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Mshj wrote: "I have quite a big problem with this in a few books. I'll tolerate a certain level but the one I'm reading at the moment is hitting the stage of throw it out of the window for historical hopelessness."I'm the same way, Kate. The latest Mary Balogh I read drove me nuts because they kept using the word 'sex', when they meant 'intercourse.' That usage of the word didn't come up until 1929! Before that, 'sex' meant 'gender'.
Bekah wrote: "Melody wrote: "Katherine wrote: "Heidi wrote: "Katherine wrote: "That's good to know D.G. It there one book you really like of hers?Starting
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You could read it as a stand alone, if I recall properly - But characters from the other books (future mostly) show up:-)
D.G. wrote: "Mshj wrote: "I have quite a big problem with this in a few books. I'll tolerate a certain level but the one I'm reading at the moment is hitting the stage of throw it out of the window for historic..."Although MB is at the better end of the scale compared to some authors! Georgette Heyer is probably the best. Diana Gabaldon is very good too.
Just finished Devil in Winter and really loved it! Had to pick up Scandal in Spring right away and am reading that now. I'm really enjoying these books!
Mshj wrote: "Although MB is at the better end of the scale compared to some authors! Georgette Heyer is probably the best. Diana Gabaldon is very good too. "That's what pissed me off, because I know she's usually better at those kinds of things...I kept thinking "if this is Mary Balogh messing up, I don't even want to think of new authors!"
currently reading
, love it!
Mshj wrote: "Melody wrote: "Also I'm no expert on this but I find the diction/words used in this out of place, inaccurate for the time setting. Anyone else read this?" I have quite a big problem with this i..."
Yeah if it were a Contemporary book then I could understand and wouldn't mind it at all but this one it just threw me off completely. Don't know if it's the author's style of writing or what. It's an erotica book but set in 1815. I don't think 'fine ass' was even used back then. lol And I've lost count how many times 'f***' is used in this. Totally inappropriate and unrealistic for the time setting if you ask me. If it weren't for the characters I would have just stopped reading it.
Bekah you can read Duchess by Night as a stand alone. I think this is the only one from the series where the other characters aren't brought in as much.
Melody wrote: "Mshj wrote: "Melody wrote: "Also I'm no expert on this but I find the diction/words used in this out of place, inaccurate for the time setting. Anyone else read this?" I have quite a big problem ..."
Well- a technical point- we say arse, not ass in England and I guess the book is maybe based in England as so many historicals are. "Arse" was used by Shakespeare so it would depend on who was saying it and what context. Definitely not used in polite mixed company in 1815 I should think. I think that f**k was also used in Shakespeare although someone else will have to check it- my inclination though is to guess that it has been in use for a long time-probably since medievil times or earlier.
Entymology is a fascinating area!
Heidi, did you read Keeping Promise Rock, first?
Mshj wrote: "I think that f**k was also used in Shakespeare although someone else will have to check it- my inclination though is to guess that it has been in use for a long time-probably since medievil times or earlier. "You got it! From the Online Etymology Dictionary:
f*ck (v.) Written form only attested from early 16c. Oxford English Dictionary 2nd edition cites 1503, in the form fukkit; earliest appearance of current spelling is 1535 -- "Bischops ... may f*ck thair fill and be vnmaryit", but presumably it is a much more ancient word than that, simply one that wasn't written in the kind of texts that have survived from Old English and Middle English.
Oh no don't get me wrong. I've read period pieces that use f*ck. That's not unusual because the term was used back then and did exist I know that. The thing that bugs me and seems off here is the fact that it's used in every other sentence from pretty much every character and in mixed company no less. It comes off redundant and just too much. It gave me pause. lol
And yeah I was expecting the term 'arse' not ass considering the story is set in England and most of the characters are English. It's just weird. LOL.
Melody wrote: "Oh no don't get me wrong. I've read period pieces that use f*ck. That's not unusual because the term was used back then and did exist I know that. The thing that bugs me and seems off here is th..."
I know what you mean- the context is all "off". I won't be adding that one to my "to-read" list! Which is lucky as that list keeps getting longer and longer.
why do you think authors do that? Do you think maybe they don't want to alienate some readers...? Readers who can't stand to read period appropriate language?
Bekah wrote: "why do you think authors do that? Do you think maybe they don't want to alienate some readers...? Readers who can't stand to read period appropriate language?"I think it's pure laziness on the author's part and lack of knowledge/research about the period. They have an idea of the story and just set it as a historical because that's popular but they don't really understand what that means. I know that historical romance is definitely not written exactly like books from the time - if you want an example, just compare any book by Jane Austen (all her books were written during the Regency period ) to any historical romance set in the Regency - but at the same time, I don't want the author to use obviously modern words to describe the action.
D.G. wrote: "Bekah wrote: "why do you think authors do that? Do you think maybe they don't want to alienate some readers...? Readers who can't stand to read period appropriate language?"I think it's pure lazi..."
Bekah wrote: "why do you think authors do that? Do you think maybe they don't want to alienate some readers...? Readers who can't stand to read period appropriate language?"
That may be it.. I personally never managed to get through Laura Kinsale's For My Lady's Heart, which was only written in period language... It just completely threw me, lol:-) But then again, I'm sure that, as in most things, there is a balance.. If a HR is more an erotic HR, I find it easier to forgive language inaccuracies during sexual congress than if it's a "normal" HR, lol:-p
Melanie wrote:Duchess By Night You could read it as a stand alone, if I recall properly - But characters from the other books (future mostly) show up:-) "ohh thats so good to read!! i really wanted to read this book as stand alone.And if i like EJ`s style enough i would continue the series.
i been wanting to read A Kiss at Midnight i wouldnt know which one to read first. suggestions?
Good question. Given this is my first book that is erotic set in a historical backdrop I guess there is an exception to the rule? lol Maybe it's the author's style. This is also my first Sylvia Day so I have no clue if this is her particular style in writing or she intentionally decided to do it for this book. I think it's more of a person's personal preference in style of writing, book genre etc. to be honest. I'm sure others wouldn't mind it as much or not even take notice. lol I mean aside from that, The Stranger I Married isn't that bad, the characters are enjoyable and I'm all for some steamy love scenes, I love smut (yes please! lol) but I guess sometimes too much isn't always a good thing? lol It reaches a point where you get tired of reading the same thing, the redundancy takes over.
I feel like I completely turned off a bunch of people from this book. So not my intention. I'm almost finished and it's been enjoyable so far. It also has a side love story that's grabbed my attention. I still think it's great and would tell people to give it a shot.
Atumn **~Luv sucks.bite me?~*** wrote: "Melanie wrote:Duchess By Night You could read it as a stand alone, if I recall properly - But characters from the other books (future mostly) show up:-) "ohh thats so good to read!..."
Oooh goodness those two are my favs of EJ's! A Kiss at Midnight was really REALLY good. It surprised me. Since the book is a stand alone I'd say read that first then read Duchess By Night in case you want to continue reading the other books in the DD series.
I personally thought that was the best of the DD series. ;)
I really loved A Kiss at Midnight, Atumn! I'd recommend that one :) The next book will be out in February.I also just read
which is a novella to AKaM.
ohh my! heck! im getting both!! LOL !! :Pmini mani mo!
UniquelyMoi *~*Dhestiny*~* wrote: "Heidi, did you read Keeping Promise Rock, first?"WHAT DHES? I read Promises Linger then went right on to Promises Keep is thats what you are asking. I had some isues with Cougar....I loved the story, shit, its hard to explain.....
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The whole thing with Nidia pissed me off at the beginning and then when it happened again at teh end, I was like WTF? Are you kidding me? He was like "Get off me Woman", and he was supposed to be this big strong guy, C'mon, I think he could kept a woman off of him! And why the hell was she back anyway? He would have had alot more 'splainin' to do in my book had I been Mara and caught him a second time with that bitch, and she would have lost more than her fucking hair! ok, so yes, now I have a fire lit under my ass about this! Sorry for ranting! Oh and there was way too much back door action for me. But the loves scenes were smoking hot!
Gonna start
later today. GAWD these covers are horrible!
Heidi, I had confused that book with another series. Sorry.
UniquelyMoi *~*Dhestiny*~* wrote: "Heidi, I had confused that book with another series. Sorry."snort . . .now that you've sent her off on a tirade!! LOL!!
(THe Rarest Blooms, 3) My thrid Madeline Hunter. I've enjoyed it. Book two of this series was much better than one so I'm hoping the trend continues with book three.
Mandy wrote: "snort . . .now that you've sent her off on a tirade!! LOL!! "I know, right? I was thinking of
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Should I give Eloisa James another try? I read Much Ado About You, and I wasn't in love. But a lot of people love her.However, I just stumbled upon Lorraine Heath and I love her. I just read her Scoundrels of St. James series. And am just starting her Daughters of Fortune series. She reminds me of LK.
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Bee wrote: "Should I give Eloisa James another try? I read Much Ado About You, and I wasn't in love. But a lot of people love her."As a rule, I don't write off an author unless I've tried at least 2 books. UNLESS they write about things that I find abhorrent.
I'd try
It was my first EJ read and I'm looking forward to more.
Just finished
. I think I'm going to read
next or finally finish
.
Heidi wrote: "Gonna start later today. GAWD these covers are horrible!"LOL!! Heidi, remember what we are told on the shallow: look for the beauty on the inside.. ;) J/K ahahah! but i must say the ugly covers are such a turn off.. they are like food. is about presentation you know?
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Megan aka *Mheghan* wrote: "currently reading , love it!"More brown covers!! im going to have lusty dreams about them!! LOL!!
I sure hope no one was offendedby my "tirade" as Mandy put it above. I do have a truckers mouth or so my hubby tells me!BEE- I have read all of EJ's books but the first two. I like her stories, but I find there is alot going on that doesn't really need to be in them. Too many sub-plots IMO, but I do like her books, how confusing am I????
CAROLYN- Did you like Virgin River? I have been wanting to get that one.
Heidi wrote: "I sure hope no one was offendedby my "tirade" as Mandy put it above. I do have a truckers mouth or so my hubby tells me!BEE- I have read all of EJ's books but the first two. I like her stories,..."
Heidi, i was not offended in the least! I just found it humorous that Dhes was all "oops, wrong book!" lol
I have read some of the VR books and they were enjoyable but not something I'm going to rush out and buy the minute a new one is released.
i just finished
and can say that each book has gotten much better. Next one is out in May and it will be on my "must read" list the minute it is out.
Whew, ok, Mandy, My mouth just gets the best of my sometimes...or maybe its my brain and fingers when I'm typing here!
Finished
now starting
As for EJ books I really recommend her Pleasure series to those who are new to her. Those were her very first books she wrote and I LOVED them. In many ways I prefer it to her DD series. The tone and premise is very different from her more recent work. There aren't ensemble casts or sub plots, it's much less cluttered and it focuses much more on the main characters. But the tone is much darker and very angsty so get your tissues out. I think this was some of her best work.
Bee wrote: "Should I give Eloisa James another try? I read Much Ado About You, and I wasn't in love. But a lot of people love her.However, I just stumbled upon Lorraine Heath and I love her. I just read her S..."
I've only read one EJ and thought it was a bit so-so- I didn't dislike it but I haven't bothered trying another yet.
Mshj wrote: "I've only read one EJ and thought it was a bit so-so- I didn't dislike it but I haven't bothered trying another yet. "I've read a few more by her but my opinion is the same. :)
so here's a stupid question and shows the depth of my addiction...is the virgin river series contemp????
Yes, it is, Bekah!
I really like the Virgin River Series, Bekah. It's a small town in the mountains of Northern California and there are a lot of revisiting characters, but each book focuses on one couple. There's some heat to them, but nothing erotic.
Heidi wrote: "I sure hope no one was offendedby my "tirade" as Mandy put it above. I do have a truckers mouth or so my hubby tells me!BEE- I have read all of EJ's books but the first two. I like her stories,..."
It was a pretty good. I'm planning on reading the series. I've heard book #2 is even better.
Well see...that's proof of my addiction problem. I heard about them, people say they're good, but I in no way knew they were contemps...that's how well I checked into them before I bought them!I thought they were historical...western like...like Dr. Quinn Medicine Woman era... type... whatever!
Nope, but they're very "small town" feeling. Great, close friendships... but not so hometown that they feel like Mayberry or anything like that.
ok, thank you!I'm reading
I'm finishing
and won't be able to read my own books because of......textbooks.
I'll try to sneak my own reading time for next month but still...textbooks are harsh.
@Bekah - How are you liking
? I have it on my TBR shelf. I really liked Jill's 'Instant' series starter,
.Right now I'm reading,
,
and
.
Okay, I put
on hold to read
which I just finished. Back to former because I have to have it finished for my Book Club on Tuesday.
What did you think of Flowers from the Storm, Laura? I loved it. Cried through most of it, but loved it.
Bekah wrote: "I thought they were historical...western like...like Dr. Quinn Medicine Woman era... type... whatever! "That is EXACTLY what I thought too!
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hmm..good to hear about the steam....but the inappropriate language can be trying. Maybe I'll bump it up on my tbr list...