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message 2651: by Nik (new)

Nik Krasno | 19850 comments NZ pioneered and then u-turned on banning cigs/fags:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/202...


message 2652: by Ian (new)

Ian Miller | 1857 comments NZ now has a new government, and their basic policy seems to be to undo everything the previous government tried to do. There was never a ban on cigs; but there was a ban on the number of outlets that could sell them. That sort of control is against the "free market" attitude for the new right wing politicians. This is a trivial act.

Mor4e interesting will be the intention to reduce salaries paid to the public service by about 15% - to be achieved by firing a whole lot of them.


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J. Gowin | 7977 comments Ireland is simmering.

Conor McGregor Saying Ireland 'at War' Sparks Outrage
https://www.newsweek.com/conor-mcgreg...

Today, he chimed in on X, attacking the Irish PM for saying that an Irish hostage of Hamas had gotten lost.
https://twitter.com/thenotoriousmma/s...

I've also been seeing posts of an Irish politician promoting an anti "hate speech" law in 2022 with the statement that they're restricting rights for the "public good".


message 2654: by J. (new)

J. Gowin | 7977 comments Ian, the description in the article reads as a nanny state type ban, complete with a statement about how it's for the greater good. I really wish people would stop building roads out of good intentions. They always seem to go to bad places.


message 2655: by Ian (new)

Ian Miller | 1857 comments That is why the Labour government lost the election.


message 2656: by Nik (new)

Nik Krasno | 19850 comments J. wrote: "....Today, he chimed in on X, attacking the Irish PM for saying that an Irish hostage of Hamas had gotten lost.
https://twitter.com/thenotoriousmma/s......"


Respect to Conor, disgrace to the PM


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J. Gowin | 7977 comments Venezuela prepares for possible invasion into Guyana
https://defence-blog.com/venezuela-pr...


message 2658: by Ian (new)

Ian Miller | 1857 comments Here is a case for an independently monitored referendum of the local population.


message 2659: by Graeme (last edited Dec 01, 2023 01:17PM) (new)

Graeme Rodaughan J. wrote: "Venezuela prepares for possible invasion into Guyana
https://defence-blog.com/venezuela-pr..."


Just saw this.

Given Maduro has a deal with Biden to supply cheap oil to the US into 2024 in support of Biden's re-election*, he now feels empowered to invade and annex territory of another country.

If it was wrong for Putin to invade Ukraine and annex territory, what makes it right for Maduro to do the same?

*Noting that this is spun in the corporate media (Wapo, etc) as a reward for Maduro promising a presidential election in Venezuela ... as if the US State Dept has ever cared about 'democracy, and free and fair elections,' in South America...

No, the real reason sanctions were eased was to get access to cheap oil to foster** lower inflation and bring up Brandon's terrible poll numbers.

Guyana is expendable.

**This strategy may not even work.


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It's not the double standards that makes one feel sick, Graeme, it's the fact that they're always coated in faux virtue...

Freedom, democracy, getting rid of the 'bad guys'. It's laughable..


message 2661: by Nik (new)

Nik Krasno | 19850 comments I want to ask you something - putler is by now responsible for 400-500k russians and Ukrainians dead. Is Sunak too, Macron, Biden? Faux or fox 🦊


message 2662: by [deleted user] (new)

Putin is partially responsible. Along with Biden, some of his predecessors, and all of his current puppets. In terms of Russia, Ukraine and NATO, the only innocent party is Ukraine.


message 2663: by Ian (new)

Ian Miller | 1857 comments Except Ukraine could have told Putin it would remain neutral as per Austria after WW 2, and would behave as Austria did.


message 2664: by Nik (new)

Nik Krasno | 19850 comments Why, you’d tell a bully, you’ll suck…?


message 2665: by Nik (new)

Nik Krasno | 19850 comments You can give the same advice to Fin and Swed , I guess


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J. Gowin | 7977 comments Graeme,

The Deep State has puppet, and they'll make the most of him. It isn't the first time.

Back in the 1950s, Guatemala elected a progressive president who decided to pursue a course of land reform straight out of Caesar's playbook. Essentially, buying land from foreign fruit plantations. Then allocating that land to farmers. Unfortunately for him, one of the largest land holders was United Fruit Company (now known as Chiquita Banana). And one of United Fruit's board members was Allen Dulles of the CIA. A military coup resulted in mass casualties and record profits for United Fruit. After resigning, the Guatemalan president mysteriously drowned. FOIA requests got several damning documents released in the 1990s.
https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSA...

Curiously, shortly after an American president fired Dulles from CIA, that American president was riding in his convertible when his head suddenly exploded. I'm sure it was just a coincidence.

I wonder why some think that Trump is the worst thing in American politics.


message 2667: by Ian (new)

Ian Miller | 1857 comments Τhe difference between Finland and Sweden and Ukraine is who had an army perched on its border? And what is wrong with that proposal? Austria became very prosperous, while Germany was cut in quarters. East Germany was not very prosperous.


message 2668: by Ian (new)

Ian Miller | 1857 comments J. wrote: "Graeme,

The Deep State has puppet, and they'll make the most of him. It isn't the first time.

Back in the 1950s, Guatemala elected a progressive president who decided to pursue a course of land r..."


Yes, military force is used by the US to make money, at least for some of them. Note they overthrew a democratically elected government and replaced it with a brutal military dictatorship. The CIA used the excuse that the country was under communist influence, but like weapons of mass destruction, no evidence could be produced. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1954_Gu....)


message 2670: by Graeme (new)

Graeme Rodaughan J. wrote: "Graeme,

The Deep State has puppet, and they'll make the most of him. It isn't the first time.

Back in the 1950s, Guatemala elected a progressive president who decided to pursue a course of land r..."


Indeed, J.

Cui Bono.


message 2671: by Ian (new)

Ian Miller | 1857 comments You might be interested in nearby Nicaragua https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contras
The Sandanistas were doing awful things, like improving health and education or the masses - the US couldn't have that! There is a TV seri8es based on the CIA in Nicaragua - I think they called it "Snowfall". Basically, at least part of the CIA funding was obtained by introducing crack cocaine into the US. What price is too high when the dreaded socialism has to be stopped elsewhere?


message 2672: by J. (new)

J. Gowin | 7977 comments Ian, read War is a Racket by General Smedley Butler.
https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/wari...

Now, perhaps you could address the last three sentences of my previous post. Just remember the forrest is dark and full of monsters, including the Commies.


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Ian Miller | 1857 comments J. wrote: "Ian, read War is a Racket by General Smedley Butler.
https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/wari...

Now, perhaps you could address the last three sentences of my previous post. Just remember t..."


That is a seriously disturbing link, J.

As for your last three sentences, with no evidence to link the JFK assassination I prefer not to comment. As for Trump, it is too early to say how good or bad a Pesident he was, but from my point of view he is a somewhat detestable man.


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Papaphilly | 5042 comments Ian,

The JFK assassination is one of those American obsessions. No matter what one thinks, you cannot truly eliminate the feeling there is more.


message 2676: by Ian (new)

Ian Miller | 1857 comments Papa, I tend to agree. I got the feeling there was so much incompetence in the following investigation that there is more to it, and I feel Oswald was shot to shut him up.


message 2677: by Scout (new)

Scout (goodreadscomscout) | 8071 comments Do you ever get the feeling that the same solution might be applied to shut someone up today if people/institutions thought they could get away with it, as they may have in Oswald's case?


message 2678: by Ian (new)

Ian Miller | 1857 comments I think it depends on the honesty of the Chief Investigator, and how efficient his underlings are. I think such evil can be uncovered, but it takes a lot of determination sometimes.


message 2679: by J. (new)

J. Gowin | 7977 comments Epstein


message 2680: by Graeme (new)

Graeme Rodaughan I second, J.

Assassination is a common tool of statecraft.


message 2681: by Philip (new)

Philip (phenweb) Don't forget incompetence at all levels - we all claim it in multiple threads but we are all quick to look for conspiracies when incompetence is far more common.


message 2682: by Papaphilly (new)

Papaphilly | 5042 comments Scout wrote: "Do you ever get the feeling that the same solution might be applied to shut someone up today if people/institutions thought they could get away with it, as they may have in Oswald's case?"

I cannot say no, but I do remain a bit skeptical. With all of the surveillance, forensics, chain of custody and better policing in general, I am hard pressed to say there is much information, hiding ti becomes damn near impossible. Do I think it can happen, sure. Do I think if someone could get away with it would they try, of course, human nature. Yet, I am still hard pressed.

I think Phillip has a good deal of it right with the incompetence. There is still bad policing. I tend to see it a bit more of government entropy than truly bad policing. It is the nature of government to be mediocre.


message 2683: by Graeme (last edited Dec 04, 2023 12:08PM) (new)

Graeme Rodaughan 10M+ Venezuelans vote 95% 'Yes,' to annex oil-rich territory in Guyana.

"All questions passed with more than 95% approval, according to electoral authority president Elvis Amoroso, who said at least 10.5 million votes were cast for 'yes' but did not confirm the number of voters.

REF: Reuters: https://www.reuters.com/world/america..."


Free and fair elections in action. 😆😉😎

On a more serious note, is an oil war about to erupt in South America?


message 2684: by J. (new)

J. Gowin | 7977 comments "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote."
-Benjamin Franklin

Hence, the USA is a constitutional republic with a Bill of Rights


message 2685: by Ian (new)

Ian Miller | 1857 comments Graeme wrote: "10M+ Venezuelans vote 95% 'Yes,' to annex oil-rich territory in Guyana.

"All questions passed with more than 95% approval, according to electoral authority president Elvis Amoroso, who said at lea..."


Presumably Guyana's did not vote.


message 2686: by Philip (new)

Philip (phenweb) For those who have followed multiple phone hacking trials, cases and so on today Murdoch Corp (not a subsidiary newspaper, TV station or journalist) reached an out of court 6 figure settlement plus legal costs with former MP Chris Hume

https://hackinginquiry.org/wp-content...

His statement states that executives knew and ordered illegal phone and other intercepts. He also brings up Fox news and other media companies globally

Multiple other cases are still in progress against Murdoch newspapers as well as Associated Press and others. Some always mention Prince Harry and Meghan to ensure ad revenue on sites outweighs cost of eventual settlements.

For those interested look at some other victims like the family of murdered school girl Milly Dower.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/j...

The newspapers and owners are now trying to claim cases are too late even as new evidence comes to light. So far the courts have ruled against them.


message 2687: by J. (new)

J. Gowin | 7977 comments U.S. announces military drills with Guyana amid dispute over oil-rich region with Venezuela
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/guyana-v...


message 2688: by Ian (new)

Ian Miller | 1857 comments That should deter Venezuela. Attacking the US miolitary is a re3ally bad idea.


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Scout (goodreadscomscout) | 8071 comments Why?


message 2690: by Ian (new)

Ian Miller | 1857 comments Why? In a conflict between the US and Venezuela, who do you think gets bombed?


message 2691: by Scout (new)

Scout (goodreadscomscout) | 8071 comments Do you think Biden has the guts to bomb Venezuela?


message 2692: by Ian (new)

Ian Miller | 1857 comments I hate to say this, but I don't think it will have much to do with guts. I am not convinced he actually thinks out his decisions any longer.


message 2693: by Scout (new)

Scout (goodreadscomscout) | 8071 comments :-) Finally, someone states the obvious. Biden should not be president again, and if you know it, the Democrats obviously do. Yet half the country would vote for him. How's that for insanity?


message 2694: by [deleted user] (new)

Torquay palm trees felled by council:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023...

I last visited Torquay about 1 1/2 years ago and the trees showed no signs of decay. Residents' comments back this up.

The town itself, on the other hand, showed plenty of signs of decay, but that's clearly not of any real concern to the council.

Readers from outside the UK might think this is a trivial story, but it is yet another little example of those in power's determination to suck every little bit of pleasure out of life in the UK and to replace all the little things that have brought joy to generations of people (to quote one resident, 'the symbolic images') with newfangled ideas. Our country is being reimagined by a bunch of imbeciles.

Apparently, the council is replacing the trees with some 'low maintenance' trees or shrubs - probably made of effing plastic. They'll undoubtedly have commissioned a 'study' too, telling us how the replacement is better for CO2 emissions, which the halfwits will then latch onto as cast iron 'proof' that the trees had to go.

Don't know how other Westerners feel about their own countries but I am sat here shaking my head at how much I've come to dislike something that I used to love so much.


message 2695: by [deleted user] (new)

Good to my word, I'll stay off the covid thread, but here's some news footage from the UK:

https://twitter.com/ProfKarolSikora/s...

Our PM shut down by a jumped up PoS, as he tries to give evidence to an expensive enquiry, supposedly designed to uncover the truth to arguably the most extraordinary event of our lifetimes.

But this is clearly an enquiry that does not allow that truth to be seen, heard or spoken. An absolute farce, designed to exonerate a status quo that deserves Madam Guillotine.


message 2696: by J. (new)

J. Gowin | 7977 comments A quick reminder of what the BBC thinks of us all.
https://youtu.be/0kN1acUapMo?si=g4PWA...


message 2697: by [deleted user] (new)

Ha ha, great find, J!

Might of been aimed at the producer but, let's be honest, most of those in power and their media lackies, clearly do hate us plebs. The feeling's mutual.


message 2698: by Ian (new)

Ian Miller | 1857 comments The new government here has just axed the previous government's Cook Strait ferry replacements, The new ferries, commissioned by a state-owned organization, would cost about $500 million, which is probably fair enough. Like all government organizations here they hired consultants to get the details right. So why cancel this deal? Because the new designs do not fit onto any pre-existing infrastructure, and new harbour facilities would have to be built, which would cost about 5 times the cost of the ferries. So much for private sector consultants - surely they must recognize that when a ship comes into harbour, there has to be a way to unload the cargo?


message 2699: by Graeme (new)

Graeme Rodaughan Ian wrote: "So much for private sector consultants - surely they must recognize that when a ship comes into harbour, there has to be a way to unload the cargo?..."

They intended to be consulted on the additional work too.

The name of game for consultants is too extract as much money from the mark as possible, which is why the name starts with 'con.'


message 2700: by [deleted user] (new)

I know I have become 'Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells' on this platform (look the saying up non Brits) but, my God, this is an outrage. They're trolling us now:

https://twitter.com/ProfKarolSikora/s...

I am endeavouring not to become a grumpy middle-aged man, away from this platform. An attractive Mrs and successful football team are helping me avoid it at the mo but if the Villa start losing games...well, I daren't think about it.


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