Fans of British Writers discussion
Group news and business
>
Currently reading anything by a British writer?
message 551:
by
Rosemarie
(new)
Oct 15, 2016 06:13AM

reply
|
flag




If I had known, when I read it, that it was a ghost story, I would not have read. The supernatural stuff isn't my forte.
I found it ambiguous - and I prefer my reading when it is all neatly explained at the end. Just me - I also prefer happy endings (as long as they're earned). I want the author to do the work, not set up questions I don't find until I've read most of the thing. De gustibus non disputandum est.

So do I, Alicia! (view spoiler) Of course, unlike you, I'm drawn to the fiction of the supernatural. (Or, as one former co-worker at the BC library put it years ago, "Werner's into the weird!" :-) )

So do I, Alicia! [spoilers removed] Of course, unlike you, I'm drawn to the fiction of the supernatural. (Or, as one former..."
There are readers for everything - and writers to supply them. My personal tastes only dictate what I read - and especially what I write.
We are adults. I may find some trope silly, but it may be someone else's favorite kind of read. I love that the indie movement has provided work in areas that were not considered profitable by traditional publishers.
The more people read, the more I like it.
I just need to find MY tribe - because I know it's out there, and some of them have found me.

That would be a treat - would love to hear what you think.


It used to be all educated people had heard of the Book of Job (in western cultures). What the kids are being taught instead, I do not know.
We all struggle with things like conscience, and how it matters who rears the children - books help.

That's very true, Alicia!

I loved it in Dorothy Sayers' books, and many an Agatha Christie; didn't care for it so much in Tess of the D'Ubervilles. British tradition goes deep.
Not saying it was necessarily perfect - I would have hated to belong to the servant class, for example - but there WAS a right and wrong.

I loved it in Dorothy Sayers..."
I do agree about the Protestant ethic, both of work and morality. Being an English writer of a certain age I can actually trace the roots of my own work to such a position. My characters often swear like troopers and get a bit naughty in their sex lives, but there is still a huge element of right and wrong in their stories. I wouldn't change that if I could.
Also am so with you about Tess. Wanted to take The flat of my hand to Angel Clare.

A book I had to read at school - and probably the first time I consciously encountered true sexism. I recall being hugely upset by it at the time and it put me off Hardy for life.
On mature reflection I eventually realised that this was actually completely wrong of me since his entire purpose was to highlight that very hypocrisy - but teenagers can be harsh and unforgiving and I have never gone back to Hardy which is, I am sure, my loss.


The dominant literary tradition among British writers, down through the early 20th century, definitely was strongly moral and concerned with right and wrong. In Britain, this was largely shaped by Anglican Protestantism, with some Dissenter influence (John Bunyan's The Pilgrim's Progress was popular all through this period), and also characterized by a particularly British glorification of stoicism --the famous "keep a stiff upper lip" mentality--and a class-conscious code of how a "gentleman" or a "lady" was expected to behave.
That British tradition, though, was just a localized expression of the broader Judeo-Christian tradition of a fundamentally moral view of the world and the cosmos; you can find the same basic moral orientation on both sides of the Atlantic and on the Continent, and in Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox writers like Undset and Dostoevsky as well as Anglican ones. With the (for now) triumph of moral relativism, nihilism and hedonism as the established orthodoxy of the West, this tradition is no longer dominant; but it survives as a counter-cultural strand in current literature.
E.M. and Jane, I'm with you in being totally repelled by Angel's sexism --though, as you said, E.M., the author's attitude was the exact opposite of Angel's. Having read all of his major novels (not The Woodlanders, though!) and several of his short stories, I'd say that though not himself a Christian, Hardy stands in the tradition of morally-oriented fiction. But he can be a depressingly pessimistic writer; and Rosemarie (just by way of friendly warning) I'd say that Jude the Obscure is the novel where he's at his grimmest and most depressing!

I hear you, Rosemarie!

I think I'll still avoid him on that basis alone for now - quite enough of all that around not to want to engage in it in my escapism.
Which makes me think of a good topic to post....... ;)



I've accepted Hardy isn't for me.
I'm reading The Murder of Roger Ackroyd with another group. I've already read it a few times, but this time I'm enjoying watching Christie lay her clues.

Without knowing the cultural traditions, much modern stuff falls flat - you have to KNOW a traditions to flaunt it.
Dorothy Sayers was both modern and traditional. Which is why I love Harriet and Peter. They fight SO hard for what they get.

And I still haven't a clue about what all the dons and traditions mean, and who is who.
But the way the dialogue goes takes my breath away every time.




The other reason is my enormous to read list and the fact that I would rather be reading than watching. My daughter jokes and says, " Mom doesn't watch TV or movies." I do like to go to see plays and musical concerts instead- with live performers.



https://www.amazon.co.uk/UNGENTLEMANL...
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Kill-Tsar-An...
I just received The Cazalet Chronicles: Five Novels in One Collection by Elizabeth Jane Howard. So excited to begin reading. I should be good through Christmas.







https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3... by Adrian Searle.
Living in the area described during this WWII story, I'm finding it especially intriguing.

I am almost finished reading Brideshead Revisited. I recommend it to everyone who hasn't read it yet. I will definitely be reading more books by Evelyn Waugh.

I am almost finished reading Brideshead Revisited. I recommend it to everyone who hasn't read it yet. I will..."
Yes, Brideshead Revisited is charming, Rosemarie. Evelyn Waugh's books are much revered.
Adam Searle is an historian. This is the first book I've found by him and I look forward to reading more of his work.



Books mentioned in this topic
Elia and the Last Essays of Elia (other topics)Martin Chuzzlewit (other topics)
The Stones of Muncaster Cathedral (other topics)
Favorite Ghost Stories (other topics)
The Feast (other topics)
More...
Authors mentioned in this topic
Charles Lamb (other topics)Charles Dickens (other topics)
Robert Westall (other topics)
Margaret Kennedy (other topics)
William Wordsworth (other topics)
More...