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2022 Read All the Books: On Cloud Nine
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Jul 11, 2022 12:02PM

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Goal: 7
Read: 7 complete!
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Glad to get Doctor Who out of the way. I k..."
Congrats on your clearing that hurddle.


A fantastic retelling of the Spanish Reconquista. This book has an epic wide-ranging sweep to bring the tale to life. It changes the details of the religions involved to avoid any number of conundrums that could have been the result of a more accurate portrayal but keeps the relevant issues intact. The alternatives are enough to keep everything fresh without seeming dusty in the retelling, the people are alive and vibrant. All in all a Masterful retelling.

* I promise this was a typo, but it's so deliciously perfect that I have to leave it!
(I'm trying to find a couple of short ones to keep alive in this challenge, this ain't it.)
Oh, sorry, it's the Nantucket series by S.M. Stirling, starting with Island in the Sea of Time.
edit: "keep alive in this challenge" was probably a mix of "stay alive" and "keep this challenge alive" XD

not to mention that they're in consecutive months...
and there are authors who deserve to be on the shelf that aren't

(Something like this would be a buddy read now.)

Well if it makes you feel better at least they didn't put the Dies the Fire companion series in the Group Reads. I think there are seven or eight of those...if it is finished. It wasn't the last time I looked.

True. Although I for one would consider the Nantucket series the better of the two. Which is pretty easy for me to do since I have read them already.
I have noticed that it seems the group has a love for some authors over others. Haven't decided if this is a bad thing or not. Well mostly at any rate.

it seems to me more of a new and shiny over old and time tested in most cases. I don't want to pay the new prices for books, so I miss out on a lot of the Monthly reads

I wasn't here then and therefore have no answers, but I think I remember seeing somebody comment in more recent years that it was some sort of experiment to try reading a series as a group, but it didn't get a lot of participation so they never did it again? If I'm even remembering that correctly, it seems like an odd series to pick for that experiment.
I read the series in 2017 and it wasn't horrible, but it wasn't great either. I thought it grew increasingly tedious as it went on. I might have still read book 2 even if it hadn't been on the shelf, but I don't think I would have gone on to book 3. I hadn't read a lot of (not really a spoiler, just the subgenre) (view spoiler) stories before, so book 1 had the newness factor going for it.

I wanted to be able to cross one of the past years off my list & picked 2008 since I only had 3 left from it: Storm Front, Neuromancer & The Anubis Gates. I got Storm Front from my library and it's a perfect distracted read today. All of the references in the group read thread are from 13 years ago & it's very amusing to see the difference in style.

I've also seen something about it, probably back when I was populating the mod shelf or maybe editing the spreadsheet. That's why I knew it was an extra series read, but I don't know (or remember) anything more about it.
I probably won't be reading it very soon, but I'm glad it's on audio since it's so long!


it seems to me more of a new and shiny over old and time ..."
LOL, I miss out on all of them. I don't have the funds to keep up with them and I don't read fast enough to keep up with them. I do like that they are on the Bookshelf so that I can get to them when I can.

I am excited about that one. I have seen both the movies and while they don't really make a good movie, the passing being very slow as a book it can take time to do that sort of thing. And while I don't think that they are great movies, as Sci-Fi it is amazing. Very deep. Although admittedly I thought the author was Russian since the first movie was. I hope that isn't the last surprise that the book throws my way.

I wasn't here then and therefore ha..."
I started with the Dies the Fire Series, the Nantucket Series is somewhat of a spin-off of that. They can be done as stand-alones, but one does support the other. So I came at it from a different aspect. I found the Nantucket just long enough to keep my full attention, but the Dies the Fire just kept going and didn't seem to have any real ending in sight. I was already burned by that sort of thing with the Wheel of Time series so I just set it aside and never picked it up again.

Congrats.


I can relate. Sometimes picking the books to read for challenges can be as much fun as reading them.


While they are in no way similar, the only thing I can compare this to is the Lord of the Rings. It is epic with a wide-ranging scope and deep world-building. The characters are well done and the story, while broken up by which character is the focus of the moment, is well plotted and leads to quite a fulfilling resolution of the tale. While this book is long and does wrap up this particular thread of the story it is clear that it is not the end and as there are a number of books that come after this one that should come as no surprise.
I was glad to finally get a chance to read this through instead of reading a bit and setting it aside for something less weighty. I am looking forward to the next book in the series.

I don't even have another 15 on my TBR pile to make 30 :( as there's only 9 that I own but haven't read and I'm saving all but one of those for next year's challenge


The more I read Philip K Dick, the more it seems I don't like reading Philip K Dick. Nuff said.


Generally, I am the type of reader that hates reading a series out of order. That said that Hainish Cycle doesn't seem to be a series that needs or maybe even should be read in such a fashion. Each one I have read doesn't really lead to any linkage to other books in the series and is a completely stand-alone story on its own. I do have some quibbles with some of the ones I have read and The Dispossessed is included in that list, but they are such small things that in the larger framework of enjoyment of the story being spun they don't even come to the fore. This was another great addition to the series and I am looking forward to reading more of the series.


Another good sci-fi entry by Wells. While not as nail-bitting as War of the Worlds, this is a good solid look at a possible time travel future. A lean telling of the tale with little wasted effort or wordage. Due to the age of the story, it might not be for everyone but it is a master class in how to tell a story without getting sidetracked down paths that have little or nothing to do with the actual story.


The more I read Philip K Dick, the more it seems I don't like reading Philip K Dick. Nuff said."
High Castle was my least favorite of the four Philip Dick books on the shelf.


On my brother's birthday we had a game night at his place, and one of his friends and her girlfriend joined us in discussing Dick. We had lots of fun.
In case anyone is wondering, my favorite Dick is Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? :) I still have one Dick on the shelf I haven't tried yet, although I have seen the movie.


yeah, but there are people out there that love his stuff. Which isn't all bad, since someone in Hollywood seems bound and determined to make everything he ever wrote into a movie. Generally, a movie that I find to be better than the books. LOL.

Which one is your favorite?

The stories usually held my interest pretty well, but I inevitably ended up annoyed by the end. I sometimes felt like he just wrote whatever he thought seemed entertaining at the moment, but couldn't be bothered with the effort to plot things out and make sure everything would make sense in the end. On the other hand, two of his books provoked me to write some pretty long reviews, and I particularly remember going off on a crazy tangent trying to make Ubik make sense in my head. I don’t do that with a book that just leaves me bored and apathetic, so I figure they get bonus points for that.

I'll update message 154 to reflect what I've finished since July, and what's next. :)

I'll update message 154 to reflect what I've finished since July,..."
I am more or less just starting this book and am still uncertain what I think of it. What were your thoughts on it?
Congratulations on finishing the challenge you set yourself.

To add briefly to Allison't comment, it takes a while to show its hand, and once it does, it has some interesting food for thought. Also has some really cool battles. I hear someone sharpening an axe, so I'll stop there.


thanks- I am cyclic with my reading genre preferences and somewhat seasonal. Winter is a great time for fantasy/science fiction binges for me.

Sorrowland
The Raven Tower
Compass Rose
Klara and the Sun
Solaris
The Songs of Distant Earth
Howl’s Moving Castle
The Gate to Women's Country
The Witch's Heart
Terra Nullius
The Book Eaters
My favorites were Solaris and Terra Nullius.
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