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message 151: by Nancy, Co-Moderator (new)

Nancy Oakes (quinnsmom) | 10110 comments Mod
Lance wrote:

Because they're two entirely different art forms. When you try to boil a 400-page book down into a two-hour film, you..."


I get that, but in the case of "The Woman in Black," they changed the entire thing. The story was way off track, and the shock/twist was changed so that that it didn't even resemble the book. Meaning is lost.


message 152: by Georgia (new)

Georgia | 554 comments Ok all of you out there! Have you been watching the Outlander series??
What do you think? Book to TV?


message 153: by Bill (new)

Bill Georgia wrote: "Ok all of you out there! Have you been watching the Outlander series??
What do you think? Book to TV?"


I watched the first episode, not really my thing. Having said that I also read the first 3 books and enjoyed reasonably enough.


message 154: by Faith (new)

Faith | 136 comments I'm wondering what people think about binge watching TV shows. More and more networks are jumping on that bandwagon. I started thinking about this when many people were playing catch-up with "Breaking Bad", which I watched from the first episode. I know people who binged the show had a very different experience than I did - not better or worse, just different. I really think some shows are better when watched week to week, or season to season, rather than all over one weekend. I also think more and more shows will be made with an eye toward binge watching and wonder how they'll differ from shows made pre-binge.

I have absolutely no idea why this fascinates me, but it does. Anyone have any thoughts?


message 155: by Tom (new)

Tom | 141 comments I don't know how things will turn out for regular series but I think we might start seeing more 'mini' series. I might not be the best to ask though, even show I am supposed to be binge watching ( X-Files from the beginning, True Blood) I only end up watching at the most 2 before I give up and wait a few weeks.


message 156: by Nancy, Co-Moderator (new)

Nancy Oakes (quinnsmom) | 10110 comments Mod
I binge mostly when my husband travels, but when he's home we actually prefer several episodes all at once rather than do the weekly series thing. A) I hate ads, b) it's much more immediately gratifying, and c) we don't watch many shows.


message 157: by Barbara (new)

Barbara (cinnabarb) | 9973 comments I like to binge watch because I want to see what happens right away; not wait from week to week. Especially shows that are continuous and suspenseful like "24" or "Game of Thrones".


message 158: by Jan C (new)

Jan C (woeisme) | 39173 comments I binge watch because I never remember when shows are on. And since I retired I don't always keep great track of what day it is. So I will suddenly realize what day it is and think - rats, I wanted to watch a show last night. Then I just have to hope it is available on demand.


message 159: by Michael (new)

Michael (micky74007) Aren't there better things to do in life than spend multiple hours watching someone else's creativity?


message 160: by Faith (new)

Faith | 136 comments I'm sure there are better things to do, and honest, I really do some of them, but I'm an unapologetic TV and pop culture junkie!

As for binging, as I said before, I do think more shows are being made with an eye toward that and this may show up in pacing and perhaps even season length. For me episodes of a lot of older show (anything that started more than a few years ago) often feel like they need at least a few days to digest before I move on to the next episode. On occasion I've tried to watch too many episodes in a row and its put me off the show completely. I hate ads too, so I usually use my DVR.

Of course, it all depends on the show. My son and I have been barreling through Korra (not something I'd usually watch on my own) and I've been chomping at the bit.


Sandysbookaday (taking a midwinter break) (sandyj21) | 4769 comments I am with Faith....but because I am in Hospitality I auto-record all my favorite shows on MySky, so i get to ff through the ads! I have to admit though that if something absolutely grips me I will watch a couple of episodes back to back. But I can only take so much TV...I'd rather have my nose in a book! 8:D


message 162: by Jan C (new)

Jan C (woeisme) | 39173 comments I usually don't just watch. I am also usually on the tablet/computer, reading a book or whatever while also binging.


message 163: by Nancy, Co-Moderator (new)

Nancy Oakes (quinnsmom) | 10110 comments Mod
Coming in the near future for your binge-watching pleasure: the entire Ripley series

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live...


message 164: by Portia (new)

Portia Binge, binge, binge, binge

Sung to Monty Python's

Spam, spam, spam, spam


message 165: by Bill (new)

Bill Portia wrote: "Binge, binge, binge, binge

Sung to Monty Python's

Spam, spam, spam, spam"


lol


message 166: by Nancy, Co-Moderator (new)

Nancy Oakes (quinnsmom) | 10110 comments Mod
Re Aquarius, the TV show: I watched the first two episodes and I'm going to give the rest of the season a pass. Charles Manson involved in some sort of secret conspiracy just isn't my thing.


message 167: by Michael (new)

Michael (micky74007) Nancy wrote: "Re Aquarius, the TV show: I watched the first two episodes and I'm going to give the rest of the season a pass. Charles Manson involved in some sort of secret conspiracy just isn't my thing."

Agreed. This was just too off the wall.


message 168: by Bill (new)

Bill We've only seen the first episode so far and it was interesting. We'll keep watching for now. Catching up on Season 2 of Ripper Street so we can start watching the latest season. That is an excellent series so far. Last night we found a new series, I think a British/ Swedish venture. This is the write up from imdb.. "Perched on the edge of the Arctic Circle, Fortitude is one of the safest towns on earth. There has never been a violent crime here. Until now".. We liked the first episode, not sure at all where this is going.


message 169: by Georgia (new)

Georgia | 554 comments Michael wrote: "Nancy wrote: "Re Aquarius, the TV show: I watched the first two episodes and I'm going to give the rest of the season a pass. Charles Manson involved in some sort of secret conspiracy just isn't m..."

I had to give it up too. I think it somehow glorifies Manson and his teachings. I did like David duchovny, however.


message 170: by Jenn (new)

Jenn I like to binge-watch shows that have complicated plots or lots of characters to keep track of. I just finished watching The Bridge, which I recorded last summer. I also have the whole last season of Justified to watch.


message 171: by Nancy, Co-Moderator (new)

Nancy Oakes (quinnsmom) | 10110 comments Mod
Georgia wrote: "I think it somehow glorifies Manson and his teachings"

That didn't bother me -- everyone knows the guy was insane. What bothered me were the liberties the writers took with Manson involved in some sort of conspiracy -- I mean, what? Manson is a topic sure to pique interest, but adding the conspiracy element? That was just too pandering for me.


message 172: by Portia (new)

Portia Justified is one of my all time favorites! Can you believe that Walton Goggins' character, Boyd Crowder, was supposed to die in the first episode but he did such a great job he became a main character. He and Timothy Olyphant have such wonderful chemistry. I loved watching their scenes. I especially loved when, in season two, he addressed his followers as "Flock"!


message 173: by Jenn (new)

Jenn I was glad to see him on a show again, after The Shield. I can't imagine wasting him on just one episode!


message 174: by Barbara (new)

Barbara (cinnabarb) | 9973 comments Jenn wrote: "I was glad to see him on a show again, after The Shield. I can't imagine wasting him on just one episode!"

Walton Goggins also has a guest arc on 'Sons of Anarchy' - as a transgender prostitute. He's very good and makes quite an attractive woman!


message 175: by Jenn (new)

Jenn I haven't seen that show yet, but I have been tempted to check it out on Netflix.


message 176: by Faith (new)

Faith | 136 comments I really have absolutely nothing to add to this conversation but had to chime in just to say how much I adore Walton Goggins. I loved Justified and can't imagine what it would have looked like without Boyd Crowder or what Boyd Crowder would have looked like if he was played by another actor.


message 177: by Bill (new)

Bill I thought Walter Goggins was great in Cowboys and Aliens and also really like his character in Justified. He really adds to the stories.


message 178: by Jaime (new)

Jaime (jalyns7611) | 80 comments Walter Goggins is an Amazing actor. His work as Venus on Sons of Anarchy was perfection.


message 179: by Wendy (new)

Wendy | 581 comments New Topic: Anyone hear about The Innocence Project? It is a bunch of lawyers and other legalize people, (and University students doing research), striving to free wrongly convicted men and women in the US. There are about a dozen cases they publicize. One case involved a man in prison for 35 years. It turned out witnesses misidentified him and law enforcement lied... He has just been released.


message 180: by Jan C (new)

Jan C (woeisme) | 39173 comments Wendy wrote: "New Topic: Anyone hear about The Innocence Project? It is a bunch of lawyers and other legalize people, (and University students doing research), striving to free wrongly convicted men and women in..."

Northwestern University's Medill School of Journalism (and possibly the law school) have been working on this for years. In one case they found the actual murderer living in Milwaukee


message 181: by Wendy (new)

Wendy | 581 comments I have heard "people" here in CA are trying to make the eye witness testimony accounts inadmissible in a court of law or at least unable to convict on just that testimony, especially with cold cases, retrials. I was listening to a memory expert and he said the more time passes, the more your brain "tricks" you or rewrites the memory.
I concur on this. In a childhood memory, I recall vividly a neighbor had a billy goat that attacked my older sister. The goat disappeared soon after. My sister and the goat owner insist it didn't happen. That I was attacked by a Rooster that ended up in a stew!
I have no funds to do so. I was seriously thinking of putting the organization in my Will if I ever had money.


message 182: by Wendy (last edited Jun 12, 2015 10:38PM) (new)

Wendy | 581 comments http://www.texasmonthly.com/daily-pos...

DA in Texas debarred because of misconduct regarding a recently released Innocent man


message 183: by Jan C (new)

Jan C (woeisme) | 39173 comments Good for Texas, or at least the Txas Bar.


message 184: by Wendy (new)

Wendy | 581 comments Article says he is 73. Comments say he needs to go to jail and pay compensation along with everyone else who was involved.


message 185: by Jan C (new)

Jan C (woeisme) | 39173 comments They need to investigate the other cases.


message 186: by Nancy, Co-Moderator (new)

Nancy Oakes (quinnsmom) | 10110 comments Mod
I am sooooo bummed! If I'm right, the author has just given away the entire show midway through the book I'm reading. Now why on earth would someone do that (if I'm right)?


message 187: by Barbara (new)

Barbara (cinnabarb) | 9973 comments Nancy wrote: "I am sooooo bummed! If I'm right, the author has just given away the entire show midway through the book I'm reading. Now why on earth would someone do that (if I'm right)?"

I'm just speculating.... maybe the writer's an amateur?

(or maybe this is a great writer that's able to fool readers!!)


message 188: by Wendy (new)

Wendy | 581 comments Jan C wrote: "They need to investigate the other cases."

I need to google that... it would be a nightmare situation. Can you imagine reexamining and retrying all those cases? We are talking about decades of cases.


message 189: by Wendy (new)

Wendy | 581 comments Nancy wrote: "I am sooooo bummed! If I'm right, the author has just given away the entire show midway through the book I'm reading. Now why on earth would someone do that (if I'm right)?"

Hurry up and finish, so we can find out if the author fooled you or not.


message 190: by Nancy, Co-Moderator (last edited Jul 05, 2015 04:22PM) (new)

Nancy Oakes (quinnsmom) | 10110 comments Mod
Wendy wrote: "Nancy wrote: "I am sooooo bummed! If I'm right, the author has just given away the entire show midway through the book I'm reading. Now why on earth would someone do that (if I'm right)?"

Hurry u..."


Wendy wrote: "Nancy wrote: "I am sooooo bummed! If I'm right, the author has just given away the entire show midway through the book I'm reading. Now why on earth would someone do that (if I'm right)?"

Hurry u..."



He did, but at the same time he didn't. Cryptic statement but that's how it is. At that juncture the plot sort of divided. I guessed a big twist but never saw the other one coming.


message 191: by Nancy, Co-Moderator (new)

Nancy Oakes (quinnsmom) | 10110 comments Mod
And it's that one I didn't see coming that knocked me off my can.


message 192: by Wendy (new)

Wendy | 581 comments : )


message 193: by Nancy, Co-Moderator (new)

Nancy Oakes (quinnsmom) | 10110 comments Mod
The sign of a good book. An ahhhh book.


message 194: by Nik (new)

Nik Krasno | 37 comments Hi All,

I've just started a new group here on GR called 'Enrichment & Oligarchs', in case anyone would want to take a look/share some thoughts/start a thread/donate a few bucks (if any of you happen to be oligarchs along with being readers/authors) and/or even offer a new start-up for sale or investment -:).
It's also about the literary aspect of enrichment/being rich/being poor/in the process of becoming rich and then poor again, i.e. what people write about becoming rich/being caught while becoming rich and science fiction section – good Samaritan becomes rich -:).
You can discuss Thomas Piketty's 'Capital in the 21-st century' there or that of Karl Marx in 19-th or any other fiction or non-fiction works.
You can wave debts to nice Greek guys, or demand their immediate repayment, or just share your attitude towards a current power struggle between Germany/France versus Greece, Russia v. Ukraine, US v. Iran, Messi v. Ronaldo or Floyd Mayweather v. Manny Pacquiao (thanks to internet for helping me spelling his surname).
The rules are simple: do whatever (responsibly), get rich, don't get caught.
If we have sufficient interest and enrollment, we'd ask William Gates, Carlos Slim, Mark Zuckerberg, Roman Abramovich and other fellas to read your books, write reviews, publish books, open virtual libraries, make google ads cheaper, facebook different, whatever. They probably won't, but we'll have fun, I hope -:).

Yours,

Nik


message 195: by B.J. (new)

B.J. Bourg (bjbourg) Here's random...

My wife told me the other day that she needed to buy more Wen shampoo and conditioner, because her giant bottle of the stuff was empty. She went on to explain how she didn't like having to buy the really big bottle because it cost so much, but she knew that she would save money over the long haul.

I replied, "I know what you mean! I hate dumping $75 at one time on a giant jug of weedkiller, even though I know it'll last two summers. One year, I bought a small bottle for like $30, and then had to buy another bottle the next month. In that one summer, I spent like $100 on weedkiller, when I could've spent only $75 and it would've lasted two years!"

When I'd finished talking, I noticed she was staring at me with this weird look on her face. I said, "What?"

She said, "Are you comparing my shampoo to weedkiller???"


message 196: by Nancy, Co-Moderator (new)

Nancy Oakes (quinnsmom) | 10110 comments Mod
B.J. wrote: "Here's random...

My wife told me the other day that she needed to buy more Wen shampoo and conditioner, because her giant bottle of the stuff was empty. She went on to explain how she didn't like ..."


That sounds like conversation at my house on any given day. Once we had a discussion on whether or not Mr. Clean was an albino.


message 197: by Marja (new)

Marja McGraw (marja1) | 114 comments I needed a chuckle this morning and you two (B.J. and Nancy) provided it. Thanks!


message 198: by Nancy, Co-Moderator (new)

Nancy Oakes (quinnsmom) | 10110 comments Mod
Marja wrote: "I needed a chuckle this morning and you two (B.J. and Nancy) provided it. Thanks!"

Any time. My house is listed on the national register of places where the stupidest discussions in the universe take place. I'm sure I'll be back with another one in the near future.


message 199: by B.J. (new)

B.J. Bourg (bjbourg) Marja,

Glad to be of help, lol.

bjb


message 200: by Marja (new)

Marja McGraw (marja1) | 114 comments I'll have to keep an eye on you two when I need a good laugh.


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