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I’ve googled and it is! I never knew that
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That sounds so cool !
I remember at end months of 2019 ( before coronavirus), I was at the airport. This girl was traveling alone (she was young, I think around 18-19 ?) and her family requested us to let her travel with us until we reach the country, as this was her first time traveling alone.
Mind you, this girl is complete stranger and so is her family and the only thing common is that we are from the same state.
So, she stayed with us. We found out that she is going for 10 days vacation and staying with her sister and stuff. Like she was with us the whole plane ride and then we parted.
We have so much different lives, isn’t it a crazy coincidence we were together with her ? What if her family had asked someone else ?
Like I wonder what happened to her after that ? Like we both have different lives and we were together for one day. She was nice, maybe we could have been friends ?
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I’m lost, what are u talking about ??
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On the plus side, marrying your first cousin is proven to be not that bad ….so, at least not bad biological ?
Unknown wrote: "MoonLight wrote: "Elena wrote: "Oh my gosh, this is soo good. And I didn't know you were into theatre"Yeah as a reader it's really interesting, but I really didn't feel good at that time😂 btw I'm..."
omg why not? Don't you like theatre or what?
Bonnie wrote: "Is going out with your cousin even allowed? 😂 sounds like Jane Eyre"Oh come on! this is 21st century. It's not like your brother. It's just a cousin.
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Idk where Bonnie is from but most probably it is very uncommon in her place to marry from first cousin.
Idk where moonlight is from either but I guess it isn’t uncommon to marry your first cousin ?
I’m from India and it isn’t uncommon here.
It is proven that it isn’t bad, so I guess as long as everyone is happy ?
I’ve never heard of anyone marrying their cousin except from in tv shows. Yeah, I think it’s right that it’s allowed but I never knew it was. You learn something new every day
Yeah, as long as your children don't turn out with an illness, what's the problem? I think if there's love between them, it can actually be a really compatible match. The families know each other, the lovers have seen each other from a very long time and in every kind of situation, etc. So yeah, why not?Btw why did u say that we wouldn't even sit in the same side of the class let alone be in the same friends group if we were classmates Unknown reader? I'm really curious
Yeah exactly, even if they decide to break up, they will still be cousins forever.
Well yeah, if they break up some bad blood might arise😂 I think you have to be cautious in a relationship like that
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Oh ..this requires a bit of explanation,
So, this varies from school to school but let me take example of my 2nd school (worst school ever)
Basically, my classmates were divided. Not like cliques or something but yeah, there was this sort of vague division. There were cool rebellious people, cool nerd people, just cool people, wannabe cool people, quiet people (I am here !), ‘wierd’ people ( also here ?).
You can belong in more than one group, you can be in one group and be in another group next week and sort of like that.
So…we were seated according to this. Students sat wherever they want at the beginning of the year, so that’s how you…know. If you ‘mistakenly’ sit in their group ..they would make you move. Not directly of course, more like ‘can you exchange seats with my friend ?’ Kinda intimidation.
You can speak with everyone but not like sit and chat with them. Because then you are automatically in ‘wannabe cool’ group, who are by the way just one step above wierd group and get laughed at a lot.
Ok, this is long …my point is you said you took lead roles in theatre, right ? You would have been in just cool group or any ‘cool’ group, which is far from my ‘quiet’ (or wierd) side of the class.
I hated this school , I can go on and on about my worse memories here.
My 3rd school was way better, I could freely speak with everyone there. But even then I would have found you intimidating to talk to.
Sorry to break it to you, but the schools in your area are weird and crap😂 I thought that this kind of division in schools and bullies from the so called cool groups was just for movies. I did take lead roles in school play because of my hard work not because I was genetically cool or an actor! and despite being a theatre kid, I easily interacted with cheerleaders and athletes and any other person.
In my opinion these labels are waaaay overrated. In the schools that I have been, being a bully was considered rude and even if anyone wanted to abuse someone they'd become outcasts and disliked by everyone. No one mocked anyone for being a little different or quiet.
I'm sorry you had to go through that and I hope you can make your place and prevent others from putting some people like yourself through hard situations.
Ugh some peoples schools are crap. My school is literally the best thing ever! Everyone is included, bullying is dealt with perfectly.
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Argh…hated there !
Unfortunately, unfairness was common too. I remember one time, there was this huge event where there was theatre and stuff and it was sooo cool. So, usually we will have audition, right ? WRONG.
Our class wasn’t even informed, the teachers selected whoever they thought were good. I’m sure it’s just coincidence that the class they selected had toppers. But it’s just so…unfair. Like at least an audition ?
That wasn’t the only time. Students complained, students got ignored.
It sucked.
As for bullies, there weren’t the obvious kind. It wasn’t mean comments and physical abuse. It was more subtle than that.
I remember sitting and reading a book and then…I was suddenly surrounded by a group. They didn’t do anything, just sat around me. Then they started asking questions ‘ why are you quiet ? Are u like scared of us ? Lol’. I gave one word answers hoping they will leave but they..didn’t. They would interrupt me and keep on asking questions. One of them would even play around with my stuff? I can’t even ask them to leave because then I’M the rude one. If I don’t answer, they would stop asking at one time but….they wouldn’t leave, just stare at me.
From outside they looked like they were being friendly but I was just uncomfortable and intimidated,
I’m pretty sure they wanted to do charity for the ‘quiet’ girl.
Anyway, sorry … this was soooo long. I’d rather forget that school. Let’s change topics !
UGHHHHH that kind of school needs someone like Barry smith to sort it out
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This might be a bit embarrassing, but I didn’t know what was dark academia until I googled it just now. I have been seeing it in a lot of places but I just ignored it.
Is dark academia books good ? What is it generally about ?
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This might be a bit embarrassing, but I didn’t know what was dark academia until I googl..."
I have not read much but maybe a few books here and there, I actually did love most of the stuff I read. I have a dark acadamia shelf you can maybe check out. Acadamia aesthetic basically romanticizes learning, dark acadamis is kinda focused on arts, poetry and mythology (it's not limited to that and it's actually kinda differnet for everyone) I do really enjoy it even though I am new to it. Most dark acadamia books have murder and school settings)
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Romanticises learning!? Wow, this might have to be my new favourite genre
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Yes, it is. It's set in a school and at one point Victor does poetry (I knew it from a reading vlog which I really recommend watching since it's kinda inspired me to read Vicious)
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Ikrr, it's not that huge unfortunately
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It's very aesthetically pleasing as well. I just made this weekly planner/dashboard on the app notion inspired by the aesthetic
Elena wrote: "Hello, Moonlight!!! Have you read Dorian Grey? I am in the mood for Dark academia and poetry"Unfortunately not and yeah I just adore the concept of Dark Academia
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So, person A and person B are sisters. One day, their parents go shopping and person A sees this. She asks them to bring her a good brand chocolate ( which they don’t bring usually). To her surprise they do bring those chocolates.
Now, person B, who was absent until now, sees this and says she wants the chocolates too and asks person A to share it. Normally when their parents bring chocolates like these, their rule is to share it 50-50. But this time person A refuses as she is the one who asked for it, if person B wanted the chocolate then she should have asked for it too. Also, if person A hadn’t asked then their parents wouldn’t have bought it.
Person B argues that it’s their parent’s money and they are the one who bought it, while person A did absolutely nothing. Person A argues back that they bought it for her. At this person B argues that such items are usually for the family and person A is being selfish.
They both look at their parents but their parents don’t want to do anything with this petty argument.
Now, ignoring stuff like age, size of the chocolates, time, or anything unrelated. Whose side are you on ? Person A or person B ? Why are you at that person’s side ?
I’d just say get a grip. Isn’t it common sense to share things like chocolates with all the family?
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Now, here’s the thing. Imagine this - your family is already shopping, so they are obviously going to bring stuff for the family , be it snacks, chocolates, or other stuff. In this, you make a special request, ‘ I like this brand of chocolate, can you please bring it for me ?’. They hear that, and bring it specially for you since you like it.
Now, your sister comes and ignoring all the stuff brought for FAMILY, she sees the stuff brought for you specially. And she’s like ‘oh I want that too’, even though you specifically asked this for yourself. It’s not like she isn’t getting chocolates, it’s more like she wants chocolates which you specifically have and they are plenty meant for the family. But she still wants the little chocolate which YOU have.
I know I added stuff but this is where thinking outside the box comes.
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Now, here’s the thing. Imagine this - your family is already shopping, so they are obviousl..."
Then that's smth else
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Now, here’s the thing. Imagine this - your family is already shopping, so t..."
..I presented it like that.
So …A or B ?
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Now, here’s the thing. Imagine this - your family is already ..."
A probably!
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I hope there are more opinions !
Unknown wrote: "Hey guys , I want your opinion on this hypothetical situation. Kind of like a little debate, let’s see where you stand !So, person A and person B are sisters. One day, their parents go shopping a..."
I'm sorry maybe it's because I'm a little older, but I couldn't care less about a chocolate bar and would give the whole thing to the other person to avoid any fight. I don't have the nerve for debates😂 I could go and buy it myself and eat the whole thing myself (which I kind of do😂) and btw avoiding a fight like that and being so level-headed will put me in my parent's good stead which is even better than the chocolate bar and will come more handy in future😁
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So, person A and person B are sisters. One day, their paren..."
Moonlight ! I was waiting for you !
I’m 20…one year older.
That’s a mature and better person thing to do. I guess, that’s what I would do too if I didn’t like the chocolate that much.
I argue a lot with my sisters…so can’t relate.
Anyway, for me it’s not the chocolate (that’s just an item I chose to represent). It’s the question of boundaries and ownership.
Do you gain ownership of an item through just a request ? Or is it still in the ownership of the person who bought and did every thing to get it ?
Where do the boundaries of family lie ? Are u required to share everything with your family ? If not, then where do the boundaries exactly start ?
Lastly, what are the rules of sharing ? Is the item usually meant to share still follow the same rules if it was meant for only one person ?
So moonlight, it’s bit of cheating but let me change the scene a bit. Your parents got the chocolate ( or an important item to you) from abroad and you really want that item and can’t find it anywhere.
Does your opinion change now ?
Yeah, I know it’s a petty fight but I love debates ! (See title). I love seeing different opinions too !
I don't know why, but I assumed you were 15 or sth😂 I don't want to share personal information too, but age is not that much personal you can include it in ur profile so this kind of confusion doesn't occur.And for your question, I think it mostly depends on the family members. Some families are not worth spending anything, but some are worth dying for. Therefore, I think that there's always more to the story than meets the eye and I honestly can't give you a definite answer till I'm in the situation myself.
Do you gain ownership of an item through just a request ? Or is it still in the ownership of the person who bought and did every thing to get it ? You don't gain ownership through requesting an item, but if someone asked for something and were given/gifted that item, the person who bought it loses ownership over it and it would now become the property of the recipient, in my opinion.
Where do the boundaries of family lie ? Are u required to share everything with your family ? If not, then where do the boundaries exactly start ?
I also believe that all relationships require boundaries, family or not. The boundaries are set however the person setting them wants. You're also never under any obligation to share anything with anyone.
Lastly, what are the rules of sharing ? Is the item usually meant to share still follow the same rules if it was meant for only one person ?
The rules to sharing depend on the boundaries that the person who now has ownership over the item sets. They get to share however much or little they like.
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15 ?! Well, actually I have not mentally progress since 5 years ago, so you are not that off. Time passed so fast ! I still feel like 15 years old.
Also, I thought my age was in my profile but oops, I set the profile 5 years ago, so I guess I took the unknown persona a bit too far lol.
Also, I guess it is a bit of a personal situation ? I mean if you love sister that much you will always share regardless of ownership issues.
But ! It is a debate, and you are supposed to look at it at an unbiased outsider point. So I assume you are taking person B’s side ?
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You don't gain ownership through requesting an i..."
Thanks for your detailed opinion ! I feel like these questions are a bit difficult to answer because often times there is no definite answer.
I mean, you said that the person loses ownership when they gift it or give it to someone. That is true at all times but in this situation it’s a bit unclear.
Person A did request something but did the parents bought it for her or the family ? Often times, these things are meant for the family regardless of who request the item.
So, person A had requested something. Assuming parents didn’t exactly bought it for her but rather bought it because they got an opinion for what to bring…does person A still deserves the item ?
The item won’t be there if person A haven’t requested it ..so can it still belong to her ?
Sorry to make it complicated, I just love debating lol 😅
So, I’ll take it that you are on person A’s side ?
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Person A - 2
Person B - 2
…I hope there are more opinions !
I'm netrual, but if I have to choose, yes B. A is being really selfish if u ask me
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Ouch…some thing tells me it’s going to be difficult to persuade you…but I’ll still try.
Isn’t person B also being selfish by asking for something that person A has specifically requested ?
Their siblings! it's completely normal to ask from your sibling to share something with you. As they always do.
I would say I'm on person A's side because when making the request she made it clear it was for her and not for them. If anyone assumed she was sharing then that's on them because she never implied that. "She asks them to bring her a good brand chocolate"
The parents never corrected her when she said it was bought for her. They could have easily ended the argument by saying they bought it to be shared as it usually is, considering you did say sharing was a rule. why wouldn't they enforce their own rules? Favoritism? Welp, that still wouldn't be person A's fault.
When someone makes a specific request like that they're thinking of something they want, and unless they explicitly say they're planning on sharing, you shouldn't assume.
Besides, how could person A possibly know Person B happened to wanted some?
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