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message 1: by Mikita (new)

Mikita | 321 comments Hey Guys,
While reading the 'adding books' section a question appeared about one of the author and his book.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...
Seems like this book does not have isbn and was not published anywhere. And was added by the author himself.
Is it a valid record at all? Based on the author's answers it seems like this books is only a pdf but I am not sure. Though I cannot find any information about it.


message 2: by L J (new)

L J | 625 comments Is it print on demand? It says paperback. Is it PDF, paperback, or both?

How is it available / distributed? This question needs an answer regardless of format. The answer may determine validity.

PDFs can be valid but more information is needed.


message 3: by Mikita (new)

Mikita | 321 comments L J wrote: "Is it print on demand? It says paperback. Is it PDF, paperback, or both?

How is it available / distributed? This question needs an answer regardless of format. The answer may determine validity.

..."


Based on the author's answers here it more seems like the only way I can read it is just write him and he will send the pdf)
https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...


message 4: by L J (last edited Jun 10, 2023 03:25PM) (new)

L J | 625 comments Mikita wrote: "L J wrote: "Is it print on demand? It says paperback. Is it PDF, paperback, or both?

How is it available / distributed? This question needs an answer regardless of format. The answer may determine..."


I read that discussion. For me it raised questions rather than providing answers.

Like you I am unsure this is a book by Goodreads standards. Author offering the book is another problem as it could be viewed as self-promotion.

ETA: Do they understand that Goodreads database is list of books, not a catalog of books for sale nor books available here to read?


message 5: by Mikita (new)

Mikita | 321 comments Yeah, the same thing, author's answers causing more and more questions) But it anyway seems to me that this is not a real book so it does not match the GR standards. But I am new here so not sure I can do anything with it.

And agree with you, some people think this is a catalog)


Elizabeth (Alaska) Mikita wrote: "And agree with you, some people think this is a catalog"

This *is* a catalog. Goodreads attempts to have this be a catalog of all books ever published. That "ever published" has some restrictions, but most books qualify.


message 7: by L J (new)

L J | 625 comments Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "Mikita wrote: "And agree with you, some people think this is a catalog"

This *is* a catalog. Goodreads attempts to have this be a catalog of all books ever published. That "ever published" has som..."


Sorry, guess I wasn't as clear as I could have been. I meant book database on Goodreads is not limited to books that are currently for sale.


message 8: by Mikita (new)

Mikita | 321 comments Mikita wrote: "Yeah, the same thing, author's answers causing more and more questions) But it anyway seems to me that this is not a real book so it does not match the GR standards. But I am new here so not sure I..."

So if the book was never published and it seems like the only way to read this if author send you a pdf - this is ok to have such a book added on GR?


message 9: by Elizabeth (Alaska) (last edited Jun 11, 2023 01:47PM) (new)

Elizabeth (Alaska) Mikita wrote: "So if the book was never published and it seems like the only way to read this if author send you a pdf "

pub·lish
verb
1.
prepare and issue (a book, journal, piece of music, etc.) for public sale, distribution, or readership.


The author sending you a PDF *is* published. Goodreads restricts some such publications if you have to sign up for a newsletter or the publication is hidden in some other way.


message 10: by Javier (new)

Javier (palchetti) | 30430 comments If the only way to get the book is by contacting the author directly, I'd say it should not be added to the database.

See Rivka's message here:
https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...


message 11: by Mikita (new)

Mikita | 321 comments It becomes more and more complicated)


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