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message 51: by Nancy, Co-Moderator (new)

Nancy Oakes (quinnsmom) | 10110 comments Mod
I read an article where a man was convicted, then later acquitted of murder, but 20 years later DNA in the case was tested. It was him, but the state couldn't retry him. He would have stayed free, but he was in the Army and they tried him. If he hadn't been military, he would be a free man.

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/201...


message 52: by Wendy (new)

Wendy | 581 comments It is doubtful the cold case will ever be solved. Although, my vague recollection was there would have been lots of forensics.. aka blood. but they never solved Bob Crane of Hogan's Heroes murder either where he was similarly murdered.


message 53: by E. (new)

E. | 521 comments I think if the guy was found "not guilty" they can't retry him for the same crime. They would have to come at it from a different direction with a different charge. He could also be tried in a civil court with a monetary punishment (via a family member) but no prison.


message 54: by Wendy (new)

Wendy | 581 comments just read the article... wow


message 55: by Feliks (new)

Feliks (dzerzhinsky) Never heard of anyone named 'Durst'. Probably some lead vocalist..latest boy-band. It all merges together after a while. Just like when watching prime-time tv and two commercials appear at the break (1) KFC, is finger-licking good (2) Preparation-H eases hemmorhoids fast

Irrelevant topic #2 from me: when it comes to my kitchen junk drawer, stocked with (1) wax paper, (2) Saran wrap, and (3) Tin Foil...I gotta say I love the hell outta tin foil. Saran Wrap is annoying and Wax paper only has limited usage. Tin Foil is amazing in that it never gets hot-to-the-touch. And there's something very satisfying about crunching it into a ball in your hand after use. Also like the sound. What a great product.


message 56: by Nancy, Co-Moderator (new)

Nancy Oakes (quinnsmom) | 10110 comments Mod
E. wrote: "I think if the guy was found "not guilty" they can't retry him for the same crime. They would have to come at it from a different direction with a different charge. He could also be tried in a civi..."

That would be my thinking as well.


message 57: by Nancy, Co-Moderator (new)

Nancy Oakes (quinnsmom) | 10110 comments Mod
Wendy wrote: "just read the article... wow"

Isn't that a bizarre story?


message 58: by Nancy, Co-Moderator (new)

Nancy Oakes (quinnsmom) | 10110 comments Mod
Feliks wrote: "Never heard of anyone named 'Durst'. Probably some lead vocalist..latest boy-band. It all merges together after a while. Just like when watching prime-time tv and two commercials appear at the brea..."

Look him up.


message 59: by Nancy, Co-Moderator (new)

Nancy Oakes (quinnsmom) | 10110 comments Mod
Is anyone going to watch Going Clear on HBO?


message 60: by Jenn (new)

Jenn Nancy wrote: "Is anyone going to watch Going Clear on HBO?"

Yes, can't wait for that one!


message 61: by Nancy, Co-Moderator (new)

Nancy Oakes (quinnsmom) | 10110 comments Mod
Jenn wrote: "Nancy wrote: "Is anyone going to watch Going Clear on HBO?"

Yes, can't wait for that one!"


I've already got it set up to DVR. Did you read the book? Fascinating -- the author ran into a lot of hassle from Scientology re the publishing of his book.


message 62: by Feliks (new)

Feliks (dzerzhinsky) Nancy wrote: "Look him up. ..."

I didn't bring my 32 volume set of Encyclopedia Britannica with me when I left college. :)


message 63: by Nancy, Co-Moderator (new)

Nancy Oakes (quinnsmom) | 10110 comments Mod
Feliks wrote: "Nancy wrote: "Look him up. ..."

I didn't bring my 32 volume set of Encyclopedia Britannica with me when I left college. :)"


I doubt you'd find him in there anyway.


message 64: by Jenn (new)

Jenn Nancy wrote: "Jenn wrote: "Nancy wrote: "Is anyone going to watch Going Clear on HBO?"

Yes, can't wait for that one!"

I've already got it set up to DVR. Did you read the book? Fascinating -- the author ran i..."


No, I only heard about it in a recent article I read, and then I saw the previews during The Jinx. At my college, Scientologists were always leaving flyers on the cars in the dorm parking lots. Seemed to be a big thing in California, but I don't hear anything about it in Colorado.


message 65: by Wendy (new)

Wendy | 581 comments I do not have HBO, so not likely. A co-worker was becoming one years ago. It was awkward because she was SO STOKED on it, and I was just starting to go back to my Jewish roots. As a minority Jew, I learned a long time ago to just nod silently and bite my tongue with anyone who tries to change my views.


message 66: by Jan C (new)

Jan C (woeisme) | 39173 comments I lived in a house where one young man (my roommate's son) got involved in it. I tried to discourage him, they were Jewish, and he wouldn't listen for the longest time. Eventually, he decided they were too controlling and left on his own. I don't think he was that deeply into it, had only been with it a couple of months. Thank goodness.


message 67: by Wendy (new)

Wendy | 581 comments I have wondered if she stuck with it...she was had a very domineering personality. (We were working independent living with a young woman who fired her for being too bossy.


message 68: by Jan C (new)

Jan C (woeisme) | 39173 comments That doesn't sound like a very susceptible personality. People usually need to be looking for something.


message 69: by Nancy, Co-Moderator (new)

Nancy Oakes (quinnsmom) | 10110 comments Mod
Here's food for thought:

http://www.theguardian.com/books/book...


message 70: by Jan C (new)

Jan C (woeisme) | 39173 comments I am not sure what to think of this title for a children's book - The Donner Dinner Party (couldn't find a link). It shows a cattle skull on the cover. A little more accuracy might show a human skull. But "dinner party" when what they dined on was each other. It just seems a poor choice for a title. Now it may be that they had a dinner party before they fell upon disaster. But still a poor choice.


message 71: by Tom (new)

Tom | 141 comments Ha that is awesome


message 72: by Nancy, Co-Moderator (new)

Nancy Oakes (quinnsmom) | 10110 comments Mod
here's the blurb:

"Hale ... tells the harrowing story of the ill-fated Donner party. Beginning with their departure from Springfield, Illinois, in 1846, Hale depicts the party’s progress in small but clear panels and includes lots of factual details, such as a roster of everyone in the party, how they died, and a helpful map showing just how tantalizingly close they came to California before meeting their grisly end. It’s a difficult story, and Hale makes ­allowances for sensitive readers: “Horrible things are going to happen. If you are easily upset, skip ahead.” But despite the gruesome facts, Hale keeps it relatively light and lifts the mood with some much-needed humor, thanks in no small part to the over-the-top executioner—who, for instance, is outrageously sensitive to the death of cute and fuzzy animals but surprisingly nonchalant about cannibalism. "

egad. I wouldn't be sure about it either.


message 73: by Jan C (new)

Jan C (woeisme) | 39173 comments Nancy wrote: "here's the blurb:

"Hale ... tells the harrowing story of the ill-fated Donner party. Beginning with their departure from Springfield, Illinois, in 1846, Hale depicts the party’s progress in small ..."


I had trouble enough in my 20s reading Bernard DeVoto's The Year of Decision 1846 which details what happened (among other events of 1846). And that was more straightforward history. Dispassionate, if you will.


message 74: by Jan C (new)

Jan C (woeisme) | 39173 comments Nancy wrote: "Here's food for thought:

http://www.theguardian.com/books/book..."


Interesting article. Maybe Laurie R. King came to the same conclusion with her Kate Martinelli stories. And thus came up with her Mary Russell stories.


message 75: by Wendy (new)

Wendy | 581 comments I am from the USA. We now have a group of mostly volunteers called the Innocence Project who strive to free falsely imprisoned. Reasons: dna, new suspects, false/poor witness, corrupt __. They've freed over 300 people. One guy served 27 years. Anything like this in other countries?


message 76: by Nancy, Co-Moderator (new)

Nancy Oakes (quinnsmom) | 10110 comments Mod
question to anyone reading this: Has anyone seen Archer?
http://www.fxnetworks.com/shows/arche...

I saw an ad for this show on Hulu and I'm wondering if it's any good.


message 77: by Tom (new)

Tom | 141 comments Archer is awesome! Funny take on the spy genre. The voices are impeccable


message 78: by Nancy, Co-Moderator (new)

Nancy Oakes (quinnsmom) | 10110 comments Mod
Tom wrote: "Archer is awesome! Funny take on the spy genre. The voices are impeccable"

I'm considering watching it while I'm a work widow next week.


message 79: by Tom (new)

Tom | 141 comments Its a little irreverent I will warn but I don't get offended very easily


message 80: by Nancy, Co-Moderator (new)

Nancy Oakes (quinnsmom) | 10110 comments Mod
Tom wrote: "Its a little irreverent I will warn but I don't get offended very easily"

Irreverent doesn't bother me at all -- I'm a huge South Park fan.


message 81: by Tom (new)

Tom | 141 comments OK. it's not THAT irreverent so you will be fine :-)


message 82: by Nancy, Co-Moderator (new)

Nancy Oakes (quinnsmom) | 10110 comments Mod
I can't help myself with South Park. I've been a fan for years. I know it's pretty awful, but it is just too funny.


message 83: by Wendy (new)

Wendy | 581 comments I also recommend Archer. I found it gloriously offensive in that OMG way. Think of a inept, politically incorrect, rated R James Bond.


message 84: by Wendy (new)

Wendy | 581 comments South Park, was also fun. I esp liked the jokes about the Jewish kid. (I'm Jewish) Although that human centipede was just gross.


message 85: by Nancy, Co-Moderator (new)

Nancy Oakes (quinnsmom) | 10110 comments Mod
Wendy wrote: "South Park, was also fun. I esp liked the jokes about the Jewish kid. (I'm Jewish) Although that human centipede was just gross."

My husband's Jewish as well, so we enjoy the humor. I hated that episode! Ewwwwww.


message 86: by Nancy, Co-Moderator (new)

Nancy Oakes (quinnsmom) | 10110 comments Mod
Wendy wrote: "I also recommend Archer. I found it gloriously offensive in that OMG way. Think of a inept, politically incorrect, rated R James Bond."

I'll give it a try.


message 87: by Nancy, Co-Moderator (last edited Apr 25, 2015 01:23PM) (new)

Nancy Oakes (quinnsmom) | 10110 comments Mod
A very, very horrific day in Nepal.


message 88: by Jan C (new)

Jan C (woeisme) | 39173 comments And a bad day on Everest.


message 89: by Nancy, Co-Moderator (new)

Nancy Oakes (quinnsmom) | 10110 comments Mod
I have this thing about getting overly involved in tragedy and sitting there sobbing so Larry told me not to watch the news. I did check BBC news here and there throughout the day though. I can't even imagine.


message 90: by Nancy, Co-Moderator (new)

Nancy Oakes (quinnsmom) | 10110 comments Mod
I don't feel alone now, Denise -- Thank you! I'm limiting myself to news videos from BBC in Nepal, but if there are are children in the picture, I'm flattened.


message 91: by Chris (new)

Chris Phipps | 6 comments o do I know I'm a mystery writer? A doctor's office today asked me for my husband's middle name. "M," I said. "N?" she asked. "No," I replied, and added without thinking, "M, as in murder."


message 92: by Nancy, Co-Moderator (new)

Nancy Oakes (quinnsmom) | 10110 comments Mod
Chris wrote: "o do I know I'm a mystery writer? A doctor's office today asked me for my husband's middle name. "M," I said. "N?" she asked. "No," I replied, and added without thinking, "M, as in murder.""

too funny!


Sandysbookaday (taking a midwinter break) (sandyj21) | 4769 comments Chris wrote: "o do I know I'm a mystery writer? A doctor's office today asked me for my husband's middle name. "M," I said. "N?" she asked. "No," I replied, and added without thinking, "M, as in murder.""

That is so funny Chris! 8:D


message 94: by Laurie (new)

Laurie Just read that Ruth Rendell died. I have enjoyed her Wexford series and other novels over the years. Sorry to say goodbye to another talented author.


message 95: by Nancy, Co-Moderator (new)

Nancy Oakes (quinnsmom) | 10110 comments Mod
Thanks so much, Laurie.
Here's an obituary from The Guardian:
http://www.theguardian.com/books/2015...

She has given me hours and hours of pure pleasure for years.


message 96: by Jan C (new)

Jan C (woeisme) | 39173 comments Sad news.


message 97: by Nancy, Co-Moderator (last edited May 04, 2015 06:21AM) (new)

Nancy Oakes (quinnsmom) | 10110 comments Mod
The Guardian named five "key" works of hers -- when I get caught up with real-life stuff, I'm going to go read/reread them:

From Doon With Death,
Not in the Flesh,
A Judgement in Stone (which, by the way, is my favorite of hers as Rendell),
Adam and Eve and Pinch Me,
and my favorite of her novels as Barbara Vine, A Dark-Adapted Eye.


message 98: by Wendy (last edited May 04, 2015 08:55PM) (new)

Wendy | 581 comments Unbelievable! I have not read any of her books according to my Lists... I AM positive I read a Barbra Vine book, just do not know which one. I read some of PD James years ago as well as watched the BBC/PBS Mystery! Adaptions.


message 99: by Thomas (new)

Thomas (tom471) | 2003 comments While I have read 3 of her books, I have not read any of the "key" books. I will have add them to my tbr list.


message 100: by Nancy, Co-Moderator (new)

Nancy Oakes (quinnsmom) | 10110 comments Mod
I'm planning on nominating a Rendell novel for an upcoming group read. Stay tuned -- thread will be posted today.


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