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Nov 10, 2009 03:06PM
...until execution time! Good bye John Allen Muhammad. Thanks for nothing you F#$%^ing Prick!
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Couldn't happpen to a nicer guy. Two of those shootings were within ten miles of where I lived at the time. Filthy piece of shit!
I remember people ducking when they got gas. That was fucked up.
Bobbing and weaving through parking lots, starting the gas pump and laying back in the seat of your car below the door, not sitting in the windows of restaurants... Filthy piece of shit is putting it lightly. This re-hashed the whole ordeal and brought to light a bunch of stuff I never heard the first time around. Like the plan to shoot a pregnant lady in the stomach. NICE!! WTF is wrong with you to even think of such a thing. I'm glad he is gone and hope he rots in hell!
I have found the hate!!
Yes, it's done. Does Poland kill killers?
Poland's last execution was in 1988. They hung (or hanged??) a murder/rapist. Capital Punishment in Poland ended in '98
Hmmm. That's an interesting point. Perhaps if I believed in hell I would have a different opinion about the death penalty. Something to consider....
Other things to hate, like theocracy, and killing people for being gay or denying religious teachings:http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/20...
Not that it will have much effect, but there's a link to a petition you can take a minute to sign which pleads with the Iranian authorities not to execute these people.
Wait, there are atheists in Iran? But there are still no gays, right? Because that's strictly a western phenomenon.Teresa, I also hope that John Allen is biting a pillow in hell right now. One of the good things about the death penalty is that it serves as an excellent deterrent. I can gauran-f@cking-tee you it has deterred Muhammad from ever killing again. And as an added bonus, my tax dollars no longer pay for his room and board.
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Did you know that they don't even define what gay is? That it is common in the middle east for guys to fuck guy friends and then go home to their wives. No their not gay they are just delusional fagots. I was never able to figure out how that wasn't gay and when I asked I was ignored and simply told that Muslims were not gay. I think something was lost in the translation.
And GO CAPITAL PUNISHMENT! If you can not appreciate the finer qualities of CP then you can just get the hell out of here. Humans are not born inherently good. In fact most are pieces of shit, and shit floats, but from time to time it needs to be flushed.
No you will have to make me hippie. I don;t jump when hippies bark.
I'm lost already. You want me to make you a hippie? I don't know how to do that, nor would I want to. I'm surprised you want me to make you a hippie since you hate them and all. Let's start this hatefest over again and go slower this time so I can keep up. You said "if you can't appreciate the finer points of CP then get the hell out of here." I said "you get the hell out of here."
Oh I get it. You're calling me a hippie. Like:"Make me, Hippie!"
if your trying to make some "dave style" grammar thingy on me then your wasting your time. I am happily oblivious to the finer point of the English language.
No not at all. I truly didn't understand what the fuck you were trying to say. Without the comma it sounded like you were saying "make me hippie" as in turn me into a hippie. I thought you were saying something clever and I was missing it. That was clearly not the case. heh.
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAh, I seem to recall a thread a few months ago wherein Gretchen said she didn't think I was capable of pissing her off. Admittedly it took me a while, but I finally found that button.
Yes. You did, motherfucker. Congratulations to you. I'll be delivering your reward personally. (Although are you sure I didn't make some exclusionary statement about your politics?)
Servius Sextus Heiner wrote: "No their not gay they are just delusional faggots."
Seriously, Nick? Why the anger and disgust? It's not as if they can come out into the open as homosexuals, since they're not involved in the gay rights "phenomena" of the Western World.
sigh. megasigh.
Seriously, Nick? Why the anger and disgust? It's not as if they can come out into the open as homosexuals, since they're not involved in the gay rights "phenomena" of the Western World.
sigh. megasigh.
Capital Punishment has it's flaws. I can understand people having some moral discomfort with it BUT, in cut and dry cases like this...screw him! On a side note about pieces of shit:
A gym teacher in 7th grade once pulled me and a group of boys aside. We were acting stupid and about to get in trouble for it. He took us to his office, shut the door and said, "You how sometimes when you take a dump one piece floats to the top? Don't be that piece of shit!" I'll never forget it. Mostly because I think he meant that all kids are little pieces of shit.
Not sure if this helps sway anyones thoughts on Capital Punishment, but just to show what kind of animal they put to sleep last night here is a list of SOME of his victims. We will never know for sure just how many there actually were.Killed during DC Sniper spree:
James Martin 55 - Shot and killed walking in the parking lot of a grocery store.
James Buchanan 39 - Shot and killed while mowing the lawn.
Premkumar Walekar 54 - Shot and killed while cleaning his cab.
Sarah Ramos 34 - Shot and killed while sitting on a bench and reading a book.
Lori Ann-Lewis Rivera 25 - Shot and killed while vacuming her car at a gas station.
Pascal Charlot 72 - Shot and killed while waiting for the bus.
Dean Harold Meyers 53 - Shot and killed while pumping gas.
Kenneth Bridges 53 - Shot and killed while pumping gas.
Linda Franklin 47 - Shot and killed while loading her trunk at the Home Depot.
Conrad Johnson 35 - Shot and killed while standing on the steps of his bus.
Wounded during DC Sniper spree:
Caroline Seawell 43 - Shot while loading her Minivan outside Michaels Craft store.
Iran Brown 13 - Shot as he as he arrived at Benjamin Tasker Middle School.
Jeffrey Hopper 37 - Shot in the parking lot of the Ponderosa Steakhouse.
Alledged Victims prior to DC Sniper spree: Though most have very good evidence against him
Keenya Cook 21 - Someone knocks on her door, she opens it to find Muhammad who in turn shoots her in the face.
Jerry Ray Taylor 61 - Shot and killed while playing golf.
Paul La Ruffa 55 - Shot six times at close range in the parking lot of his Italian restaurant. (Miraculously he survived!)
Rupinder Oberoi 22 - Shot in the back and killed outside the Beer and Wine store where he worked.
Muhammad Rashid 32 - Shot (wounded) while locking up Three Road Liquor Store.
Million Woldemariam 41 - Shot and killed after leaving work at a Package store.
Claudine Lee Parker 52 - Shot and killed leaving work at a liquor store.
Kellie Adams 24 - Shot (wounded) leaving work at a liquor store. (at the same time as Claudine Lee Parker)
Hong Im Ballenger 45 - Shot in the head and killed while walking to her car after work at a Beauty Supply store.
That does nothing to sway my thoughts because my thoughts have nothing to do with his crimes. He's a motherfucker of the highest degree and he deserves the highest penalty available. That's the death penalty so OK fine. I just don't happen to think it should exist at all. It twists my guts up. In addition, I feel I could think of worse, more painful, more difficult, and longer lasting penalties for him. (If I believed in hell it would help that 2nd part but not the gut twisting part.)
Gretchen wrote: "I feel I could think of worse, more painful, more difficult, and longer lasting penalties for him."I'm ok with those too.
Gretchen, Capital punishment is the one issue I sway back and forth on the most! Like most controversial issues, I want to be the one that chooses when they are used.
What is it about it that makes you think it shouldn't exist at all? Is it the room for error? The idea that the government shouldn't kill people? The general ineffectiveness as a deterrent for others committing the same crime? Something else?
What do you think the form of punishment in current death penalty cases should be?
I am curious, not stirring the pot or being a snatch.
Oh God Kristina I hate this topic so much. It's one of the only things I feel 100% one-sided about and I don't think I have a very logical reason. It's all in my guts. But I guess it's the idea that the government shouldn't kill people. It just makes me feel awful to know that my government says it's OK to kill people in such a cold, pre-meditated, calculated way. It feels medieval to me. I don't want to be responsible for killing someone. I nearly started crying when I was watching the news coverage last night. I'm not crying for that stupid fucking retard asshole self-important waste of space. Fuck him. Here are some things that could happen to John Allen Muhammad that would be A-OK and not make me feel like crying in the least:--beaten up daily for the rest of his life
--repeatedly raped in the ass/mouth by other prisoners
--murdered by a victim's family member
--murdered by another prisoner
Go for it! Those all sound like justice to me. I just can't stand the thought of the death penalty. I guess I'm screwy.
I don't know what the form of punishment in current death penalty cases should be. I don't have a good alternative.
I can't say I was literally jumping for joy, but I sure was pleaded that this ended the way it did. Although "--repeatedly raped in the ass/mouth by other prisoners" would have sufficed. Followed by "--murdered by a victim's family member"
I'm not sure KD was predicating his disdain on one's feet literally leaving the ground...but I could be wrong.
Sorry, but I am a bit humourless when the topic is the capital punishment. In my country they invented the gas chambers for this "unpleasant business".I strongly disagree to this kind of barbarism. And it has not even any positive effect. Take these numbers for example.
With a population of 82 million, Germany had 864 homicides in 2007; there were around 20 times as many in the United States, where the population is not quite four times as big. (By MICHAEL KIMMELMAN
Published: The New York Times, August 26, 2009)
It's also cheeper to let them rot in prison than put them to death (with all the legal bills and such). I'm not arguing that those guys don't deserve to die. Because they do deserve it, and they will die eventually. But death is the easy part. Make the suckers suffer years of prison first. And saves a lot of controversy.
See, everyone says that capital punishment is such a polarizing topic, and I can see that it is. But I actually see both sides quite well and don't know exactly what to think. Also, the five worst minutes of my life were spent being convinced my husband (then fiance) was one of the folks shot down my Muhammad and Malvo, after a TV reporter got the intersection information wrong. She announced that one person was shot just before 8:30 at the intersection my husband crossed, on foot, just before 8:30 every morning as he walked to work. I couldn't reach him by phone and I spent five minutes in a hysterical panic, until I finally called his office manager and asked if he'd gotten in to work (yes).
The person to whom the TV reporter was referring, was James "Sonny" Buchanan, who was shot down while mowing the lawn of a car dealership (one block from my work). To this day, I feel guilty about the relief I felt finding out that it was Sonny Buchanan who took that bullet and not my husband.
It polarizes me right up against a wall. I can see parts of the other side but it doesn't help me find the middle ground. :(
Sorry Nikki, that was an awful time. My wife used to shop regularly at that Shoppers and the Michael's. Gretchen, where's my reward?
Nooooo. Not when you're expecting it. It will come disguised as homemade rolls around the holidays.(darn it! I've said too much!)
It is pretty ingenious. I would eat homemade rolls, even if I did know there was something awful inside.
