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message 1: by James (last edited Dec 23, 2023 08:17AM) (new)

James | 382 comments ✔️1- A book adapted to the big screen.

(So, does the "little" screen count?)
Fleishman Is in Trouble by Taffy Brodesser-Akner

2- A book about slaves in the U.S. OR
one about freed slaves.

3- A book by an author you've never heard of before.

4- A book you chose simply because of its cover.

✔️5- A book with a epistolary or diary format.
Ascension by Nicholas Binge

✔️6- A book set on a farm or a ranch.
The Magic Kingdom by Russell Banks

7- Told from the antagonist's point-of-view.

8- A book written in the second person.

✔️9-.A book recommended to you, whether you think you'll like it or not.- Could be a recommendation from a person, review you read, podcasts etc.
Unlikely Animals by Annie Hartnett

10- A debut novel or book

11-A book with a verb in the title.

✔️12- A trilogy. Part of a trilogy. (You don't have to read all 3)
Gwendy's Final Task by Stephen King (the finale of the trilogy consisting of Gwendy's Button Box / Gwendy's Magic Feather / Gwendy's Final Task)

✔️13- A book with an index
Cinema Speculation by Quentin Tarantino

✔️14- A comic novel or humorous book.
The Lemon by S.E. Boyd, narrated by Ari Fliakos

15- A book published in the 1950s.

✔️16- A book translated into English from another language.
The Lying Life of Adults by Elena Ferrante

17 - Book set in your current city or hometown

18 - Book based in a city you’d love to visit

✔️19 - Book written by OR about a current or past First Lady
The First Lady of World War II: Eleanor Roosevelt's Daring Journey to the Frontlines and Back by Shannon McKenna Schmidt

20 - Book with a character that lives with a disability (or impairment)

✔️21- Book about Witchcraft, Monsters of any kind (real, historical or fictional/magical)- or - Book with fantastical creatures (dragons, fairies, etc) or- A book with magic in it.
The Buried Giant by Kazuo Ishiguro (see other Ishiguro books at #46 and #82)

22 - Book about immigration or displacement

23 - Book about Nature/the environment

✔️24 - Speculative Fiction or Dystopian novel
Chain-Gang All-Stars by Nana Kwame Adjei-Brenyah

25 - Retelling of a Fairy Tale, fable, legend or ancient myth

26 - Book about motherhood (or parenthood) fiction or nonfiction

27 - Book from Bill Gate’s Favorite Book List: https://www.gatesnotes.com/Books

28 - Book about inequality (financial, racial, gender or other)

✔️29-- biography, memoir or autobiography
Brooklyn Crime Novel by Jonathan Lethem (autobiographical fiction?)


30 - Music, art, dance, theater, acting theme

✔️31- A book published in 2023
Age of Vice by Deepti Kapoor

32- A play

✔️33- Read at least 23 books in 2023
(Goodreads told me this today . . . )

✔️34- Read a fiction and nonfiction book on the same topic
Helltown: The Untold Story of Serial Murder on Cape Cod (this one book fits the prompt -- see my pocket review below)

35- A prize winning book that has a different prize then those listed in the other prompts.

36- A book about an animal(s) or nature fictional or nonfiction

✔️37- - The title has a word that begins with a B,N or C in it.
Book Nook Cafe :)
The Curator by Owen King

✔️38- A book about or set in a country you don't live in.
Age of Vice by Deepti Kapoor

✔️39- A book published before you were born
The Hound of the Baskervilles by Arthur Conan Doyle The Hound of the Baskervilles by Arthur Conan Doyle Arthur Conan Doyle
(I suppose this could have gone under #36 "A book about an animal . . . " or #38, or #90, or #91, for that matter, but I'll just drop it here for now and see how the prompts fill in for me as the year goes along!)

40- A Young Adult book- YA- Fiction or nonfiction

41- Book with a name in the title

42-A classic (modern or older)

✔️43- A National Book Award
The Rabbit Hutch by Tess Gunty (2022 National Book Award)

✔️44- Pulitzer Prize winning book
Empire Falls by Richard Russo (2002 Pulitzer Prize for Fiction)

✔️45- A Booker winner
Shuggie Bain by Douglas Stuart (2020 Booker Prize)


✔️46- A book written by a Nobel prize winner- any topic or genre
An Artist of the Floating World by Kazuo Ishiguro (Nobel Prize for Literature, 2017) (also see books by Ishiguro at #21 and #82)

47-A book written about an author, novel, biography, criticism.

48- Contains the word "Wife" or "Woman" in the title.

✔️49-A book about Native Americans OR a book written by a Native American.
Shutter by Ramona Emerson

✔️50- A book about a Real Life Person you admire
The First Lady of World War II: Eleanor Roosevelt's Daring Journey to the Frontlines and Back

51-A book about a Royal Person--any nation, any time period.

52-A book set in Asia. Fiction or nonfiction

53-A book set in Africa. Fiction or nonfiction

✔️54-A book set in Australia/Oceania. -Fiction or nonfiction
The First Lady of World War II: Eleanor Roosevelt's Daring Journey to the Frontlines and Back

55- A book set in South America. - Fiction or nonfiction

✔️56-A book about Asians in the US. or a book written by an Asian American-- fiction or nonfiction
Yellowface by R.F. Kuang (also see #97)

57-A Novel related to Classics, such as a character from Moby Dick with his/her own story/book.

✔️58-Novela
Small Things Like These by Claire Keegan

✔️59- Book over 500 pages
Age of Vice by Deepti Kapoor

60- A book by Agatha Christie

✔️61- One word title
Severance by Ling Ma

62- book on a modern-day problem/issue? (ie global warming, gun violence, etc.) - Fiction or nonfiction

✔️63- A book you knew nothing about beforehand. However something caught your attention. Cover, blurb, title. Tell us why.
Gone to the Wolves by John Wray by John Wray

✔️64- a book out of your comfort zone, not a genre you normally read
Someone Else's Shoes by Jojo Moyes

✔️65- Concerning food or containing recipes
Extra Virginity: The Sublime and Scandalous World of Olive Oil by Tom Mueller

66- A book where weather is involved. Fiction or nonfiction

✔️67- A book having to do with travel- fiction or nonfiction
The First Lady of World War II: Eleanor Roosevelt's Daring Journey to the Frontlines and Back

✔️68- Wild Card ! Any book you feel like recommending to fellow readers.
Now Is Not the Time to Panic by Kevin Wilson

69- A health, diet, exercise, fitness or wellness book

70- About business, the economy or economics. (Personal, home or business)

✔️71- related to science
What's Gotten Into You: The Story of Your Body's Atoms, from the Big Bang Through Last Night's Dinner by Dan Levitt

✔️72- Book about racism
Chain-Gang All-Stars by Nana Kwame Adjei-Brenyah

✔️73- LGBTQ+ character fiction or nonfiction
We Had to Remove This Post by Hanna Bervoets (also #84)

✔️74- Read more books than you did in 2022
(26 more than last year as of 12/20/2024 - and no doubt that was bolstered by this challenge and to all of you who post here in Book Nook Cafe - my appreciation to you all!)

75- Book you started but never finished

76- Book on a banned book list

77- Education or teaching profession or has teacher or student in story F or NF

78- book with maps or photographs in it

79- set in a country you have never visited

80- set around a holiday

✔️81- books about trauma or mental health issue- fiction or nonfiction
Shy by Max Porter

✔️82 Book with a 4 word title
Never Let Me Go by Kazuo Ishiguro (see other Ishiguro books at #21 and #46)

83- Famous author you've never read

✔️84-A book whose author's last name starts with B,N or C
We Had to Remove This Post by Hanna Bervoets (also #73)

85- graphic novel

✔️86- WWI or WWII or any war - novel or nonfiction
The First Lady of World War II: Eleanor Roosevelt's Daring Journey to the Frontlines and Back

87- Book about or set in, the state or country you live in

✔️88- an author who has published at least 5 books
Somebody's Fool by Richard Russo

✔️89- Author is under 35 years old
The Immortalists by Chloe Benjamin (born 1989)

✔️90- Thriller or mystery
None of This Is True by Lisa Jewell

✔️91- Crime - fiction or nonfiction
Small Mercies by Dennis Lehane

✔️92 - History
The Gangs of New York by Herbert Asbury

93- Disease - fiction or nonfiction

94- legal profession - fiction or nonfiction

95 - short story or essays

96- a leader whose country you don't live in (living or dead)

✔️97- a color in the title
Yellowface by R.F. Kuang (also see #56)

✔️98- historical fiction
North Woods by Daniel Mason

99- spiritual or inspirational

100- Romance

101- Bio or other NF about an Artist (paints, drawing, sculpture, i.e.), Author (poetry, books (F or NF) or an Architect.

102- Book (F or NF) written before the 1800s.

✔️103- Book (F or NF) about Religion or Atheism.
Kaikeyi by Vaishnavi Patel

104- A book published in the 1960s.

105- A sport related book - fiction or non fiction


message 2: by Lindsey (new)

Lindsey | 991 comments Hey James! Welcome to the challenge!


message 3: by James (new)

James | 382 comments Lindsey wrote: "Hey James! Welcome to the challenge!"

Thank you Lindsey -- I was just surfing around Goodreads, saw this group, saw this challenge and thought it might be fun.


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Lindsey | 991 comments It’s a great group! I joined last summer and have enjoyed being here. There are lots of great discussion threads if you’re interested.
Looking forward to seeing what you choose for the challenge!


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John | 1943 comments Hi, James!

There's nothing competitive about this, as much as we're interested in your thoughts on each book you complete. Looking forward to your thoughts!


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James | 382 comments John wrote: "Hi, James!

There's nothing competitive about this, as much as we're interested in your thoughts on each book you complete. Looking forward to your thoughts!"


Hi John, and thanks. I got the vibe that this was fun, not at all competitive, and maybe a spark to try some things I might not normally read. Looking forward to learning about others' choices and adding titles that I've read over the year.


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James | 382 comments Hello all -- I was looking at the lists that the folks here have been compiling and got more than a couple of titles to check out, thank you! I've started by adding a few things that I've read this month to my list.
#1. A book adapted to the big screen.
Fleishman Is in Trouble by Taffy Brodesser-Akner (if the "little" screen counts).
Very well written, clever, interesting narrative view, but the main characters were very tough to like -- not that one has to.

#9 A book recommended to you . . .
Unlikely Animals by Annie Hartnett
I really loved this book. I thought it was such a well-written, cleverly crafted, imaginative story of the people of Everton, New Hampshire -- the Starling family, the fifth graders, the former residents, and all of the animals, past, present, real and imagined. Evocative of John Irving in some very good ways, but Hartnett's voice is rich and unique.

#13 Book with an index
Cinema Speculation by Quentin Tarantino
I am a sucker for Tarantino films, and there was no surprise for me at all reading about the films from the 1960's, '70's and '80's that were a big part of his "film school" -- films and actors that I also grew up on and really responded to. Yes, those films. Remember, "one person's trash . . . "

#68 Wild Card ! Any book you feel like recommending . . .
Now Is Not the Time to Panic by Kevin Wilson
"The edge is a shantytown filled with gold seekers. We are fugitives, and the law is skinny with hunger for us." Two teenagers in a small town in the mid-south 1990's create something of a local, and then nation wide -- event? -- panic? -- with home-made posters. I also recommend two of Wilson's other novels, "Nothing To See Here" and "The Family Fang".

More to come, and happy to be here!


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Alias Reader (aliasreader) | 29366 comments James wrote: "#1. A book adapted to the big screen.
Fleishman Is in Trouble by Taffy Brodesser-Akner (if the "little" screen counts).
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Hi, James ! Welcome to Book Nook Cafe. Thank you for joining our group and participating in the challenge. We look forward to getting to know you.

As to big or small screen, either is fine. This is an easygoing challenge. The goal is to expand our reading horizons and have fun.


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madrano | 23651 comments James wrote: "✔️1- A book adapted to the big screen.

(So, does the "little" screen count?)
Fleishman Is in Trouble by Taffy Brodesser-Akner..."



I definitely count the "little" screen. A book "translated" into video is what matters.

Your "wild card" choice sounds quite well written, James. I'll have to check it out.

We look forward to seeing how you fill out the challenge. You already have the true sense--adventures in reading!


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John | 1943 comments James wrote: "Hello all -- I was looking at the lists that the folks here have been compiling and got more than a couple of titles to check out, thank you! I've started by adding a few things that I've read this..."

VERY nice commentary - exactly what I'd hoped to see!


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Michele | 629 comments James wrote: "Hello all -- I was looking at the lists that the folks here have been compiling and got more than a couple of titles to check out, thank you! I've started by adding a few things that I've read this..."

I read The Family Fang and Nothing to See Here. But I didn't remember the author's name. That's why I keep my list on Goodreads so I can go back and see all that I've forgotten. Welcome belatedly to the fun. You have books that are different from the ones I've seen here so far, so will be a #1 Excellent addition to the group.
Michele


message 12: by James (last edited Feb 01, 2023 06:13PM) (new)

James | 382 comments Thanks to Michele, John, madrano, and everyone for the encouragement! I'd like to mention this book that I just finished -- it could (and may yet) go under some other categories (Debut novel, thriller/mystery, not heard of before . . . ) but this is probably the most apt:

#49-A book about Native Americans OR a book written by a Native American.
Shutter by Ramona Emerson
A Dine' crime-scene photographer in New Mexico sees the dead . . . and the dead see her. A story of mystery and horror, as well as a reflection on family and culture, this is an unflinching view through a sharp and focused lens. Nominated (at this writing) for both the 2023 PEN/Hemingway Award for Debut Novel and the 2023 PEN Open Book Award. Emerson, a writer and filmmaker, is also a former police department photographer.


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John | 1943 comments Wow! Sounds exactly what I'd like!


message 14: by Michele (new)

Michele | 629 comments You sold me, Hames. I just bought Shutter. Thanks


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madrano | 23651 comments Wow, James, thank you for that recap. I have had it on my Wish List at the library but couldn't recall what it was about. I just checked & it's in, so i borrowed it. Thanks for the push, so to speak, James!


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Bella (Kiki) (coloraturabella) | 5361 comments Sounds good, James. thanks!


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madrano | 23651 comments James wrote: "Thanks to Michele, John, madrano, and everyone for the encouragement! I'd like to mention this book that I just finished -- it could (and may yet) go under some other categories (Debut novel, thril..."

James, thank you for this motivating post about Ramona Emerson's Shutter. After reading your comments, i got a copy, which i liked it very much. The underlying camera parts, about the way cameras became part of Rita's life, were delightful. Thank you again for the "push".


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James | 382 comments I am glad you liked it, madrano -- I thought the chapter titles were clever and added to the enjoyment as well.


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madrano | 23651 comments Agree! It was also fun for me when i recognized some and recall using them, such as the Instamatics.


message 20: by James (last edited Feb 17, 2023 03:18PM) (new)

James | 382 comments ✔️34- Read a fiction and nonfiction book on the same topic
Helltown: The Untold Story of Serial Murder on Cape Cod (this one book fits the prompt, I think)

The story of psychotic killer Tony Costa is gruesome in the strongest sense of the word, and those who know the area where the events of these crimes took place in the late 1960's, or lived during that time might nod along with some of the descriptions, but I am sorry that author Casey Sherman chose to write this book in the manner that he has. Sherman has said that he was inspired by authors Kurt Vonnegut and Norman Mailer (who both lived on Cape Cod where and when Costa was committing his heinous crimes, and who both wrote about the murders) to tell the story "in a new way". The book is meticulously researched, but for all the citations of trial transcripts, police and autopsy reports, newspaper accounts, recorded and in-person interviews, and even Costa's own unpublished manuscript, Sherman just loses me when he relates "conversations" between real people that he -- Sherman -- simply invents. Sherman has said that he learned from a co-author of one of his earlier books, the novelist James Patterson, that building a strong narrative helps to supplement the telling of the facts. However, as put in to practice in this book, the imagined dialogue and invented scenarios ruined the telling of the story of these horrific tragedies.


message 21: by Bella (Kiki) (last edited Feb 17, 2023 03:36PM) (new)

Bella (Kiki) (coloraturabella) | 5361 comments James wrote: "✔️34- Read a fiction and nonfiction book on the same topic
Helltown: The Untold Story of Serial Murder on Cape Cod (this one book fits the prompt, I think)

The story of psychotic k..."


I would not enjoy having the invented things, either, James. Congratulations on fulfilling another prompt.


message 22: by Lindsey (new)

Lindsey | 991 comments James wrote: "✔️34- Read a fiction and nonfiction book on the same topic
Helltown: The Untold Story of Serial Murder on Cape Cod (this one book fits the prompt, I think)

The story of psychotic k..."


I haven't heard of these murders or this book, but it all sounds intriguing. I'm curious how the book can be classified as non-fiction when he's made up entire conversations?


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James | 382 comments Lindsey wrote: "I haven't heard of these murders or this book, but it all sounds intriguing. I'm curious how the book can be classified as non-fiction when he's made up entire conversations? "

My thoughts exactly, Lindsey.


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James | 382 comments Kiki (Formerly TheGirlByTheSeaOfCortez) wrote: "I would not enjoy having the invented things, either, James. Congratulations on fulfilling another prompt."

Thank you, Kiki -- I did not want that book to fill that prompt, but I could not bring myself to put it under "Crime - fiction or nonfiction".


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Bella (Kiki) (coloraturabella) | 5361 comments James wrote: "Kiki (Formerly TheGirlByTheSeaOfCortez) wrote: "I would not enjoy having the invented things, either, James. Congratulations on fulfilling another prompt."

Thank you, Kiki -- I did not want that b..."


I can well understand that, James. To me, non-fiction does not include made-up conversations, even if those conversations do accurately reflect what actually happened.


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Michele | 629 comments I just saw this thread and I was cheering in my armchair.. Putting words in the mouth of a real historical person without sources is also a pet peeve of mine.

My friend and I have had some small success in our local book club. After suffering through The First Mrs Einstein, in which the author makes up entire conversations between the parties as if she had been present, leaving many false impressions, we now monitor books for authenticity before putting them on the list. Our guiding principle is finding the best book possible on the topic our members are interested in.

The jury is still out on whether we are elevating their understanding or just annoying them.

Michele


message 27: by Bella (Kiki) (last edited Feb 18, 2023 08:53AM) (new)

Bella (Kiki) (coloraturabella) | 5361 comments Michele wrote: "I just saw this thread and I was cheering in my armchair.. Putting words in the mouth of a real historical person without sources is also a pet peeve of mine.

My friend and I have had some small ..."


The Books of Jacob doesn't contain much dialogue, but it does contain some, spoken by real, historical persons. However, the book is marketed as historical fiction, not as non-fiction. This, I think, is okay. In fact, I wish the author had included more dialogue because the book is very dense and time-consuming to read, and I am a fast reader.


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James | 382 comments Kiki (Formerly TheGirlByTheSeaOfCortez) wrote: "The Books of Jacob doesn't contain much dialogue, but it does contain some, spoken by real, historical persons. However, the book is marketed as historical fiction, not as non-fiction . . ."

Exactly -- and I have no problem with work that identifies as historical fiction or alternate history, there is no pretense of "this really happened", but rather, "this could have happened" or "this might have happened" or "what if this had happened?" (for humor, see James Thurber, for instance, "If Grant Had Been Drinking at Appomattox").

When creating fiction based on real events that really impacted and devastated families or communities, I would think that it is important for authors to approach the fictionalization of those events from a place of deep respect and humility. but I suppose that the further away in time from the events or people depicted somehow seems to allow authors to take freer license.

I understand that all "history" is interpretive, but if a writer is purporting a work to be "history" or nonfiction to me, they had best cite their sources.


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Bella (Kiki) (coloraturabella) | 5361 comments James wrote: "Kiki (Formerly TheGirlByTheSeaOfCortez) wrote: "The Books of Jacob doesn't contain much dialogue, but it does contain some, spoken by real, historical persons. However, the book is marketed as hist..."

I agree with all of that, James.


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Alias Reader (aliasreader) | 29366 comments James wrote: "✔️34- Read a fiction and nonfiction book on the same topic
Helltown: The Untold Story of Serial Murder on Cape Cod (this one book fits the prompt, I think)

The story of psychotic k..."


Sorry to hear the book didn't meet your expectations. It sounds like it in the narrative non fiction genre. I do enjoy that.
https://www.masterclass.com/articles/...

Anyway, I passed the title on to a friend when you first posted. She likes to read true crime books.


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Alias Reader (aliasreader) | 29366 comments Lindsey wroteI haven't heard of these murders or this book, but it all sounds intriguing. I'm curious how the book can be classified as non-fiction when he's made up entire conversations?."

I think it is in the narrative non fiction genre.

I actually enjoy that genre but it's not for everyone.


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madrano | 23651 comments James wrote: "✔️34- Read a fiction and nonfiction book on the same topic
Helltown: The Untold Story of Serial Murder on Cape Cod (this one book fits the prompt, I think)..."


I love your creativity in fulfilling this prompt, James!

Everything you've mentioned about Sherman's telling is a problem for me when i read NF. You may NOT make up conversations! As you note, to do this with humans who having experienced the events, who can now see this fakery of imagined conversation,s is unconscionable. What nerve. And THEN to blame/credit other authors as your inspiration? Shameful.


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madrano | 23651 comments Alias Reader wrote: "Sorry to hear the book didn't meet your expectations. It sounds like it in the narrative non fiction genre. I do enjoy that.
https://www.masterclass.com/articles/......"


Good point, Alias. And i have liked several of those listed in the article. Yet, i am not in favor of creating conversations. Can it be done, and done well? Probably but too often it isn't and we are left with one author giving us his own version of events in what is called nonfiction. I cannot imagine my own words created by someone else to sell his book.


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madrano | 23651 comments James wrote: " (for humor, see James Thurber, for instance, "If Grant Had Been Drinking at Appomattox")...."

I'm a Big Fan of Thurber's but hadn't read this one. Thank for the laugh, James! For others interested in reading the Very Short Story--

https://emergingcivilwar.com/2017/10/...


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Alias Reader (aliasreader) | 29366 comments madrano wrote: "Good point, Alias. And i have liked several of those listed in the article. Yet, i am not in favor of creating conversations. Can it be done, and done well? Probably but too often it isn't and we are left with one author giving us his own version of events in what is called nonfiction. I cannot imagine my own words created by someone else to sell his book.
..."


I have a similar issue with historical fiction. I worry that I'll remember some fictional element and thing it's a fact. I know for many historical fiction can bring a topic to life. Some find straight non fiction dry. I'm not in that camp. I generally gravitate to non fiction in the books I read.


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Bella (Kiki) (coloraturabella) | 5361 comments Alias Reader wrote: "madrano wrote: "Good point, Alias. And i have liked several of those listed in the article. Yet, i am not in favor of creating conversations. Can it be done, and done well? Probably but too often i..."

I'm the opposite. I'm not a fan of history, but I do love historical fiction if it's well-written. Often, though, I'll read the historical background of something before beginning a book of historical fiction.


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Michele | 629 comments I’ve really enjoyed reading the discussion of the problems inherent in historical fiction. The “truth” of historical fiction has been a topic of many months in my local book club, and I wish I had your input before I began tinkering with the book list!!
I like to read alternative history, where the author frankly reimagines the motives of historical figures while respecting the true events. Authors like Hillary Mantel, Stephen King, Gregory Maguire and Sharon Kay Pendeman
write superb history and respect the reader by being transparent while tweaking the popular wisdom. Eg, Richard III might not have mudered the princes in the Tower, or who really killed JFK? These authors make up conversations to demonstrate how the fact pattern can support different conclusions. In this situation, I am not always arguing with the author, and I feel in on the joke, so to say.
Michele


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Bella (Kiki) (coloraturabella) | 5361 comments Michele wrote: "I’ve really enjoyed reading the discussion of the problems inherent in historical fiction. The “truth” of historical fiction has been a topic of many months in my local book club, and I wish I had ..."

I agree with you on those points, Michele.


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Alias Reader (aliasreader) | 29366 comments Michele wrote: "I like to read alternative history, where the author frankly reimagines the motives of historical figures while respecting the true events. .."

It does make one wonder how the course of history changes with events. As you noted JFK's assassination. What might have been if he wasn't killed?

On the other hand, when I read the terrific book on FDR titled, The Defining Moment: FDR's Hundred Days and the Triumph of Hope the book gave me a sense of destiny. That this is the way things had to be.

There is one part when a would be assassin, attempted to kill FDR. FDR was giving an impromptu speech in the back of of an open car. The shooter was standing on something like stadium step bench. Just as he was about to shoot, someone stood up and the bench moved and he missed FDR. He did shoot a few others and killed the Mayor of Chicago.

Destiny or luck? I guess it's up to the individual and how they view life. But it does make one wonder what might have been.


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madrano | 23651 comments Alias Reader wrote: "I have a similar issue with historical fiction. I worry that I'll remember some fictional element and thing it's a fact. I know for many historical fiction can bring a topic to life. Some find straight non fiction dry. I'm not in that camp. I generally gravitate to non fiction in the books I read.."

Alias, this is well put and true of me, too. I'm apt to remember (And, worse, repeat to others) a fictional bit and forget the "real" historical part. This is why, while i appreciate historical fiction, i try to already know the topic before reading such a novel. If i know what, for instance, Amelia Earhart really said & did, i am okay with a fictional account of her life and times. Otherwise, i'm wondering and wondering.

This is akin to what Kiki wrote. I'll go further & say that if the historical fiction author explains herself at the end, telling generally what s/he made up & what was genuine or previously believed, i am fine with that. Mostly, though, i just love reading well-composed and written history.


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madrano | 23651 comments Michele wrote: "Eg, Richard III might not have mudered the princes in the Tower, or who really killed JFK? These authors make up conversations to demonstrate how the fact pattern can support different conclusions. In this situation, I am not always arguing with the author, and I feel in on the joke, so to say ..."

Perfectly put, Michele. If i know going in the author is messing around with historic characters, i'm fine with their dallies. But in a purported history or a novel, which portrays itself as "the real" so & so, i object!

I also like the play Alias mentions. A wondering of history is alright but i want to know going in what is ahead. The totally awful If Kennedy Lived: The First and Second Terms of President John F. Kennedy: An Alternate History is the absolute worst. Alternative history, yes, but not even well imagined. And i think this is why i'm not a big fan of this genre, which isn't to say i don't like it, just that someone like Jeff Greenfield shouldn't be writing it!

Oops, i believe i went off on a bit of a rant there.


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Alias Reader (aliasreader) | 29366 comments madrano wrote:
I'm apt to remember (And, worse, repeat to others) a fictional bit and forget the "real" historical part. ."


Yes, You hit the nail on the head !


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James | 382 comments ✔️39- A book published before you were born:
The Hound of the Baskervilles by Arthur Conan Doyle (1902)

First, I admit that I am not a proper Holmesian, but I have always been thrilled by the Holmes mysteries. There’s also something about Sherlock Holmes that inspires creativity in ways that few other fictional characters ever have. Stories, novels, films, television series, radio plays -- there seems to be no end to the ways that Arthur Conan Doyle’s consulting detective and his milieu inspire new works. One such that I read recently was found in Neil Gaiman’s anthology Trigger Warning: Short Fictions and Disturbances (2015), titled The Case of Death and Honey (2011). The story has the now-elderly detective visiting his dying brother Mycroft, who challenges Sherlock to solve “the ultimate crime . . . Death!” I won’t say much more about this story other than it is terrific, and in my view rivals Gaiman’s earlier Holmes/Lovecraft pastiche, A Study in Emerald .*

After thoroughly enjoying The Case of Death and Honey, I was moved to go back and re-read some of the actual Canon, beginning with the first anthology of short stories, The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes(1891-1892) and then turning to the first three novels, A Study in Scarlet(1887), The Sign of the Four(1890), and The Hound of the Baskervilles (1902). Baskervilles was written some 8 years after Holmes’ apparent death in the 1893 story The Final Problem, but Doyle sets the novel in 1891, two years prior to Moriarty and Holmes’ putative plunge over the Reichenbach Falls, and its popularity paved the way for the full-time return of the detective, re-beginning with the story The Adventure of the Empty House (1903).

All that is leading up to say that re-reading The Hound of the Baskervilles was a such a pleasure for me, and it brought back some of the thrills that I felt when I first read this book as a youth -- a long time ago.

* A Study in Emerald is available to be read in full online, courtesy of the author, as it might have been published in the pages of a (fictional) late Edwardian newspaper, The Star of Albion at https://www.neilgaiman.com/mediafiles... (and the advertisements are full of easter eggs!) I should mention that some of Gaiman’s language is drawn directly from Doyle, including terms such as “street Arabs”, and he also uses Doyle’s casually superior sensibility of white male Victorian Britain in phrases such as “The gods and men of Afghanistan are savages, unwilling to be ruled from Whitehall or from Berlin or even from Moscow . . .”


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Alias Reader (aliasreader) | 29366 comments Excellent review, James !

Congratulations on checking off another prompt.


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madrano | 23651 comments James wrote: "✔️39- A book published before you were born:
The Hound of the Baskervilles by Arthur Conan Doyle (1902)

First, I admit that I am not a proper Holmesian, but I have ..."


Terrific post, James. I'm no Holmesian, indeed, i become quite disappointed because i never have a sense of where the case is headed. What do i know of tobacco blends. Ha!

Your comments are delightful because i enjoy reading the paths folks take to come to certain books/authors. Yours is a pleasure. I suspect i've read a couple of the books twice, just because i forgot i'd read it previously. And i fared no better by that rereading, of course.

I appreciate the info & link to Emerald. What a pleasure to seek the eggs. Also, language is often a possible issue as one reads older books. While i object mentally, i fully understand that even wise people used language foolishly when depicting characters. How well i recall being stunned by Wilkie Collins's descriptions of Italians, of all people. This is how we learn, however. From that i learned there was quite a hostility toward Italians in the mid-to late 19th century. Subsequently i saw the foul usage in several other classics. And there we go!

Congrats on completing the prompt, James.


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Bella (Kiki) (coloraturabella) | 5361 comments Congratulations, James!


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Michele | 629 comments James

Add me to the list of people who are enjoying your posts. As a young adult, I went through all of Sherlock Holmes and Agatha Christie. Then I saw all the movies & tv adaptations over the years.

Of the true adaptations, I guess my fave Sherlock would be Jeremy Brett. Of the new Sherlock stories, I dont like Benedict Cumberbatch, but I love Robert Downey Jr. Also didnt care for Johnnie Lee _______ and Lucy Liu as Watson (tv series). Best Watson ever is the one I call “action Watson” because I cant remember his name. He’s with R Downey, Jr.

Keep it coming, James!! I love those puzzle mysteries!
Michele


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madrano | 23651 comments Michele wrote: "I dont like Benedict Cumberbatch, but I love Robert Downey Jr. Also didnt care for Johnnie Lee _______ and Lucy Liu as Watson (tv series).."

I think i agree with you, Michele, about the best being Brett. And i don't care for Cumberbatch but liked Freeman as Watson.

From there, we take divergent paths. I am not a fan of Downey at all, too much, too much. Jude Law was his Watson and i kinda liked him in the role. While initially i was put off by Johnnie Lee Miller's Holmes, i ended up liking him better and continued with the series, possibly because i liked Liu's Watson and the premise. (At times, that is.)

My first Holmes was Basil Rathbone and i was satisfied with him & Nigel Bruce. Here is a site which names all the motion picture series. https://www.imdb.com/list/ls066973103/ Seeing #49, Buster Keaton as Holmes, Jr., might be fun but technically, he's not Holmes, as i understand the description.

I couldn't find one that lists the TV Holmes, other than what we've already mentioned. As for books, i think Hounds is my favorite, mostly for the setting.


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Bella (Kiki) (coloraturabella) | 5361 comments I like Lucy Liu, but not as Watson. For me, who spent an entire summer reading all the Holmes stories and loving them, Watson has to be a man.

I'm a classic film fan, and I love Basil Rathbone.


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madrano | 23651 comments Watson is a fairly thankless role, imo. But necessary.


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