Fee and Pip!?!?! (TSFT SPOILER ALERT!!)

[Emma]

I was practically banging myhead against the wall when I found out! It was so freaking obvious!!!!!

[Emma]

I should have, they were always so close, I think they started dating in Rebel, because obviously it wouldn't be accepted in Victorian Society, and they could be found out.

[Emma]

Do you guys think they started showing their attraction for each other in Rebel Angel's or TSFT?

[Emma]

I think its actually the other way around, Pip having more attraction in the beginning anyway and Fee being more attracted when she was lost in the realms.

[Emma]

True, but I think she didn't know that she was in love with Fee at the beginning. Like, she hung on every word Fee said and she was Fee's best friend, but then when she was in the realms she realized her attraction to Fee.

[Emma]

Ya know, that makes sense, I was really surprised at the end how Pip manipulated Fee instead of the other way around. I think also, they knew the end was near so whats the point of hiding it anymore? And they should have a last moment of love, so it makes sense. And Fee was desperate to see Pip ever since Pip left to the realms. Especially with the factory girls there.

[Allie, A hopeless romantic who doesn't believe in love]

I saw it for Felicity in the very first book, and there were some hints about Pip. I was still surprised, but I'm like, oh yea, i sorta saw that coming.

[Emma]

Pip seemed so set on guys though, but it might've been because of society, so when she was talking about boys she was talking about girls. But then again she was always jealous of Gemma...

[Emma]

That's true,it was normal. I think they didn't realize their feeling for each other until Pippa went to the realms. I think Pippa is bisexual too.

[[deleted user]]

Bisexual? Not sure what that is, sorry!

[[deleted user]]

And I never saw it coming. I had to reread that part of it cause I was like, wait what just happened?

[Emma]

Bisexual is when someone likes both females and makes. I was soo mad at myself that I didn't see it.

[Kristin]

I was kinda shocked as well. But all the signs were there.

[Emma]

Very true.

[Kristin]

All the quiet discussions and always wanting to be together. How strongly Fee felt about going to the realms to see Pip. Now that I look back i feel so, so stupid for not guessing it in the first place.

[Emma]

I know! I've said it before and I will say it again, I was banging my head against the wall for not noticing it! I absolutely love Libba for being true to her books despite it being controversal.

[Kristin]

I happen to think it was a great Idea. It makes her book different than other books. And its life. There is no reason for writers to block or hide life.

[Emma]

Exactly. Every word in Libba's books are real and beautiful. And she is true to her books.

[Kristin]

She is a wonderful Author. there aren't many like her. The way she writes...its just...well as you said beautiful.

[Emma]

Not to mention she is soo down to earth. I would love to meet her! She's not someone whose fame has gone to her head, she is so wonderful and funny!

[Kristin]

Also what I like about her writing is that she is very sarcastic. And that is exactly how my family is. Have you heard of the new book she is writing?

[Emma]

Yep! I'm going to be one of the first people in line! She has the british tone down, but then again, I'm not english, so I wouldn't know.

[Kristin]

LOL! I with i was British! I don't know what to make of this book. it sounds like it will be very funny though.

[Emma]

And amazing!

[Kristin]

Oh, yes how could I forget that!LOL

[Emma]

Haha!

[[deleted user]]

I love sarcasm! In my plays my favorite characters are always VERY sarcastic!

[Emma]

Haha, I love sacasm as well. It's kind of like a very witty humor.

[[deleted user]]

I love witty humor and sarcasm!!!!!!!!!!! Thats why I LOVE Shakespeare!

[Emma]

Haha!

[Emma]

Hmm, I re-read AGATB and I agree with Taylor that Fee loved Pip first now. Fee was always scolding Pip for having her head in the clouds.

[Allie, A hopeless romantic who doesn't believe in love]

yeah. and she seemed jealous of mr. bumble or wutever and whenever pip was talking to gemma

[Lexi]

well it did always say in the books something like "the tenderness of their friendship" and how gemma thought that she could never b as close to pippa or fee as they were to eachother. so i think it was going on the whole time...and and and
idk where im going w/ this

[[deleted user]]

i was really suprised with fee and pip....i had no idea and when i did know it took me like a week to really except it!

[Lisa]

You know, it wasn't something I saw coming, but it didn't really seem surprising when it finally was revealed. I guess it just made sense. The only part of the books that bugged me was the part at the end when Felicity tells Gemma that there are "others like me" in Paris, and she may love again. I kind of felt like a major theme of the books was "you don't need a man to be happy". So why did Fee have to think she would want another romantic relationship at all?

[Allie, A hopeless romantic who doesn't believe in love]

I was, like i said, slightly surprised, but I saw hints in the very first book, and it was kinda at the back of my mind, so when it came out, I was just like, 'oh. okay. I was right.' lol

[[deleted user]]

i guess it makes since....but cuz like in the caves when fee was like im gunna have hundreds of men....idkk

[Allie, A hopeless romantic who doesn't believe in love]

yeah.... but pippa was all shocked at her and felicity was being teasing or something, i thinks. so, idk, mayb she's bi.
I also agree (i'm re-reading these posts) with wut taylor said, about fee loving pippa first, but i think it became stronger when pippa was lost, and that's when she started to really love fee back. before that, i think she just wanted the attention.
hmm.... i think libba answered this in one of her blogs.... *goes to find*

[Allie, A hopeless romantic who doesn't believe in love]

*sigh* haven't found the fee/pip part yet. But this refers to what you said lisa, about needing/not needing a man-

I’ve read through your many posts now, and I am surprised to see so many that ask, “How can Gemma live without Kartik?” or “He was the best part of the book!”
Really? I mean, really really?
I admit to being somewhat distressed by these sentiments. There are many strong female characters in this book—women who, to me, are every bit as important as a certain young man from the Rakshana whom I also happen to love. But the story is, ultimately, Gemma’s, after all. I hope that within these roughly 2,000 pages is a tale about women searching for their place in the world, coming to terms with themselves, fighting for change, accepting their power, dealing with issues of friendship, family, responsibility, sexuality, and identity, struggling with fears and doubts, hope and longing, oppression and desire. I hope.
And yet, it seems as if the prevailing sentiment is, The only thing that matters is the man/is having a man. Am I mistaken? Am I reading this incorrectly? I’m asking.
Love and romance are certainly important. I get that. I like romance, too, though it’s more of a Billy Wilder kind of romance than a Harlequin kind of romance. I would wager that we all want to share our lives with a partner. I have been happily married for many years in a relationship that I treasure and that has forced me to grow up many, many times over. I won’t bore you with my thoughts about the first blush of romantic love versus the sort of work that is necessary for a mature, lasting love and partnership (suffice to say that when the baby is vomiting at 2:00 a.m. and the heat’s gone out again, it is not about hearts and roses and eyes like pools of mud…)

[Allie, A hopeless romantic who doesn't believe in love]

ah-ha! *victory dance* I found it, I found it!

“Was Felicity always gay/Were Fee and Pip always lovers?”

I always felt that Fee was gay and that she was in denial, thus the fling with Ithal and others. I don’t think it’s until she has the freedom of the realms that she begins to understand herself and her feelings for Pip.

I always felt that Pip’s sexuality might be more in flux. She doesn’t really know who she is or what she wants and wants people to tell her, which is part of what makes her so dangerous. She does love Fee but she enjoys toying with people—she enjoys having people want her. (She manipulates Bessie’s affections quite a bit.) But Felicity’s love for her is true and, as said, probably keeps Pip human a while longer past her “sell by” date.

Though there are hints along the way, I don’t think it’s until TSFT that they act on their feelings.

[Emma]

Lisa, I don't think it was Fee needing a romantic relationship as much as knowing that there are other lesbians and bisexuals out there.

[Lisa]

(G)Emma wrote: "Lisa, I don't think it was Fee needing a romantic relationship as much as knowing that there are other lesbians and bisexuals out there."

Oh, I hadn't thought of that. Different slant entirely!

[Emma]

Haha yeah, that's sort of my take on it.

[[deleted user]]

ya i thought that might happen because Pip really didn't want 2 marry that guy and felicity was soooo mad when she found out though i wasn't really sure

[Emma]

It was very obvious I think.

[[deleted user]]

the only thing that kinda caught me was that Fee seamed to kinda like that Indian guy

[Emma]

Ithal? Well, she could've just been hiding it, or as we've previously talked about Fee could be bisexual.

[Lisa]

Or, she was just 16 and confused......because that's probably the most important thing for a Victorian woman, a man, right?

[Emma]

I agree Lisa. That's probably it.

[Lexi]

*shakes head in agreement*