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I hate misinformed tripe (And I'm not fond of ignorant ruminant stomachs either)

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message 1: by Ginnielee (new)

Ginnielee (vampirekisses) Before you stock up on candy this Halloween, you
should know that candymaker Mars funds deadly
animal experiments even though not one of the
tests is required by law, there are more reliable
human studies and Hershey’s, the company’s top
competitor, has banned all tests on animals.

Mars has funded cruel experiments in which mice
were fed a candy ingredient and forced to swim
in a pool of diluted paint. The mice had to find a
hidden platform to avoid drowning, only to be
killed and dissected later.

In another experiment funded by Mars, experimenters fed rats cocoa and
then collected their blood by injecting a needle
directly into their hearts—a procedure that can
lead to internal bleeding and other deadly
complications.

Mars also supported an experiment
in which baby mice were crammed into small
Plexiglas chambers and submerged for nearly five
hours in chilled water just to see if a chocolate
ingredient affected their breathing rate.

Please don’t buy any of these Mars products
until the company drops its deadly animal tests:
• M&M’S
• SNICKERS
• SKITTLES
• MILKY WAY
• STARBURST
• THREE MUSKETEERS
• TWIX
• DOVE
• M-AZING
• COCOAVIA
• ETHEL M
• LUCAS
• MUNCH

I believe in this to much to let it be unknown. I have stopped eating those candies and I will not eat them until they do something about it. We CAN make a change and i think we should start now.

to get this known...start a conversation in all of ur goodreads groups stating this. join other groups to get this known. Do whatever u can to stop this awful killing! Make a change.

Spread the word!!!!



message 2: by Carlie (new)

Carlie do u have any proof of this?


message 3: by Dave (last edited Jul 07, 2008 05:15PM) (new)

Dave Russell I remember reading about this somewhere...Oh, where could it have been...think...


message 4: by [deleted user] (new)

I hate the total lack of creativity reflected in the fact that you posted the exact same f**king thing in at least 11 (and counting!)other groups. If your laziness in not even attempting to make your posts relevant in any way, shape or form to the forum is any indication of your commitment to "the cause", then I'm going go home tonight dip a mouse in battery acid, bash its' crispy remains with a snickers (cuz it really satisfies) bar and curse your name for being less of an activist & more of a spammer.

And then I'm going to eat every other candy you mentioned in this list.


message 5: by [deleted user] (new)

Twice.


message 6: by Rusty (new)

Rusty (rustyshackleford) | 2198 comments Have you tried the new Wild Cherry M&Ms? Good stuff.


message 7: by Charissa (new)

Charissa (dakinigrl) ::::makes a dessert in her blender out of mice, Three Musketeers, Peanut M&Ms, and the blood of small white children with trust funds::::


message 8: by Amanda (new)

Amanda (randymandy) *snicker*



message 9: by Rusty (new)

Rusty (rustyshackleford) | 2198 comments I heard those mice had it coming. They killed some dude and his girlfriend, over in Jersey. The cops said they had never seen such senseless violence.


message 10: by Carlie (new)

Carlie But Sarah, do you have any proof that the tails are the murder weapons?


message 11: by Nikki (new)

Nikki Boisture My 20-month old son gets one M&M everytime he pees on the potty, and two every time he poos on the potty.


message 12: by Dave (new)

Dave Russell Thanks, Nikki, you've cured me of my M&M addiction.


message 13: by Carlie (new)

Carlie me two


message 14: by Rusty (new)

Rusty (rustyshackleford) | 2198 comments I wish I had a deal like that, Nikki. I pee and poop on the potty be myself all the time, and nobody gives me a damn thing.


message 15: by Nikki (new)

Nikki Boisture Ask your mom Rusty....actually she may have used a trick like that to potty train you. I got the idea from my own mother, who said it was a pretty common potty training tactic!


message 16: by Emma (new)

Emma  Blue (litlover) I HATE SPAM!


Jackie "the Librarian" "Lovely Spam, wonderful Spam!"


message 18: by Carlie (new)

Carlie yup. Tastes really good fried and placed between two slices of wonderbread with a spot of mayo and a twinge of ketchup.


The Crimson Fucker (tcf123) | -6 comments I’ma be quick about this one… if you were to tell me that the company that makes snickers experiments with babies… I’ll still eat it, rats I’ll still eat, kitties I’ll still eat it, giant kitties covered with babies I’ll still eat it… as long as they don’t put meat on my chocolate I don’t care what you have to do to make it…


message 20: by Emma (last edited Jul 08, 2008 11:10AM) (new)

Emma  Blue (litlover) So emails about plastic surgery and condoms tastes good? Ahh.....I probably won't eat it now if I think about it, but Mars bars taste so damn good.... On the bright side, this is one way to start a new diet!


message 21: by Carlie (last edited Jul 08, 2008 11:11AM) (new)

Carlie no Emma....the Viagra and rich relative from Nigeria wanting to send you millions ones are the tastiests.


You have Mars bars? I haven't seen one in at least a year! Can you mail me some?


message 22: by Emma (new)

Emma  Blue (litlover) Ahh, so it has to be brand name?


Really? I see them every where! Mars bars and Twixes are my favorites. Seems like animal abuse doesn't effect you at all.


message 23: by Not Bill (new)

Not Bill I'd kill for a Mars Bar right about now...does that count?


message 24: by Carlie (new)

Carlie Animal abuse affects me a lot but this just seems implausible. SOunds so much like an urban legend. AND like a crazed attempt by the Hershey company or one of its investors to inflame the passions and their profits.


message 25: by Rusty (new)

Rusty (rustyshackleford) | 2198 comments "as long as they don’t put meat on my chocolate"

Alfonso, have you ever tried mole (I don't know how to put the accent on the "e")? That involves chocolate and meat, but it's actually pretty good.


message 26: by Emma (last edited Jul 08, 2008 11:34AM) (new)

Emma  Blue (litlover) Alfonso, have you ever tried a turtle? Well, why would you test it on animals? They can't tell you if it tastes good. And that seems true, just thinking about it makes me want a Twix....


message 27: by Tesse (new)

Tesse (hooksinmyhead) There is no guilt trip intended with the following statements. As I have stated many times before eat and drink what you please, all decisions about food should fit your individual wants and needs.

As much as I find unnecessary animal testing unpleasant what disturbs me about this post is that the poster does not address the human element in chocolate production which is far more disturbing.

Much of mainstream chocolate production is linked to slavery and abusive labor (especially of children) in the Cote d'Ivoire (the Ivory Coast).

I am not advocating a boycott ( I realize the limitations of independent consumer politics) but rather I am voicing an opinion that people need to be aware of where their products come from and what is involved in the production. I know it's a cliche but knowledge can be a powerful tool and I am all for being an informed consumer.

I guess I find the (well documented and widely acknowledged) abuse and forced labor of people more distressing than the above story.


message 28: by Emma (new)

Emma  Blue (litlover) Tesse, you made a extremely good point. That is exactly why I went veggie. But it tastes so good...


message 29: by Tracy (new)

Tracy i agree with carlie, this sounds like an urban legend.

first of all, i know chocolate is toxic (like, deadly toxic) to dogs and especially to cats (becuase they're smaller). well, mice are smaller still than cats, so it stands to reason that chocolate might be toxic to them as well. now, i have no idea why it's good for humans but bad for our pets, so maybe it's not toxic to mice at all. even so, mouse systems are so different from ours (like for one, mice have no bladder or bowel control. everything just goes right through their digestive tract and out the other side when it gets there), it doesn't seem very plausible that the effects of various ingredients could be tested on mice (pigs maybe, they're closer) and still yield human-relevant results. unless that was how we ended up with olean and all those things on the market in the first place. who knows.

anyway, i'm going to snopes now to look this up. but i'm thinking this is somewhere between the razor blade in the candy bar legend (never happened) and the PETA videos of slaughterhouse workers throwing chickens against the wall (happened, but because the guys doing it were sickos, not because that's how chickens are normally slaughtered).


message 30: by Not Bill (new)

Not Bill I've eaten turtle....soup and grilled. Yummy


message 31: by Carlie (new)

Carlie I would rather not eat anything that has a mommy and a daddy.


message 32: by Not Bill (new)

Not Bill Okay...did some quick research - here's the scoop. Mars Candy no longer tests on animals. They have not since about 1984. Prior to that, they were conducting tooth decay experiments on animals. An animal rights group called in a hoax about poisoning their candy. Mars recalled all their candy at huge financial loss. The animal rights group acknowledged the hoax. Mars never went back into animal testing.

So....case closed. No animal testing for 20+ yeasrs. We can all go back to our normal lives once again.


message 33: by Tesse (new)

Tesse (hooksinmyhead) I really wasn't that stressed out about it.


message 34: by Emma (new)

Emma  Blue (litlover) Oh thank god! I can eat Mars bars as much as I wish!


message 35: by Not Bill (new)

Not Bill Life is good.


message 36: by Emma (new)

Emma  Blue (litlover) Whahaha! I gotta get me some twixes!


message 37: by Carlie (new)

Carlie Thanks NB. I was too unconcerned to do any research on it. So I was just gonna go with my gut feeling and not buy into it but now gut feeling is reinforced with NB scoop. I'm sure we're all very appreciative of the now guilt-free chocoholism.


message 38: by Tesse (new)

Tesse (hooksinmyhead) Main Entry: tripe
Pronunciation: \ˈtrīp\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French
Date: 14th century
1 : stomach tissue especially of a ruminant (as an ox) used as food
2 : something poor, worthless, or offensive

I was going for the second meaning.


message 39: by Not Bill (new)

Not Bill mmmmmm tripe. Especially when included in pho.



message 40: by Not Bill (new)

Not Bill And speaking of chocoholism..... get this: a smoked sea salt and bacon bar my Vosges. Best. Bar. Ever.


message 41: by Carlie (new)

Carlie I love pho.
but with rare steak and flank with fat.
no thanks on the tripe.
there's just no way you can clean tripe enough to get rid of all the poo.
all those villi and microvilli are poo reservoirs.


message 42: by Not Bill (new)

Not Bill ditto on the flank with fat...and the connective tissue.

I prefer to look at those villi as flavor resevoirs.


message 43: by Charissa (new)

Charissa (dakinigrl) Nb rocks the facts again.


message 44: by Lori (new)

Lori Amazing how internet rumors go flying. Scary. Especially because most people take it as Truth and don't check the facts.


Jackie "the Librarian" Did anyone see that movie Tampopo? It's this crazy Japanese movie ostensibly about a woman trying to cook better noodles, but really it's all about food.
Tampopo on the Internet Movie Database

In one part, this gangster type talks about these boars who eat nothing but yams. Their intestines are full of yam, and so when you slaughter them, you have Yam Sausage already ready to go.


message 46: by Tesse (new)

Tesse (hooksinmyhead) I love that movie!


It makes me long for a good noodle house.


message 47: by Carlie (new)

Carlie that actually sounds delicious but once its processed, it's still poo.


Jackie "the Librarian" Superduper fresh eggs, and superpooper yam sausage.


message 49: by Tesse (new)

Tesse (hooksinmyhead) Alphonso is that kid in your avatar wearing a Power Glove?


The Crimson Fucker (tcf123) | -6 comments yes, and his name is Capitan Nerd!!!


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