and a 10000RPM Raptor.

So how much would the equivalent hardware cost on the Mac side? And the record, the world is NOT just Mac and Windows.

Have any of you graphic designers looked at the open source alternatives? I.e. Gimp running on Linux?

Take a look at this bad boy

http://www.gimp.org/screenshots/

So having an OS and graphic software w/ a price tag of FREE, you can use the difference in cost to get yourself a SATA-II RAID 0 that will allow significantly faster page file swapping.




message 32: by Jeremy (new)

Jeremy Needle (jeremyneedle) My god, I can't believe my beautiful thread got dragged into yet another unending plethora of mac vs pc debates.

Can't we rant about anything else? Anything?

Navigating Cisco's website? Trying to uninstall Symantec's Security Center? The Amiga? [which unbelievably is still around]. World Of Warcraft? IBM Informix database programming? ZoneAlarm? Exchange? FiberChannel SAN's suddenly erasing LUN's because of a little "software bug" in the filer? Synch'ing Novell and Active Directory?

Right-clicking?


message 33: by Jeremy (new)

Jeremy Needle (jeremyneedle) Really? What if you're running a video-post studio where all the Mac clients connect to a 23TB NFS FiberChannel SAN to store all the finished rendered edits. And half of your users are complaining that they can't see the share?

Or how about the presence of duplicate files that are all prefixed w/ ._

i.e. video.mpg and its duplicate ._video.mpg

Or lets say you want to use the Unix shell of OSX to pass your credentials to a Kerberos realm for authentication to, say, a graphics server that holds the ad campaigns for presidential candidates [and thus requires some measure of security controls]?

Seriously Lori, operating systems are complicated shit; esp. OSX's unix core. Its a pretty complex and powerful tool that goes WAY beyond using FinalCut and Photoshop.



message 34: by Lori (new)

Lori Whoa, Jeremy, you know far more about computers than I do! I don't do anything fancy at all, I admit. And I didn't mean to drag your lovely thread into the dungheap of the old Mac vs. PC war. I love joking about it because people get so involved with it, as happened here. It's amusing to me because I really have no hate about it, there's so many other things to hate, right?

I love Mac, you love PC, let's call the whole thing off!





message 35: by Jeremy (new)

Jeremy Needle (jeremyneedle) *lol @ Lori*

I love Commodore 128 and Atari 800XL. Nothing sexier than loading your apps from a tape.

I'm an elitist asshole...guilty, but really, no OS is perfect. They all have their little headaches.

In fact...I think my favorite OS is the one running on my cellphone. You know that bad boy has never ever crashed...never needed a reboot or a driver update.


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