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If anything, I'm just interested in religion, I'm not planning on following anything anytime soon. We all have our own little variations of the truth, I think that's what religion is. Nothing is ever right or wrong. Everything is grey.
Blind faith is not something I can follow. I'd rather believe in something that can show me otherwise.
Blind faith is not something I can follow. I'd rather believe in something that can show me otherwise.

We don't know everything. That's why everything can show us otherwise. That's why I choose to believe in people. I don't believe that we're here to follow the right. I believe we're here to make mistakes and find out what's right for US. There's a massive difference.

I grew up in religion and have always been LDS my whole life, and as I grow up in the church, I know more and more that it's true, and now, it's not so much faith. I know that it's true.

I don't follow you. In Mosiah something or other, it explains why we're here according to my religion. Anyway, everyone here thinks they're right, so I see no point in arguing. Nobody's going to change their opinion any time soon.
I'm just saying why I feel we're here. I think everyone argues about this because they AREN'T sure that they're right. I don't think any of us are right. We each have our own version of the truth.

There is proof for anything. You can always find the sources. You may be right, you might not. But it's right FOR YOU. And it's the truth FOR YOU. And I respect that. It just isn't for me.


Well, there are so many religions. And um, a lot of religions only favor some groups of people and not others.

It's the right religion for you. It's the truth for you. It's not going to be the truth for everyone. Religion may be for everyone, but not everyone will follow one, or follow it at all.

I've always tried doing that. I don't think one religion is good for everyone. Not everyone should be one thing. It never works.
Maybe they don't want to prove it.
I don't know why I think we're here, but I know I don't believe it's for that reason. It's something much more complicated and painful.
I don't know why I think we're here, but I know I don't believe it's for that reason. It's something much more complicated and painful.
(G)Emma wrote: "If anything, I'm just interested in religion, I'm not planning on following anything anytime soon. We all have our own little variations of the truth, I think that's what religion is. Nothing is ev..."
I feel the same. about blind faith. I'd like to know what to believe, I've grown up believing in God, but once i've learned some of the faults in the Bible, and the whole science debacle, i just don't really know. I want something that tells me what is real and what is not, even tho i know religion isn't about proof, it's about what you believe. i just don't know what to believe.
I feel the same. about blind faith. I'd like to know what to believe, I've grown up believing in God, but once i've learned some of the faults in the Bible, and the whole science debacle, i just don't really know. I want something that tells me what is real and what is not, even tho i know religion isn't about proof, it's about what you believe. i just don't know what to believe.
There's always one thing I will believe in though. Though it's hard to.
People. People including yourself.
People. People including yourself.

Because we know that people are real, and people are strong. People are worth it. They hurt each other and themselves, but they can also heal.
I don't think I can ever believe in something that is supposedly all knowing. Because nothing ever is.
I don't think I can ever believe in something that is supposedly all knowing. Because nothing ever is.
Yeah, in your opinion. I don't think anything is ever all knowing, and I don't believe anything can see everything perfectly clearly without any problems with desire or envy or anything.
People, people hurt others, and they wreck things, but they are real and they are miraculous. They can heal and they can cure and help and protect and make things better.
People, people hurt others, and they wreck things, but they are real and they are miraculous. They can heal and they can cure and help and protect and make things better.

Yeah, some people are absolutely horrible. But they arent just bad. No one is. We are all grey. We are not completely light or dark. I have faith in people.

I don't think anyone is completely light or dark. We are all good AND bad. In my opinion, that is. It gives me hope, because that means that no one is absolutely bad. And they aren't.
whoa whoa whoa wait. just bcuz ur batized sooo doesn't mean ur perfect and good. plenty of bad people have been baptized. plenty of amazing people havent.
okay.
sigh.
this discussion is going in circles
okay.
sigh.
this discussion is going in circles
no the Apes turned INTO us thats y we have somany things in COMMON
people only made up the story of god cuz they wanted a theory to discribe things around them now that we know that earth is round we get that god is a MYTH (wait do u know that earth is round???)
people only made up the story of god cuz they wanted a theory to discribe things around them now that we know that earth is round we get that god is a MYTH (wait do u know that earth is round???)
Ahem, really, this conversation IS going in circles.
My mother didn't want me to be baptized because she wanted me to experiment with religions and see which one is right for me.
My mother didn't want me to be baptized because she wanted me to experiment with religions and see which one is right for me.


people only made up the story of god cuz they wanted a theory to discribe things around them now that we know that earth is roun..."
How does the Earth being round say that God is fake in any way?? You don't know that God didn't manipulate the world and use science to bring about the creation of the Earth. Personally, I think that it took much more than seven days to create the Earth, and that each day is just a symbolism for a long time, but then again that's a matter of opinion.
Earth being round has to do with the fact that it was a way of explaining things when most people didn't have an explanation. God was a nother way of explaining things.
ok lets just say god DID make earth evolve and wat not. God seems mighty mean if u ask me think about it he believes that girls are like slaves and that if someone does something wrong he neads to punish them if he DOES exist he should just mind his own buisness!!!! and think about this if god was able to creat this then wat about the universe the many galixies out there how is it that one guy made it???? o ya and answer me this how do u know that god isn't Gay??? maybe God liked a guy. the stories in the bible were made up anyway they never say that god isn't gay. the bible is just stories over time these stories presented hope to people who read them soon they convinced themselves that it was real and then religeons spread. think for ureself does this seam real or are u just thinking on wat ur parents say and wat ur church says? if u ask me religeon is full of hatred it's the reason y half the wars happen.
ok lets just say god DID make earth evolve and wat not. God seems mighty mean if u ask me think about it he believes that girls are like slaves and that if someone does something wrong he neads to punish them if he DOES exist he should just mind his own buisness!!!! and think about this if god was able to creat this then wat about the universe the many galixies out there how is it that one guy made it???? o ya and answer me this how do u know that god isn't Gay??? maybe God liked a guy. the stories in the bible were made up anyway they never say that god isn't gay. the bible is just stories over time these stories presented hope to people who read them soon they convinced themselves that it was real and then religeons spread. think for ureself does this seam real or are u just thinking on wat ur parents say and wat ur church says? if u ask me religeon is full of hatred it's the reason y half the wars happen.


Um, I do agree that religion is full of hatred, but it is also full of love. It depends on which scriptures you follow and who you are. I think religion is good in the sense that a lot of people have found hope in it and gotten better lives because of that hope. I just don't like religion in the sense that everyone thinks they're right, and they fight about it.
And um, Lindsay, Jesus DID kinda have a relationship with Mary Mangdelen, (sp?) well, he might've might not have.
And um, Lindsay, Jesus DID kinda have a relationship with Mary Mangdelen, (sp?) well, he might've might not have.
(G)Emma wrote: "Ahem, really, this conversation IS going in circles.
My mother didn't want me to be baptized because she wanted me to experiment with religions and see which one is right for me. "
me too. my mom as raised catholic, but had some problems with the religion, so didn't want me to be baptized, so i could find God for myself. My cousins on my other side tho, pretty much thinks we're going 2 h*** cuz we're not super religious like them.
My mother didn't want me to be baptized because she wanted me to experiment with religions and see which one is right for me. "
me too. my mom as raised catholic, but had some problems with the religion, so didn't want me to be baptized, so i could find God for myself. My cousins on my other side tho, pretty much thinks we're going 2 h*** cuz we're not super religious like them.
so if u believe in the bible is ur father gonna sell u to slavery??? and beat u