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J. wrote: "France election 2024: How will the second round run-off work?https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/...
Macron's governme..."
They took their cues from Democrats saying if Trump is elected our Democracy wil end.
Beau wrote: "The only thing to happen of note over the last few days, in the UK GE, concerns Reform...Basically, they have been flying and moved several % above the Conservatives in the polls. Then, towards e..."
Is Reform a serious party or gadflies?
An interesting point regarding Trump - he has promised a 10% tariff on exports to the US. Given Australia has a free trade deal with the US, and Australia exports much of what we do, there is a very good chance we shall effectively lose the US market. There are various ways of looking at this, but many of the possible alternatives are countries the US does not like. This makes the early part of the Trump presidency somewhat interesting.
Papaphilly, that's a difficult question to answer.
In terms of supporter numbers and leadership, it's a serious party but many people think it's just being used as a vehicle to steer the Conservative Party back towards conservatism, and that if it's relatively successful in this election, we might end up with Nigel Farage heading a new, amalgamated party of the right, which would probably retain the name 'Conservatives'. A sort of reverse take over lol!
Since I last posted, on the back of the C4 racism expose, a couple of Reform candidates have left the party to join the Conservatives. Whether the expose was legitimate or not, it's certainly had an impact.
In some ways, I actually hope the expose was legitimate because if it was a set up then it's made an absolute mockery, if one were needed, of our entire democracy. Dirty tricks off the scale.
Watch this space.
In terms of supporter numbers and leadership, it's a serious party but many people think it's just being used as a vehicle to steer the Conservative Party back towards conservatism, and that if it's relatively successful in this election, we might end up with Nigel Farage heading a new, amalgamated party of the right, which would probably retain the name 'Conservatives'. A sort of reverse take over lol!
Since I last posted, on the back of the C4 racism expose, a couple of Reform candidates have left the party to join the Conservatives. Whether the expose was legitimate or not, it's certainly had an impact.
In some ways, I actually hope the expose was legitimate because if it was a set up then it's made an absolute mockery, if one were needed, of our entire democracy. Dirty tricks off the scale.
Watch this space.
Trouble is, J, if Bin Face started to pose a threat to the establishment, they'd nail him too.
Regarding the defections from Reform to the Conservatives, this is what Reform and its supporters are saying:
https://x.com/danwootton/status/18081...
As I don't trust our political establishment one iota, at this moment in time, I believe Reform.
Let's see how this plays out.
https://x.com/danwootton/status/18081...
As I don't trust our political establishment one iota, at this moment in time, I believe Reform.
Let's see how this plays out.
Ian wrote: "An interesting point regarding Trump - he has promised a 10% tariff on exports to the US. Given Australia has a free trade deal with the US, and Australia exports much of what we do, there is a ver..."This is what Trump does. Do I worry about Australia? No. China? They are in for a hard road with Trump. Like him or not, he does things no one else does.
My guess is our exports to the US are in for a hard time.
Looks like the WEF won the UK election again, so they will remain in power in the UK with a new PM to front them.
It appears the UK has decided to throw out the current set of bums, and bring back the previous set of bums.The Koh-I-Noor continues to sit in the Tower.
I think Blair's lot have gone. We should give the new guys a chance to do something good before assuming they are just bums.
Labour win humongous majority. Conservatives annihilated with worst result ever. Great night for Lib Dems and bad night for Scots Nats. As things stand, Reform has won 4 seats and Nigel will be an MP.
Graeme, we've gone from Davos medium strength to hardcore Davos. I appreciate what Ian says about giving everyone a chance but I'm far from optimistic.
The country's values haven't really changed since the Conservatives won a thumping majority in 2019, but you know how it is. This is the result we get with a FPTP electoral system, a heavily indoctrinated electorate that thinks it's got to be one of 2 parties, and a hated government.
Graeme, we've gone from Davos medium strength to hardcore Davos. I appreciate what Ian says about giving everyone a chance but I'm far from optimistic.
The country's values haven't really changed since the Conservatives won a thumping majority in 2019, but you know how it is. This is the result we get with a FPTP electoral system, a heavily indoctrinated electorate that thinks it's got to be one of 2 parties, and a hated government.
For anyone interested in the story behind the result, this is a good article:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c...
Something of particular interest - Reform got a higher % of vote than the Lib Dems but won 67 fewer seats. That's a First Past The Post electoral system for you, folks.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c...
Something of particular interest - Reform got a higher % of vote than the Lib Dems but won 67 fewer seats. That's a First Past The Post electoral system for you, folks.
Can and will Labour do anything to address the UK's biggest problem, its economy.https://youtu.be/r5MaxuMvkL4?si=3NeiB...
Beau wrote: "For anyone interested in the story behind the result, this is a good article:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c...
Something of particular interest - Reform got a higher % of vote tha..."
The argument for it is a bit like that for that of State representation in the US Senate.
In the UK system, the election is for people to represent a specific area. Thus citizens can go to their local MP and take their problem to the government. In turn, the MP is closely concerned with that specific area. If you look at the total vote, if the vote is dispersed but MPs appointed, that MP has no interest in any specific location. We got over that with MMP, where half are appointed to fix the total vote, but what happens is most of those appointed MPs, other than party leaders not game to face specific voters, are just vote fodder and they do nothing in parliament except armwave.
Does the UK or New Zealand have state/provincial governments with anywhere near the powers and responsibilities of US state governments?
New Zealand stopped having provincial government before about 1890. It also does not have a second house.
OK. That would not work in the USA. Individual US states are on par with many countries you could name.I looked up New Zealand's population, land area, and GDP. IF It were a state, New Zealand would rank 9th by area, 24th by population, and 24th by GDP. My home state of North Carolina just about doubles New Zealand's population and GDP in half the land area.
If the feds tried to micromanage all 50 states, it would collapse under its own weight. Similarly, if New Zealand were to suddenly be 50 times larger, its current government would be inadequate to the challenge of governing it all. Hence our Federal System which balances federal power against states' rights.
Ian, MMP sounds interesting. I'll look into that.
J, we have local councils, regional assemblies, mayors and devolved parliaments. Bar local councils, Blair introduced all of them, when he trashed our uncodified constitution.
Here's what the House of Commons would now look like with PR:
https://x.com/JamesMelville/status/18...
J, we have local councils, regional assemblies, mayors and devolved parliaments. Bar local councils, Blair introduced all of them, when he trashed our uncodified constitution.
Here's what the House of Commons would now look like with PR:
https://x.com/JamesMelville/status/18...
J. wrote: "OK. That would not work in the USA. Individual US states are on par with many countries you could name.I looked up New Zealand's population, land area, and GDP. IF It were a state, New Zealand wo..."
Agree completely. All I was doing was answering the question of what would happen.
That the GDP doubles in North Carolina is partly because of then greater population, partly because businesses have the whole US to market in, and partly because the US dollar is worth a lot more.
I would never suggest Washington dissolves the states. We have one centre of government simply because we are a small country
This hasn't really got a thread, but it has made a big impact here. The NZ football Ferns were having a practice for their match against Canada, and Canada sent two drones overhead to see what was happening. Sport has somehow seemed to be going towards not being sporting.
Surfer’s Leg Washes Ashore After Shark Attack as Bystander Uses Dog Leash as Tourniquethttps://people.com/surfers-leg-washes...
So, the Canuckistanis have been studying at the feet of Bill Belichick.https://www.nbcsportsphiladelphia.com...
‘A point of no return:’ Why Europe has become an epicenter for anti-tourism protests this summerhttps://www.cnn.com/2024/07/27/travel...
J. wrote: "‘A point of no return:’ Why Europe has become an epicenter for anti-tourism protests this summerhttps://www.cnn.com/2024/07/27/travel......"
I actually get it. I live int he NYC area and have to deal with tourists all of the time, bot the American and Foreign. Lots of culture clashes. Nothing more frustrating to me than having one stop at the top of the subway entrance and look up while I am trying to get around them. Yet, let the toutists stop and the economy crashes. The protestors my be angry and that is fine and they protest and that is fine, but they really have no idea of how much money is being paid out and that is the hidden gem. While I do not quarrel with their argument, if that money dried up they would dead in the water.
Absolutely appalling scenes in England and Northern Ireland over the last week, particularly at the weekend, as a number of towns and cities have descended into what can only be described as race riots.
The catalyst was the brutal murder of 3 little girls in Southport, a week or so ago. Apparently, after this horrific attack, rumours on social media suggested the perpetrator was an immigrant (not true, the man arrested is UK born and son of immigrants). Anyway, the night after the peaceful vigils in Southport, there was rioting, with a mosque attacked.
Over the next few days, protests spread to other towns and cities, where there has been very serious disorder, including fighting with police, racist attacks, shops looted, other premises targeted, and even attempts to burn down hotels housing migrants. Also, a case in Middlesbrough, where people were stopping cars to look for non-white, non-English people.
The protestors appear to be a mixture of far right elements, general thugs, and (in terms of those protests that remained peaceful) ordinary members of the public concerned about issues like immigration and crime.
Heavily armed gangs of Muslims have been out to oppose the protestors/ thugs in some places up North too, while the far right fought against ANTIFA in Bristol.
This ongoing story is obviously dominating our news. Here's the latest from the BBC but you'll find info anywhere:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cw5yy...
Lots of footage of the actual trouble on Andy Ngo's Twitter account.
Elon Musk thinks the UK is heading for civil war. I don't think so (sense will surely prevail) but at this precise moment in time, it's difficult to know where we go from here.
The catalyst was the brutal murder of 3 little girls in Southport, a week or so ago. Apparently, after this horrific attack, rumours on social media suggested the perpetrator was an immigrant (not true, the man arrested is UK born and son of immigrants). Anyway, the night after the peaceful vigils in Southport, there was rioting, with a mosque attacked.
Over the next few days, protests spread to other towns and cities, where there has been very serious disorder, including fighting with police, racist attacks, shops looted, other premises targeted, and even attempts to burn down hotels housing migrants. Also, a case in Middlesbrough, where people were stopping cars to look for non-white, non-English people.
The protestors appear to be a mixture of far right elements, general thugs, and (in terms of those protests that remained peaceful) ordinary members of the public concerned about issues like immigration and crime.
Heavily armed gangs of Muslims have been out to oppose the protestors/ thugs in some places up North too, while the far right fought against ANTIFA in Bristol.
This ongoing story is obviously dominating our news. Here's the latest from the BBC but you'll find info anywhere:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cw5yy...
Lots of footage of the actual trouble on Andy Ngo's Twitter account.
Elon Musk thinks the UK is heading for civil war. I don't think so (sense will surely prevail) but at this precise moment in time, it's difficult to know where we go from here.
These groups have defined "Them". How many of these groups have created a definition of "Us" which can be easily accepted by a large portion of the British public?If such groups exist, the next element is government policies which leave a significant number of Brits feeling that their government has sided with the Them against the Us.
Once those are in place, all it takes is an attack by the government against the Us to precipitate the second British Civil War.
In the initial encounters, British gun laws would likely increase the butcher's bill because the government would be unleashing armed troops against mobs. The survivors would be in a position similar to the IRA except with better tech. Imagine the Troubles with drone warfare in every city and town.
Many people would agree with your first 2 paragraphs, J, as there is a widespread feeling amongst many right-wing commentators and white, working class people that there is already 2-tier policing. However, for me, your 3rd paragraph makes too big an assumption.
Amongst all the turmoil, here is a positive, uplifting story that shows, left to our own devices and with cool, rational minds, goodness can prevail:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c...
Amongst all the turmoil, here is a positive, uplifting story that shows, left to our own devices and with cool, rational minds, goodness can prevail:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c...
In my opinion, the real thing to attack here is the effect of fake news. That is basically the cause of this.I disagree slightly with Beau here. I doubt there will be a clear massive "us". I think the average Brit will be appalled at the thuggery and looting. It is very difficult to mount a movement in support of obvious vandals and thieves.
Ian, I think you've misinterpreted what I said (TBF, I think I slightly misread J's post as well).
The average Brit (me included) IS appalled by what's been happening!
That said, I would also think that the average Brit is concerned about immigration levels too. And there seems to be a growing belief that we're subject to 2-tier policing.
I agree with you about online misinformation being a major cause of all this. We saw an example of it yesterday, in Birmingham. False rumours spread of a far right rally being planned in Birmingham, and hundreds of Muslims congregated in an area where many of them live. On the surface, this was (or at least portrayed) as turning out to defend their community, but their later behaviour (shouting 'God is great', waving Palestinian flags, attacking lone people in cars and a pub) shows they have a large thuggish element of their own. Indeed, some of them appeared on Sky News before things turned ugly:
https://www-dailymail-co-uk.cdn.amppr...
Interestingly, the media this morning has chosen to focus on trouble in Plymouth between far right protestors, ANTIFA-type counter protestors and the police, largely ignoring events in Birmingham.
Dealing with online misinformation, of course, is going to be tricky because governments will need to tread a fine line to avoid straying into censorship. The internet, particularly with the advance of AI, is certainly proving a double-edged sword.
The average Brit (me included) IS appalled by what's been happening!
That said, I would also think that the average Brit is concerned about immigration levels too. And there seems to be a growing belief that we're subject to 2-tier policing.
I agree with you about online misinformation being a major cause of all this. We saw an example of it yesterday, in Birmingham. False rumours spread of a far right rally being planned in Birmingham, and hundreds of Muslims congregated in an area where many of them live. On the surface, this was (or at least portrayed) as turning out to defend their community, but their later behaviour (shouting 'God is great', waving Palestinian flags, attacking lone people in cars and a pub) shows they have a large thuggish element of their own. Indeed, some of them appeared on Sky News before things turned ugly:
https://www-dailymail-co-uk.cdn.amppr...
Interestingly, the media this morning has chosen to focus on trouble in Plymouth between far right protestors, ANTIFA-type counter protestors and the police, largely ignoring events in Birmingham.
Dealing with online misinformation, of course, is going to be tricky because governments will need to tread a fine line to avoid straying into censorship. The internet, particularly with the advance of AI, is certainly proving a double-edged sword.
This all is in deep contrast with what Beau claimed a year or so ago that UK had zero racial issues.You look at French, English, Belgian national teams and compare them to 30 years ago and you like - "what? were it not for jerseys how do you tell Senegal from UK?"
Similar tensions rise in other parts of Europe - in Germany, Holland and more. That's why far right is on the rise, riding on an anti-emigration ticket.
Now, well intentioned brits and others host emigrants who come for economic and other reasons without giving it a second thought. This non-existent second thought would entail anticipation from newcomers to feel thankful, to want to blend in, to be nice at the least and so on. However, only part of them feel positive. Another part of emigrants remains hostile, recluded, arrogant and imposes its own way of life where they concentrate. Not something the hosting nation wants to see.
Not politically correct, but practically correct - Danes and some others actively engage policies to avoid those aberrations, inter alia, by forbidding congregation. In other places, meanwhile, tensions rise.
I mean, if you like Middle East or Asia - you can buy a ticket and go visit, you don't necessarily want to see it materialize in your neighborhood.
Nowadays, the entire center of Munich doesn't look very different from Istanbul. Some like it, some don't.
Too late for some countries. They'd be "eaten" by Islamists at rather close future simply through demographics.
Beau, I would expect the average Brit to be appalled at what is happening, and I would also expect there to be a strong anti-illegal immigration feeling. My disagreement, and it was slight, was that I do not think this can degenerate into two strong groups that will go to war. I have seen some TV clips of what is going on and it is appalling.However, it would not surprise me to see violence and even terrorism spring up. But it wouol deeply surprise me if it descended into civil war.
The problem now is what to do with the arrested thugs. Rumour has it that UK jails don't have a lot of spare room. Whether they would adopt the South American concept of just throw them all in anyway is an interesting question
Nik wrote: "This all is in deep contrast with what Beau claimed a year or so ago that UK had zero racial issues.You look at French, English, Belgian national teams and compare them to 30 years ago and you lik..."
I think what Beau meant was that Britain had no racial issues with people who were British citizens. It is the illegal immigratin I think upsets the Brits, but maybe I am wrong.
Ian, I'm not sure why you're trying to manufacture areas of 'slight disagreement'. There is no disagreement. I completely agree with you and think Elon Musk is wrong.
Nik, I have always commented from personal experience and what I hear from trusted sources. The UK has always been a tolerant place and immigrants, on the whole, have assimilated very well.
IMO, what is now happening is that very small numbers of extremists on all sides are whipping up wider thuggish elements, who are dissatisfied with society and have too much time on their hands.
And as you read my posts, you'll also know that while I've praised UK tolerance and assimilation, I've warned against LEVELS of immigration for quite some time too. Unfortunately, politicians keep ignoring these widely held concerns.
Anyway, in Western Europe, we're already well past the tipping point. There is no palatable way of undoing what's done. The only sensible thing to do is try and get along with ALL of our fellow citizens. Life's too short for anything else.
Nik, I have always commented from personal experience and what I hear from trusted sources. The UK has always been a tolerant place and immigrants, on the whole, have assimilated very well.
IMO, what is now happening is that very small numbers of extremists on all sides are whipping up wider thuggish elements, who are dissatisfied with society and have too much time on their hands.
And as you read my posts, you'll also know that while I've praised UK tolerance and assimilation, I've warned against LEVELS of immigration for quite some time too. Unfortunately, politicians keep ignoring these widely held concerns.
Anyway, in Western Europe, we're already well past the tipping point. There is no palatable way of undoing what's done. The only sensible thing to do is try and get along with ALL of our fellow citizens. Life's too short for anything else.
You're being undone by a new wrinkle.The goal of functional immigration is what we in America used to call "the Melting Pot", the slow folding in of new ethnicities to the existing culture.
The first generation immigrants will self-ghettoize. They won't know the language and will find the new culture around them strange. So, they will mostly associate with people from "the old country". And because they are generally low skilled, they will be concentrated in low cost areas.
The second generation will know the language. And if the first generation was worth a damn, they will have been pushed to excel in school, increasing their economic opportunities and social mobility.
By the third and fourth generations, they are culturally American (or in your case British). They are likely to associate with and even marry people outside of their ethnic group.
The new wrinkle is DEI, Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion. Under DEI, the scholastic indoctrination necessary to create the second, third, and fourth generations is a hate crime. The first generation should be "included" in every aspect of the accepting society without regard to skill-set, cultural literacy, or their own willingness to adhere to mores, taboos, and norms. After all, those mores, taboos, and norms are themselves hate crimes. (If you don't believe me about the hate crimes, call a trans-woman "him".)
You're absolutely right, J, but the DEI mantra is now firmly embedded into every institution.
While the riots will fizzle out, the underlying problems of DEI, immigration numbers and online misinformation will remain, so it's a problem likely to rear its ugly head again.
It's a huge shame because I've experienced first hand how everyone can get along seamlessly, but the 'progressive' establishment just keep pushing and pushing this crazy agenda, playing right into a very small number of evil extremists' hands.
Add in economic decline and falling standards, and it's a lethal cocktail.
While the riots will fizzle out, the underlying problems of DEI, immigration numbers and online misinformation will remain, so it's a problem likely to rear its ugly head again.
It's a huge shame because I've experienced first hand how everyone can get along seamlessly, but the 'progressive' establishment just keep pushing and pushing this crazy agenda, playing right into a very small number of evil extremists' hands.
Add in economic decline and falling standards, and it's a lethal cocktail.
One problem with immigrants is numbers. It is reasonably easy to accommodate a small number, and we used to do that. We could because illegal immigration was rather difficult as any boat trip required traversing thousands of km over seas that could have some of the worst storm anywhere. Any ship had to be seaworthy, and have enough draft that it would have to stop in a proper port unless it unloaded by small boat.So when the numbers were small, they could be all taught the language and introduced to the culture before let loose. This was an expense, but was co9nsidered worth it. But now the numbers have increased dramatically. Because they are legal, they mostly know the language, but then comes the problem of a shortage of suitable infrastructure, like housing. I hope the UK can at least accommodate these immigrants properly. How the costs will be met is a difficult issue. They will need health care too, and from what I gather the NHS is under severe strain.
Beau, I completely missed it. How did Musk become part of this conversation?
UK police commissioner threatens to extradite, jail US citizens over online posts: ‘We’ll come after you’https://nypost.com/2024/08/10/media/u....
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Good Luck to that English idiot police Commissioner. Maybe he does not understand if it is not a crime in the United States, we have committed no crime. The United States tends to take dim views of threatening its citizens. But then i guess it is easier to threaten people than it is to actually fix what is ailing the populace.
The problem for the Commissioner is that to extradite someone, the court in the country from which the person is being extradited has to also find that the person has committed a crime, and the crime fell under the authority of the extraditing country. In my opinion, a US court would legitimately throw out the papers on both counts. I think the Commissioner spoke without thinking, being somewhat angry at what was going on in the UK.However, it does raise an issue with fake news being promulgated for the purpose of inciting riots.
Scout, Elon Musk said the UK is heading for civil war. I disagree with that (certainly regards the short-mediium term). Instead, we're competing with Germany to become the Canada or Australia of Europe.
J and Papa, don't take this nonsense personally to the US. Over here, we're seeing protestors jailed immediately, in kangaroo courts, for 2-3 years simply for shouting nasty things at the police. People have been immediately jailed for their online posts too. Also, threats to jail people for simply being present at the protests. All at courts and into jails that we've been told for the last couple of years have huge backlogs or are full to capacity.
While this happens, ANTIFA types have been holding large 'counter' protests. I put counter in inverted commas because they're 'countering' protests that are no longer even happening. Looks like just a show of strength, from the government's foot soldiers, to me.
You guys are okay at the mo because of senators lock and load. The rest of the Anglosphere looks right royally f****d to me.
I can't be bothered with it. Trying to save a civilisation whose institutions seem to positively want to convert it from a liberal democracy to a woke totalitarian regime is a waste of time. Let them do it then repent at their leisure.
I've seen this crazy government overreach coming since 2020, and it'll get a whole lot worse. The UK as we've all known it is heading for the history books, not because of a foreign invader whom one could attempt to repel, it's just committing hari kari instead.
This isn't the fault of the indigenous population or immigrants, it's the fault of an establishment who are a collective PoS.
There's nothing one can do to counter this sort of situation, so I'm not going to waste my energy thinking about it any longer. Let's talk about something uplifting like Saint Donald instead :)
J and Papa, don't take this nonsense personally to the US. Over here, we're seeing protestors jailed immediately, in kangaroo courts, for 2-3 years simply for shouting nasty things at the police. People have been immediately jailed for their online posts too. Also, threats to jail people for simply being present at the protests. All at courts and into jails that we've been told for the last couple of years have huge backlogs or are full to capacity.
While this happens, ANTIFA types have been holding large 'counter' protests. I put counter in inverted commas because they're 'countering' protests that are no longer even happening. Looks like just a show of strength, from the government's foot soldiers, to me.
You guys are okay at the mo because of senators lock and load. The rest of the Anglosphere looks right royally f****d to me.
I can't be bothered with it. Trying to save a civilisation whose institutions seem to positively want to convert it from a liberal democracy to a woke totalitarian regime is a waste of time. Let them do it then repent at their leisure.
I've seen this crazy government overreach coming since 2020, and it'll get a whole lot worse. The UK as we've all known it is heading for the history books, not because of a foreign invader whom one could attempt to repel, it's just committing hari kari instead.
This isn't the fault of the indigenous population or immigrants, it's the fault of an establishment who are a collective PoS.
There's nothing one can do to counter this sort of situation, so I'm not going to waste my energy thinking about it any longer. Let's talk about something uplifting like Saint Donald instead :)
Sorry, Beau, but news from the opposite side of the world is not uplifting. We have an electricity "crisis", i.e. not enough being generated to avoid price gouging. Why? The greenies and Ardern stopped prospecting for gas and hydrocarbons, despite clear evidence the major gasfield was in decline. About 15% of our electricity was generated from gas. The greenies argued that we could switch to "green energy". Having done that, they immediately protested against various wind generation because "it spoiled the view". So now power cuts are only avoided by running an very aged coal-fired plant that was supposed to be closed down, and thanks to the greenies closing down coal mining, it is being run on imported rubbish coal.
Go figure out this one.
Ian, I have every sympathy with you Kiwis. Similar thing happening over here. Government has put a stop to new oil and gas explorations in North Sea, with a view to terminating the whole industry.
Instead, they're going to cover our green and pleasant land with wind turbines and solar panels. Unfortunately, this still won't meet demand so we're going to import fossil fuel derived energy from abroad too. But, hey, as it's made abroad it won't prevent the UK claiming to be meeting its targets to become carbon neutral.
CLOWN WORLD!!!
Oh, and despite all of the above efforts, the South East hasvbeen told to expect regular power cuts by the end of the decade.
Let's protest! Oops, maybe not...
Instead, they're going to cover our green and pleasant land with wind turbines and solar panels. Unfortunately, this still won't meet demand so we're going to import fossil fuel derived energy from abroad too. But, hey, as it's made abroad it won't prevent the UK claiming to be meeting its targets to become carbon neutral.
CLOWN WORLD!!!
Oh, and despite all of the above efforts, the South East hasvbeen told to expect regular power cuts by the end of the decade.
Let's protest! Oops, maybe not...
Beau wrote: "Ian, I have every sympathy with you Kiwis. Similar thing happening over here. Government has put a stop to new oil and gas explorations in North Sea, with a view to terminating the whole industry. ..."Ian wrote: "Sorry, Beau, but news from the opposite side of the world is not uplifting. We have an electricity "crisis", i.e. not enough being generated to avoid price gouging.
Why? The greenies and Ardern s..."
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WELCOME TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY!!!!!
The same thing has been happening here since Biden's first day in office, when he also opened the border. I could see our future that day, which is why I've been so negative about him on this site. Turns out he was worse than I predicted. Sorry about the problems you guys are having with energy. Windmills and solar can't be counted on to provide reliable energy for a modern country.
My view is the simplest answer to the energy problem while not emitting greenhouse gases is to generate electricity with molten salt nuclear power. Leaving aside the inevitable objections from the greenies, we would have enough thorium to last for millennia. We might have to purchase a little seed uranium, but the point is it has far fewer problems with radioactive waste, it cannot melt down and it generates power for a very long time.
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Other parties are standing down candidates in an attempt to unify opposition to it. If they succeed, by basic mathematical laws of who's got what level of support, it's likely that French Government policy will then shift to the left, further angering the sizeable number of disgruntled people.
Should NR win the 2nd round, I predict left wing street violence on a huge scale, so whatever happens it looks like a difficult time ahead for France.
We got here because formerly sensible centrist parties no longer listen to legitimate concerns. They no longer listen because they've been captured by pan national NGOs and other globalists, who are driving extreme levels of unwanted change on us to benefit themselves.
Mix in the polarisation of Western populations, exacerbated by the internet, and it's a toxic brew.