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message 351: by Elisabeth (Bets), ⭒assistant mod⭒ (new)

Elisabeth (Bets) (livingforjesus) | 6884 comments Mod
(Totally not me basing this off fantasy books I’ve read)


message 352: by ✧Bella✧ (new)

✧Bella✧  | 6751 comments Jasmine (Jazzie) wrote: "*sigh* So because I'm good, I have to give up my ability to control starlight?

(Sooo not me basing this character on one of my actual characters from my fantasy wip....)"


Absolutely not!


message 353: by Elisabeth (Bets), ⭒assistant mod⭒ (new)

Elisabeth (Bets) (livingforjesus) | 6884 comments Mod
I already said that Bella


message 354: by ✧Bella✧ (new)

✧Bella✧  | 6751 comments Bets, stop messing with the lore of this fantasy world, and trying to make it all allegorical!


message 355: by Elisabeth (Bets), ⭒assistant mod⭒ (new)

Elisabeth (Bets) (livingforjesus) | 6884 comments Mod
😇😇😇


message 356: by Elisabeth (Bets), ⭒assistant mod⭒ (new)

Elisabeth (Bets) (livingforjesus) | 6884 comments Mod
I’m big on allegory 😂


message 357: by [deleted user] (new)

Tolkien hated allegory


message 358: by Elisabeth (Bets), ⭒assistant mod⭒ (new)

Elisabeth (Bets) (livingforjesus) | 6884 comments Mod
Lewis loved it


message 359: by Jasmine (Jazzie) (new)

Jasmine (Jazzie) | 2876 comments Bets, I suppose it and all the other abilities elves have were given to us be the light, but I'm not completely sure. It isn't something we talk about much, if at all. Many elves assume that's just how things are.


message 360: by Jasmine (Jazzie) (new)

Jasmine (Jazzie) | 2876 comments *by


message 361: by Elisabeth (Bets), ⭒assistant mod⭒ (new)

Elisabeth (Bets) (livingforjesus) | 6884 comments Mod
Ok. Fair enough. You can of course keep your abilities.


message 362: by BooksNCrannies, ⭒assistant mod⭒ (new)

BooksNCrannies (booksncranniesofficial) | 1335 comments Mod
Bets, maybe you and I should use the comments from this chat to write a book together. I love allegory too.


message 363: by ✧Bella✧ (new)

✧Bella✧  | 6751 comments Why can't I have powers and be good? Sheesh.


message 364: by ✧Bella✧ (new)

✧Bella✧  | 6751 comments Maybe I should write a book based off of comments in this chat... but without the allegorical stuff lol.


message 365: by ✧Bella✧ (new)

✧Bella✧  | 6751 comments Elisabeth (Bets) wrote: "I’m big on allegory 😂"

But you're trying to use allegory to completely change my character. I was never supposed to be evil.


message 366: by Elisabeth (Bets), ⭒assistant mod⭒ (new)

Elisabeth (Bets) (livingforjesus) | 6884 comments Mod
Witches are always evil in books. At least ones that I’ve read. lol. I’ve never ever read a book with a good witch.


message 367: by [deleted user] (new)

Not modern books. Witches and vampires are good now. Or at least morally neutral


message 368: by ✧Bella✧ (last edited Sep 17, 2024 11:42AM) (new)

✧Bella✧  | 6751 comments Elisabeth (Bets) wrote: "Witches are always evil in books. At least ones that I’ve read. lol. I’ve never ever read a book with a good witch."

Oh come on, there are plenty of books with good witches.

Anyway, I like all the different sides, but when you start going allegorical and telling me I'm evil...


message 369: by Elisabeth (Bets), ⭒assistant mod⭒ (new)

Elisabeth (Bets) (livingforjesus) | 6884 comments Mod
Who kidnapped someone?? (Selah) The witches. We didn’t kidnap anyone. It was y’all.


message 370: by Elisabeth (Bets), ⭒assistant mod⭒ (new)

Elisabeth (Bets) (livingforjesus) | 6884 comments Mod
Ok fine, I won’t call you evil. You are the enemy tho.

Stephen, modern isn’t always better….


message 371: by Elisabeth (Bets), ⭒assistant mod⭒ (new)

Elisabeth (Bets) (livingforjesus) | 6884 comments Mod
Which books Bella?


message 372: by ✧Bella✧ (new)

✧Bella✧  | 6751 comments Elisabeth (Bets) wrote: "Who kidnapped someone?? (Selah) The witches. We didn’t kidnap anyone. It was y’all."

Well, that was the W.


message 373: by Elisabeth (Bets), ⭒assistant mod⭒ (new)

Elisabeth (Bets) (livingforjesus) | 6884 comments Mod
Who you’re siding with.


message 374: by P. Pherson (new)

P. Pherson Glinda, the good witch, its right in the name.


message 375: by ✧Bella✧ (new)

✧Bella✧  | 6751 comments Alright, fair. But I did tell him that was too far... I think...


message 376: by Elisabeth (Bets), ⭒assistant mod⭒ (new)

Elisabeth (Bets) (livingforjesus) | 6884 comments Mod
Mmhmm


message 377: by ✧Bella✧ (new)

✧Bella✧  | 6751 comments P. wrote: "Glinda, the good witch, its right in the name."

hah, yeah, I was thinking of her actually lol


message 378: by Elisabeth (Bets), ⭒assistant mod⭒ (new)

Elisabeth (Bets) (livingforjesus) | 6884 comments Mod
Alright, I’ll just say this, it’s super hard for me to not go allegorical on y’all 😂😂

I know we differ here so I’ll try to tone it down for y’all. But I do very firmly believe that everything should glorify God, which is why I prefer Christian fantasy and like allegorical books. Also why I’m trying to turn this “Christian” lol.

I’ll try to just roll with this tho.


message 379: by ✧Bella✧ (last edited Sep 17, 2024 11:49AM) (new)

✧Bella✧  | 6751 comments Lol. Yeah, I get it, it's just it started getting "Christian" out of nowhere. Although, tbh, maybe playing a villain would be fun lol. It's just not what I was going for here.


message 380: by Elisabeth (Bets), ⭒assistant mod⭒ (new)

Elisabeth (Bets) (livingforjesus) | 6884 comments Mod
😂😂 no Bella not out of nowhere 😂😂 I was doing the same thing back in the beginning. I’ll try and stop doing it so much tho.


message 381: by Elisabeth (Bets), ⭒assistant mod⭒ (new)

Elisabeth (Bets) (livingforjesus) | 6884 comments Mod
Ok so, just to clarify some things before we continue.

Where does the witches power come from in this fantasy world?


message 382: by ✧Bella✧ (new)

✧Bella✧  | 6751 comments Well, yeah, but it was just you jumping in once in a while, and now... well, you're trying to kill me with a flashlight. (oh, wait, that was BNC, but you helped)


message 383: by Elisabeth (Bets), ⭒assistant mod⭒ (new)

Elisabeth (Bets) (livingforjesus) | 6884 comments Mod
Also I’m gonna go for a bit. I wanna get some of The Count read.


message 384: by Elisabeth (Bets), ⭒assistant mod⭒ (new)

Elisabeth (Bets) (livingforjesus) | 6884 comments Mod
😂😂😂😂😂😂


message 385: by ✧Bella✧ (last edited Sep 17, 2024 11:52AM) (new)

✧Bella✧  | 6751 comments Elisabeth (Bets) wrote: "Ok so, just to clarify some things before we continue.

Where does the witches power come from in this fantasy world?"


They're just born with it. It's from the higher power, I guess. Maybe it's tied to nature?


message 386: by Elisabeth (Bets), ⭒assistant mod⭒ (new)

Elisabeth (Bets) (livingforjesus) | 6884 comments Mod
Fair enough. I apologize 😉


message 387: by Elisabeth (Bets), ⭒assistant mod⭒ (new)

Elisabeth (Bets) (livingforjesus) | 6884 comments Mod
Ok.


message 388: by Elisabeth (Bets), ⭒assistant mod⭒ (new)

Elisabeth (Bets) (livingforjesus) | 6884 comments Mod
Tho killing someone with a flashlight is intriguing.


message 389: by ✧Bella✧ (new)

✧Bella✧  | 6751 comments It's interesting for sure lol.


message 390: by P. Pherson (last edited Sep 17, 2024 12:08PM) (new)

P. Pherson I think the fantasy aspect of fantasy will always be something less then those who weigh more heavily on the faith side will enjoy.

Fantasy by its nature is something outside of the world as the Creator has made it. And allegory's pointing to the same story over and over does not bring much that needs to be considered again to the table.

If I was to write purely towards faith, I would just be rewriting the bible again and again.

But fantasy, and really all fiction, is always asking the question of What if? What if there was a world with dragons? What if there was a hidden world where wizards cast spells? what if there were good witches?

You cannot sharpen a knife by avoiding the stone. Its good to have beliefs, but if they are never challenged, never questioned, what really are they? To expand and still hold faith, to test and still believe, to challenge and still find true, Does that not strengthen faith, and make more glorious the adventure in Christ?

If we are not to encounter and weigh other belief sets, other schools of thought, other rational explanations, and the quest of philosophy, wouldn't we be better just to never leave our rooms?

I am going to roam and adventure. I feel I've kept my faith. And I like fantasy.


message 391: by ✧Bella✧ (new)

✧Bella✧  | 6751 comments *applause*


The M✝️(KALADIN & EPIC & ILIUM & TELEMARKET Ed.) Too late…I already killed him…🙃


message 393: by Elisabeth (Bets), ⭒assistant mod⭒ (new)

Elisabeth (Bets) (livingforjesus) | 6884 comments Mod
You killed P?! He was on our side I thought…


The M✝️(KALADIN & EPIC & ILIUM & TELEMARKET Ed.) No not P.!!! Your son…


message 395: by Elisabeth (Bets), ⭒assistant mod⭒ (new)

Elisabeth (Bets) (livingforjesus) | 6884 comments Mod
Oh him.


message 397: by Elisabeth (Bets), ⭒assistant mod⭒ (new)

Elisabeth (Bets) (livingforjesus) | 6884 comments Mod
Oh well. Makes it easier for me I guess. It is hard but it had to be done if he wouldn’t switch sides. So I’ll be grateful
I didn’t have to do it.


The M✝️(KALADIN & EPIC & ILIUM & TELEMARKET Ed.) Just trying to protect the kingdom 🫡


message 399: by Elisabeth (Bets), ⭒assistant mod⭒ (new)

Elisabeth (Bets) (livingforjesus) | 6884 comments Mod
Thanks


The M✝️(KALADIN & EPIC & ILIUM & TELEMARKET Ed.) No problem, your highness 🫡


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