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I really think Sony are milking TLOU now with this remake. The first game out only 9 years ago and has had a remaster in the intervening years. It's a classic no doubt but time to move on.
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Equinox80 wrote: "I really think Sony are milking TLOU now with this remake. The first game out only 9 years ago and has had a remaster in the intervening years. It's a classic no doubt but time to move on."
Yea I don’t disagree at all. It’s not needed especially after remastering it for PS4. I think if they sold the PS5 version for a more reasonable price I’d be more ok with it. Still it’s a good game and I haven’t played it since PS3 so I’d like to play it again. And I loved TLOU2 so would like to play that again on PS5 at 60fps.
Yea I don’t disagree at all. It’s not needed especially after remastering it for PS4. I think if they sold the PS5 version for a more reasonable price I’d be more ok with it. Still it’s a good game and I haven’t played it since PS3 so I’d like to play it again. And I loved TLOU2 so would like to play that again on PS5 at 60fps.

Re: the new TLoU 1 remaster - Had a bit of a chuckle at the PS store synopsis - says something like - remains faithful to the original while updating with modern gameplay mechanics...… are Naughty Dog capable of modern gameplay mechanics? ;) I tried replaying Uncharted 4 when the PS5 upgrade was released and even it felt really dated gameplay wise and it's not that old. It'll look good but that's about it.
I can partly understand them remastering it again though, mostly because I felt the PS4 version was pretty half-assed. That one felt like a cheap effort and purely a money grab (though to be fair most fall into this category, there are probably more examples of half-assed ones than good ones in general). Built from the ground up will probably suit it better

I laughed at the term 'modern game mechanics' too. How long does it need to be until a game isn't modern anymore?
In my mind the original TLOU is still a modern game and therefore has modern mechanics. How much are they going to change it?
In my mind the original TLOU is still a modern game and therefore has modern mechanics. How much are they going to change it?
Equinox80 wrote: "I laughed at the term 'modern game mechanics' too. How long does it need to be until a game isn't modern anymore?
In my mind the original TLOU is still a modern game and therefore has modern mech..."
My only fear is that they change the story to make it more close to Tlou 2 and take out the focus on Joel and Ellie.
I truly dont see the need for a remake other then to milk money and keep ND relevant in the gaming scene.
In fact, i kinda feel the same way with most remakes because its an easy way to put out a product and rely on past criativty instead of risking something new.
Dead Space is another remake that i have nearly zero interest in.
I love the original and finished it 4 or 5 times already.
Why will i replay the same game again just because it has better graphics? If its like 20 bucks ok but i wont pay full price for it in a million years.
Resi 2 Remake was good because it changed the perspective in which we play, it changed a lot of things to a point it was an actual new game.
Dead Space, Tlou 1 and other like them are taking out space that coult be used to create brand new games, imo.
In my mind the original TLOU is still a modern game and therefore has modern mech..."
My only fear is that they change the story to make it more close to Tlou 2 and take out the focus on Joel and Ellie.
I truly dont see the need for a remake other then to milk money and keep ND relevant in the gaming scene.
In fact, i kinda feel the same way with most remakes because its an easy way to put out a product and rely on past criativty instead of risking something new.
Dead Space is another remake that i have nearly zero interest in.
I love the original and finished it 4 or 5 times already.
Why will i replay the same game again just because it has better graphics? If its like 20 bucks ok but i wont pay full price for it in a million years.
Resi 2 Remake was good because it changed the perspective in which we play, it changed a lot of things to a point it was an actual new game.
Dead Space, Tlou 1 and other like them are taking out space that coult be used to create brand new games, imo.
I generally don't mind remakes and remasters but this one seems completely unnecessary. I really don't think they'll change the story, it will just be the same with maybe Ellie's AI improved so she hides from enemies better than in the original. Other than that and an improvement in visuals (which the remaster already did), I can't see there's much else that needs to be changed.
Sony seemed to be more open to risks, TLOU itself being a new IP and therefore a risk. If stuff like this becomes their focus over innovation, ie what made them so successful last gen, I worry for them.
Sony seemed to be more open to risks, TLOU itself being a new IP and therefore a risk. If stuff like this becomes their focus over innovation, ie what made them so successful last gen, I worry for them.
Yea I'm the same I generally don't mind remasters and remakes - I prefer remakes as they tend to have more of an upgrade. I'm interested by all of the announced remakes TLOU1, Dead Space and Resi 4. I loved the first two and love to replay them in crisp 4k 60fps with better textures and models etc. At the right price however - full price for these ramakes IMO is too much. OK. They are remakes but the basis of the game's design is already done - so it's taking the skeleton of the first game and fleshing it to be more modern. Surely much cheaper and quicker than making an entirely new game from scratch. Resi 4 I have played before to a point - and I loved the atmosphere and the setting - but I didn't get on with the controls, movement and shooting mechanics - so I hope a remake would "fix" a lot of that. Some say that was part of the games charm - for me it ruined the experience. Plus I really really struggled with ammo - please add a 'more ammo' option too :-). Control did it kinda and the Metro games :-).
A good remake that i would definitly be excited for is No One Lives Forever 1 and 2.
Both were amazing games and its a shame they are in the limbo of time.
Both were amazing games and its a shame they are in the limbo of time.

They are going to convert it to a 2D action platformer. When I look at the PS Store, half the games are that type, so it's the obvious move apparently
I tell you what I'm really looking forward to in terms of side scrollers - Somerville: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcjnH.... Some of the same people, different company however, that did Limbo and Inside. Loved those games.

Also finished off Absolute Drift. Not going to try to plat, looks tricky even without a dodgy controller.
And think I've given up on the idea of a PS4 Forbidden West playthrough. Other games I've not had a problem adjusting to lower framerates from PS5 to PS4 but for some reason I'm finding it hard to watch. IMO it looks awful in motion compared to the PS5 version.
And had a second look at the PS+ tiers, to see if it was worth paying a few quid to upgrade to the end of my current sub as a trial. But no, only a few games that I'd be mildly interested in that I don't own (and one of those is Lawnmower Sim lol), so not worth it for me. If they'd included a few more PSVR games I might have been more interested
Haha not just me interested in Lawnmower Sim then.

Doubt I'll resubscribe to the top tier once it expires, can't see Sony being generous with additions but can't complain much
Hi all. Finally completed Sniper Elite 5. Absolutely cracking game that I really enjoyed. The final mission was so good sniping through a bombed out city in ruins and on fire. Climbing a Bell Tower in the middle of the burned out city sniping loads of Nazis. I even killed my high priority target from the bell tower several hundred metres away as he walked past a window in the Nazi headquartes - so satisfying. And then it finishes in an underground sub facility. Such a great and varied mission. Story wise pretty basic but for open map design, atmosphere and game play it's so good. Anyway on to my next game - maybe the Metro Exodus DLC. We'll see.

I'll find myself thinking I really need to move on to something else, hours later I'm still cutting away
Hi everyone
Reached the 50 hr mark in Dying Light 2 and i dont think im even mid game.
Its a great game. One can get lost in that world for hrs and hrs.
Theres this paraglider that everyone talks about that its a great adition to the game and i only got it yesterday...50 hrs into.
Either i really play at a slow pace or the game is huge.
Reached the 50 hr mark in Dying Light 2 and i dont think im even mid game.
Its a great game. One can get lost in that world for hrs and hrs.
Theres this paraglider that everyone talks about that its a great adition to the game and i only got it yesterday...50 hrs into.
Either i really play at a slow pace or the game is huge.


Half tempted to crack and pick up Elex 2 but then I don't think I ever got around to finishing the first one, so should probably do that first.

I've enjoyed it well enough but another 300 odd (in-game) days of mowing is too much, especially when some of the contracts take over an hour (though that's partly because I was using cheap-ass mowers at the time). I've taken that as a sign it's time to move on

I've not played anything for a while again. These gaps between games get longer and longer and can half see them becoming perm one day.
It's my birthday soon so if I get any money or vouchers I may pick up Wonderlands (the Borderlands spin off) but even then I've only a minimal hankering for it.
It's my birthday soon so if I get any money or vouchers I may pick up Wonderlands (the Borderlands spin off) but even then I've only a minimal hankering for it.


Also played about 10 minutes of Elex 2.... seems like more of the same of what I'd played of the first but the start is a bit laughable. No spoilers but between the cutscene at the start and when you first take control of your character there seems to be a bit of a lack of attention to detail. Definitely not a AAA or even A game and would probably lucky to be considered a B, but probably one I'll enjoy well enough once I'm done with Disgaea dood

It's my birthday soon so if I get any money or vouchers I m..."
Might be pretty much more of the same but I definitely enjoyed Wonderlands a lot more than I did B3
Morning everyone.
Contrary to John and his lack of gaming will power i´ve been hawing games for the X that i already own on the PS4 which is not stupid at all. lol.
Just yesterday i rebougt The Sinking City-
Its hard to play a game in the Pro now when i can play it on the X with better framerates and faster loadings.
AC Odissey is probably the next victim.
Contrary to John and his lack of gaming will power i´ve been hawing games for the X that i already own on the PS4 which is not stupid at all. lol.
Just yesterday i rebougt The Sinking City-
Its hard to play a game in the Pro now when i can play it on the X with better framerates and faster loadings.
AC Odissey is probably the next victim.
Morning all. Managed to game a little this weekend and finished Alan Wake The Signal DLC. Very very good. Not an easy DLC - struggled a little at times. Only The Writer DLC to go. Really looking forward to Alan Wake 2.
Decky. There is a house renovation sim game too. Got to be better than mowing.
Decky. There is a house renovation sim game too. Got to be better than mowing.
"Might be pretty much more of the same but I definitely enjoyed Wonderlands a lot more than I did B3"
I've picked it up mate. £25 on Amazon which I thought was pretty good. Looking forward to making a start but weirdly got into replaying Wolfenstein: The New Order so put it to one side for now.
I've picked it up mate. £25 on Amazon which I thought was pretty good. Looking forward to making a start but weirdly got into replaying Wolfenstein: The New Order so put it to one side for now.

Error wrote: "I've been playing Far Cry 5 lately, free on Game Pass. Enjoying it a fair bit more than I anticipated. Probably helps that I haven't played a Far Cry since 3 first came out. I must say, it is a bit..."
Hi Error.
Thats so cool.
I enjoyed FC5 for sure.
We dont have that kind of preppers here in Portugal but i do understand where they´re coming from and what drives them,
I advise you to also play New Dawn. I started it right after finishing FC 5 and it felt like a proper continuation of the main game.
Hi Error.
Thats so cool.
I enjoyed FC5 for sure.
We dont have that kind of preppers here in Portugal but i do understand where they´re coming from and what drives them,
I advise you to also play New Dawn. I started it right after finishing FC 5 and it felt like a proper continuation of the main game.

Error wrote: "I remember hearing positive things about New Dawn. I'd be willing to pick it up if I see it on one of the those DLC sales. I don't know how I'll be feeling about the game itself by that point. We'l..."
To me, by the time i finished FC 5 i was still wanting to play a bit more so New Dawn fit perfectly.
Plus, it really changes the overall feeling and atmosphere of the game so its not more of the same per say.
Mind that its not a DLC. Its actually a stand alone game.
To me, by the time i finished FC 5 i was still wanting to play a bit more so New Dawn fit perfectly.
Plus, it really changes the overall feeling and atmosphere of the game so its not more of the same per say.
Mind that its not a DLC. Its actually a stand alone game.

Lawnmowing sim? Sounds pretty shit...why the feck are you bothering with it lol? You don't have to play every game that comes out just because it exists...or do you?
"Lawnmowing sim? Sounds pretty shit"
That's what they said about Farming Simulator. Oh, how wrong they were.
That's what they said about Farming Simulator. Oh, how wrong they were.

I'll give almost any game a go if I think I can get a few hours entertainment out of it. I've said many a time, I just don't get walking sims, they are probably the only ones I'm wary of, so generally avoid them. But apart from those, I'll give any game a chance.
Can't say I was too fond of FC New Dawn, I'd lost all interest by the end. Could have been due to Ubi-fatigue at the time though
I've been carrying on with Wolfenstein and enjoying it more than when I first played it about 9 years ago.
Tempted by WRC 10 again in the new PS store sale at £11.24 but maybe I should leave it having already bought and not started Wonderlands.
Tempted by WRC 10 again in the new PS store sale at £11.24 but maybe I should leave it having already bought and not started Wonderlands.
Hi everyone.
Still playing Dying Light 2.
Im 60 hrs into and still have half the map to explore.
Its starting to afect me having to deal with fear and horror every single night for maybe 3 weeks now (or more) but i cant help it as the game is pure fun.
The story is ok and somewhat forgetabble (at times i dont even remember what im supose to be doing) but its one of those games you can start a session, play around for 2 hrs doing random stuff and exploring, call it a night and have zero progress in the story.
I think the game is at least as good as DL 1.
I also hawed Pathologic 2 for the X. :P
Still playing Dying Light 2.
Im 60 hrs into and still have half the map to explore.
Its starting to afect me having to deal with fear and horror every single night for maybe 3 weeks now (or more) but i cant help it as the game is pure fun.
The story is ok and somewhat forgetabble (at times i dont even remember what im supose to be doing) but its one of those games you can start a session, play around for 2 hrs doing random stuff and exploring, call it a night and have zero progress in the story.
I think the game is at least as good as DL 1.
I also hawed Pathologic 2 for the X. :P
Apparently the next God of War game (Ragnarok) launches on 9th Nov 2022.

Think I'm going to stick Forbidden West on over the weekend to see if the PS4 version looks any less horrible now (compared to PS5) after the framerate update. Tempted to pick up AI: The Somnium Files Nirvana Initiative tomorrow (I think that's when it's out), did enjoy the previous one and Yurukill sounds mildly interesting so might be time to do a bit of hawing instead....
DeckardCain's Sandals wrote: "I'm kind of half tempted to give the last God of War one final chance (for the fifth time). At this point I've no real interest in Ragnarok, unless the previous one clicks before then it'll be a wa..."
Hi Deck.
for some weird reason im the same with GoW.
I have it for a realyl long time but i never felt the apeal to play it despite everyone saying its a really good game.
I tried it a couple of times but no more then 5 minutes each and i ended up going with another game.
I really can put my finger on why though as it seems to be the kind of game i usually enjoy.
Hi Deck.
for some weird reason im the same with GoW.
I have it for a realyl long time but i never felt the apeal to play it despite everyone saying its a really good game.
I tried it a couple of times but no more then 5 minutes each and i ended up going with another game.
I really can put my finger on why though as it seems to be the kind of game i usually enjoy.
I thought GoW was good but not the masterpiece it was made out to be. 7.5-8/10 tops.
I'm interested in Ragnarok but won't be a day one purchase for sure.
More Wolfenstein last night. Will probably finish the campaign tonight and then try and mop up the perks I missed first time round.
I'm interested in Ragnarok but won't be a day one purchase for sure.
More Wolfenstein last night. Will probably finish the campaign tonight and then try and mop up the perks I missed first time round.
When i finish Dying Light 2 (in 2045 probably...) i hope i still have the itch to play Death Stranding.
Its a game that i feel im ready to try at this point and see what all the fuss was about.
Im really curious.
On the other hand i watched a walkthrough video of it the other day and, unless i got it wrong, it had over 1 hr of cutscenes before the gameplay starts which is...worrying. lol
Its a game that i feel im ready to try at this point and see what all the fuss was about.
Im really curious.
On the other hand i watched a walkthrough video of it the other day and, unless i got it wrong, it had over 1 hr of cutscenes before the gameplay starts which is...worrying. lol
I loved GoW. 9/10 for me and very much looking forward to Ragnorok. Although don't know when I'll play it, probably not anytime soon. It's got to be played on PS5 for me, don't think I'll be playing it on my PS4.
talking about a PS5...i almost joined a waiting list in a huge store here for one.
They had no delivery estimate but they also dont charge anything in advance.
Im not sure what to do. Im already making a considerable backlog in my X but a Ps5 is always a Ps5... :(
They had no delivery estimate but they also dont charge anything in advance.
Im not sure what to do. Im already making a considerable backlog in my X but a Ps5 is always a Ps5... :(
"It's got to be played on PS5 for me, "
I'm starting to hold back on some games now until I get a PS5. There are games like Horizon Forbidden West or even GoW Ragnarok that are have been or will be released on both but I think the PS4 versions just won't be the same.
Unfortunately by the time I get to a PS5, they'll be releasing the PS6.
I'm starting to hold back on some games now until I get a PS5. There are games like Horizon Forbidden West or even GoW Ragnarok that are have been or will be released on both but I think the PS4 versions just won't be the same.
Unfortunately by the time I get to a PS5, they'll be releasing the PS6.
Equinox80 wrote: ""It's got to be played on PS5 for me, "
I'm starting to hold back on some games now until I get a PS5. There are games like Horizon Forbidden West or even GoW Ragnarok that are have been or will b..."
For sure.
I already decided not to buy more games for the PS4.
I had Cyberpunk 2077 there but after i bought the X i knew it had to be played there so i bought it again along with FC6.
Im only playing DL2 on the Pro because it was a gift from my kids.
I'm starting to hold back on some games now until I get a PS5. There are games like Horizon Forbidden West or even GoW Ragnarok that are have been or will b..."
For sure.
I already decided not to buy more games for the PS4.
I had Cyberpunk 2077 there but after i bought the X i knew it had to be played there so i bought it again along with FC6.
Im only playing DL2 on the Pro because it was a gift from my kids.

Error wrote: "Yeah, I think 60FPS is the bare minimum for any sort of action-oriented game now. PS5 and XSX are just necessary for newer games to feel "right". I was playing Elden Ring on my old One X the other ..."
Exactly.
I´ve been rebuying a bunch of ps4 games exacly for that reason.
After getting used to 60 fps its really hard to go back to 30.
I played all of Fallout 3 in 60 fps and im now playing Fallout 4 and it has been a joy. The framerate makes the game so much more pleasant to play.
Btw, i´v put 40+ hrs in F4 and i still havent got to Diamond City yet. haha
Exactly.
I´ve been rebuying a bunch of ps4 games exacly for that reason.
After getting used to 60 fps its really hard to go back to 30.
I played all of Fallout 3 in 60 fps and im now playing Fallout 4 and it has been a joy. The framerate makes the game so much more pleasant to play.
Btw, i´v put 40+ hrs in F4 and i still havent got to Diamond City yet. haha
Error wrote: "Maybe that's the kick I need to go finish New Vegas."
After im done with Fallout 4 im going for New Vegas as that´s my favourite of them all.
Repaying it at 60 fps will be awesome.
After im done with Fallout 4 im going for New Vegas as that´s my favourite of them all.
Repaying it at 60 fps will be awesome.